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Tuesday's Plastic Cup

Before we jump in to the links, can we take a moment and revel in the awesomeness of the Brewers yesterday (except for Gagne).  Some quick thoughts about the game:

  • Again, except for Gagne, the brand-new bullpen looks great.  Mota especially.  Gotta love the good sign early on.
  • It's great to be 1-0 no matter how it happens, but don't forget we beat the #1 division rival at their home park. 
  • Fantastic outing from Sheets, and yet another proof of the silliness of the Win statistic.  He struck out more than a batter per inning, including Derrek Lee twice.

If you'd like to revel in the victory in graph form, here you go.

Now, for some links.  Baseball Digest Daily features the second blog entry from Matt Laporta, who seems to be pretty happy about heading to Huntsville.

The J-S has an entire post-game article just about the bullpen, which has the typical array of predictable quotes--you know, we're not worried about Gagne on the basis of one game.  (Which is reasonable.)  What is a bit more interesting is the notes about the hierarchy:

Riske saved the game with a perfect 10th, getting the call over Turnbow because Yost liked "the way he threw strikes all spring." Yost said Turnbow was scheduled to pitch the 11th inning if the game got that far.

"That's what we have to do, get it to the closer," Mota said. "We don't have an eighth-inning guy, so we all have to be ready in the fifth. When the phone rings, it can be any one of us."

A couple of things you already know about if you're reading the FanPosts on the right sidebar:

  • TheJay gives us a capsule summary of Gallardo's timetable.  Hurry back!
  • Roguejim fills us in on waiver pickup Richie Gardner.  This is probably my favorite part about a hardcore Brewers community like this one: We pick up a career minor league to fill out the Triple-A rotation, and it's big news.

Here's a list of must-read baseball books from phillyBurbs.com.  It's not very long, which is a shame; an even bigger shame is that The Glory of Their Times isn't on it.  Come to think of it, there's nothing by Bob Uecker either!

Scott Speizio is now an Atlanta Brave.  He is one lucky guy.  He keeps screwing up his career, and landing in places (St. Louis, now Atlanta) known for resuscitating veterans.

Gotta love vintage MLB promo ads.  Here's a whole slew of them.

Whoa.  Baseball Crank has yet another NL Central preview, and they like the Brewers for 88 wins.  That's not the big surprise.  Scroll down to their take on the Cubs--predicted W-L: 78-84.  It's based on what seems like a plausible method, and most of the penalty comes because of the team's age.  That is the one thing that pundits (even some of the statistically-oriented ones) ignore too much: bad stuff happens to baseball players after 30.  Sometimes it's gradual, sometimes it gets put off for a year, but sometimes it's vicious.  There are an awful lot of older players on the Cubs, and while I'm sure most of them will hold up ok, it only takes one disaster to Aramis, Lilly, or D-Lee to really damage the playoff chances at Miller Park South.

I'm not sure I entirely get it, or the point of it, but a professor has come up with a way to visually represent managerial tendencies with illustrations of their faces.  I didn't read the whole article, and I'm guessing most of you won't want to either, but make sure to click on the multimedia link to see the pictures.  Ned looks about right!

I think that's enough for one day.  The great thing about a plastic cup is that nobody's counting how many you've had!

Star-divide

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That's Ned!

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Graphs, etc.

What happened to John's posts from last year with the Win Expectancy graphs and WPA stuff? I really liked those.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Apr 1, 2008 12:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

John and I are talking about it

we might not bring them back, since it's a lot of work for him every day, and it's very similar to what fangraphs already does. But no decision has been reached.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 1, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, okay

Thanks for the update.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Apr 1, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you tried

offering him Sackmann bucks? 50 Sackmann bucks for each WPA!

(Sackmann bucks are not legal tender, and are only valid for the purchase of GMAT tutoring.)

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Apr 1, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's a lot of sackmann bucks...

apparently the exchange rate with dollars is quite favorable.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 1, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

apparently

the exchange rate of belly button lint with dollars is quite favorable.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Apr 1, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude. You watch waaay too much TV.

You forgot to mention that the actual monetary value of a Sackmann Buck is 1/100 of a cent.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 1, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit!

I knew I was forgetting something!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Apr 1, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one would believe

that you actually have a $50. You're a Brewers blogger, for Chrissakes.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Apr 1, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's what the internet is for!

of course I don't have a $50. who bothers with the small denominations anymore?

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 1, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who knew

that the Grand Poobah of the Brew Crew Ball only has one ear. Or is this a preview of Sheets's next injury?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Apr 1, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's what the internet is for!

of course I don't have a $50. who bothers with the small denominations anymore?

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 1, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I got it. (It was funnier the first time.)

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Apr 1, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

at least you found it funny the first time

(which is charitable)

my lackadaisical internet connection does not agree with the comments posting system on the new site.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 1, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When printing out Sackmann bucks for John

be sure to change "Grant" under the picture to "Sackmann." You don't want counterfeit Sackmann bucks getting out there, deflating the value of the Sackmann buck.

I don't think Rambling Al would approve of the new currency.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Apr 1, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought of that

once I posted it. I should also replace the signatures -- clearly the secretary and treasurer in charge of authorizing the currency are both yours truly.

You're right about Al. Oh well, he doesn't get any!

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 1, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Sackmann

just hit an all-time high against the dollar

by SunglassesAtNight on Apr 1, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

omg...

that is incredible...

this is one great "Blogparty!"

by Jamie in LA on Apr 1, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have a little respect for yourself...

Don't be bringin' just $50 in here:

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Apr 1, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The Personal Bank of Sackmann

ncie

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Apr 1, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha!

I'm starting to fear what might be done with that headshot next.

I love all those zeroes. When I was in Bali last fall, it was hilarious to hit an ATM, because it would give you a receipt with your balance in Rupiah. So, not that I have all that much dough in my checking account, but it was telling me I had 50,000,000 rupiah!

Drinks on me, my balinese friends!

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 1, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yost

I'm not a big fan of Ned, and we are inevitably going to blame loses on him. However, I am going to give yesterday's win to him. He made all of the right moves and they all payed off. Here's what I think he did well.

*Let Sheets continue after rain delay.
*Brought Sheets out in the 7th, but the quick hook was the right move.
*Tony Gwynn in the 2 spot worked. Tony Gwynn sac bunt with 2 strikes.
*Allowing Gwynn to swing away in the 10th instead of a squeeze (which Yost thought about)
*Keeping Gagne in to finish the 9th.
*And most important, using Riske in the 10th instead of Turnbow.

Any of these occurrences could have gone terribly wrong, and Ned would have looked like a fool. However, they didn't, so I believe Ned gets a good chunk of credit for that game.

by brewfan2 on Apr 1, 2008 1:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have noted elsewhere

I think Yost has no choice but to send Gagne in for save situations, and to leave him out there for a good long time. Melvin paid him $10 million for that, and Ned's hands are tied.

I didn't get to see the game until the bottom of the 9th, but by all accounts it was a well-played game, and Yost didn't really have much of a chance to mess it up. The two things he could have done, and didn't, were to bring Brian Shouse into the game and to bring Turnbow into the game. So, good on Ned.

by Marty McSuperFly on Apr 1, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how long that will be true

Let's say Gagne has a bad month ... I don't know, 12 appearances, 4 or 5 blown saves. Riske and Mota (or even just one of them) don't give up a run in all of April. Is Yost really stuck with Gagne at that point? I suspect not.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 1, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I posted yesterday

That Jay Gibbons gives me hope.

I never thought I would type that sentence.

by Marty McSuperFly on Apr 1, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

very true

if the O's are willing to make a cut like that...wow.

Now, I don't think there's any chance that Gagne will be cut in 2008, but it does seem plausible that he'll be moved down the pecking order.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 1, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to harsh the mellow

But sending Sheets back out in the 7th with a short leash was stupid. Send out your fragile ace after 92 pitches on a cold wet day when you're going to pull him if one baserunner gets on? Save the risk of injury to Sheets(pulled groin in similar weather on same field last year, in case anyone forgot) and dip into the bullpen on the first game of the year, especailly when you have the next day off. If this was a cold, wet day in September and we needed the game to win the division, sure. But going off recent history, in that situation McClung would have been brought in for a bonzai charge into the Cubs dugout and ordered not to return until he had at least 3 right ears(4 if you count his own).

by Getting Yosted on Apr 1, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like seeing Ned try

Last year the pitcher would have been taken out in or after the 6th and that proved to take a huge toll on the bullpen. I think he's going to have to stretch these starters for longer starts.

by brewfan2 on Apr 1, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the thing

With Yost it's all the time or none of the time. He can't seem to realize cold, wet in April is different than hot and dry in July for trying to stretch a pitcher. One situation is more likely to involve injury. Now if it we still had 7 starting pitchers and it was Claudio throwing yesterday he could throw until his arm fell off. The fifth starter spending two weeks on the DL to be replaced by a guy just as good isn't going to hurt the team. The #1 starter going down for two weeks when your #2 guy is already down for two weeks and you have a minor crisis on your hands the first day of the season.

by Getting Yosted on Apr 1, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hot and dry in July can have its problems as well

I understand your point, and it's very valid. I just want to give the benefit of the doubt to Ned to start the season. In June I may have a totally different attitude.

by brewfan2 on Apr 1, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

to be fair

sheets isn't really fragile. He's had several freak injuries and ailments in recent years, but not anything that becomes more likely with more pitches. He's as likely to sprain his nose in the 3 rd inning as in the 9th. I thought it was decent of ned to give ben one more shot at the W.

by Marty McSuperFly on Apr 1, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Professor Wang

loves multiple lineups and sac bunting

by SunglassesAtNight on Apr 1, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know Steve - he played quiz bowl at U-Chicago in the early/mid 90s while I was playing at Wisconsin. Always scary when you see pictures of people you know in the NY Times.

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Apr 1, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those darn Brewers

So unprofessional.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Apr 1, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it was especially rude

when they won the game.

Unforgivable, that.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 1, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tony Gwynn jr.

I think TG is great in that #2 spot. For being a young guy, he is pretty reliable at getting things done. The 2-strike bunt and sac fly were clutch. And I don't really believe in clutch.

Sheets looked good (or sounded good in my case). Weeks is sporting a nice .400 OBP *eye roll* and thebullpen was good except for the $10 million dollar guy.

by grant76 on Apr 1, 2008 2:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Anybody else seen the pic of the Fielder bobblehead?

Generally the Brewers get some really nice bobbles. I've collected a few myself. But I think the Fielder one is atrocious:

Not sure I'd keep that one. Straight to eBay

Formerly "Ball and Glove"

by Stoa on Apr 1, 2008 3:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh my goodness

that is the bobblehead I'm getting Sunday? awful. yuck.

YoGanna win with Gallardo on the mound.

by Griswald on Apr 1, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade you for it

Do you need a Rickie Weeks?

by drezdn on Apr 1, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB EXTRA INNINGS

I just wanted to give you guys a heads up that time warner cable has MLB extra innings free right now. I'm in WI and the numbers are up in the 880's. If you have a fantasy baseball team, try not and get too addicted.

by brewfan2 on Apr 1, 2008 3:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

From a Mathematician

See the entire article here.

But here is a important part, this guys "calculations" on the NL Central:

The expected number of wins for each team are:

— NL Central: Brewers — 84; Cubs — 83; Reds — 81; Cardinals — 80; Astros — 79; Pirates — 71

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Apr 1, 2008 3:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Last year that Mathematician said about the NL Central

close race between the Houston Astros and the St. Louis Cardinals

by brewfan2 on Apr 1, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha!

I think 80 wins for the Cardinals will look pretty stupid in 2008, too.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 1, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite part of the first week of baseball

Craig Counsell has a 718 OPS+. Can you say contract extension?

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by TheJay on Apr 1, 2008 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And Jason Kendall's

is 5. I never thought it would get that high.

Formerly "Ball and Glove"

by Stoa on Apr 1, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That drawing of Ned Yost

is strangely hypnotic.

Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains

by SRB on Apr 1, 2008 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dayn Perry

Looks like Dayn Perry on Foxsports.com already thinks Gagne is done

by brewfan2 on Apr 1, 2008 5:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not again, please

I'm so sick of that Dayn Perry guy from all the postseason promos last season. No more! ;-)

by Dros on Apr 2, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From a deadspin gagne thread

by UkraineNotWeak at 05:19 PM: You people act like you never had Armando Benitez as your closer. A few seasons of Benitez will numb you for life.

So Gagne has that going for him. Which is nice.

by Marty McSuperFly on Apr 1, 2008 5:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Miller Park South

You know Jeff, I don't know, maybe someone has mentioned this, but there is a real opportunity here for the official name of Wrigley to be changed to Miller Park South.

My friends and I never called Wrigley "County Stadium South" but we've always called it Miller Park South, since the Keg was born. For opening day i'd wager over half that dump was brewer fans. So referring to it as Miller Park South made great sense. But, it was just a nickname, and really not all that clever, especially after the Evanston and Schaumburg contingent copied us. How funny would it be if Miller Brewing Company purchased the naming rights and made it the official name?

I think we should start a real and active petition to have Miller Park buy the naming rights to Wrigley Field.

Bring Back The Old Logo!

by jacob on Apr 2, 2008 10:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I like your idea

but i don't think half of the fans at opening day were brewer fans, maybe 10%.

by brewfan2 on Apr 2, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

50%+

maybe, but it sure sounded like it was more than half. Everytime a brewer pitcher got a flyball out the crowd erupted.

Bring Back The Old Logo!

by jacob on Apr 2, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you spun it right

You might even get some support by making it an anti-St. Louis, anti-Budweiser thing.

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by TheJay on Apr 2, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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