Melvin Stays; Sveum Goes
by TheJay on Oct 17, 2008 8:46 PM CDT
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PrintThe Brewers' mustachioed general manager, Doug Melvin, inked a three-year extension today, extending his tenure with the Brewers through the 2012 season. Brewers.com has the story here, including a quote from the eighth GM in Brewers history.
"I appreciate that Mark Attanasio and the ownership group have shown confidence in me in extending my contract," said Melvin. "It was the goal for me and my staff to change the culture and performance of the Brewers organization. Now I am energized to sustain the success for the city and the great fans that supported us through the rebuilding years. To show how I feel about the community, my family and I are donating twenty-five thousand dollars a year to charitable causes in the city of Milwaukee."
The article also has news that will impact the Brewers during games. Interim manager Dale Sveum is no longer a candidate to be the Brewers manager in 2009. However, Doug Melvin says he will recommend Sveum be retained on the coaching staff by whichever manager he hires.
Furthermore, hitting coach Jim Skaalen will not return next year after the team declined to offer him a contract. There's no current news on the other leftover members of the Yost coaching staff, but further announcements "will be made in the coming days." Hopefully, they don't forget (wink, wink) to mention extensions, etc., until spring again.
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Thanks for the years Dale
I personally am sad to see Mr Sveum go. I don’t know if he was the guy to lead the team but seemed like a great guy and wanted to be here in Milwaukee.
As much as I had my doubts about Sveum, some of these guys they named…well…can they pick a candidate who HASN’T BEEN FIRED 900 TIMES? Grady Little…uggggggh no.
If it's Showalter...
… I’m going to puke.
I feel bad for Dale “my heart was ripped right out of my chest” Sveum. Reading between the lines, my guess is that Sveum was given some indication they’d like him back last week before Melvin started getting phone calls from outside the organization. So Dale might have thought it was a done deal until today.
I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
same here
I hope that Sveum gets the chance to manage at a higher level again (even if it is AAA—that’s a start)
Showalter would be the absolute worst manager for this team. He’d combine the aspects of Yost that seem to have driven his players off the wall with none of Yost’s positive aspects. Crap, if they wanted that they could rehire Yost.
Because otherwise his reaction doesn't make much sense.
I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 18, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Before the meeting, sure. But after the meeting he should have had some idea,
… unless Melvin was surprised by the interest he was getting and didn’t tip his hand to Sveum that he was thinking of going another way.
I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 18, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny
that they announced this late on a Friday night. I guess after last year’s Nedly extension we should be glad that they announced anything! The e-mail I got from brewers.com said that Skaalen asked to stay with the organization even though he won’t be the “hitting” coach.
September 15: Not a bad little Monday
as Jeff Foxworthy once said
you should walk up to your worst enemy at work on Friday and say “‘I heard the boss talking to the secretary. I heard you’re gonna get fired!’ They’ll be worried about that shit all weekend.”
I guess Brewers.com is more official than the Journal-Sentinel, so we can assume that Sveum is out. However, Skaalen will be worried about this shit all weekend with mixed messages brewing.
by PagsBrewCrew on Oct 17, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone has been watching movies lately...
We find it’s always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there’s less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week.
"If loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right"
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender"
I have a red swingline
and can pull off the milton voice pretty well. it’s about my only decent impression.
I can’t do accents, but I can do geek and nerd and dork. They’re distinct you know.
by PagsBrewCrew on Oct 18, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, Let's look at it this way
If Melvin makes a million a year and gives $25,000 to charities, that would be 2.5% of his salary.
I know nothing about you, but let’s assume that you make $40,000 a year. To be equal to Melvin, 2.5% of that salary would be $1000.
The question is: Do you donate $1000 every year to charities.
well...no
because my earnings over cost-of-living aren’t up to par. Cost of living where I am is 8.5% higher than milwaukee. Poverty line is 15K, so I’d only be earning 25K over what it costs to scrape by, whereas melvin would be earning…well…roughtly 1M over poverty line. So…all and all, that means I’d only have to donate about $580 to match melvin. I don’t think that’s inclusion-on-a-press-release-worthy.
by PagsBrewCrew on Oct 18, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm guessing it's more than that
Other than “celebrity” GMs like Beane and Theo, I don’t think GMs make more than 250-400k. Maybe upper end or a little higher for someone like Doug who’s successful and has been around forever. The numbers usually aren’t released except in those special cases.
FWIW, the average US household donates 3.1% of income to charity. I wouldn’t really measure Doug against that though — it was probably part of the negotiations. Doug asks for X, Mark doesn’t want to go that high, they settle on X, but with that amount given to Brewers charities, so the money goes where it would’ve anyway and Doug has a better negotiating position for his next job or next extension.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Oct 18, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
They were going to keep Sveum as manager
until they read about how that gritty rule violation call was actually Yount’s doing.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
was it?
i missed that. whoever it was was pretty astute.
by PagsBrewCrew on Oct 18, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Looks like we have the first action of the Brewers Offseason
Can’t say any of it surprises me. I think I’m happier about the Skaalen news than the Sveum news, although I get this feeling in my gut that they will just go out and get someone with the same damn philosophy or some former Brewer…or both. What’s Rob Deer up to these days? I just hope they can find someone who can teach a little plate discipline.
My only regret is that I have but one life to give to my blog
I don’t know. It seemed like a regular process where Skaalen would talk about what the batters should do and sometimes they did, but usually they just ignored it. I mean for years. If the manager does nothing when Prince and Ryan are waving at eye high fastballs, its not because Skaalen failed. You’d see Billy actually swing at balls in the middle of the batter’s box. I don’t think it was because he thought it was a strike. His calculation was that the fans would love him again as soon as he started hitting home runs.
Baby steps here.
We need to stop hiring guys from the glory days as manager so I give the ‘Stache credit on that front. However, per Tom H. at the JS:
Melvin wouldn’t reveal the names but from people I’ve talked to, the group could include Buck Showalter, Bob Brenly and Ken Macha.
Blech! Not sure those are much better than Sveum. Later in the article it gets worse:
Other possible candidates might be former Los Angeles and Pittsburgh manager Jim Tracy and former Boston/Los Angeles manager Grady Little, as well as Willie Randolph, fired this year by the Mets, and former big league skipper Davey Johnson, who piloted Team USA in the Olympics.
Jim Tracy or Grady Little? Please god, no.
I am hoping for Davey Johnson, as he wins wherever he goes. Even Bobby Valentine would interest me more than the retreads listed here.
Everytime I see that picture...
…. I think of the Beastie Boys “Sabotage” video.
I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 21, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Davey Lopes?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
apparantly he's good at telling players when to steal...
(a bit off topic i know)
by PagsBrewCrew on Oct 18, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
OMG davey lopes HATES the brewers.
i tried to get him to sign my all-time brewers jersey when he was in town with the phillies; and he said; brewers? im not signing that. so, i folded it over so he couldnt see that it said brewers; and got him to sign it a few days later. success!
Let me know when you are putting that up on Ebay
I’ve got a few nickels for you
I just sit back and root for the taser
ha!
thanks guys; i have been working on it for awhile now. still need some key guys like yount, molitor, gantner, etc. but looking good so far…
by Jamie in LA on Oct 18, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it just a coincidence
or did you have both Gagne and DelaRosa sign in the pits on purpose since they both stunk as Brewers? Nice jersey!
by Infield Fly Rule on Oct 21, 2008 6:42 AM CDT up reply actions
ha!
if you look closely; de la rosa signed his name upside-down. hes actually not an easy autograph if you can believe that… gagne is very nice.
He probably doesn't like being reminded that he's an awful manager.
I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 18, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
There's one guy we shouldn't overlook
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Quoth the Moustache
“Some of these [candidates] are the people that you’ve seen talked about and seen in the newspapers. All have been let go of jobs, but I’ve been a big believer that sometimes the second time around, people are better.”
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
I'm rooting for Buck Showalter or Davey Johnson.
If it’s Bob Brenly, I might have to desert the team, that would be terrible. On a side note, why not just go ahead and make Counsell the manager? He apparently called more plays than Yost last year.
can we eliminate the manager position and create a counsell of coaches.. or is that against the rules?
only one question in the job interview...
Are you a proponent of giving multiple lineup spots to “gritty,” sub-650 OPS hitters?
Hopefully not.
My money is on Ken Macha
Melvin wanted him first time around but he was snatched up by Beane,
I just sit back and root for the taser
Oh, and this is usually the time I wish Cito Gaston was available
but alas, the Jays wisened up and put him back in charge
I just sit back and root for the taser
glad to see we agree jeff
on who the next manager should be (in reference to the changed blog status)
I untuck my shirt!
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