Wednesday's Frosty Mug
At the very least, today is off to a better start than yesterday, since I titled today's post "Wednesday's Frosty Mug" and it actually is Wednesday.
So, as you've probably read and perhaps even commented on, Salomon Torres announced his retirement yesterday. I don't think anyone is counting it as an absolute certainty that he won't pitch in 2009, but this makes it seem pretty likely. The Brew Town Beat recounts the story of Torres' final Brewer hat. Where have you gone, Andy Van Slyke? remembers the early career of Torres, including a four-year retirement and return to the big leagues via Korea. Al has some quotes from Doug Melvin and a look at what's left in the bullpen.
CC Sabathia finished fifth in the NL Cy Young voting, behind Tim Lincecum, Brandon Webb, Johan Santana and Brad Lidge. He finished fourth in the voting at BirdLand. I guess he'll have to settle for being Jeff Passan's #1 rated free agent. (h/t Bless You Boys)
Here are the other Brewers on the list, of 183 free agents:
8. Ben Sheets
40. Brian Shouse
48. Ray Durham
90. Gabe Kapler
91. Russell Branyan
105. Guillermo Mota
107. Mike Lamb
109. Craig Counsell
113. Eric Gagne
MLB FanHouse has their offseason preview for the Brewers, and says their #1 focus should be retaining Sabathia. I've decided my #1 focus for winter will be getting the sun to stay above the horizon longer. I'll let you know how that goes.
Ken Rosenthal has interesting logic. He notes that Doug Melvin doesn't seem to want to make trades unless they net pitching. Then, he suggests the Brewers should trade Mike Cameron and Prince Fielder to the Yankees for Melky Cabrera, Robinson Cano and "young pitching." Unless that young pitching is big enough to be the centerpiece of the deal, the answer is still no.
As he navigates through the offseason, it's important to remember Doug Melvin must be doing something right, as he's the Negro League Museum's 2008 NL Executive of the Year. This is much bigger than yesterday's "Good Guy Award."
Also worth noting: apparently Melvin has a good relationship with the Red Sox, or at least Tony Massarotti said so in his blog listing the Brewers as a possible trading partner with the Red Sox.
Baseball Musings' Probabilistic Model of Range has the Brewers eighth in left field defense in 2008, and Ryan Braun above average at 101.50. Does this officially make him a better defensive outfielder than Corey Hart, who rated slightly below average in right? I'm interested in hearing the debate.
Brewerfan.net has their season ending Power 50 up. Not a lot of big moves or surprising names in there. (h/t Bernie's Crew)
Here's what's simmering on the hot stove:
Blue Jays: C Gregg Zaun, who was upset over the way his request to be traded was handled, will not be back in 2009.
Cubs: Have reportedly offered Ryan Dempster a 4 year/$50 million deal.
Tigers: Kenny Rogers filed for free agency Tuesday. He could retire, but this will at least let him size up the market before making a decision.
Reds: Have reportedly contacted the Rockies to express interest in Willy Taveras, Garrett Atkins and Yorvit Torrealba.
Also, this isn't really hot stove news, but the Marlins may be in trouble with the Players Association regarding failure to pay per diem to players sent away from the team for rehab assignments.
What is a replacement level player? Sean Smith of The Hardball Times breaks it down for you.
Could a replacement level player add some value by bringing postseason experience to the table? Tangotiger suggests they might.
Oh, and if you've ever wondered what it's like to be in the front office of a team that's cutting ties with the face of its franchise and a first-ballot Hall of Famer, Paul DePodesta can offer some insight.
Drink up.
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In other random news
The Baltimore Orioles bust out new uni’s for the 2009 season. Pretty nice touch ups, dig the road jersey, miss the old school cartoon logo they had. Still, I always like the retro look.
I’ve been reduced to Baltimore uniform watch..what a slow offseason.
by Lavender on
Nov 12, 2008 11:12 AM CST
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KL's quest for sunlight
I’ve decided my #1 focus for winter will be getting the sun to stay above the horizon longer. I’ll let you know how that goes.
I predict you’ll begin having success in your quest on or about December 20. Happy trails.
It's called "playing the percentages."
by hilbelink on
Nov 12, 2008 11:37 AM CST
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Rosenthal
I thought the interesting part of that column were the quotes by Melvin. JJ is available but he wants interested parties to make an opening bid and a 5th starter isn’t going to get it done. Escobar is going to spend some time at 2nd base during ST. Elsewhere I was treated as somewhere between a rube and a cretin for suggesting that.
by ol Pete on
Nov 12, 2008 11:56 AM CST
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I don't recall
Either reading or rejecting the concept of Escobar learning to play multiple positions.
I don’t think he’ll be an everyday second baseman, nor should he be if he has the range to play SS, but if he’s going to be on the roster in 2009, and J.J. Hardy is still here, he’ll need the ability to play multiple infield positions if he’s going to get more than 100-125 PA’s.
I don't specifically articulate my motives, because that wouldn't travel as well as a boo does.
by KLSnow on
Nov 12, 2008 12:16 PM CST
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Elsewhere that discussion occurred
I’d love to see him play 2B for a year or so and then slide over.
It would all be better if Prince’s ball and chain had a whip on him to lose weight.
by ol Pete on
Nov 12, 2008 12:41 PM CST
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The man is insane
Here’s a random, speculative thought: Cabrera, second baseman Robinson Cano and young pitchers to the Brewers for Cameron and first baseman Prince Fielder.
if he thinks this is a deal the Brewers should/would pursue. Unless Joba is considered ‘young pitching’. It leaves the team with no lefty power, unless they resign CC and have him platoon with Bill E Hall at 1B on his non-pitching days.
by Getting Yosted on
Nov 12, 2008 2:29 PM CST
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Agreed.
Just what we need, 2 more jerks that can’t take a bloody walk. Luckily, Melvin is not an idiot.
by Braunstalker on
Nov 12, 2008 7:35 PM CST
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Caveat
we are retooling to win now, not rebuilding to win later.
by Braunstalker on
Nov 12, 2008 7:38 PM CST
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Braun has about the range of Carlos Lee and Adam Dunn. Matt Holliday has about the same range as Manny Ramirez.
Pete=cynical
by ol Pete on
Nov 12, 2008 12:11 PM CST
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