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2 Out RISP

Thesis: We suck with 2 Out RISP.

So I made a comment early: I do think we are pressing at the plate. Earlier in the season we had more patience and really worked over a pitcher. It seemed like we couldn't score the first or second time through, but the third round came up...hammer time. Now days we swing for the fences early and often and get a bunch of early runs, but the pitchers realize we are being over aggressive and get us to chase the rest of the way.

I started digging for statistics that would prove my point. While I couldn't find what I was looking for, I did find at least one horrid team statistic. We are 104-451 with two outs & RISP. Good for a .231AVE/.342OBP/.377SLG/.718OPS

~~~The Culprits:~~~
Rickie Weeks 6-44 .136AVE/.240OBP/.159SLG
Craig Counsell 3-22 .136/.296/.227
Geoff Jenkins 5-26 .192/.344/.269
Feeling sick yet?
Kevin Mench 7-33 .212/.278/.515
Johnny Estrada 11-48 .229/.260/.313
JJ Hardy 10-42 .238/.319/.381
Get a bucket nearby
Bill Hall 8-33 .242/.432/.364
At least Hall gets on base
Prince Fielder 9-37 .243/.404/.324
Thats right, a .324 SLG%. Didn't expect Prince to be on this list did you?

~~~Getting it done:~~~
Tony Graffanino 7-28 .259/.394/.407
His total line is .238/.315/.390
Corey Hart 10-38 .263/.404/.553
Damian Miller 6-22 .273/.304/.455
Tony Gwynn Jr. 4-10 .400/.500/.500

~~~The Hebrew Hammer:~~~
Ryan Braun 10-28 .357/.438/.714
Unreal...3 homeruns while Princes has none

I doubt this team can go anywhere in the playoffs if they don't start to hit in pressure situations.  I'm not really sure how this compares to other teams, but it seems pretty awful to me. Our MVP should definitely be doing much better in this situation. These are the spots were an MVP is supposed to thrive.

Link to where I found the stats.

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Watching Yovani pitch probably compares to driving a Lamborghini Gallardo.

by TAPmoney on Aug 7, 2007 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Our MVP is getting it done...
I believe you refered to him as the Hebrew Hammer.  Prince is still awesome and will pick it up though.
Ned's comments on his altercation with JJ: "I think I did that with every intention of having somebody stand up. Its part of trying to get a team going."

by Zel123 on Aug 7, 2007 5:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I love the Crew...
... but they may be the least "clutch" team in the majors right now.

by HobokenCrew on Aug 7, 2007 11:31 PM CDT reply actions  

0-2 Last Night
Prince :(
Watching Yovani pitch probably compares to driving a Lamborghini Gallardo.

by TAPmoney on Aug 8, 2007 8:11 AM CDT reply actions  

You might be interested in this
I put this diary talking about the Brewers RISP splits together a couple weeks ago.
Cubs catchers since 6/20: 164 PA, 24 H, 38 TB, .163/.258/.259
"There are freaking geeks out there who get ... off on this kind of stuff," Melvin said.

by TheJay on Aug 8, 2007 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice Analysis
That was the perfect lunch break read for me. Thanks for that one. There seems to be an obvious problem for the Brewers with RISP and either two outs or at any point in time when they are behind. Those are both pressure situations when players probably feel they must produce and end up pressing a bit.

With such a young team, it makes sense that they would struggle in these areas. I'm sure most teams in the league also don't have the best numbers in this situation, but I imagine that their big name players do come through in these situations.

Carlos Lee comes to mind, lets check his stats with 2outs RISP: 22-53 .415/.544/.736  WOW

I had to look up some other team stats on this one (2 outs with RISP)
Milwaukee Brewers: 104-451 .231/.342/.377
Houston Astros: 123-464 .265/.375/.448
Chicago Cubs: 127-495 .257/.358/.410
New York Mets: 111-497 .232/.356/.357
Philadelphia Phillies: 142-527 .269/.396/.457
Arizona Diamondbacks: 102-432 .236/.335/.407

Obviously we aren't the only team that struggles in this situation. This is definitely an area that does need improvement though, especially from our better players who are supposed to be driving in runs in these situations. With our struggles to hold leads lately, we could be picking up more runs with 2 outs and RISP to help take the pressure off our pitching.

Watching Yovani pitch probably compares to driving a Lamborghini Gallardo.

by TAPmoney on Aug 8, 2007 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

You might look up Florida
They're pretty awful when it comes to driving in RISP with 2 outs.
Cubs catchers since 6/20: 164 PA, 24 H, 38 TB, .163/.258/.259
"There are freaking geeks out there who get ... off on this kind of stuff," Melvin said.

by TheJay on Aug 8, 2007 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

marlins
94-451 .208/.311/.350

Yea...quite awful

Watching Yovani pitch probably compares to driving a Lamborghini Gallardo.

by TAPmoney on Aug 8, 2007 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

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