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Rumorville: The Entire Seattle Mariners

Rambling Al did a nice job finding this Seattle Times article about Jack Z. and possible trades with his former club, the Brewers.  It's all speculation, of course --- then again, this section isn't called Factville, now is it.

The scout suggested that one need look no further than Zduriencik's former team, the Milwaukee Brewers, to find a trade partner that could fix a lot of what ails Seattle. Milwaukee is about to lose free-agent pitchers CC Sabathia and Ben Sheets and also needs big-time help in the bullpen.

 

That could be solved by trading for some of Seattle's arms, including J.J. Putz, Jarrod Washburn, Brandon Morrow, Ryan Rowland-Smith, and even Bedard.

The Brewers are loaded with bats the team might be willing to part with.

First baseman Prince Fielder earned $670,000 this past season, but he is now arbitration eligible and stands to see his salary skyrocket beyond $6 million. The Brewers have quietly let word get around baseball that they might be willing to part with the left-handed slugger.

It would take more than Putz to get Fielder in a Mariners uniform. The pitcher generating the most interest heading into the meetings is right-hander Morrow — the former No. 1 pick who started the final month of last season after nearly two years in the bullpen.

Beyond Fielder, the Brewers have others who could help the Mariners.

Brad Nelson is a Class AAA first baseman blocked by Fielder from a full-time job in Milwaukee, but who could also be used as a designated hitter by an American League club. The Brewers are said to be willing to trade shortstop J.J. Hardy, who earned $2.65 million last season and is arbitration eligible for two more years.

Morrow, who has the advantage of being young and new, is the most interesting prospect to me.  Keep in mind that his ERA was under 2 last season until the final month, when he was converted into a starter.  (His first two starts kept the Yankees and Angels in check, before being kicked around by the powerhouse known as the Royals.)  Rowland-Smith is an Australian reliever also turned into a starter at the end of 2008, and he responded by closing the season with 8 consecutive quality starts.  LaCrosse native Washburn is always a threat possibility to be traded home to Wisconsin, though his career-high WHIP in 2008 makes me think Suppan-in-training.  Full-time starter Erik Bedard pitched only 81 innings last season, but it marked his third straight season with an ERA under 4.  Putz's 40 saves in 2007 and high career K/9 rate are nice, but he also was injured for some of 2008 and posted a whopping 1.60 WHIP.

Before Brad Nelson was a never-was, he was a pretty hot prospect for the Brewers.  He seems to have rebounded some, and can be a pretty useful player.  That being said...if we can get something of value for a guy who seemed thiiiis close to being kicked off the 40-man a few seasons ago, that seems like a good idea to me.

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Beltre and Bedard are both under contract for one more year. I’d be extremely interested in both for the right price.

Putz is interesting if they don’t ask for too much, and Morrow is really good, but he’s going to be expensive as he’s not even arb-eligible yet and I’ don’t know why they’d trade him.

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Dec 7, 2008 3:18 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Morrow

He could only be a day away…

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 7, 2008 3:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come to think of it

it’s pretty sad that he plays for a team that plays so many indoor games.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Dec 7, 2008 3:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Psst...I don't think a lot of people will get that one.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 7, 2008 4:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He wrote a note to his parents that ended: I love you two Morrows.

by HRF on Dec 7, 2008 4:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In really big games

We could give the ball To Morrow

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Dec 7, 2008 3:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unless we spent our bottom dollars on CC.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 7, 2008 4:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's just sad

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 7, 2008 4:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Forget Bedard. No Felix Hernandez?

"You have no honor!" - McClung to Fukudome

by zsxander567 on Dec 7, 2008 3:28 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure. For Ryan Braun.

by HRF on Dec 7, 2008 3:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nothing you can throw at us will take him from us… After all you don’t trade a King for a prince.

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Dec 8, 2008 10:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, this is the way to improve the Brewers

By all means, let’s swap some 2008 Brewers for 2008 Seattle Mariners. Heh.

Unrelated: Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Jack Z started stocking up on former Rangers?

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Dec 7, 2008 3:37 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about former Brewers that were former Rangers before that.

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Dec 7, 2008 9:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I pray to the flying spaghetti monster that Melvin doesn’t overvalue closers and do something stupid like trading Cameron or Hardy or Weeks for one.

by HRF on Dec 7, 2008 3:44 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I do this too

I hate when people say, “The Brewers need a closer”. It’s so much better to say, “The Brewers need a good relief pitcher, or preferably, multiple good relief pitchers.”

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Dec 7, 2008 3:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Brewers need Jeff Suppan to stop sucking

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 7, 2008 4:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His name is Junkballer Jeff.

by HRF on Dec 7, 2008 4:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Savvy, Scrappy Soup?

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Dec 7, 2008 4:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Headline on the Brewers MLB site

“Closer among Brewers needs”

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 7, 2008 4:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I read that and I said to myself, I said to myself, “WOOO BATTING AVERAGE!”

by HRF on Dec 7, 2008 4:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Prince Fielder

for J.J. Putz, Ryan Rowland-Smith, Brandon Morrow?

That sounds like a great deal, I’m in!

by Charlie Marlow on Dec 7, 2008 4:30 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

iffy

But I actually am now very interested in some kind of package that nets us those exact same players.

I just feel Prince could get us a lot better starter than just more prospects, which was the way of the 90’s Brewer teams of tossing out big names for prospects…a tradition I like to see die permanently in Milwaukee…unless it’s Sexson to the D-Backs revisited ;)

by Lavender on Dec 7, 2008 7:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where would you send Fielder and what would you take back?

by HRF on Dec 7, 2008 7:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heard that about you

but it hadn’t been confirmed.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 7, 2008 8:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Y'know what? I really really really hope we don't trade Hardy.

I used to not care if he were to be traded, but now when I think about it, him, Braun, Gallardo and Parra are the only four players on our major league roster who I definitely do not want to trade. (Barring the Giants being high on drugs and offering Lincecum straight up for Hardy or something, of course)

I really wish the Brewers would offer him a long term contract by the time the season starts. I’m pretty nervous about these winter meetings, though.

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Dec 7, 2008 9:39 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I completely agree

Gallardo, Parra, and Hardy (and Braun, but he can’t be traded anyway) are the only ones who I really don’t want to part with. He is too good of a player to trade away. I’d like to see some more proof that Escobar can hit above AA before making him the full time SS. I think offereing Hardy a long term contract would be a great thing.

by BrewHaHeather on Dec 7, 2008 10:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would want to see Escobar spend at least a little time in AAA.

Unless he has something like a .500 OBP in spring training or something.

Ultimately, though, I want Hardy at third base and Escobar at shortstop. What a great left side of the infield defensively!

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Dec 7, 2008 10:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wish Gamel was borderline decent at third. We need a third baseman :(

by HRF on Dec 7, 2008 11:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interestingly

Before 2008, I would have included Hart on that list.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 7, 2008 11:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think I would have.

I like him and I fully expect him to bounce back next year with, hopefully, some more days off. But it seems like we have so many other options to play right field with all of our outfield prospects and possibly Gamel. I know we have Escobar right behind Hardy at SS, but the difference is they are both great defenders whereas Hart is probably below or at average level and easily replaced.

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Dec 8, 2008 12:11 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Gamel takes Hart’s place in the outfield, it’ll be Braun in right and Gamel in left.

by HRF on Dec 8, 2008 1:47 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why do you think that?

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Dec 8, 2008 9:03 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Slightly off-topic

You know you’re a hardcore Brewer fan when…

… you stay up to the 11 o’clock deadline to see if Sheets or Shouse decide to accept arbitration.

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Dec 7, 2008 9:52 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They both declined.

Draft Picks R Us!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 7, 2008 11:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you also know you're a hardcore fan...

when that supplemental 1st rounder makes you think you might not want Shouse back so bad after all.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Dec 8, 2008 2:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

:)

I try explaining this to people. They say, “But Shouse is good!”. They seem puzzled when I discuss the supplemental pick and the fact that Swindle is also good. They usually have no idea who Swindle is, or what a supplemental pick is.

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Dec 8, 2008 3:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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