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New Kid on the Trade Block?

Not new to baseball but to the trade market, Jake Peavy is the hot new item. The two time allstar and 2007 NL Cy Young winner has been available by the Padres' front office. Peavy's repertoire includes the command of several different two-seam fastballs (88-90 mph) and a four-seam fastball (93-97 mph), a hard slider (83-88 mph), a change-up (80-84 mph), and sports an occasional curveball (74-76 mph).The burning question has become who will land this true ace? The current front runner is the Atlanta Braves, but no team has fully announced their intentions.

The real winner in this derby: The Milwaukee Brewers.

San Diego has been known to be searching for a center fielder and young pitching in this deal. Who better to match up with than the Brewers? Tony Gwynn Jr, son of former major leaguer Tony Gwynn Sr. (of course), has been coveted by the Padres for some time now. Matching Gwynn with a young pitcher plus a throw in or two might just get this deal done. Most noteably would be Jeremy Jeffress, though I'm sure Doug Melvin would be reluctant to trade him. CC Sabathia was an amazing addition to the team, why not try another star pitcher? However, the prospects given up may not be worth the pitcher coming in. With the lowest WHIP in baseball since 2004, Peavy would certainly be a noteworthy asset to the team. The prospects may be worth giving up for this 27-year old pitcher not  even to the peak of his career. As always, lets get the comments going!

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What are you feelings on the Brewers being a possible match-up for Jake Peavy?
The Brewers should certainly look into trading for him. He is a quality player.
50 votes
Only if no great prospects are given up. If Tony Gwynn Jr. is the biggest loss, I'd be happy with that.
39 votes
He's not worth any moderate to good prospect! Only with lots of bad players would I support this! Like Bill Hall!
3 votes
No. Leave this guy alone, he might be injury prone.
3 votes
Lets worry about CC Sabathia first, thank you.
22 votes

117 votes | Poll has closed

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I guess you guys do have interest in him.

I think whoever gets him will end up giving up a lot of guys, because teams are going to outbid each other, like they do with free agent.

I still spell Dirk, MVP.

by srdmad on Oct 17, 2008 5:43 PM CDT reply actions  

The Padres may be known to be interested in TGJr

but…um…no. Think back to the Hudson and Mulder deals — Peavy’s going to be worth at least that. Three players, including one promising starter, one MLB-ready role player, and one pretty big-time prospect. (The Mulder deal worked out a bit better than the Hudson one, but averaging the two gives you a decent framework.) MAYBE the Pads would see TG in the role player spot in that deal. I’m guessing Parra would need to go the other way to make this happen, and there’d be a top-10 or better prospect in the deal on top of that.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Oct 17, 2008 6:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I think the Haren deal is a good comp,

and maybe more because Peavy is a little more established than Haren was and has a comparable contract.

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Oct 17, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

right

that’s better than hudson/mulder. can’t believe i forgot about haren already. Peavy’s injury history might cancel out the contract/established advantage over Haren, but still, it’s going to take something close to that.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Oct 17, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aw man, you went and started a rumor

Now pretty soon I’ll be reading on MLB Trade Rumors that Milwaukee will convert Prince Fielder to CF and trade him (with eighteen others and cash, of course) for Peavy. Although at least that would put an end to the ridiculous Cain rumors.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Oct 17, 2008 6:45 PM CDT reply actions  

I voted for "Only if Gwynn Jr. is the biggest loss."

Because that would have to be the biggest coup in baseball history.

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Oct 18, 2008 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

No way

If we’re giving up TG Jr., we’ll need more than Peavy.

:)

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Oct 19, 2008 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's gonna come with a hefty price tag

Since we don’t have the prospects to do it, we’d have to give up some major league talent. I’m guessing it would look something like Hardy, Parra, Jeffress, and TGJ for Peavy and Greene.

I don’t think Parra, Jeffress, and TGJ would cut it, but adding hardy would be giving up too much, so Greene would even it up a bit.

I’m probably the only one, but I would make that trade in a heart beat. Jake Peavy is a stud.

by tcyoung on Oct 18, 2008 11:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Do the Padres need a catcher?

Cause we have catching prospects galore. Lucroy and Salome might be attractive.

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Oct 18, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I rate the chance for this deal as near zero

Here is a story that makes it sound like high quality, inexpensive pitching would be the heart of the deal. “Some” in the majors and “some” nearly ready. Can “some” be interpreted as singular rather than plural? My guess would be Parra plus Bush plus Jeffries plus ? along with Gwynn and/or Green maybe – hard to say on the fourth pitcher and the position player. Then you have a great pitcher but at a rate that isn’t cheap.

by ol Pete on Oct 18, 2008 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

If you give up Bush and Parra

than you would be filling one pitching spot while losing two.

Right now, our assured rotation going into next season is:
Gallardo
Suppan
Parra
Bush
Empty

If you do that deal, you will have two empties rather than one, though improving with Peavy. Giving up Jeffress (which would have to be done in this deal, probably), we lose our only worthwhile pitching prospect in the top two levels of the system.

So is Peavy worth a couple years of crappy fourth/fifth starters?
(This is assuming we don’t sign one more pitcher to fill another spot in the off-season, of course).

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Oct 18, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously it depends on the specifics, but...

I wouldn’t be against trading Bush and Parra as part of a deal for Peavy. I’m not sold that it’d take a TON more than those two, too, to get him. (OK, I admit, I wrote it that way for the “two, too, to” wording.) I mean, getting Peavy’s salary off the books is a big plus. It’ll take more, but I’m not envisioning the 6 players ol pete lists above.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Oct 19, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s probably the opening bid request. At Peavy’s salary, I would vote against giving up Parra and Bush myself though.

by ol Pete on Oct 19, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

what about Gamel?

when i started thinking about this, I thought maybe Gamel, Jeffress, and Salome would do it. then we go year-to-year with Prince and try to make a run in the next three years, at which point we might be able to restock from the minors again, given extra picks in 2009, etc. i think Gamel has potential, but i’m not sold on him. maybe the Padres are.

the idea is that acquiring Peavy makes us competitive now, so we need to maintain our major league level talent in acquiring him. i’d give up the farm now, because in three years, after Prince walks and we get some extras draft picks, we could trade Peavy’s last two years for some new talent and start another youth movement with that haul and whatever Jack Z (hopefully) has restocked us with by that point.

that said, “Matching Gwynn with a young pitcher plus a throw in or two” is not going to get it done. the Padres might like Gwynn, but i don’t think they’d consider him a centerpiece in a trade for one of the five best pitchers in baseball.

by baumann on Oct 19, 2008 10:29 PM CDT reply actions  

The payroll might prevent it

I’d be curious as to where Mark A. is drawing the line next season for payroll. With as many holes as we have to fill, I’m not sure we’ll see the axis of Prince-Suppan-Peavy on the same team.

Otherwise, although I’m usually the last guy to be on board with trading prospects, for Peavy, I’m more inclined to make an exception.

It’s funny, once you get used to a pitcher like Sabathia, it’s hard to go back.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Oct 19, 2008 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's an easy way to fix that payroll problem:

Suppan and Gwynn for peavy.

Fixed.

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Oct 20, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're so smart. :)

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Oct 20, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

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