What should we do if Cordero leaves?
So now that free agents are free to talk dollars and cents with any team, I thought we should run through a list of things to do if Cordero walks. Listed, in no particular order (I used ERA+ and WHIP both because I was in a bit of a hurry and they're what I was most comfortable using in a hurry)
1.Sign Eric Gagne.
His second-half numbers this past year were horrid, but he's got a career 124 ERA+ and 1.13 WHIP. Doug was talking about getting him at the deadline last year, and I have no doubts that he would have fared better in Milwaukee than he did in Beantown (how couldn't he?), and he might come a <span style="font-style:italic;">tad</span> cheaper with what happened last year. At the very least, he'd be cheaper than Coco (Jon Heyman thinks he'll make $6M next year).
2.Sign Octavio Dotel.
He declined his option and filed for free agency. He also had a poor second half, and may not be the ideal closer, but he'll come cheaper than Coco or Gagne, and has a career 121 ERA+/1.24 WHIP.
3.Trade for Brian Fuentes. The Rockies are apparently willing to shop him for a starting pitcher, something we happen to have an excess of. He's got a career 124 ERA+ and a 1.26 WHIP, though is (I think) under control for just one more year, so we could trade and extend him (maybe). Or let him walk and get draft picks for a departing closer (again). He was a Type A player in this year's Elias Rankings.
4.Trade for Washington's Chad Cordero or Jon Rauch.
Apparently the Nats are looking for starting pitching and are willing to move Ryan Church as well. A package for both Church and Rauch/Cordero? Rauch has a decent career 115 ERA+ / 1.22 WHIP. The "other" Cordero comes in at 154/1.19. Plus, we wouldn't have to get rid of Coco's old uniform- we can just give it to Chad.
5.Trade for Scot Shields
This might be the one I would be most in favor of, but would probably be the hardest to pull off. I am sure we'd have to give them at least one big prospect, and I dunno what else, but it would probably take a lot, especially as they signed him to a contract extension earlier this year. Larry Stone notes that Chone Figgins could be made available if the Angels get A-Rod. He has played some outfield, so maybe a big time deal involving Figgins and Shields? I don't see it happening.
6.Trade for Akinori Otsuka. We know that the Rangers were interested in Tony Gwynn, Jr back at the trade deadline, and it appears that they still have some interest in him. I'm sure it'd take more than just Gwynn, but I wouldn't be opposed to it (depending on who else is in the deal)
7.Other FA RPs of note: Eddie Guardado, Dan Kolb, Jorge Julio, Ray King, Jose Mesa, Bob Wickman. Just kidding.
8.Convert one of our guys to closer.
It's been suggested maybe Ben Sheets convert to closer a la Smoltz/Meyers, but I doubt it would happen. Dave Bush was a closer in college, and I wouldn't be against the move.
9.Or, of course, give the job back to Turnbow.
What do you guys think?
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Rauch or Fuentes
by TheJay on Nov 12, 2007 11:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
My wishlist
- Shields
- Gagne
- Fuentes
- Otsuka
- C. Cordero
- Rauch
- Dotel
- Turnbow
by The Prospector on Nov 12, 2007 11:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm holding out hope
As for Gagne, he just seems like a bad idea to me. He used to be amazing, but his injury really ruined his ability and I don't think he's ever going to recover.
by stevie ray Braun on Nov 12, 2007 11:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cordero has to be signed
by MunichBrats on Nov 13, 2007 12:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was joking
by The Prospector on Nov 13, 2007 1:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah yes, I did misread a little
by MunichBrats on Nov 13, 2007 9:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Please
We'd be better off going back to Turnbow than overpaying for a guy several years removed from his best days (and most productive Stanazonol cycles).
by Acheron on Nov 13, 2007 1:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
My guess
I'll also bet that we won't go with someone who's unproven, not when we're expected to challenge for the division title. No Turnbow, no Bush, no Sheets (though I wouldn't be against that last one).
I bet it'll be a FA instead of someone we trade for, like a Gagne or a Dotel.
Actually, one guy I would mind kicking the proverbial tires on is Eddie Guardado. Since around 2000 or so, he's been one of the best closers in baseball; after a rought 1st half with the Ms in 2006, he was traded to the Reds, where he was awesome once again. He came back from Tommy John surgery last season, and had a "bad" August (in this case, three bad outings in a row against the Braves, Padres, and us) but only gave up 4 baserunners in 7 innings in September (including 2 innings against us again). The Reds turned down a $3 mil option, which seems foolish, though I don't really expect the Reds to do too much right nowadays. I hope we take a look: even if we don't make him our closer, he'd be a fairly cheap reliever who might be surprisingly good. Right now, he seems like a better bet for success than, say, Gagne.
by roguejim on Nov 13, 2007 6:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
CoCo's overrated anyway
convert sheets, light turnbow on fire
by SunglassesAtNight on Nov 13, 2007 10:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
unless..
like jenkins, I absolutely love sheets and would hate to see him elsewhere. unfortunately, we can't afford to keep a highly-paid, oft-injured player on our roster. i hate to see him go, but if we can get a good deal in return, i'm not sure we can turn it down.
by SunglassesAtNight on Nov 13, 2007 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
a couple questions...
Is there any reason to think Sheets would succeed in 1-inning roles? I think he's got the makeup for it, but does anybody have any data on his 1st innings vs later innings performance?
I'm surprised nobody's mentioning Linebrink. He is what he is; a guy with an outstanding history but questions about recent mediocrity. Somebody will overpay to see if he can close. Why not us? The guy misses bats more than Easy Eddie or any of the mop-up guys being mentioned. Would we have to give us our own 1st rd pick for signing him?
by balldeagle on Nov 13, 2007 10:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
It might be nothing
by roguejim on Nov 13, 2007 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
"Hmmm. I don't think that shellfish I had last night was as fresh as they said."
or
"Milwaukee sucks."
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 13, 2007 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I want
Make it happen.
by CATALYST on Nov 13, 2007 11:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOO to Figgins
by roguejim on Nov 13, 2007 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
make it NOT happen please...
The Rangers have catching and young bullpen arms and need a CF. Hall for Laird? Hall for C.J. Wilson/ Joaquin Benoit and Taylor Teagarden? I like Billy, but he may be our most tradeable asset if Sheets is untouchable.
by balldeagle on Nov 13, 2007 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
by roguejim on Nov 13, 2007 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's....
4 years/$60MM and all our problems solved. Make it happen.
by SunglassesAtNight on Nov 13, 2007 12:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Man do I long...
by MadJimiBrewha on Nov 13, 2007 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mean to be a broken record...
texas.rangers.mlb.com/news/article
(I hope that href works...)
They want a young CF that can grow with their young core. With the haul they got from their deadline deals they've got talent to spare, especially at C. And if you haven't seen Wilson or Benoit, those are some electric arms. We've got 3 young CF-types, with Hall, Hart and TG Jr, and surplus OFs to plug in the hole of whoever we get rid of. It makes a lot more sense than trading away our ace or other SPs.
by balldeagle on Nov 13, 2007 5:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's worth clicking on the link
by roguejim on Nov 13, 2007 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Melvin reveals a few relievers
by thetoddmon on Nov 14, 2007 10:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rumorville: CoCo costs too much dough-dough
That sounds about right --- in fact, I think he'll end up signing for more.
In any event, the Brewers should pass. We have a lot of other holes that need filling.
by roguejim on Nov 14, 2007 4:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
not so fast...
by balldeagle on Nov 15, 2007 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs


























