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Game Thread #13: Brewers (8-4) at Cardinals (9-4)

Mordecai_brown_tiny by Jeff Sackmann on in Game Threads

It's Dave Bush against Braden Looper.  The action starts at 7:15 CT.

The Brewers lineup, featuring Kapler against a righty and Dillon subbing for Braun, and if I do say so myself, some of you are seriously overreacting.  We all knew Kapler would start seeing time against righties as long as he kept hitting like this, and Dillon is one sub, giving Braun his first day off of the year. 

It isn't how I would do it, but compared to the "approved" lineup (Gross and Braun instead), we're losing about 3/10 of a run.  And that's assuming that Kapler and Gross both play according to their preseason projections...which at the very least, Ned probably doesn't believe.

Ok, I've stepped down from my pedestal now. 

To see what I had to say in response to 5 questions at Viva El Birdos, click here.  Scroll on down here at BCB if you want to see lboros's answers to mine.  (It's worth it.)  And if you want to drench yourself in situational stats, here's the baseball-reference game preview.

I haven't seen the official Cardinals starting lineup yet, but if they go with the same starting eight that they used against a righty on Saturday night, Project-A-tron says:

  • Brewers 4.9
  • Cardinals 4.4
  • Brewers WinExp: 51%

Also, if TLR stays true to form, we'll have a matchup of pitchers batting eighth.  Not that it matters a whole lot for the Cards--catcher/Kennedy/pitcher/Izturis is just one mass of Triple-A goodness at the plate.  Remarkably, while Izturis and Aaron Miles have gotten 12 of the 13 starts in the 9 hole, the SLG out of the 8 position is higher than that from the 9th.

Go Brewers!

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Ned’s playing the hot hand! :)

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by TheJay on Apr 15, 2008 6:44 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

performance, production and plans for the future

What goes into pitching staff decisions according to Maddux talking to Trenni.

by ol Pete on Apr 15, 2008 6:46 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

three p's

that sounds like an internal memo gone horribly awry.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 15, 2008 6:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

yeah

sounds like the PR non-answers politicians give.

by ol Pete on Apr 15, 2008 6:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

He should've just said

Grittiness, veteranniness, and spite of Pete :)

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by TheJay on Apr 15, 2008 6:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

he’s there all right…

by ol Pete on Apr 15, 2008 6:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Did he say

what the difference is between performance and production for a pitcher?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Apr 15, 2008 6:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Did anyone catch Pujols on WSSP?

Albert is really kind of funny.

I get confused between Cliffy and Sparky but what dopey questions.

by ol Pete on Apr 15, 2008 6:55 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

hey hey

just got off the phone with a reporter from the Wall Street Journal…they might be running a piece on the pitcher-8th business.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 15, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Are you saying

Ned is responsible for the recession? Startling!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Apr 15, 2008 7:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ned

is still buying Bear Stearns stock. He loves the veterans.

Good time for Prince's first homer

by molitorfan on Apr 15, 2008 7:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

WSJ is running out of news...?

How about JPM’s $77 trillion in derivitive exposure? Nah, baseball’s sexier.

by heybatterbatter on Apr 15, 2008 7:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

yeah

all this lineup-analysis-related math…way sexy.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 15, 2008 7:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i forgot the interesting part

I mentioned that Powell hasn’t been too excited about the pitcher batting 8th, so the reporter said he’d give Powell a call. Will be interesting to hear how that goes.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 15, 2008 7:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

ut oh

You are going to be on his crap list. Powell defending baseball tradition over stats

Good time for Prince's first homer

by molitorfan on Apr 15, 2008 7:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Plenty of good storylines today

and its beanball redux and Bushy, but as they beat those two to death, I realized that Seth the big Scot is the long guy. Wonder if he gets some time tonight.

by ol Pete on Apr 15, 2008 7:06 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

No Kapler

Jim Powell says he banged his shoulder into the wall and was scratched.

by KLSnow on Apr 15, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

who is starting for him?

Good time for Prince's first homer

by molitorfan on Apr 15, 2008 7:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Gross.

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by TheJay on Apr 15, 2008 7:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

well

that pushes Brewers projected runs up to 5.1, and the winexp up to 52.5%.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 15, 2008 7:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Fun

I just don’t want to think about where he was scratched.

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by TheJay on Apr 15, 2008 7:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Let's go Brewers!

Need a real baseball win to offset my fantasy baseball woes (Bedard/Ortiz were my first two picks)

Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains

by SRB on Apr 15, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

oh Trenni...

workin the windblown thing…

by ol Pete on Apr 15, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

a commenter at VEB

says Soriano got hurt “doing that stupid hop he does” and left the game.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 15, 2008 7:16 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

it is weird… only wish I could know what Kosuke thinks as he watches him.

by ol Pete on Apr 15, 2008 7:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Weeks...

I was expecting a lead off HR like against the Mets… oh well

by Kyguy922 on Apr 15, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

wow

he HAD made me forget about chris magruder! And those were the years I went to the most games, too.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 15, 2008 7:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

hopefully

his last start as a Brewer

Good time for Prince's first homer

by molitorfan on Apr 15, 2008 7:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Here comes our 3 hitter

With 1 career HR and 11 career RBI

by Kyguy922 on Apr 15, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Look on the bright side

He could double his career home run total with one swing. Even Braun can’t do that.

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by TheJay on Apr 15, 2008 7:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Why not

bat Bush #3, he could make history as the 1st pitcher to hit a HR batting in the 3 spot…

by Kyguy922 on Apr 15, 2008 7:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Our 3rd and 4rh batters

have the same BA as Pujols….if you combine them both! :(

by heybatterbatter on Apr 15, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

I don't want to spoil it

But they win in the end.

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by TheJay on Apr 15, 2008 7:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

are you saying they make it back to earth???

then this episode about nelix and his unusual cooking doesnt need to be watched…

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by Jamie in LA on Apr 15, 2008 7:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Looks like the strikezone is a bit wide

Especially inside. Hopefully Bush can take advantage of that and not throw too many meatballs.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 15, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

If he does throw meatballs

Too bad the guy who’d lay off them is on our team!

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by TheJay on Apr 15, 2008 7:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i like it, BUT...

i find it strange that he signed with the brewers. dont you guys think it will be tough for him to make the Major League Roster?

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by Jamie in LA on Apr 15, 2008 7:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I don't know...

let’s say somebody is moved to the pen for GAllardo, then if somebody else gets hurt in the next month (even if just a 15-day DL thing) before that guy can be stretched out again, we need somebody. Weaver instead of Narveson…eh.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 15, 2008 7:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

ya. i can see that.

i guess i just dont see why weaver would sign here. we obviously have a lot of guys that can be in our rotation.

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by Jamie in LA on Apr 15, 2008 7:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

maybe nobody else wanted him :)

or he figured if he was going to sign somewhere, might as well be a contender.

anyway, there’s an out clause…probably the biggest benefit to him is to be pitching in AAA. If he pitches well for a month, he’ll have a MLB job somewhere by June 1st, whether in Milwaukee or not.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 15, 2008 7:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

There really is no risk for us in this deal

If he makes it to the majors and contributes in any way, its found money. If he doesn’t make it, then he becomes a free agent again and no harm is done. I don’t see the risk.

by verno329 on Apr 15, 2008 7:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

$4-$5mln

As the most possible… Not a bad deal, if he plays well, pay him…

What would you predict he would have to accomplish to earn the full incentive?

I would say win 15 games? Any other predictions what it would be tied to? # of starts, ERA, Ks, Wins?

by Kyguy922 on Apr 15, 2008 7:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

probably innings, mostly

almost all starter incentive clauses are innings-related.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 15, 2008 7:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

WOW

Nice start…. maybe the pressure being, he knows this is the most important start of his career, could decide whether he starts 20 games this year, or 0

by Kyguy922 on Apr 15, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

an 89 mph fastball and he’s pounding strikes as well. Unfortunately big Al punches one through.

by ol Pete on Apr 15, 2008 7:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Not a bad pitch that Albert hit

But why would you have a shift if you going to pitch him outside?

by throughhyperspace on Apr 15, 2008 7:27 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Albert going first to third mighty spryly – ahhhhh… and into home with a stlide as well…

by ol Pete on Apr 15, 2008 7:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Derosa

2 run homer, Cubs up 2-1

by Kyguy922 on Apr 15, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

um,...

what does the ACTIONS button do in the thread next to REPLY?

and, what is 0 recs?

(i promise i wont ask anymore dumb questions today…)

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by Jamie in LA on Apr 15, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

recs = recommendations

if you click “rec”, you’re “recommending” a comment. If 4 people recommend it, it gets highlighted so nobody misses it.

Click “actions” and you get a bunch of stuff:
-Flag (do this if it’s a troll or spam or something)
-Rec (above)
-Delete (obvious)
-Hide (obvious)

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 15, 2008 7:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   2 recs

Hey!

I don’t get the delete and hide God powers.. Unfair!!

by throughhyperspace on Apr 15, 2008 7:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

oops :)

I’ll bet you have the option to delete your own comments, right?

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 15, 2008 7:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I don't think so

Us mere mortals don’t get anything if we click actions on our own posts (at least I don’t…)

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by TheJay on Apr 15, 2008 7:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   1 recs

interesting.

good to know.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 15, 2008 7:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Actually

no.. The “actions” link just disappears, lol..

by throughhyperspace on Apr 15, 2008 7:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Clicking actions lets you flag or recommend other people's posts

The “recs” thing is just the number of recommendations a particular post has gotten. Flag is used for unacceptable/obscene posts.

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by TheJay on Apr 15, 2008 7:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

BA and Schroeder in rare form

Talking about Glaus looking for his first home run as a Cardinal, and then talking about the trade with Rolen. BA then says “Rolen of to a nice start in Toronto” followed by a Schroeder “MmmHmm”. Rolen’s stats this year: 0 PA, .000/.000/.000

by Stoa on Apr 15, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs