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Sucks for us, as we no longer get their first rounder.

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The Yankees are out to destroy us this offseason.

They are just cementing the national hatred of their club.

by tcyoung on Dec 23, 2008 2:49 PM CST reply actions  

this is the same club that went back to the NY city council

to ask for $324 million in bond measures to fund their stadium right? And they’ve doled out … 160+80+170… 410+ million this off-season? Poor NYC taxpayers.

This off season sucks anyway, I’m so over it.

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Dec 23, 2008 3:25 PM CST reply actions  

sickening

How is this game at all fair?

Brewers fan lost in South Carolina.

by SCBrewer on Dec 23, 2008 3:32 PM CST reply actions  

My favorite part of the article?

The yankees now have the four highest paid players in baseball, ARod, Jeter, Tex, and CC.
Gag.

Brewers fan lost in South Carolina.

by SCBrewer on Dec 23, 2008 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

They’re signing Gagne too?

by Rawiswar on Dec 24, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's hope

C. Magruder scored, R. Weeks to second on balk

by alkaseitzer on Dec 24, 2008 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not.

But it’s less unfair than it was 10 years ago. I’m hoping that there will be league-wide outrage over the Yankees activities in an offseason when the other clubs are worried about their bottom lines given the economy and that it might lay the groundwork for additional revenue sharing or more punitive luxury taxes. I’ve given up on anything resembling a hard cap on salaries.

Yeah, I’m a total Pollyanna.

I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 23, 2008 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Someone

needs to break the Yankees’ collective knee caps. Damn the piss me off…

by Oakland Brewer Fan on Dec 23, 2008 3:36 PM CST reply actions  

It'd be easier

If the Yankees just bought the rest of the American League and sent all the teams to AAA.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 23, 2008 3:36 PM CST reply actions  

Best comment ever

From Deadspin (of course):

You think Yankees fans are excited, George Steinbrenner just pissed his pants.

Wait till he finds out his team signed Mark Teixeira.

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Dec 23, 2008 3:44 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Fuck the fucking Yankees.

Yeah…that’s all I have to say.

I will be tremendously happy if they miss the playoffs again next year.

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Dec 23, 2008 4:13 PM CST reply actions  

Also: I now have a bad feeling they sign Sheets, too.

I know the word is they’re not looking at him anymore.

But seriously, the way this offseason is going…

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Dec 23, 2008 4:18 PM CST reply actions  

I don't think they can

there is a limit on type A free agents you can sign, I think it depends on how many you lose. Maybe TheJay can enlighten us.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Dec 23, 2008 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Article XX(B)(5) of the CBA
(a) Clubs shall be limited in the number of Type A and B Players, as defined below, they may subsequently sign to contracts. The number of signings permitted shall be related to the number of Players electing free agency under this Section B. If there are 14 or less such Players, no Club may sign more than one Type A or B Player. If there are from 15 to 38 such Players, no Club may sign more than two Type A or B Players. If there are from 39 to 62 such Players, no Club may sign more than three Type A or B Players. If there are more than 62 such Players, the Club quotas shall be increased accordingly. There shall be no restrictions on the number of unranked Players that a Club may sign to contracts.

(b) Irrespective of the provisions of subparagraph (a) above, a Club shall be eligible to sign at least as many Type A and B Players as it may have lost through Players having become free agents under this Section at the close of the season just concluded.

This free agent tracker lists 213 free agents and MLB Trade Rumors says 191 players were eligible to become free agents (the difference is probably non-tendered players), so if the quota continues to increase by one for every 24 free agents above 14, each team could sign up to nine Type A/B free agents.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Dec 23, 2008 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoops, I misread that

It refers to the total number of Type A and B free agents. I think there were exactly 62 of those, so the quota would be three. The Yankees had five such players (Abreu, Marte, Mussina, Pettitte, Rodriguez), but I’m not sure how Marte (or Pettitte) re-signing affects their limit.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Dec 23, 2008 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll just keep on talking to and confusing myself

This SI article mentions 67 Type A and B free agents, potentially upping the overall quota to four.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Dec 23, 2008 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I certainly could be wrong

But I’m reading that to say that that as number of ranked free agents. I count 39 type A and B total, so I think they can only sign 3, so their quota is filled, unless they resign Pettite.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Dec 23, 2008 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Should've scrolled down a bit before that reply :)

39 is wrong, that didn’t count those who weren’t offered arbitration. The way I understand it is that they lost three (assuming they re-sign Pettite) and so they are done with signing As and Bs now.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Dec 23, 2008 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Unless I'm reading it wrong again (sigh)

Under part (b) of the passage I quoted, New York lost five Type A/B Players (listed in one of my comments above) when they filed for free agency. So that would make the Yankees’ limit on Type A/B free agents five. They’ve signed Marte, Burnett, Sabathia, and now Teixiera, meaning they can still sign one more ranked guy.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Dec 23, 2008 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

We're saying the same thing

It depends on how they define “lost”. If they re-sign Pettite, and they already did sign Marte, then I say they lost 3 free agents. They still could sign one more ranked guy if they let Pettite go, I think. But it looks like he’s re-signing. That would give them 5 total type A and B.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Dec 23, 2008 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I realized that after I posted

Oops.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Dec 23, 2008 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Funny thing is

they STILL won’t win a World Series. They STILL might even miss the playoffs!

Still, sucks about the first rounder. I don’t know how the system works, but I wish, if it was the case, we’d get a first rounder the following year seeing as they jam packed they’re payroll, who needs first rounders or a farm system when you’re the New York Yankees anyways.

by Lavender on Dec 23, 2008 4:21 PM CST reply actions  

Unfortunately, if it worked that way

The Yankees’ first round picks would probably be committed out to 2038 even before adding this season’s signings.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Dec 23, 2008 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Uhh, I’m not quite sure what New York Yankees team you’re talking about.

by HRF on Dec 23, 2008 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Perspective

The Yankees’ (and other teams’) decision not to offer arbitration to a lot of their Type A/B free agents means their second-round pick comes up sooner than might have been expected. Also, by signing Teixeira, the Yankees simply became one of sixteen teams that would have given up their second-round pick for Sabathia – if one of the worst fifteen teams had signed him, the Brewers would be in the same position. Hopefully the Rangers don’t sign Sheets for that reason.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Dec 23, 2008 4:54 PM CST reply actions  

I like the glass half full.

by ol Pete on Dec 23, 2008 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

If we were to sign pettitte,

and gave a 2nd round pick to the Yankees, would we get our own pick back for Sabathia?

by tcyoung on Dec 24, 2008 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

The Yankees didn't offer Pettitte arbitration so they wouldn't get a pick for him

If they had offered him arbitration, the Brewers would have to give up their first round pick. Regardless, teams don’t lose picks they get as compensation for losing free agents. They only give up their regular draft picks.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Dec 24, 2008 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

oh yeah,

I guess it’s more of a theoretical question. Can a team get their own draft pick back in a situation like that, had the Yankees offered Pettitte arby?

by tcyoung on Dec 24, 2008 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Schadenfreude

Is it unsportsmanlike of me to wish for sudden, career-ending injuries to Sabathia, Teixeira, A-Rod, and Burnett? (Though I’m hoping they’ll keep propping up Jeter out there for another ten seasons.)

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Dec 23, 2008 5:34 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

It could be worse

The Jays now only get a third-round pick for AJ Burnett.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 23, 2008 6:35 PM CST reply actions  

damn

that’s like rubbing salt in the wound

by Oakland Brewer Fan on Dec 23, 2008 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

And what's even worse for Toronto

Sure-bet MVP Kevin Mench just signed with the Hanshin Tigers.

C. Magruder scored, R. Weeks to second on balk

by alkaseitzer on Dec 24, 2008 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm going to laugh when they don't get to the playoffs

Their strategy has been to throw money at their problems and they haven’t won it since 2000. Solution: throw even more money at their problems! That will surely fix it…

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Dec 23, 2008 10:24 PM CST reply actions  

Here’s hoping they’re the most expensive second/third place team ever.

We've got uniforms and everything, it's really great!

by drezdn on Dec 23, 2008 10:30 PM CST reply actions  

Go Rays!

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Dec 24, 2008 12:29 AM CST reply actions  

listening to Peter Gammons

He says he believes Boras’ dealings with other teams was a “hoax” and that he was going to the Yankees all along.

by ol Pete on Dec 24, 2008 8:56 AM CST reply actions  

He's probably on the Yankees payroll.

Or might as well be.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 24, 2008 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

For 15% of 320 million

You for damn sure know I’d be a Yankee fan if I was Boras.

by SgtClueLs on Dec 24, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

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