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Rumorville: J.J. Hardy

Courtesy of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

Also hearing Brewers shortstop J.J. Hardy and free agent Rafael Furcal still being mentioned in connection with the Braves again, which leads me to believe the Braves are indeed still at least talking to teams interested in [Yunel] Escobar or deals that might possibly include him.

(Personally, I’d trade him for nothing short of an ace pitcher.)

This Escobar [stats here] seems to be someone to get excited about.  For one, he plays second, shortstop, and third, which means we could be on our way for an all-Escobar infield someday.  He's the same age as Hardy, but was drafted 4 years later (2005 vs. 2001), so he's under team control (and is cheaper) for longer.  Plus, in 833 ABs, he has an OBP of a whopping .373.  That's pretty exciting.

Here's what Rotoworld has to say:

Hardy is more expensive than Yunel Escobar, and it'd likely cost more to acquire him than the Braves would get back if they moved Escobar in another deal. Maybe it'd somehow work out if the Braves were able to trade Escobar for Delmon Young, but that's a long shot, and they'd still have to come up with a way to pry Hardy away. The Brewers would like request either Jair Jurrjens or Tommy Hanson.

Jurrjens is a young starting pitcher with some potential, though he hasn't pitched enough in the majors to indicate what kind of pitcher he'll be. Tommy Hanson is called "an ace in the making" by mlb.com. 

I still don't think Hardy will be traded, given our dearth of defense and Hardy's recent proclamations of wanting to stay in Milwaukee.  Still, Escobar's offensive skills better fit what the Brewers need than do Hardy's.

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JJ is one of out top three hitters and our best defensive player.

And I have an irrational man-crush on him. He is awesome. Sign him to a long term contract Former-Moustache! Please?

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Dec 8, 2008 11:51 PM CST reply actions  

I have a hard time getting my head around that series of trades

One thing I wonder, is Atlanta trying to get rid of Escobar? He was offered for Peavy supposedly and now they would ship him out and turn around and trade something good for Hardy. Or are both about Peavy perhaps.

by ol Pete on Dec 9, 2008 12:06 AM CST reply actions  

I just don't want to trade hardy

unless the deal is absolutely amazing

I untuck my shirt!

by Michael M on Dec 9, 2008 8:37 AM CST reply actions  

I think this is speculating:

Atlanta trades Escobar→ Some ace pitcher (he was rumored to be in the Peavy deal)

Atlanta now needs a shortstop. Who is good and somewhat available? J.J. Hardy! So the Atlanta beat writer thinks they could throw Jurrjens at the Brewers and have their shortstop. It’s probably not too realistic.

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Dec 9, 2008 8:56 AM CST reply actions  

Hmmm

I seem to recall the Capellan trade not working as well as we had hoped.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 9, 2008 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

It worked out worse for the Braves.

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Dec 9, 2008 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

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