Sheets, Sabathia and Shouse offered arbitration

by Kyguy922 on Dec 1, 2008 3:21 PM CST Comment 38 comments

I like the moves. Sheets may be considered "risky", but I think it is a deal if he takes arby and stays with the Brewers... but I am willing to bet someone will offer him more elsewhere. Sabathia move is meaningless but provides the chance to restock in the draft.

The real news is Shouse, who would be great to have back next year, perhaps more than the Brewers would like to pay, but I like the lefty.

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Good

If Shouse wants a 2-year deal elsewhere, he can have it and we get a sandwich without losing much production, if any. If he decides to accept, we get a good pitcher at a reasonable price. I hope Sheets accepts.

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Dec 1, 2008 3:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I like this, too.

I didn’t see any reason NOT to offer arbitration to any of these guys.

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Dec 1, 2008 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Chicago radio...

Is reporting that the Cubs are not offering Wood arbitration.

Pretty surprising IMO. I still don’t think the Brewers will go after him, but not having to give up a draft picks to get him may lead to the possibility that they make some sort of offer.

by Supertramp on Dec 1, 2008 4:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Makes him more interesting, anyway

I’d take him on a 1 year deal, or 2 with incentives. I think some team will give him 3 and $24, though.

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Dec 1, 2008 6:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That cry of anguish you hear?

That’s Carlos Marmol realizing he has to pitch two innings five out of six days for 5 months.

by Getting Yosted on Dec 2, 2008 9:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Say

Maybe CC will accept arbitration…

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 1, 2008 4:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

If

He really likes Milwaukee as much as he says he does he would…..

by Supertramp on Dec 1, 2008 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe he takes arby, hoping for a better economy next year at this time

Thus increasing his overall contract… plus a one yaer deal + 6 year deal next year + another 3-4 year deal at 35, might net him more than a 6 year deal now and another deal 4-5 year deal when he is 34.

Well we can hope

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Dec 1, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought for sure

that we would get a joke post with someone claiming that CC accepted arbitration. I guess there is still time…

September 15: Not a bad little Monday

by molitorfan on Dec 1, 2008 7:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think we need rj to take an official oath

that we won’t be seeing a “Sabathia re-signs, 4 years, 80 million”-type posts. Stuff like a Rolen trade is fair game, but a large-scale joke could cause some major cardiovascular issues.

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Dec 1, 2008 7:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I promise

no fake Sabathia signing posts.

(boy, it’s hard to type with your fingers crossed.)

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 1, 2008 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

I can see the Craig Counsell re-signing being misrepresented already.

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by TheJay on Dec 1, 2008 8:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I have the occasional fleeting delusion that...

… CC will accept arbitration, ask for 30 million and get it, then hit the market next season with Boras saying the equivalent of “don’t even bother calling with that 6 year, 140million bs.”

I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 3, 2008 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That would be awesome.

I mean, it would kind of suck, but still, that would be awesome.

by HRF on Dec 3, 2008 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Around the MLB

The Yankees declined to offer arbitration to any of their candidates. Before someone asks, Yes, this means Chad Moeller is now a free agent.

C. Magruder scored, R. Weeks to second on balk

by alkaseitzer on Dec 1, 2008 7:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

shouse

If he accepts, can we sign him and trade him? Or, is he subject to the rule that FA can’t be traded until 5 months after they’re signed or whatever that rule is?

by marty22 on Dec 1, 2008 9:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

yeah, he can be traded

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Dec 1, 2008 9:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

thanks jihad

That’s what I thought, which is why I felt there was no risk in offering. I think we could deal him fairly easily on a 1-yr deal if he doesn’t find the 2-yr deal he’s looking for.

by marty22 on Dec 1, 2008 10:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

FWIW

The rule is that teams can’t trade newly signed free agents until after the next June 15. Fairly straightforward, but then they go and muck things up by saying teams can trade those guys prior to that date if it’s for other players and/or at most $50,000 cash and they have the player’s written consent.

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by TheJay on Dec 1, 2008 10:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Other news

No arby offers for Wood, Hoffman, or Dunn.

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Dec 1, 2008 9:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Not that we’d be interested, but I’m really surprised LA didn’t offer arbitration to Joe Biemel.

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Dec 1, 2008 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Are the Dbacks afraid Dunn will accept? That seems really surprising to me. Thinking about the Cubs, that does as well. Wood is looking for a multi-year deal, so it seems like there would be little chance he would accept, but maybe that’s too much of a risk. Could the Chicago Yankees actually be concerned about payroll?

by ol Pete on Dec 1, 2008 9:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

But Wood publicly said he would take less money to stay in Chicago.

Given his numbers last year and that outlook, I think the Cubs thought he might accept and then win his hearing.

I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 3, 2008 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

My gut feeling is Shouse will accept

Or should I not talk about gut feelings around here :)

I untuck my shirt!

by Michael M on Dec 2, 2008 8:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

It'll be interesting to see.

This is probably Shouse’s one and only shot at getting a multi-year deal. Not that the money is going to be a huge difference, but for him (unlike the other two guys in the headline) the difference between, say $2M/1yr and a shot at $3.5 or $4M/2 yrs actually means something.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Dec 2, 2008 8:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i agree with that

I’m not sure another team will offer him that

I untuck my shirt!

by Michael M on Dec 2, 2008 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

someone is going to sign adam dunn for a nickel. i say we sign him to play 3B — how much worse could he be than braun or gamel? ;-)

by baumann on Dec 2, 2008 10:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Or...

move Corey Hart back to third base…

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 2, 2008 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If he struck out less...

… we could have him field the hot corner with his bat. He could just smack the ball in the general direction of 1st base and hope someone else picks it up and throws the guy out. Even with all the whiffs that might be better than giving him a glove.

I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 3, 2008 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I like it

Kind of combining baseball with hockey. Which is, as we know, a hybrid Canadian/American sport, and gives our team an advantage.

Can you imagine Dunn and Cameron in the same lineup? People who didn’t get the difference between BA and OBP before would REALLY scratch their heads.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 3, 2008 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The 80% of NHL players who aren't American just glared at you

Especially the majority of Canadians.

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by TheJay on Dec 3, 2008 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Youch

Nothing worse than a glaring Canadian.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 3, 2008 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

fixed.

Nothing worse than a glaring ~~Canadian~~ Gord Ash.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Dec 3, 2008 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

"A Glaring Canadian"

sounds like the name of a drink or a slang term for something commonly diagnosed at free clinics.

I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 3, 2008 6:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ick

I had a Glaring Canadian once, but some penicillin fixed me right up.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 3, 2008 7:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Goes well with this guy.

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by TheJay on Dec 3, 2008 7:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I understand the instinct to go by a nickname when your name is...

… Dick Clapp, but is Stubby really any better?

I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 3, 2008 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know

But it’s amusing that his wife’s name is Chastity.

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by TheJay on Dec 3, 2008 10:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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