Game Thread #88: Who Will Homer Twice Today?

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 12:01 PM CDT in Game Threads

(Preferably, whoever goes yard twice this afternoon will do so with men on base. Please?)

The pitching matchup is Chris Capuano against Tim Redding. Redding has only made one start this year, which is something of a surprise. Check out this article I wrote in the offseason, and you'll see how the Nats rotation was projected to shake out back in December. Since then, Jim Bowden has found a staggering number of mediocre starters to put in front of Redding...but apparently not enough.

The only thing nicer than going into the ASB with a win would be coupling that with a Cubs loss. The matchup at PNC this afternoon doesn't bode well for that outcome: it's Carlos Zambrano and Shane Youman.

Go Brewers!

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My money's on Counsell

It's just so darn unlikely.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 12:30 PM CDT reply actions

D'Angelo Jimenez

I had no idea he was still in the majors this year.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 12:40 PM CDT reply actions

just barely.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions

No first inning runs

No coasting into the break for the offense...

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 12:43 PM CDT reply actions

Hey Jeff

which section were you in last night? I was in 401 by the right field foul pole and there were a lot of Brewers fans around. The section behind me started that "Let's go Brewers" chant in the 9th.

by molitorfan on Jul 8, 2007 12:45 PM CDT reply actions

214

It was my only crack at RFK, so I splurged for the best tickets I could get. I was about 20 rows back just to the first base side of home plate.

The bummer, though, is this: my buddy I went with has some friends who have season tickets in the first row right on the first base dugout. Couldn't get those yesterday, though.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions

Good seats

you must have had a nice view of that pathetic Presidents Race.

by molitorfan on Jul 8, 2007 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions

pretty sad

my friend was telling me that Teddy is the laughingstock. I'm still a bit baffled as to why.

What I would really like is a rotating core of presidents -- I want to see William Henry Harrison, Martin Van Buren, Chester Arthur, and Gerald Ford duke it out.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions

John Tyler

He could "accidentally" win...a-ha-um...yeah.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions

or Rutherford Hayes could win

on an appeal to the umpiring crew.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions

the local conspiracy

is that Teddy is going to win on the day they open the new stadium.

by molitorfan on Jul 8, 2007 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions

When do they race?

If it's during the 7th inning stretch, they can have Taft come down from the stands.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions

out at first

Bad call, tought call, but a bad one

by Bigdogg2002 on Jul 8, 2007 12:50 PM CDT reply actions

yeah

he missed it, but i can't say I blame him

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions

Buehrle or Garland?

We need a good 2 starter: Capuano, Suppan, Bush have pitched like 4 and 5 's. We have Sheets and need a good, dependable 1 or 2. Vargas I do not know what he will do the 2nd half. Looking around, the White Sox are sellers: Buehrle(free agent after this year) and Garland(signed through 2008) are available but what price?
I think the White Sox want help now and prospects.
Mench or Gwynn can start in their outfield.
Trade Cap or Bush and minor leaguers for Buehrle.
If we want Garland we will have to give up Yovani! (Ouch but we need to stay ahead of the Cubs now!)
What do you think?

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by BrookBanx on Jul 8, 2007 12:58 PM CDT reply actions

No way

I'm not trading a couple starters who we still have locked in for a couple years for half a season of Buehrle.

"Shabbat shalom, motherfuckers" - Ryan Braun

by The Prospector on Jul 8, 2007 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions

Win

Win now! Who knows what will happen next year!

Fly Midwest Airlines!

by BrookBanx on Jul 8, 2007 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Well

I think we've got a pretty good chance to win now even without giving up any good players. Plus, by keeping them we've got a better chance of winning next year and the year after. :)

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions

Uh Oh!

I disagree, 3-6 and the Cubs are 6-3 since that Friday walk off homer in Chicago. You have to stay 1 step ahead of the Cubs and everyone else. When you have them on the run keep up the pressure!

Fly Midwest Airlines!

by BrookBanx on Jul 8, 2007 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions

Enh

Them picking up a couple games in early July doesn't bother me. I still think over the rest of the year they'll cool down and we'll keep in front of them comfortably.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Schedule man!

Their schedule is easy and they know they can beat the Brewers: look at head to head! We also are competing against L.A. and San Diego, Atlanta and Philly for the wild card: they will make moves!

Fly Midwest Airlines!

by BrookBanx on Jul 8, 2007 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions

I thought

that we and the Cubs have pretty much the same schedule in the second half.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah...schedule

We play a parallel schedule for a while and only have 3 games left against the Cubs. Frankly, we're in first place and riding Mike Fontenot's hot streak isn't going to carry the Cubs to the top. This team could make moves to help the bullpen, but I don't think mortgaging the future to win this year behind someone as suspect as Buehrle or Garland is the answer.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions

We already made that deal

And we have Suppan.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Not really

By the time our young guys get really expensive, his money will be off the books anyway.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Suppan

Suppan pitches and keeps the other team in the game. He nibbles too much. We need leadership, veteran leadership on this team: Get Buehrle or Garland now!

Fly Midwest Airlines!

by BrookBanx on Jul 8, 2007 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions

Same schedule=different result

Yea same schedule: Cubs are 4-2 and Brewers are going to be 2-5 against the same teams! You got to whip these teams!

Fly Midwest Airlines!

by BrookBanx on Jul 8, 2007 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions

Wow

That was a pretty low-key home run call by Uecker. Bummer.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 1:02 PM CDT reply actions

It took Sutton by surprise, too

it was like, "fly ball, slicing foul...it's outta here!"

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions

On the brighter side

Shane Youman just pulled off a Vargasesque inning, bases loaded and no one out led to only one run.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 1:03 PM CDT reply actions

Uecker

He's still surprised by the home run - he just said it's 0-0 at the end of 2.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 1:08 PM CDT reply actions

Sutton is still surprised, too

but he does know the score :).

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions

It's a bad day for Bob

He was talking about how he forgot to score Estrada's AB last inning, too.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions

well...day game after a night game

maybe he needs a sunday announcer.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions

Nah

Then you'll start hearing Mench-like complaining, "I think I've earned the right to announce every day."

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions

well that sucked

Brewers in 07!

by Michael M on Jul 8, 2007 1:14 PM CDT reply actions

Huh??

How was that not an infield fly rule?

by trl1020 on Jul 8, 2007 1:14 PM CDT reply actions

That's what I (and Capuano) was thinking

Isn't that pretty much the exact thing the infield fly rule is supposed to prevent?

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions

sutton is saying

you need two runners on for the infield fly rule to be in effect.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Bunts

No infield fly on bunts! They discussed it on the MASN network on the sat.

Fly Midwest Airlines!

by BrookBanx on Jul 8, 2007 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions

No infield fly on bunts!!

Fly Midwest Airlines!

by BrookBanx on Jul 8, 2007 1:15 PM CDT reply actions

Bunt

The rule is no infield fly on bunts no matter how high the ball goes! Cap should not have offered at it!!

Fly Midwest Airlines!

by BrookBanx on Jul 8, 2007 1:16 PM CDT reply actions

so if he

so if he half ass jabbed at it or half swung, then would it be an infield fly rule?

by Bigdogg2002 on Jul 8, 2007 1:19 PM CDT reply actions

I dont think so

in my experience with MLB video games, I think there has to be two guys on for that to take effect.

"Shabbat shalom, motherfuckers" - Ryan Braun

by The Prospector on Jul 8, 2007 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh yeah?

In my experience with Joe Montana football on Sega Genesis, the only offensive play I'm good at is the fake punt.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions

Only on bunts

No, you need at least runners on 1st, 2nd or 1st, 2nd and 3rd for an infield fly but NEVER on any bunt attempt!

Fly Midwest Airlines!

by BrookBanx on Jul 8, 2007 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Yep, you are right

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions

I think

what BrookBanx is trying to say is that the infield fly rule does not take effect on a bunt.

"Shabbat shalom, motherfuckers" - Ryan Braun

by The Prospector on Jul 8, 2007 1:19 PM CDT reply actions

Yep

Here's the definition on MLB.com's official rules:

An INFIELD FLY is a fair fly ball (not including a line drive nor an attempted bunt) which can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, when first and second, or first, second and third bases are occupied, before two are out. The pitcher, catcher and any outfielder who stations himself in the infield on the play shall be considered infielders for the purpose of this rule.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Did I miss something?

Who is this Sutton you keep referencing?

Lordz Of Vengeance---- Who wants to sex Mutombo?!?!?!?

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 8, 2007 1:22 PM CDT reply actions

Don

Don Sutton was a pretty good MLB pitcher turned announcer. Daron's his kid.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions

MASN

Sutton is on the sat on MASN out of D.C. Channel 738 on Direct TV today!

Fly Midwest Airlines!

by BrookBanx on Jul 8, 2007 1:24 PM CDT reply actions

Got it.

Really Jay? I had no idea who Don Sutton is. (s)

Lordz Of Vengeance---- Who wants to sex Mutombo?!?!?!?

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 8, 2007 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions

Off-topic

Zambrano's really wild today. 25 strikes, 27 balls so far - 3 BB and a HBP, but no hits. Crazy.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 1:26 PM CDT reply actions

rbi knock for nady...

tied at 1 now

Brewers in 07!

by Michael M on Jul 8, 2007 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions

hmm

What is this game beisbol we keep talking about?

Is it like pinochle?

Lordz Of Vengeance---- Who wants to sex Mutombo?!?!?!?

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 8, 2007 1:28 PM CDT reply actions

Okay.

I'm done being an ass.

Lordz Of Vengeance---- Who wants to sex Mutombo?!?!?!?

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 8, 2007 1:28 PM CDT reply actions

I think

BrookBanx has a future as an anime screenwriter

"Shabbat shalom, motherfuckers" - Ryan Braun

by The Prospector on Jul 8, 2007 1:33 PM CDT reply actions

jason bay

just homered for pitt 3 run shot, nice

by Bigdogg2002 on Jul 8, 2007 1:33 PM CDT reply actions

Regarding Angel Hernandez

He's the ump behind the plate today. My dad, who records games for STATS, inc., and so sees a bunch of them, had this to say:

He is the worst ball and strike umpire in the majors. I had an Angels-Astros game a few weeks ago and he missed at least four pitches against Wandy Rodriguez. You could tell Rodriguez was disappointed/surprised by not getting the calls, but he did absolutely nothing to show up Hernandez. On the last questionable pitch Rodriguez shoulders sort of sagged and then he went behind the mound to compose himself, again doing nothing to show up Hernandez, but anyway he rips off his mask and starts challenging Rodriguez. Garner came out and got ejected, but I admired him for sticking up for his pitcher.
The ego on a lot of these umpires is disgusting.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply actions

i forgot..

you told us that before. that's how you get those stats fast...and because you work at it :)

Brewers in 07!

by Michael M on Jul 8, 2007 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions

Yep

What can I say? I'm one of those weirdos who likes useless trivia.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions

nahh...

useless would be like on days prince fielder changes his underwear he's 5-20...or is that just weird haha. i'll leave the expertise to you.

Brewers in 07!

by Michael M on Jul 8, 2007 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions

Umm...no comment?

But that brings up a question: now that Goldmann's in Milwaukee is closing, where will Prince shop?

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions

when was the last time

JJ hit a HR?

by Bigdogg2002 on Jul 8, 2007 2:00 PM CDT reply actions

feels like it has been years

by Bigdogg2002 on Jul 8, 2007 2:01 PM CDT reply actions

June 25

It has been a while.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions

We've had several

runners left in scoring position with fewer than 2 outs. I think Prince did in both ABs so far.

BTW, who'd've thought that JJ would be an all-star before Weeks?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 2:02 PM CDT reply actions

now would be a great time

for Prince's 30th HR.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 2:04 PM CDT reply actions

That was ALMOST as good

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions

2 out 2 run double is nice too

Brewers in 07!

by Michael M on Jul 8, 2007 2:06 PM CDT reply actions

almost as good!

2-1 Brewers!

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 2:06 PM CDT reply actions

3-2 Pirates

DeRosa double scored Lee

by molitorfan on Jul 8, 2007 2:09 PM CDT reply actions

That's all they got

Judging just from Gameday, Youman looked just about used up in that inning. Another pretty good start for him though.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions

that ball that estrada hit

was a fair ball, another bad call, on FSN they slowed it way down and the ball landed right on the chalk, and that cost us a run

by Bigdogg2002 on Jul 8, 2007 2:10 PM CDT reply actions

yes

Nats channel showed the same and their announcers admitted it was ANOTHER bad call.

by molitorfan on Jul 8, 2007 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions

3 to 1

looks alot better the 2 to 1

by Bigdogg2002 on Jul 8, 2007 2:15 PM CDT reply actions

damn damn damn damn

by Bigdogg2002 on Jul 8, 2007 2:16 PM CDT reply actions

I really wanted to swear right there

but I was afraid that Jeff would block my commments and I wouldn't be allowed back :)

by Bigdogg2002 on Jul 8, 2007 2:17 PM CDT reply actions

why is cappy still pitching?

it's not like we're saving our bullpen. Bring in Sheets!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 2:19 PM CDT reply actions

I don't care who comes in

Not having anyone even start to warm up until after Batista's hit is unconscionable. Yost should have had someone throwing as soon as he went out to the mound. Now they can't even send Maddux out to buy time.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Please tell me. . .

a pitching change is occurring right NOW!
I'm tired of Ned giving away games cuz he's loyal to his starter.
We want to win, NED!
The allstar break is here---use the bulpen!

Bob Gibson threw 9 pitches: "two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a change-up, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman."

by tvnick5 on Jul 8, 2007 2:21 PM CDT reply actions

Couldn't agree more

by Bigdogg2002 on Jul 8, 2007 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Well I am off to the bar

Hopefully the Brewers figured there shit out during the all star break, losing 3 of 4 to pitt and 2 of 3 to the nats really really stings

by Bigdogg2002 on Jul 8, 2007 2:23 PM CDT reply actions

Heh

There are 3 innings left, y'know. :)

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions

I may start drving to washington

to take Ned out myself!

by Bigdogg2002 on Jul 8, 2007 2:24 PM CDT reply actions

Cappy's still pitching

I take back anything good I ever said about Yost. Fortunately, it's not that much.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 2:24 PM CDT reply actions

If we lose

I hope a reporter asks Ned afterwards if he feels he personally gave the game away.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 2:26 PM CDT reply actions

Yeah

That'd be a nice question. Of course, it'd also be nice to ask Capuano how you walk a .045 hitter to lead off an inning.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions

No kidding

Though that would be a great time to have started warming someone up.

I wonder if he excuses his own poor decisions as seemingly easily as he does his salty veterans' poor performances.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions

My vision of the dugout

Dale Sveum is a highly-strung, anxious go-fer for Yost, who is prone after games to roar "SVEUM! Why didn't you tell me no one was warming?"

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions

When and if

are the Brewers starters going to start pitching? Can anyone make to the 7th?

Brewers, Brewers keep turning up the heat.. Milwaukee Brewers..

by Aschen on Jul 8, 2007 2:26 PM CDT reply actions

7th

Get Garland or Buehrle!!

Fly Midwest Airlines!

by BrookBanx on Jul 8, 2007 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions

can I go to the bar now??

by Bigdogg2002 on Jul 8, 2007 2:29 PM CDT reply actions

Feel free,

I'm going to crack one open at home.

Brewers, Brewers keep turning up the heat.. Milwaukee Brewers..

by Aschen on Jul 8, 2007 2:29 PM CDT reply actions

Thinking 5 plays ahead

I believe Ned mentioned that he tries to map out the game and think 5 plays ahead.
Uh, he must be on vacation today. . . .and yesterday. . . and on several other days where he inexplicably goes "brain dead".
The guy cannot manage.

Bob Gibson threw 9 pitches: "two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a change-up, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman."

by tvnick5 on Jul 8, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions

That's what it is

He's too busy thinking five plays ahead about who to bring in that he forgets to tell anyone to warm up to be ready when it happens.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions

Especially

I mean, after you set the lineup, if you're the manager, what else do you have to think about other than when to replace your pitcher?

I can't imagine what Yost was thinking when Cappy was struggling. Saving the bullpen for the next game at the end of the week?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions

there's always the possibility

that several NL pitchers would get hurt, resulting in last-minute ASG calls for Villanueva and Turnbow, and he wouldn't want to deny them that opportunity.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions

I wish I could laugh

. . .but it hurts too much.

My goodness, the man was a catcher for chrissakes!
How come he's so poor at managing a pitching staff?

Bob Gibson threw 9 pitches: "two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a change-up, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman."

by tvnick5 on Jul 8, 2007 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions

There's also the possibility

that Ned is an idiot. We shouldn't rule that out.

Are there any fans who like the team manager though? I can't tell if I'd be saying the same thing about any coach, or if it is all Yost-induced.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions

many Cardinals fans

want to have TLR's children.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions

It doesn't get worse than this.

Thank the baseball god that this team gets 4 days off.

When Uke gets the monotone going, he's getting pissed.

"He JUST WALKED ANOTHER."

Classic.

by tommyhawk on Jul 8, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions

Ray King

His picture on Gameday reminds me of Jabba the Hutt.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 2:40 PM CDT reply actions

Not good numbers

...for "Burger" King.

by tommyhawk on Jul 8, 2007 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions

I was

looking at that too, Ray letting himself go.

Brewers, Brewers keep turning up the heat.. Milwaukee Brewers..

by Aschen on Jul 8, 2007 2:41 PM CDT reply actions

Was he ever keeping much in though?

Imagine him come 2012...I'm shocked he's only 33.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions

33?

That's incredible. A nearly unprecedented weight to age ratio for a major leaguer :).

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions

Haha

But no one will ever beat Walter Young. They used to have video of his home run on mlb.com.

Imagine, though, King could still be pitching in 2017.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions

actually...

Walter played in the big leagues at age 25, listed weight of 322. That's a ratio of 12.88 : 1.

Prince, on the other hand, made his debut at 21, listed weight of 260, for a ratio of 12.38 : 1.

Walter still wins, but if he'd be kept in the minors another couple of years, Prince might have the title.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions

True

But Prince could always just pack on 65 pounds, too.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions

that does raise the question

of whether the listed weights have any relationship with reality. I know I've seen Walter listed higher than 322, and I'll bet he's never been listed at his post-postgame spread weight.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions

Probably not

Or rather, they have the same relationship with reality that allows a 5'7" guy to be 5'11" in the program.

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by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions

time to root for the Rats...

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 2:44 PM CDT reply actions

damn

Prince needs to jack one ... A-Rod did, giving him #30 on the year.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 2:46 PM CDT reply actions

arm-Pittsburgh

just scored, 5-2 lead

by tommyhawk on Jul 8, 2007 2:47 PM CDT reply actions

Only one word applies

Yosted!!!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 2:51 PM CDT reply actions

now 6-2 Rats

i don't know whether that makes me happy, or more ticked off about losing the game today. (If, indeed, Fielder is unable to get the 5 RBIs necessary to tie it back up.)

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 8, 2007 2:53 PM CDT reply actions

It's the pitchers, not Yost

Yost can't keep sending out the bullpen to clean up these messes. The starters have to start getting out of their own jams. For cryin' out loud, it's only the 5th or 6th inning when these guys start tanking it.

by mikeynaked on Jul 8, 2007 2:54 PM CDT reply actions

You can send them out

to clean up a mess the day before the all star break. we have zero relievers in the ASG. You can clear the pen today. Yosted.

"Shabbat shalom, motherfuckers" - Ryan Braun

by The Prospector on Jul 8, 2007 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions

*Especially

when you have a guy on the mound who's making his second start after coming off the DL.

"Shabbat shalom, motherfuckers" - Ryan Braun

by The Prospector on Jul 8, 2007 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions

Exactly

No, our starting pitching is a problem that will need to be addressed, but that's no reason to leave Cappy in to lose the game. His meltdown is disturbing, but there's a reason why you have managers.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions

Hey on the bright side

Braun's hitting .350 now.

"Shabbat shalom, motherfuckers" - Ryan Braun

by The Prospector on Jul 8, 2007 3:02 PM CDT reply actions

Since the rest of the day is crappy

I thought it was worth pointing out that Cubs catchers are hitting 5 for 63, with 7 walks and 16 strikeouts, good for a robust .079/.200/.190 line since they traded Barrett.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 3:03 PM CDT reply actions

Haha nice

How's Barrett doing?

"Shabbat shalom, motherfuckers" - Ryan Braun

by The Prospector on Jul 8, 2007 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions

Not great, to be fair

11 for 41, 0 walks and 6 strikeouts, a .268/.268/.317 line.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions

Wow

Prince did not like being shown up by the pitcher after the strikeout.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 3:05 PM CDT reply actions

What happened?

"Shabbat shalom, motherfuckers" - Ryan Braun

by The Prospector on Jul 8, 2007 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions

After he struck out Fielder

He whipped out a box of six Krispy Kremes and downed all six while staring at Prince.

No, he did a kind of arm-pump thing, and Prince gave him the evil eye.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions

As if the day couldn't get worse

Now I've got the hiccups from laughing so much at that. Dammit.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions

It was the damnedest thing

I think he had them under his hat.

Crap, game over.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Hey, it's possible

There's already been some food substances under hats in baseball.

Joe Borchard 2007 watch: 188 PA, 56 K, 54 TB

by TheJay on Jul 8, 2007 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Hey

sometimes in the middle of a long inning, you need a snack.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions

Cappy got his 100 pitches in

as did Soup yesterday.

Yost is the best at keeping 'em on their schedule.

Bob Gibson threw 9 pitches: "two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a change-up, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman."

by tvnick5 on Jul 8, 2007 3:16 PM CDT reply actions

Score be damned!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions

for christ's sake

this team needs to learn how to win on the road if it wants to be a legitimate playoff threat. losing 2 out of 3 to the freaking nationals? c'mon.

YoGanna win with Gallardo on the mound.

by Griswald on Jul 8, 2007 3:29 PM CDT reply actions

they are playing awful.

We won't have to worry about the magic number for too long if they keep this up.

by molitorfan on Jul 8, 2007 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions

didn't see the game....

but, Woof, Ned. Terrible!

(formerly engbjm06)

by Jamie in LA on Jul 8, 2007 3:45 PM CDT reply actions

on the plus side

we didn't rely on the home run. I guess. Yay?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 8, 2007 4:52 PM CDT reply actions

ha.

(formerly engbjm06)

by Jamie in LA on Jul 8, 2007 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions

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