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I Hate the Hall of Fame

It's taken me years to realize this, but I hate the Hall of Fame.

I've always been a baseball history buff, even when I didn't follow the season too closely.  I used to get really worked up about the arguments for and against various candidates, and the questions of which Hall of Famers were and weren't deserving.  

Now I'm completely sick of it.

If the system were salvageable, I might feel differently.  But as it is, we have a Hall of Fame that is ill-defined, one with low standards due to previous mistakes, and one with a very mixed bag (that's putting it mildly) of voters.

This year, statheads (at least the ones who are willing to put Bert Blyleven on the backburner) are going crazy trying to get Tim Raines elected.  In response, they're getting stupid arguments about Raines's drug use, comparisons with Vince Coleman, and my all-time favorite: "I won't vote for him his first time on the ballot because he's not that good."  [Not a direct quote, but too close for comfort.]

Of course, all of the flaws with the writer's part of the HOF voting system are also present in the BBWAA awards each year.  And I don't like those either.  But, somehow, those are less bothersome, perhaps because they are so much more fleeting.  My grandkids aren't going to read biographies of Bartolo Colon just because he won a Cy Young Award.  

I know who I think should be in the Hall of Fame.  I don't claim that my picks are perfect, though they probably are better than the ones that various voting bodies have made over the years.  I suspect that most of you have your own personal Hall, even if that just means tossing a few players and inserting a few more who you believe should have made it.  (Rob Deer, for instance.)  I certainly don't need Tracy Ringolsby and Buster Olney to tell me how good Tim Raines and Jim Rice are.

Like many of the other annoyances that result from being a hardcore baseball fan, this one has an easy solution: ignore the voting season prattle.  I have to admit, though, the Hall does a great job of maximizing their press, putting the voting in the middle of the slowest part of the baseball news season.  We don't even have a Jeff Suppan signing to talk about this year.  (I suppose we could talk about Suppan anyway.)

So this year, I'm opting out.  If Raines or Blyleven gets in, I'll be happy for them.  If they don't, I feel as confident as ever in saying that its no reflection on them.

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exactly
I totally agree with the last sentence

by Bigdogg2002 on Jan 2, 2008 11:36 AM CST reply actions  

Suppan
We don't even have a Jeff Suppan signing to talk about this year.  (I suppose we could talk about Suppan anyway.)

You mean, future Hall of Famer Jeff Suppan.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jan 2, 2008 11:38 AM CST reply actions  

If I had a vote
I would stage a symbolic vote of no confidence in the Hall of Fame by voting entirely for players Ned Yost considered "salty veterans"
2008: The Year of #8

by stevie ray Braun on Jan 2, 2008 5:15 PM CST reply actions  

my god
that was the worst Christmas gift ever....damn....

by oaklandbrewerfan on Jan 3, 2008 2:58 AM CST up reply actions  

worst gift
I saw they had Estrada jerseys at Champs at Bayshore on the 70% off rack. I was tempted, but still felt that would be a bit much...

by thekid2point0 on Jan 3, 2008 7:44 AM CST up reply actions  

ya...
my uncle got it at a champs in madison.

i dont think ill be able to wear it anywhere near wisconsin; or in arizona for spring training for that matter.

yuck.

I got the Worst Christmas Gift ever!

by Jamie in LA on Jan 3, 2008 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Estrada
Just tell people its a Horacio Estrada jersey from 2000 and he was became your hero by accumulating an undefeated record with the Crew.  Ok, ok, I know the Brewers have different jerseys than they had then, and three Horacio's would fit in one of Johnny's uniforms, but at least its something.

by Infield Fly Rule on Jan 3, 2008 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Give it back to your uncle
for his birthday this year.  It will be even more funny if one of you is still receiving that jersey in 2011.

by molitorfan on Jan 3, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Fun with Hall of Fame Ballot
Looks like you're not the only one who's fed up with the Hall of Fame. One man's hilarious ballot:

http://www.flotsam-media.com/2007/12/burts-hall-of-fame-wagon.html#comments

by Et tu Brewte on Jan 4, 2008 10:06 AM CST reply actions  

Goose
Gossage is in.

There's an official MLB (actually MiLB) article about his play for the Appleton Foxes of the Midwest League.  I had no idea.


it was in 1971 in a tiny Wisconsin town [Appleton] that he began his journey down one of the most dominating paths in baseball history.

It's a city in Wisconsin other than Milwaukee or Madison.  Must be "tiny".

by newguy @ Brew Crew Ball on Jan 8, 2008 3:01 PM CST reply actions  

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