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Christmas week isn't usually jam-packed with baseball news, but nonetheless, we can still argue about which pitchers are going to complement Smokin' Jeff Suppan in the rotation next year.

And that's just what we're going to talk about.  Adam has a new mailbag up, almost all of which is about starting pitching.  FanGraphs focuses on Braden Looper, perhaps the next Brewer.

Amazin' Avenue looks at the big picture, cataloguing what's left on the starter market.  Between the Green Pillars suggests that the Brewers might do well if they wait out the market ... which is what just about everybody seems to be doing right now.  And speaking of waiting out the market, even if you don't care for Jason Kendall, this Beyond the Boxscore post reminds us just how dreadful most of the catcher alternatives are.

Amazingly, some pitchers work in relief, as well.  While "work" might be a bit of a stretch, one such player is Derrick Turnbow.  BtB also analyzes He of the Scraggly Bobblehead.

In a new Plastic Cup feature called "Large Market Times:"

  • The Yankees are paying more than $25MM in luxury tax for last year.  It's probably a cliche in the blogosphere already, but that's more than the Marlins opening-day payroll last season.
  • It looks like the Red Sox are about to come to an agreement with Mark Teixiera.  I would link you, but if you type random letters into your browser's URL bar, you'll probably see something about it.

Other BCB has turned historical this time of year, and takes a look at one of my favorite quirks of baseball history, the Cubs early 1960s "college of coaches."  Think what you will about the Cubs, but "Vedie Himsl" is one of the best baseball names ever.

Finally, if you need a last minute gift for that baseball analyst in your life, JC Bradbury is here to help.  But if you need a last minute gift for that ex-Brewers blogger in your life (I'm looking at you, Kirbir), I hasten to add that I've read everything on JC's list.

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That’s a pretty good article, I need to check beyond the box score more often.

by SgtClueLs on Dec 23, 2008 12:10 PM CST reply actions  

yeah

there’s an influx of new writers lately that have really kept the level up.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Dec 23, 2008 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Adam's mailbag

That Cappy contract is the definition of incentive laden. Twenty five K a month in the minors with so many incentives that he can make about 3 and half million.

by ol Pete on Dec 23, 2008 1:22 PM CST reply actions  

Anyone know who gets the Yanks 1st rounder now?

is it us or the Angels?

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Dec 23, 2008 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

SON OF A BITCH!!!

yeah, I just found the original story. DAMNIT!!!

This off season just keeps kicking me in the nuts

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Dec 23, 2008 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

wait

does this mean we get the Yankees 2nd rounder and a supplemental?

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Dec 23, 2008 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

That’s my understanding.

by ol Pete on Dec 23, 2008 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."

by Blicks on Dec 23, 2008 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

God, this just sucks

Is there any way for Melvin to make up for these losses so far? Looper ain’t going to get it done.

The only idea I have would be Peavy.

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Dec 23, 2008 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm an outsider, but resigning Sheets would be very, very smart.

If the Yankees get him, you get a 4th rounder (plus the comp pick). If Texas or Atlanta gets him, you get a 2nd rounder. What other team has shown interest in Sheets? I think the market is in line where he could be had on a 1-2 year deal, and a short term deal is a very, very low risk.

That would be smart for pretty much ANY team right now.

"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."

by Blicks on Dec 23, 2008 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Depending on docs

I agree, he’s worth more in his limited injury starts then the likes of Suppan.

by SgtClueLs on Dec 23, 2008 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

here's an idea

offer him 2 years for 25+ w/ mutual option and lock his ass up. We need a decent #2

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Dec 23, 2008 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

2/25 should do it, no option necessary.

I don’t think he gets more than 2/30. And, if Texas isn’t interested, Sheets could easily drop into 2/20 range (or go for 1 year and an option).

"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."

by Blicks on Dec 23, 2008 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Well shoot Jeff

What am I supposed to get you now? ;)

"If loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right"
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender"

by kirbir on Dec 24, 2008 12:20 PM CST reply actions  

Help on his GMATs?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 24, 2008 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I wish I was that smart

but that’s why I have TheJay and Jeff.

"If loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right"
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender"

by kirbir on Dec 25, 2008 12:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Pretty much

but there’s a little more than looks involved with you, dear boy ;)

"If loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right"
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender"

by kirbir on Dec 25, 2008 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 26, 2008 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Did anybody say cheese?

"If loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right"
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender"

by kirbir on Dec 26, 2008 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

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