Will Mike Cameron Still Be a Brewer on Tuesday?
by roguejim on Nov 2, 2008 6:39 PM CST
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It's nice that we finally have a manager. Now it's time to start wondering if we'll need a centerfielder.
MLBtraderumors has quoted Buster Olney (Insider) a few weeks ago regarding the timing of Mike Cameron's 2009 option:
The Brewers have five days after the World Series to tell Mike Cameron whether they're picking up the option.
The deciding Game 5 of the World Series was October 29th, which means the Brewers would have through tomorrow (Monday) to pick up his $10 million option or buy him out for $750,000.
I think part of the reason why the Brewers were quick to make CC Sabathia an offer (which they did on Friday, rumored to be $100 million over 4 years) is because of Cameron's option. The Brewers have a window of exclusive negotiation with CC until November 13th, after which any team can sign him. If the Brewers are giving CC $25 million next season (about 30% of their expected payroll), they probably can't afford Cameron's $10 million salary in centerfield. (On the flip side, if the Brewers can't afford a premium starting pitcher in the FA market, we'll probably need as much Gold Glove defense as we can manage.)
I'm also guessing there won't be much negotiation with CC's agent --- it's not like the Brewers will be able to go up much from $25 million a season (unless CC wants a 5th year). I'm assuming that we'll get some reaction to the Brewers' offer tomorrow, with a decision on Cam coming soon after.
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Unless they get a pretty firm "we can work something out"
…from CC and his agent, I think you have to move on Cameron.
For a small market team, I think the “bird in hand” rule applies, especially when you are talking about a player that I think is an extreme longshot to resign.
by badgermaniac on Nov 2, 2008 5:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I mostly agree
Especially because we can probably expect to be outbid for Cameron’s services as a FA (assuming he’d turn down arbitration). I don’t think he’s expected to be a Type A free agent, though, which surprised me.
I would be shocked, though, if Gallardo is our ace next season (and I read somewhere that Moustache will be looking to sign a front-line starter if we miss on CC and don’t re-sign Sheets). One way or another, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we give someone $20 million a season. Maybe Suppan has a friend?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Nov 2, 2008 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The only FA starter on the market worth 20MM a season is CC.
Hell, the only FA starter worth more than 15MM/season is CC.
Anyone else getting that much is gross overpayment, unless its something like a 2/40 deal.
The Dirty Canuck of the now.
by Blicks on Nov 2, 2008 6:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Suppan has a friend and his name is Derek Lowe
Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9
by NoahJ on Nov 2, 2008 10:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Though I just noticed
Lowe had a great year in 2002.
Pedro was robbed in that years Cy Young, though,
Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9
by NoahJ on Nov 2, 2008 10:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think his friend is Jon Garland
Lowe is actually kinda good. Garland— not so much.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
by Jordan M on Nov 3, 2008 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh. Either/or.
At least Garlands almost ten years younger.
Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9
by NoahJ on Nov 3, 2008 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting thought
I did read Melvin quoted somewhere as saying that he really didn’t expect to hear back from CC’s agent very quickly though, for whatever that’s worth.
by sheeter on Nov 2, 2008 7:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I could be wrong
Maybe the decision to bring back Cam is totally unrelated to the decision to bring back CC. I’d assume, though, that if we signed both of them for 2009, we’d have only $40-50 million for the rest of the team. That’s enough for maybe one Suppan and everyone else playing for the minimum. :)
Barring a big bump in team payroll, I’m guessing that we’re not going to pursue both CC and Cameron. MLBtraderumors says resigning Cameron is “an easy choice,” and Rotoworld says Cameron is underrated and worth the option (and that the Yankees will go after him if we decline it). Maybe we’ll exercise the option, and assume CC won’t accept our offer, and if he takes it, we’ll deal with affording him then.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Nov 2, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Except that
Mark A. really seemed to be impressed with CC. I wonder if there are some players for whom he’d break out the checkbook for, no matter the cost.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Nov 2, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Worst case scenario
They pick up Cameron’s option and then CC accepts. No biggie, I have to believe that Cameron at $10 million would be a fairly easy commodity to trade. Hell we could probably even get something of value in return. Looking at it like that I don’t know why they wouldn’t pick up the option, unless he has a full no trade clause or there is some rule against picking up a guy’s option and then turning around and trading him.
Congrats 08 Crew on a fine Wild Card achievement! What do you say we keep the next postseason drought to something a little shorter than a quarter of a Century.
by MadJimiBrewha on Nov 2, 2008 10:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just noticed
On mlbcontracts that he has “limited no-trade protection” so that may have an impact on my proposal.
Congrats 08 Crew on a fine Wild Card achievement! What do you say we keep the next postseason drought to something a little shorter than a quarter of a Century.
by MadJimiBrewha on Nov 2, 2008 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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