Option options
I don't usually put too much stock in what anybody says about the season in mid-February, but there were some interesting quotes and tidbits in Adam McCalvy's article yesterday.
The basic point is this: Carlos Villanueva is great, he's flexible, and he's got an option year remaining. This quote from Mike Maddux is pretty cool:
At least the organization seems to know that.
But, apparently, roster decisions are based on more than just goodness:
I'm going to try to figure out what the hell Nedley is saying in just a moment. But first, thank you Adam for sharing this information:
I really wish that MLB would make option data more available to the public, so we wouldn't have to comb through articles like this to figure it out. But anyway, now we know. Basically, everybody can be sent down except for Vargas, who probably deserves it the most. (Yes, I know he won 11 games. I also know he's not a very good pitcher, and unlikely to magically become one.)
So when Yost says he wants to "preserve our depth," I assume that he means that he doesn't want to get rid of anybody. That's tough, because there's only room for five starters in the rotation, and most of the other places to put them have their issues:
- The bullpen: they could be useful there, but unless they are used strictly as long men, they couldn't step right back into the rotation.
- The DL: Gallardo is there, but unless it's a Rule 5 pick with a swollen pinky finger, you can't just plop somebody on the DL because you want to.
- The minors: Here you can keep the pitcher stretched out, but this isn't a possibility for Vargas.
Ultimately, what this whole issue comes down to--I suspect--is that Ned doesn't want to part with Vargas. If Vargas had an option, all of these guys would be identical in the team's eyes. We'd go with our best five starters, and the other guys would pitch in Nashville.
What I'm afraid will happen is we'll get an Opening Day rotation of:
- Sheets
- Suppan
- Bush
- Capuano
- Vargas
If Capuano or Vargas was really bad, I wouln't be concerned about this. If Sidney Ponson had a rotation slot, I'd be confident that Ned would see the light on about April 18th, and Villy would get the call. But none of these guys are that bad. Capuano, Bush, and Vargas all sported ERA+'s last year of 88. The average SP is down around 90-95. Those guys all have their good days, and they all have enough of a track record (of mediocrity, true) and enough potential that Ned, if he so chooses, can defend keeping them around.
But--and I think all of us, even Ned, know this--Villanueva is better. Parra may well be better. There is certainly some risk in losing some depth, but when that depth is Claudio Vargas and we have 7 good options aside from him, I'd be willing to take the risk of trading him or stashing him as the long man in the pen.
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"We're in a win now situation"
When Gallardo comes back, and if Suppan wasn't making 10 million a year, this is what I wish the rotation to look like:
Sheets
Gallardo
Capuano
Villenueva
Parra
They would have a good balance, and I believe the best opportunity to win "now".
by brewfan2 on Feb 22, 2008 11:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I'm guessing Moustache is really out trying to get whatever he can for Vargas, but will keep the rest, who will duke it out in Spring Training, with the losers going to the pen or AAA.
I wonder, though: if there are no takers for Claudio, will he be a starter or reliever? Maybe we will end up keeping all of them.
I'm glad to see Tomo Ohka didn't change his first name to Tom in an attempt to trick teams into extending his career. :)
by roguejim on Feb 22, 2008 11:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
by battlekow on Feb 22, 2008 12:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i too am lazy
by Michael M on Feb 22, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Villanueva
This is how I hope things shake out:
Sheets
Suppan
Villanueva
Bush
Capuano
Vargas in long relief
Parra to AAA till someone gets hurt
The real question is going to be what happens when Gallardo comes back. Do you try and trade Bush/Capuano or do you send one down to AAA. I'm betting one gets sent down where he can build some decent stats before being traded later in the year (depending on everyone else's health of course).
by MadJimiBrewha on Feb 22, 2008 12:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
My guess
Personally, I think Vargas is a better pitcher than either Bush or Capuano.
by ol Pete on Feb 22, 2008 1:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Trade option?
by John Brew on Feb 22, 2008 2:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
by roguejim on Feb 22, 2008 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not possible to trade draft picks
by Jordan M on Feb 22, 2008 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, thanks
by John Brew on Feb 22, 2008 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Couple articles on the subject
by John Brew on Feb 22, 2008 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Trade
I don't know what Bush and Capuano would fetch, but I also think they're less likely to be traded.
by TheJay on Feb 22, 2008 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Quotes like that from Ned
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 22, 2008 5:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
someone needs to remind Neddy
by WSB Chris on Feb 22, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Who cares?
by kgaul on Feb 23, 2008 12:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Batting Order
http://mlbfleecefactor.com/2008/02/23/brewers-to-bat-jason-kendall-9th/
by ET90210 on Feb 23, 2008 8:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Vargas
He also compiled a 5.68 ERA in those appearances, though, so some of them must have been.
by KLSnow on Feb 24, 2008 8:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
It's possible his luck in stranding runners would drop and he'd be bad in the pen, but I think he would make a better long guy than Bush because his style of pitching seems to fit better.
But Vargas should not be in the rotation unless three other starters are injured/traded.
by Jordan M on Feb 24, 2008 9:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nightmares already
Sheets
Gallardo
Suppan
Villanueva
Parra
by molitorfan on Feb 24, 2008 8:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
That would be my rotation
Did you read that Keith Law thing in the "insider" area?
by ol Pete on Feb 24, 2008 9:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Law
by molitorfan on Feb 24, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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