All Eric Gagne, All the Time
Haudricourt also points out that we're rapidly approaching a 42-man roster, which is a problem. It seems increasingly likely that Mench will be non-tendered, and he speculates that Wise might be too.
In Wise's case, I hope not. I'm not sure I have a better idea, but it seems odd to be spending $3MM+ on guys like Torres and Mota and shying away from spending $1.5MM (maybe as much as $2MM) on Wise.
If Wise has to go, it will make the Mota deal look worse. I don't think there's any reason to expect that Mota will be better than Wise next year, and we weren't required to dump Estrada's salary -- we could've just been non-tendering him right now instead of Wise.
Of course, Melvin could have another deal in the works, perhaps with Capuano and a bullpen arm heading somewhere in exchange for a 3B/LF.
One more note regarding Gagne: Rotoworld points out that a good year from Gagne would make him a Type A free agent, so if he does go the Coco route next offseason, we get two draft picks out of the deal.
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Maybe it's too much typing...
Coincidence?
by Jeff Sackmann on Dec 8, 2007 5:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wise, Estrada etc.
Also I saw on mlbtraderumors that Toronto is close to a one year deal with Paul LoDuca for 3ish million. I know LoDuca stinks, but does he stink enough to be the difference between that and the 4.25 million (and possibly, depending on playing time, guaranteed 2nd year) that we are giving Jason Kendall? (who also stinks)
by sheeter on Dec 8, 2007 5:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
blech
by Marty McSuperFly on Dec 8, 2007 7:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
nice
Well, that's spiffy. Looks like maybe Huntington had the edge in this one, too.
by Marty McSuperFly on Dec 8, 2007 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
By default?
by TheJay on Dec 8, 2007 7:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Every other GM?
I initially liked the Torres deal, and told one of the guys I worked with that my only reservation was that Huntington wasn't likely to give up somebody good that cheaply. That Melvin has now splurged the rest of the budget on Gagne shows that the Brewers have a rough season ahead.
by Marty McSuperFly on Dec 8, 2007 7:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
By saying it's an edge that Torres might retire
I don't necessarily follow how spending the rest of the budget on Gagne makes the upcoming season rough. I think it's too much money to spend on one reliever, sure, but I don't see how it screws up next season.
by TheJay on Dec 8, 2007 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Too much anger, too little time
I'm tired of Melvin's veteran free agent signings. Last year's signings of Counsell, Graffanino and Suppan have become this year's Kendall and Gagne, and who knows who else. Maybe Aaron Boone can come in and play 3rd.
by Marty McSuperFly on Dec 8, 2007 8:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Veterans
To me, I guess out of all those guys the Gagne signing seems the most egregious. Ten million is a lot for a guy whose production could probably be matched with the arms we've already got. The other signings make more sense in light of guys like Chris Barnwell and Steve Scarborough being our AAA middle infield depth as well as the starting pitcher injuries in the past. It'd be nice if an average innings-eater didn't cost $11 million per year but you have to pay as much as the dumbest GM. I know you like younger, cheaper guys in the lineup but I'm not entirely sure who is displaced by the moves this offseason (McClung? Aquino? Steve Bray? Someone obvious I'm overlooking?).
by TheJay on Dec 8, 2007 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sabean
if you trade Lincecum now, you do it for young, blue chip bats to replenish a barren farm, and play for 2011, if you don't choke on Barry Zito's contract by then.
Sabean: what a nut.
by baumann on Dec 8, 2007 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thankfully
by Jeff Sackmann on Dec 8, 2007 11:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i be you will even be happier...
by Jamie in LA on Dec 8, 2007 8:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mota/Wise
by cappad0nna on Dec 8, 2007 7:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
like it
I like this gagne deal. If he doesn't work out, we're only in it for one year. If it does, we'll either look elsewhere and we get something back for gagne. I think we've definately replaced linebrink. We'll have to see what happens with covering up for cordero. I"m just amazed we're talking about the milwaukee Brewers having ALOT of good pitching. When was the last time that happened?????????????????????????????????????
by storminTAZZ on Dec 8, 2007 7:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
sweet
It matches up with Yost. I figure we can all take the next year off while the suck burns off, and then come back rejuvenated for 2009!
by Marty McSuperFly on Dec 8, 2007 7:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
09?
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by jimmyb1799 on Dec 8, 2007 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think
That being said, I like getting Gagne, but I don't know if I like getting Gagne for that much. I'd be surprised if he has a poor year, though. Moving back to the NL will help him.
Also, you should just make your "BrewersNation" plug in your signature, it would save a lot of typing.
by The Prospector on Dec 8, 2007 7:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
jimmy...
by Jamie in LA on Dec 8, 2007 8:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just got back online after a couple days
We unquestionably have one of the best offenses in the major leagues next year, and its starting to look like we might actually have one of the better pitching staffs too! With the excess of starters we have, a reasonable trade with someone like Capuano for a decent outfielder could really fill all the gaps. Next year is going to be exciting.
by stevie ray Braun on Dec 8, 2007 10:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We could actually package
by Braunstalker on Dec 8, 2007 10:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
nice to know
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by baumann on Dec 8, 2007 11:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess this means
by roguejim on Dec 9, 2007 12:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
why not?
by Jeff Sackmann on Dec 9, 2007 9:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be awesome
"Crazy Dougie is giving away closers! He's In-saaaane!"
by roguejim on Dec 9, 2007 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
when he does i hope...
by Jamie in LA on Dec 9, 2007 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh-oh
by roguejim on Dec 9, 2007 12:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
My favorite
Ignorance is bliss, huh?
by TheJay on Dec 9, 2007 12:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The logical part of my brain tells me
But I sort of wonder if the gap between Melvin's offer and Gagne's demand didn't close pretty quickly after Torres threatened to retire.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 9, 2007 9:03 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Or
by roguejim on Dec 9, 2007 9:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it just occurred to me...
(which isn't to say it'll be cheap, or easy, just that it's possible.)
by Jeff Sackmann on Dec 9, 2007 9:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bullpen moves
by cubbiebrewerfan on Dec 9, 2007 10:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Joe Crede
by cubbiebrewerfan on Dec 9, 2007 10:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nice bat?
Either way, making an out seven out of ten times at the plate is a weird way to describe a nice bat.
by TheJay on Dec 9, 2007 10:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No shock here
by TheJay on Dec 10, 2007 11:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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