Game Thread #12: Brewers (7-4) at Mets (5-5)
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 10:32 AM CDT
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PrintIt's the rubber game at Shea, with Jeff Suppan taking on Oliver Perez. The action starts at 12:10 CT.
As KLSnow mentioned in the Mug this morning, it'll be interesting to see the lineups, as Braun and Fielder requested a switch. For what it's worth, swapping them (against a lefty, anyway), is a very, very slight negative according to the lineup analysis algorithm, but of course the algorithm doesn't know anything about how comfortable the #3 and #4 hitters are.
And anyway, for as long as Cameron is out, Yost seems likely to hit a lefty second when a right-hander is on the mound, so moving Fielder back to cleanup splits up the two lefties in the lineup. Seems like an innocuous move all around, especially when Bill Hall is knocking it out of the park every other time he makes contact.
Platoon-ified Project-A-Tron says:
- Brewers 4.5
- Mets 4.4
- Brewers WinExp: 48%
(Yes, I know that makes no sense. Basically, most of the home-field advantage in baseball comes from the strategic edge of batting last. If the runs scored are projected to be so close, many possible outcomes will result in a tie game late, including those that go to extra innings. So basically, the predicted score makes it a 50-50 shot, and the home field advantage gives the edge to the Mets.)
Go Brewers!
UPDATE: Tom H has the lineups, and the request has been granted.
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Greetings From Philadelphia
Good morning, brewcrewball. Long-time lurker, first-time poster. I'm a big fan of the work you guys do; the site has molded me into a smarter and deeper baseball fan even as I've drifted farther from the NL Central.
I bring good news from the East: I was at last night's Cubs game, and the young bears were positively emasculated by Cole Hamels. If there's one thing better than watching a Brewers win...
I'll be gamecasting today's action from the office, so I'm counting on you to be my eyes and ears. Go Crew!
Last week I went to Philadelphia, but it was closed.
jim, i didn't know your brother blogged!
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
MLB.TV my friend
It's a life-saver for those fans out of the area. I have yet to miss a game in Arlington Tx. It's a beautiful thing.
streaming video = verboten
...and their firewall is smarter than I am.
Last week I went to Philadelphia, but it was closed.
by Citizen Braun on Apr 13, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Similarly Omnipotent
unfortunately
Last week I went to Philadelphia, but it was closed.
by Citizen Braun on Apr 13, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
"emasculated" is funny...
welcome aboard...
by Jamie in LA on Apr 13, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Regarding the lineup change
1. Duh-uuuh.
2. i'm glad to see Nedly knows the word placebo. Hopefully he'll add "Bush, you are going to pen." to his lexicon as well.
I'm not a fan of Ned's, but I can see that through the first 11 games of the year he hasn't Yosted a game yet. So as long as this keeps up, he can remain manager.
new york fans
are nearly as bad as LA fans in that regard.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Gabe Kapler
2002 - 2006:
15 HRs in 450+ ABs
2008:
4 HRs in 23 ABs
(roughly 78 HRs in 450 ABs)
Also, cheese.
I was watching the Texas/Toronto game yesterday
and the Texas TV guys mentioned two different times that Kapler was already gunning for comeback player of the year.
maybe that's been the plan all along
go to japan ... manage in the minors...
if you leave often enough, you'll come back frequently and have more chances than most at comeback player of the year.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Go Gabe!
Nice shot Kapler. Lets just hope that Fielder and Braun can heat up by the time Kapler comes back down to earth.
That's
the worst pick-up line ever.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
hehe
Half-drunk it's "safety" full drunk it's "suicide"
Kendall not following plan there.
by Lake County on Apr 13, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Rock
did anyone hear him taking about Kendall catching the day game after a night game? Since when was yesterday's 1:00 Eastern start a night game?
i'm not listening to bill
so I don't know the exact context, but Kendall did catch both Fri night and Sat afternoon.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Race for Taste
I seriously hate this new Klemens song commercial. I now pray for the annoying, yet catchy original song.
Holy Shnikies
That's funny. He must have uber splits vs. Marquis?
by Lake County on Apr 13, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Prince's
yellow glove and blue glove are pretty cool.
I am getting seriously fed up with this team's wretched defense.
Nice play by RW and JS there, but Prince has been awful lately.
DAMNIT!!!
Gallardo needs to hurry back. The only sentence where you can mention Suppan and number 2 starter is "Jeff Suppan never has been, isn't, and never will be a quality #2 starter."
I'm thinking we may see turnbow today.
Next thing you know
Jamie is going to get a Braun jersey for Christmas.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
it would be nice for braun/fielder to get a hit
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
How scary is it to think
...where we would be if Gabe Kapler and Jason Kendall weren't carrying our offense?
He's extremely quick and good.
3-4-5 Hitters
Still only 3 walks all season combined (Braun- 0, Fielder-2, Hall-1)
But I will take the hit by Braun... Let's go Crew!
The Mets have scored one in the 1st, two in the 2nd, and three in the 3rd. Let's hope the pattern does not continue. I doubt we're going to score more than 45 runs.
He's extremely quick and good.
Did we mention
that Kendall has had LASIK surgery?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Mets due for
4 runs this inning?
1 in the 1st
2 in the 2nd
3 in the 3rd...
Let's hope the trend stops in the 4th... or this will be a long game
6 runs in 3 innings
runners on 1st and 3rd, no out.
a WHIP of 3.0 so far.
Someone want to wake up Ned?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I would really, really like to see someone come in here and try to get the DP
Someone not named Jeff Suppan.
He's extremely quick and good.
Speaking of waking people up
Let's wake up the FSN camera crew. The camera is focused on the wall at Shea, and then gets back to the game as the pitch is already on the way to the plate.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
ok, we deserved that (kind of)
a whole lot of mets hits managed to find holes. not that suppan is dominating, but it shouldn't have been THAT bad.
Also, cheese.
it was funny
when Castillo hit that, Powell was talking about how awful Castillo is now, and getting worse.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Whaddaya think?
Let Suppan hit for himself if he gets up?
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul."
Man oh man
that had two-run double written all over it.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Perez has to be coming out soon
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Don't tell his parents.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
It seems like every at-bat
Corey has less and less facial hair.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
This Week's Sign of the Apocalypse
JJ Hardy has more walks this year than our 3-4-5 hitters combined.
He's extremely quick and good.
Joltin Joe
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
and Perez is done
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
Dillon
Thank God
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul."
I wonder if he'll be focused
since he won the Pulitzer last week and all.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Jim and Bob
talking about the Red Sox jersey buried in Yankee Stadium:
Jim: do you believe in curses, Bob?
Bob: I try to keep my language clean. I'll say "darn it" now and then, but that's about it.
Also, cheese.
I can't wait
till the stat guys combine with the web guys to take pitchfx stuff and come up with a nice visual to show the friggin' changing strike zone
after this year, should be doable
with pitchfx in most (all?) stadiums, there's enough data to reveal Phil Cuzzi as the incompetent he is.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
what did you think of yesterday?
I actually thought he wasn't that bad. Today's guy has changed a lot...
I wasn't in a good position to see the zone
unfortunately
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Phil Cuzzi
is so very bad behind the plate.
by Braunstalker on Apr 13, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
as long as Yovani is in the minors
Dillon works for me.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on
The FSN producer is channeling Uecker. That camera work made me think it was out of play.
He's extremely quick and good.
kendall is 1-9 for the series
and still hitting .429
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
i think that after the collapse
many mets fans would like that.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
nah
I may live in new york, but I'm not (yet?) sufficiently new-york-centric to capitalize.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Doing his best Turnbow impression
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 13, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
bob:
"relay...nahhh...got him!"
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I am sticking with Scions of Zion.
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Apr 13, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Phillies just got one against the Cubs too
3-2 Chicago in the bottom of the 5th.
He's extremely quick and good.
At the moment
It seems we are going to pay $7Million for an upgrade in fielding at CF.
We dont really need another Right-handed guy who will hit 20HR with 100+K's
On the subject of Cameron
Hey Jeff - you should invite Cameron to come on a game chat in April...you know he's gotta be going nuts
Mets
must not remember when Billy beat them with the shot off the pink bat.
Good time for Prince's first homer
Mets announcers:
"Fielder does not run well at all"
They must have missed his epic inside-the-parker
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
Speaking of which
anyone know where that can be viewed online? I tried finding it a while back, but I couldn't find it.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 13, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Here is the article
http://www.theonion.com/content/from_print/prince_fielder_dies_of
The video was taken off Youtube
Does the pitcher who throw multiple wild pitches?
Get calls that are anywhere close because they seem like incredible pitches?
Guess Hart isn't cold anymore
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul."
I think the Shea MC
is a reject DJ from middle school dances.
that's basically the playlist
for parties on long island.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll stick to
Lucinda Williams and PBR, thank you kindly.
by Braunstalker on Apr 13, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Torres is having some problems
We really want to see David Wright come up as the go-ahead run.
He's extremely quick and good.
I just keep waiting for Torres to go into complete meltdown
He sometimes just can't find the strikezone, worse than Turnbow even when he isn't on.
I know I am coming late to the chat but...
This win would be huge to start the trip. The bottom 3 of the order against the Cards so it would be nice to get this one.
Cards
we play them 5 times in the next 10 days. It would be nice to knock them out of first.
Good time for Prince's first homer
Torres
is terrible. Riske is the bomb-diggity. Turn-blown will be in for the eighth, and I'm probably going to get angry.
Rollie Fingers sweet stache' action for $500 Alex...
it's always more painful to watch the home team struggle.
Check out the Chicago highlights from yesterday (or the day before) when Kosuke makes a nice running catch and crazy Al Soriano knocks it out of his glove...
I think we should call Soriano
"crazy Al"
unless a certain blog author has already claimed that one.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Delgado
I love you for dropping that. I also love that the Weeks home run dominated some Met's fan. LOL.
Rollie Fingers sweet stache' action for $500 Alex...
at what point does kaplar get to stay in the starting line up?
He is hitting out of his mind and i think its a possibility of keeping him in the lineup up or trade him or cameron
It would be nice if the Giants came calling, offering Jonathan Sanchez or something
He's extremely quick and good.
The Mets still bat three more times
It feels like the top of the ninth already.
He's extremely quick and good.
Cervezeros
Kapler/Weeks/Hart combo is undefeatable today
Rollie Fingers sweet stache' action for $500 Alex...
Can't stop him
I really am eating my words... didn't think a minor league manager belonged in the 2 spot... but he proves me wrong every day
Ugh
I'd take a cadaver over McCain
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 13, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Braun
for the stike-out?
Rollie Fingers sweet stache' action for $500 Alex...
Marmol
Gives up a stolen base and proceeds to walk the first batter he faces.
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
I am guilty of it too
But it seems like the Brewers did too much scoreboard watching last year, and they have admitted it... is it possible the fans do too much as well...
I know we are not playing and it is not necessary to only concentrate on each pitch as a player would...but sometimes the obsession with another team makes me wonder if we are like fans who take more pleasure in our oppenents defeats than our own success?
That being said, I am still watching the gameday for the Cubs game
If the Brewers win, a Cubs loss only cheers me up incrementally
I don't think there's anything wrong with cheering against your "enemy".
He's extremely quick and good.
That's like saying
you shouldn't watch the other team bat. The goal of the sport, as currently organized, is to win the division (and then World Series)
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
Of course
We are all cheering against the Cubs... but is it an obsession?
I guess we need a healthy hate for the enemy...
I see letters in the comment
But for the life of me, I have no idea what they're saying.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Only 2 hits
with 6 strikeouts until his final inning. The Dusty-factor might have come into play once again.
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
I am telling you
Edinson Volquez is going to be the best young pitcher in the Reds rotation, not Cueto
Touche
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 13, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
You know
I was pretty sure that 9-6 wasn't going to be the final score.
(I'm afraid 9-7 won't be the final score either. Maybe 23-7.)
Also, cheese.
We hould have a Fantasy area
so I can bitch about my team
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 13, 2008 3:07 PM CDT reply actions
too many Brewers
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 13, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I made the fatal flaw
of drafting David Ortiz. Off to a might 0.70 AVG start. (6 total bases!)
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
I want Clark to face Mota.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
say what you want
It's never boring with Rickie out there.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
not today
I went yesterday. i've got a ton of work, sadly.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 13, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I am looking on baseball reference
For the record for most innings with a double play in a row... any ideas?
I feel like we talked about this last year
Maybe most DPs in a game or something...
He's extremely quick and good.
Yes... Joe Torre.. 4 in one game
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bgl_finder.cgi?foo=1#as=result_batter&st=&WL=any&team_lg=&opp_lg=&bats=any&throws=any&HV=any&pos_pitcher=1&pos_catcher=1&pos_first_base=1&pos_second_base=1&pos_third_base=1&pos_shortstop=1&pos_left_field=1&pos_center_field=1&pos_right_field=1&pos_designated_hitter=1&pos_pinch_hitter=1&pos_pinch_runner=1&GS=anyGS&exactness=any&c1val=4&c2val=0&c3val=0&c4val=0&firstgames=&firstteamgames=&min_year_game=1975&max_year_game=1975&series=any&series_game=any&team_id=NYM&opp_id=&game_site=&lineup_position=&orderby=date_game&c1bgl=GIDP&c1gtlt=eq&c2bgl=&c2gtlt=eq&c3bgl=&c3gtlt=eq&c4bgl=&c4gtlt=eq&_=&order_by_asc=1&foo=1
link doesn't work
but I found the most in one game... 6... so need one in the 8th and 9th to set the record
4 DPs today...2 of them might not have been
but im not going to complain
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
2 Run lead
For some reason, I'm more comfortable with Gagne having a 2 run lead then 1 or 3 run lead.
I'd sleep
with his wife. Just out of spite.
by Braunstalker on Apr 13, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
give her enough Tequila so you can take her and have Ned's name tatooed on her - with a heart and cupid's arrow of course
Seriosly
let's hire a dashing jigilo to ruin Cuzzi's marriage.
by Braunstalker on Apr 13, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
coincidence?
a koozie keeps a beer cold and Cuzzi keeps the Brewers cold
Good time for Prince's first homer
Of course Clark can steal for them
After getting thrown out 5000 times for us.
He's extremely quick and good.
the crowd noise on the radio
is ... loud. doesn't help that bob doesn't talk very much :).
Also, cheese.
Turnbow up?
It's too early to hit the hard stuff....
that is a record
I am guessing... with 6 the record all time... i am guessing they were not consecutive... get one in the 9th and make the record books!
so...wait
he won't eat meat, but he still dips?
I did, actually
The veggie meatloaf sandwich at the Comet is amazing.
He's extremely quick and good.
that play couldn't have been drawn up any better
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
why is Riske not pitching?
He was not used yesterday. Must be better than putting Mota out there in Shea
Why is he still in there!?
Rollie Fingers sweet stache' action for $500 Alex...
I wish Shouse
was available right now
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
He can thorw a strike!
here comes 15 more balls
Rollie Fingers sweet stache' action for $500 Alex...
In addition to the DP record
I think we've set a record for ugliest scoreless innings.
He's extremely quick and good.
Does Mota even have a curveball?
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 13, 2008 3:38 PM CDT reply actions
Didn't take his return
To NY as well as Cordero took his return to Milwaukee... but the end result... a two run lead going into the 9th... still doesn't feel safe at ALL
I have a crush on Kendall too
don't act like you don't
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 13, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Evil Genius...
Yost held Riske back as a insurance for Gagne
yeah, i've heard that about 23 times this weekend
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
Gagne starting to settle in
Hopefully he can avoid any more implosions
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
Looking at the box score
We were out hit 11-14, drew less walks 5-8, and struck out more 8-3... and still won the game... those double plays saved the team today...
Kind of feels like we stole something doesn't it?
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 13, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Good defense
earned us the win. Some of those double plays were really impressive, I don't feel like we got lucky at all.
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
Of course, one of those double plays wouldn't have been necessary if Hardy would have made a play on a ball
he probably should have gotten to, but I know what you're saying.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 13, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
i keep forgetting
I have MLB.tv + a killer DSL connection...
the brewers game ending doesn't mean i have to stop wasting time!
Also, cheese.
cubs win - no flag
but the cards are down against san fran- we could be tied for first by this afternoon.
"Just the kiss of the Hops"
Only regret
I was hoping for a Kendall/Brady Clark collision at home in the eighth. People in the stands would have had to shield themselves from the grit.
Did anyone else hear the home-run inning pick on the radio after Weeks' shot today? It was Craig Counsell. No joke.
Had to be one of his kids.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 13, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Mota
In his inning of work he gave up two walks and two hits but didn't allow a run. The last time a reliever came in to pitch a full inning and did that was August 22, 2004, when Blaine Neal of the Padres held the Marlins scoreless in the 7th inning despite a single, double, and two walks. Mota, Luis Castillo, and Damion Easley all played in that game as well.
Royce Ring of the Mets had an inning pitched with 2 walks and 2 hits allowed on June 30, 2005, but they were spread across the 7th and 8th innings.
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
Good stuff as always.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 13, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
funny comment from Mets world
KC wrote:
How many freakin' DP's is that?
More than a German porn film. This is ridiculous.
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