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Tonight the Crew sends out Yovani Gallardo against Brian Bullington for Pittsburg.

With a small sample size warning, I can tell you this: While Bullington gives up 5 runs every three innings, he also gets a hit EVERY TIME HE BATS!!!!

Anyhow, Your Milwaukee Brewers:

Weeks 2B
Gross LF
Braun 3B
Fielder 1B
Hart CF
Jenkin LF
Estrada C
Hardy SS
Gallardo P

Note to the Nedder: Pitch around this Bullington guy- he hasn't made an out this whole year!

Go Brewers!!

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will he
drive in more runs than he allows? I say yes

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Close
He had more hits than runs allowed which is still pretty impressive.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Rickie!
hate that getting doubled off first on a line drive to center

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 6:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Was it a hit and run?
It'd be a bit more understandable then.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't think so
I was a litte distracted, but I think that it was just bad judgement by Weeks.  It was a sinking liner that looked like it had a chance to drop, but with no outs he has to be sure on that.

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

First inning
I was surprised Rickie got on base without drawing a walk and then I was surprised by him, of all people, getting doubled off first on a line drive to center. Maybe the team can keep surprising me with two blowout wins here.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 6:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

TV camera angle
Does it seem at a bigger angle away from straight on to anyone else? Was it like that yesterday too?
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 6:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Heh
What would FSN do if every pitcher on the Brewers was really good and only gave up really cheap home runs to everybody? They wouldn't have anything to show during the other team's at bats, would they?
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 6:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

can you imagine?
they might actually have to show our pitchers highlights against the hitter.  revolutionary concept

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Prince
looks heftier to me lately

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 6:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

just an observation
could just be that I have been listening to more games and haven't really seen that many lately

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's see if Jenks
can get the runners advanced this time.  Last night 1st and 2nd no outs and he whiffed.  Next play Estrada hit what would have been a sac fly.

by molitorfan on Sep 11, 2007 6:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yovani's confused
He hasn't pitched in front of this small of a crowd since AAA.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 6:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Glad it doesn't hurt his bat
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ned
should start batting Yovani 8th like LaRussa.

by molitorfan on Sep 11, 2007 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way
I am so sick of this damn Nyjer Morgan guy.  In the field he makes Willy Mays look like Willy Mo Pena.

by molitorfan on Sep 11, 2007 6:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I dunno
He hasn't really had to move much for the line drives he's caught tonight has he?
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not tonight
but last night and Sunday he made some highlight reel catches.

by molitorfan on Sep 11, 2007 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Darnit
I had a really good question to pose to Jim Powell for his chat thing and now I forgot what it was.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 6:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sarfate to Houston; Shouse not with club
From Jim Powell: apparently Sarfate was sold to Houston after being DFA'd and Shouse is home waiting for his wife to give birth, expected back Friday.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 6:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sold to houston?
meaning we got only cash for him?

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's right
link
He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Sep 11, 2007 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess he was unnecessary
We must have a surfeit of Sarfates.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Sep 11, 2007 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sar-FAH-tay?
He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Sep 11, 2007 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of trades
Any idea who was the player-to-be-named we sent to the Nationals to complete the Return of the (Ray) King?
C. Magruder scored, R. Weeks to second on balk

by alkaseitzer on Sep 12, 2007 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LaPorta something, I think
Mike LaPorta?  No, that's not right.  Mel LaPorta?  Something like that.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Sep 12, 2007 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doug Melvin
looks like he is two short steps from the psych ward tonight

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 6:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think
the Pirates' pitcher said a bad word.

by molitorfan on Sep 11, 2007 6:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Prince's home run trot
Mulder: Wait a minute, Scully.  What's the point of this test?
Scully: No point.  I just thought he could stand to lose a little weight.
Mulder: His jiggling is almost hypnotic.
Scully: Yes.  It's like a lava lamp.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 6:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ha
Cigarette Smoking Man: smoking cigarette

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can someone
please tell Jenks that we are 15 games out of first?  Then he will have his usual good September. *
* No stats to back up this September claim, it just seems like he plays his best when the Crew are out of contention.

by molitorfan on Sep 11, 2007 6:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
He's at his best in August/September: .297/.364/.552
Rest of Season: .270/.341/.476
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jenkins
Sometimes I think he closes his eyes  when he swings and pretends he hits a home run each time.

by drezdn on Sep 11, 2007 6:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yikes
that could've ended rather badly

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 7:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good
Or maybe "ignorance is bliss" is more apt.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a big play
Now we should have the slightly softer part of their line-up to deal with.

But the FSN announcers do make it sound like the Pirates are a juggernaut of a team.

by drezdn on Sep 11, 2007 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
Just as soon as they stop using Estrada as the batter in practice.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Two pitches.
Way to work the count, Johnny (better than his more common single pitch at bats).

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 11, 2007 7:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The first pitch
I think he's actually cutting back, but I could be wrong about that.

by drezdn on Sep 11, 2007 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

game thread
yeah, I'm tired of Yost's new lineup.  I'm not posting game threads unless Bill Hall's playing.  That'll show 'em.

by Marty McSuperFly on Sep 11, 2007 7:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dammit
Another reason to dislike Yost: he ruined our hottest game threadder.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Armas did that.
After all, he pitched a "darn good game" according to Nedly.  

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 11, 2007 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure the fact he was a catcher helped
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Biggest coach killer ever.
Worse than Jenks at starting slow and then jacking up his numbers when the team was out of contention. At least while he was in Milwaukee.  

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 11, 2007 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus this
He grounded out for the cycle once.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whew
Nice job to avoid giving up any runs there.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gallardo's at 83 pitches through 5
Bullington's at 52. FIFTY-TWO.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rickie Walks
Clogging up the bases again.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mark Mulder
getting hammered again tonight for STL.  I've always liked him, and hope he can get his career back on track, but now is a good time for him to struggle.

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Like I said earlier in the other thread
Three days, three games, three time zones always moving east is a recipe for trouble for any team. I almost feel bad for the Cardinals, but not really.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woo hoo
Gabe disregards Ueck's advice (pull it!) and knocks in a run. Perhaps today is a good day to win, after all.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cardinals are losing 7-2
Cubs just underway.
He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Sep 11, 2007 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gabe Gross
With the second ground rule double of the evening.

by drezdn on Sep 11, 2007 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sanchez
Weeks at least would have made a weird error-like play on that. :)
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious
So true... So true!

by drezdn on Sep 11, 2007 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice
we need Braun and Fielder to get hot again.

by molitorfan on Sep 11, 2007 7:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Hart
It's always scary when we only lead by three.

by drezdn on Sep 11, 2007 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hart
thank you for making it more than a 3 run lead.  We don't like those.

by molitorfan on Sep 11, 2007 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Corey!
Only the second ever Brewer in the 21-21 club!
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the first
must've been Joey Meyer

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!
I didn't mean the 21 Twinkies and 21 Ding Dongs in a single day club.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who does Estrada think he is?
Jenkins?
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Estrada
If you have to lean that far forward to swing at it... It's probably a ball.

by drezdn on Sep 11, 2007 7:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So did Johnny Estrada suddenly think
his arms were 10 feet long when he swung at that pitch?

Ok.  Cheap shot.  But it's probably as fair as posting those hilarious photos of Soriano swinging at a ball that bounced 10 feet in front of the plate.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 11, 2007 7:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I bet...
If you put his arms and his legs together he couldn't reach that far.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bullpen
Hopefully we don't need them, but I wonder who will be up in the pen now that Gallardo's going to get near to 100 pitches this inning.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rayking the Hutt
And it looked like our resident Klingon as well.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to know
We put the Club on our young pitchers so they don't get stolen by the bad teams.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol
we've left Vargas on the street unlocked all year, however.

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Laroche reminds me of me when he strikes out...
... I got hit by a pitch when I was 8 and I was scared of the ball.  I spent about 15 games of my first little league season after getting hit staring at pitches hoping they'd get to 4 balls before they got to 3 strikes.  Then I'd make irritated faces at the ump everytime he called a strike, even when it was right down the middle.

Sort of like Laroche just did.  He did the same thing last night too...

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 11, 2007 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The thing I remember about little league
Was when I stood way back in the box but not over the line or anything and the umpire told me to move up. I thought that was weird.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also remember team mates
getting in trouble for whizzing on the back of the dugout in the 4th inning or so after they drank about a gallon of water sitting in the dugout.  

Think they do that in AAA?

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 11, 2007 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'd have to ask Jeff Liefer
He'd probably say no, though.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh
So long as we win, they can do whatever they want tonight.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but when they lose,
a-hole Cub trolls don't show up saying they knew all along that the Cubs would win the division and the Brewers were destined to finish 2nd.  

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 11, 2007 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your "insufficiently gelatinous"
response on last night's thread was hilarious.  I chuckled when I read it at work today.  

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 11, 2007 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hah
That was jacob, but it is pretty funny.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good game Yovani
105 pitches and in line for the win after six. Can't ask for much more than that.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.
He did a couple of nice impressions of pre-All Star Break Claudio Vargas.  I'm waiting for Rock to break out his "have to find a way to get outs when you don't have your best stuff" schtick when Gallardo gets the hook.  

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 11, 2007 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

'Stros limited the Cubbies to 1 run in the 2nd
despite the bases loaded situation with 2 outs and D. Lee at the plate.  

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 11, 2007 7:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on
Just because he's left-handed doesn't mean Nix is the guy to send up there against a righty, Ned. Mench could hit probably hit righties better.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Woo
Tie game in Houston on two Marquis wild pitches.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

awesome
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on Sep 11, 2007 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like this
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pirates bullpen
Do you think they could use Romulo Sanchez twice in a game if they said he was really his identical twin Remo the second time around?
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha
What's nice is that you opened up several avenues for humor there.  You got you your Romulo/Remo twin joke, you got you your Romulo/Romulan/Son of Clung joke, you got you your Adventure of Remo Williams joke.

Keep everyone guessing!

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by roguejim on Sep 11, 2007 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey how about that braun
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by Michael M on Sep 11, 2007 7:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow
How did the Journal Sentinal not use that as a headline when he set the Brewers' rookie HR record?
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what headline did they use?
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by Michael M on Sep 11, 2007 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know
I'm guessing that wasn't it, though that'd be pretty good.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't...
... Hey, How About Michael Hunt's Big Oily Head?

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 11, 2007 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that had me laughing out loud for a while
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by Michael M on Sep 11, 2007 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yay
A double three-run lead!
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 7:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If you ask Cubbie fans
I'm sure they'll tell you Rick Ankiel had something to do with it.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

another lefty named perez for the pirates...
hmm...something is fishy here
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by Michael M on Sep 11, 2007 8:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is cloning illegal in MLB yet?
If not, I'd like to see an entire outfield of Ryan Brauns next season.  

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 11, 2007 8:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hah
I'd hate to be the cut-off man.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Point.
But we'd win a lot of games 10-5, with 4 unearned runs given up.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 11, 2007 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs up 4-1
DeRosa homer. Hopefully we win and make their pen feel pressure holding their lead in the game.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey
Not a bad move by Nedgar with the two lefties coming up after the pinch-hitter.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Too bad it didn't work
Time to get the Hutt out of there.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

King will go for a little walk now...
And he can't get back up! He just doesn't have the power in his legs to lift his body up the slight rise in the middle of the infield! This is possibly the saddest sight to befoul a baseball diamond since the Federal League!
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

jay...
i never thought i'd say this, but, i have no clue what you are talking about
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by Michael M on Sep 11, 2007 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me either
Powell said something about Ray King going for a walk off the mound and it popped in my mind. It's been a long day...
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

where
was nix going there?

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

arrg
11:35 A.M. CT start time tomorrow. I like to listen to the game at work, but with the off day on Thursday that's just too many nights in row with no Brewer game (two). :(

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 8:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sheesh, early
There better not be any folks needing math help coming to the help center tomorrow so I can follow the game...
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well
it's a good thing then that i'm not talking math this semester :)
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by Michael M on Sep 11, 2007 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey hey
dont look now but Yo got his ERA back under 4
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by The Prospector on Sep 11, 2007 8:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

3 outs away
If we win this game it will ensure the Pirates won't have a winning season.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

approximately 2500 pitchers in the pen
and Turnbow is pitching the ninth?

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 8:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know our bullpen is iffy
But does Turnbow really need the work in a five-run game? Not that I really feel like seeing him, but where did Chris Spurling go?
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It would be pretty cool
If Hunter Pence hit home run #15 right now.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well whaddya know
Only one base off...4-3 Cubs now, 1 out in the bottom of the 5th, runner on third.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glad to see the bullpen is up already
And, hey, it's Cordero. Maybe Turnbow is just going to load the bases to make it a save situation.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That works too
I should save my cynicism for later, I suppose.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BA and Rock
busting out the "except for his bad outings he's been really good" routine regarding The Bow

by sheeter on Sep 11, 2007 8:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Except for when they talk
They're really quite a good broadcast team.
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ned had to use Bow
according to him tonight was the last game of the season

by molitorfan on Sep 11, 2007 8:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Alone in first place
For at least an hour or two. :)
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by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 8:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4-4 Cubs Stros
I like breaking out the Cubs Lose flag image, just to piss off the Cub lurkers.  C'mon, Cecil Cooper!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Sep 11, 2007 9:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's waving in the breeze
At the auxiliary game thread posted by Battlekow.  Be sure to salute when you walk by!  :)
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by roguejim on Sep 11, 2007 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow
A certain team you know has just won 9 out of 13.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Sep 11, 2007 11:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess I was understated
I only thought they'd win 7 of 9 or 8 of 11. Whoops!
Daily Ryan Braun leaderboard watch and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Sep 11, 2007 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well bully for you.
:)
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Sep 12, 2007 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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