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Game Thread #19: Cardinals (12-7) at Brewers (11-7)

I haven't read any official announcements as to who is in or out of the starting rotation, but for tonight anyway, it appears that Villanueva's spot is safe.  Maybe that means Ned is trying to keep his main guys on a regular schedule; maybe it means Bush is out of the rotation.  Whatever it means, we have Carlos to look forward to tonight, and he's taking on Adam Wainwright.

Tom H has the lineups, and there are no surprises.  With a righty on the mound, Gross is in there again.  I know some of you are apoplectic about all the playing time Gross has gotten, but he does have a .763 career OPS against righties, while Kapler's OPS vRH is .724.  It's not a slam-dunk decision either way, but there's no reason to think that just because Gross is off to a rough start (in all of 44 PAs) means that his career is over and the Brewers are handicapped every time he's in the lineup.

While you're waiting for the game to start, give KLSnow some feedback as to who the AL award winners are up to this point.  So far we've got a grand total of three votes, including his and mine.

Finally, the project-a-tron likes our chances back at Miller Park:

  • Brewers 5.1
  • Cardinals 4.65
  • Brewers WinExp: 58%

It didn't look that way in the last series, but I still maintain that the bottom of the Cardinals lineup (Molina/Kennedy/pitcher/Izturis) could be brutal.  Let's hope Villanueva got that memo.

Go Brewers!

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a request to further my laziness

Can the starting time be included in the game thread headlines, please? :)

by Zeyes on Apr 21, 2008 4:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i'll take it under consideration :)

for the slightly less lazy, click on the ‘schedule’ link under the top banner, and there’s a list of all 2008 games + start times.

tonight it’s 7:05 CT.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nevermind

Just noticed that nifty automated (?) game preview in the right-hand sidebar which has the start time. I really need to spend more time checking out all the widgets on the new site version.

by Zeyes on Apr 21, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too :)

there are more that I haven’t activated or included yet.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Die GAGne Die

sorry still not quite over yesterdays game hopefully by first pitch I will be able to control my Die GAGne Die tick

7 more games and we will be asking Gabe Gross Who? Wasn’t he Ned Yost Cabana Boy last season ;)

Its all about the Bullpen this season that is the key.

by WSB Chris on Apr 21, 2008 4:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But what would we do with only 13 pitchers?

by SunglassesAtNight on Apr 21, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

I’m still not too pissed about the Gagne signing. I know the blown saves are killers, but I still have a little bit of faith. The one that really kills me is the home run to corey patterson. Coery patterson is a fastball hitter and nothing else. As for the season opener, I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt since there was bad weather and Kerry Wood also gave up 3 that inning. Last nights, I think that falls under the Yosting category. I’m proceding with caution at this point, but I’m not at the death wishes stage yet

by SunglassesAtNight on Apr 21, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Breaking up is hard to do

If Bushie is out of the rotation, Ned can console himself with two more weeks of Gross. After that, he’ll be very cranky.

What are the odds of Gallardo and Gross being swapped in the batting order his next start? Gross in 2007, 7 HRs in 183 AB; YoGa had 2 HRs in 40 AB and a higher Slugging % by 40 points. Everyone keep that in mind the next time we hear that Gross is on the bench to provide ‘pop’. It isn’t HRs they are talking about, Gross is the designated guy to run back to the dressing room and grab a soda for Prince.

by Getting Yosted on Apr 21, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Slow start

Do you mean to say that Gross is off to a rough start in 2008, or for his whole career? It’s tough to remember a time when he played well.

by Marty McSuperFly on Apr 21, 2008 5:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He also got off to a quick start last year, along with TBGH and Jenks, if memory serves.

Then he returned to general suckiness, er, grittiness.

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 21, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't you remember

The pinch-hit home run he had in his first at-bat as a Brewer? That sort of thing gets/got people excited about Mike Rivera, too.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really getting sick of Gabe Gross

Does anybody know when we’ll get Tony Gwynn or Gabe Kapler back? I keep hearing soon, but I’m losing my patience

by SunglassesAtNight on Apr 21, 2008 5:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Win Expectancy

58%+ seems a little high to me. :)

I run my simulator 3000 times for every NL West game and compare results to LV Hilton Sports Book (they are 1.6% ahead at the moment). I ran your game and looked at the Vegas odds to compare to your 58% number. Here is what I got.

Win Expectancy:
LV Hilton SB: Brewers 50.98%
My Simulator: Cardinals ~52%

Good luck,
vr, Xeifrank

by Xeifrank on Apr 21, 2008 6:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what stats you're using

But based on ZiPS projections, it’s pretty clear how it comes out that way. ZiPS has Villanueva as not much worse than Wainwright and the Milwaukee bullpen a smidge better than the Cards.

The offense is the big diff … with tonight’s lineups, I have the following (against average right-handed competition):
Brewers 5.09
Cards 4.47

I’m guessing the difference boils down to estimates of Villanueva.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now that I look, though...

it’s more than just Villy. In order to get a 50/50 game, keeping all other assumptions the same, I need Villy’s RA to go up to about 6.50.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stat fight Stat fight

Everyone man your slide rules remember the rules no pulling of ties no knocking glasses off and above all no touching of pocket protectors ;)

I kid because well I am not in the same room with Jeff so he cannot hit me

Its all about the Bullpen this season that is the key.

by WSB Chris on Apr 21, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My mistake

I had the Cardinals as the home team and stats adjusted to their home park. I am re-running the sim and won’t get a whole lot of samples in before I take off. As it stands now after 500 games the Brewers are winning around 55% of them. :)
vr, Xeifrank

by Xeifrank on Apr 21, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1000 samples

Brewers 52.6%
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Apr 21, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Villy

Depending on how much stock you put in the 2008 PITCHf/x data it appears Carlos has lost a little off his fastball from last year. That is causing a much smaller gap between his fastball and his change (down to an alarming small 6 MPH). It will be interesting to see if he can get the fastball in the low 90’s this start.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 7:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright!

mlb.tv is giving me the Brewers feed … so no Mad Hungarian for me.

I’ll try not to be whining about Rock by the 5th inning.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 7:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BA just mentioned the 89 walks for the cards

For a team without much power that is a huge total so far. Card fans have to be loving that as they really need the offense.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Whew

They were also just talking about Hamels coming in Wednesday. That should be an interesting matchup with our lefty mashing group.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bush against Hamels

that may be a mismatch

Good time for Prince's second homer

by molitorfan on Apr 21, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh brother,

you just really bummed me out – we would’ve had Sheets v Hamels to look forward to?!

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn

25 pitches in the first. Carlos better start getting that pitch count down so that he can last deeper into his starts

by Oakland Brewer Fan on Apr 21, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thats what 14 pitchers are for ;)

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't worry

Ned’ll put Gagne in again tonight. You know, to help him forget what happened last night…

by Oakland Brewer Fan on Apr 21, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was close

I’d prefer if it kept it a little less interesting

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Or

0-2 with a BB and a HBP

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs up 2-0

At least they are starting to play some better teams but man I just can’t wait until they hit the road.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That comes in September

They already filed a formal protest because of the schedule.

by brewfan2 on Apr 21, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

today one topic of discussion on Chicago radio was whether the better play was due to the lack of crazy Al.

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lineup

It’s sad when your lineup is hitting a combined .228 (.302 OBP) coming into the game.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that isolated patience

isn’t bad…

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

but when I see our record after seeing that stat I feel a little better. Once we start hitting we should be fine

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

11-7

makes me feel better about that avg.

by brewfan2 on Apr 21, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea,

it seems like the only time I can remember this team putting it all together was early and mid-last season and boy were they scary good.

Frankly, I would take the more consistent approach of late – relying on pitching on timely hitting over the 10-8 losses that prevailed a couple of years ago.

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If anyone's curious

The BABIP of the lineup out there so far is .259

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's typical?

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 21, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

.300ish

league average so far this year is a bit lower.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The NL average this year is .287 – it’s usually around .300

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is that for the Brewers?

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder

What kind of money Sheets will get on the market if he has a good year but only makes 25 starts this year?

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if he decided to go that route

imagine what kind of deal Ben could get if he made it known he wanted an incentive laden deal. What would the Yanks or Sox guarantee for, say, 30 starts?

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're making me think of

the Weaver deal we’ve just handed out…

by Zeyes on Apr 21, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good question

I’m very curious as to how much he can get. And if someone like Boston or NY will give big money to a guy with his injury history

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to see a little hometown discount...

if such a thing exists in this day and age.

I don’t think it will happen either, just saying.

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 21, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better inning for Carlos

Bottom of the order but still nice.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well, most…

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I agree

I was just muttering to myself that the first curve looked good to me.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why exactly does Villy switch hit again?

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BCB's Opinion

Brewers Alternate Home Jersey: Who’s name should I go with?

Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains

by SRB on Apr 21, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

any already used?

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

on previous jersey's, that is

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

None on the current roster

Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains

by SRB on Apr 21, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm partial towards Hart

or possibly YoGa

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can’t go wrong with Hart, either.

by throughhyperspace on Apr 21, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Molitor

Good time for Prince's second homer

by molitorfan on Apr 21, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't beat Molitor

I already have one of him though. It’s down to Gallardo/Hart, so tough to decide though!

Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains

by SRB on Apr 21, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brock

Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 21, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yo FSN,

can I see the infield plays? You know, the game.

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

mmmmmm

Stadium Sauce….

Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 21, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he’s really been looking good in RF. Not on that one.

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think it's turnbow

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 21, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is Inigo Montoya

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 21, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So,

who should “prepare to die”?

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Albert

7th inning. Villy’s final pitch of the night.

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 21, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well the walk to Pujols wasn't horrible

But the next walk really was the problem.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

especially when the full count pitch isn’t close

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just about to compliment Villa's

Vargas-like grittiness until Hart looked worse than Duncan did not too long ago..

by throughhyperspace on Apr 21, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not watching,

was Hart that bad on that play?

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was almost a HR and from what they’ve shown, he didn’t look very good. Not that it was an easy play though.

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ol' homer Jim Powell

didn’t make it sound like anything but a blast that hit the top of the fence.

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve got FSN and they SUCK so I’m not sure

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not easy,

but he facing the ball, looked like he mistimed his jump

It did look like a homer off the bat, but FSN’s camera work was really bad.

by throughhyperspace on Apr 21, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FSN Wisconsin

are they seriously retarded? Why can’t they follow the d*$# ball?

Good time for Prince's second homer

by molitorfan on Apr 21, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

who says this guy has no Extra Base power?

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that's more of a placement double than a power double

Not all doubles are created equal – wallbanger different than down the liner..

by Lake County on Apr 21, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok Rickie

your turn.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rickie!

Good time for Prince's second homer

by molitorfan on Apr 21, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So I am watching the cubs game on TV and the brewer game on the computer

Is there any team that whines more than the Cubs? Every time I look up they are complaining to the umps.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well,

if their fans are considered a “team,” that’s one I could think of.

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

day before yesterday maybe, they had one of the umps on a radio show and they were talking to him like ol buddys. They kept talking about a restaurant, The Chop House, where the umps are “treated like royalty.”

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

If they have the umps that were in Cincinnati, they might have a point.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that Wendelstedt dude was crazy

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, Angel Hernandez at home plate

I faintly recall him not being too popular around one of last year’s game threads (or maybe I’m hallucinating that).

by Zeyes on Apr 21, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rickie's stache not looking too strong

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 21, 2008 7:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

terrible

Good time for Prince's second homer

by molitorfan on Apr 21, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't be as bad

as Game day

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Apr 21, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as fearless leader, the Jeffster, would say, that’s a low threshhold

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed but Damn

You are the damn MLB, you got money, don’t tell me it can’t be done right!

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Apr 21, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"You are the damn MLB, you got money"

All MLB-affiliated folks lose you at that point…

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Braun

nice at bat

Good time for Prince's second homer

by molitorfan on Apr 21, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and he almost hit a dinger time before. I hope he made Duncan swallow that tabacco

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TV Production

What the hell is going on here? Is it intern day?

by Lake County on Apr 21, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No

If it was intern day, there’s a chance they’d know what they were doing.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There isn't a production strike or something is there

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 21, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

F'in FSN

Show the play at 2nd…I don’t want to see Weeks running toward the dugout

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 21, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow they must really repect Fielder

Or not think there are going to be many more runs.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Make'em pay Corey!

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Apr 21, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Poor Prince

Looking at him straining to reach second made me feel bad for the guy.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At least they tied it up

The offense showing some signs of life here.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

good inning

lets see if Villy can settle down and work a quick inning

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by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thankfully, yes

"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott

by dux2bux on Apr 21, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Creepy

Menards commercial on FSN and WTMJ at the same time…

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow, I leave the room for two minutes

to grab something to eat and the inning is over already. Good job Villy.

by Zeyes on Apr 21, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, mustache plus the soul patch

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

April

Must be look like Mike Maddux month in the team’s clubhouse.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So,

at least FSN has the whole facial hair status sufficiently covered, apparently.

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and spitting

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh,

I must thank yahweh for XM radio that I’m spared all that.

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His is especially hilarious

Ignore under the lip and he looks like John Dillinger.

by throughhyperspace on Apr 21, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What if

A runner tries to steal and he shoots him down?

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tell him to be careful coming out of theaters...

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 21, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Batting with RISP

I like how FSN continues to show that graphic as the Brewers lead over the rest of the NL dwindles.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hey

as long as they’re not showing the graphic because we’re on the bottom of the list…

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

It’s just funny how it was .400+, then .350+, then .300+, and now .296 or something around there.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

like Kendall's batting average

it keeps shrinking down to “pretty darn good”

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"good effort by Gabe"

I can make a good effort. Week and a day till Cameron I think.

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On the bright side

He kept it in front of him.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

that was important

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Villy settling down here

Several nice innings in a row.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 8:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just to follow that up

Only pitches so he could go an inning or two more. Not that we should need that with 4 pitchers.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hope Yost doesn't listen to the FSN broadcast

Scott Skiles and his gritty gutty style would make his way on to the roster with a quickness

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by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Milwaukee might want to put some levees

to hold off the flood of grit from their two major league sports organizations.

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

very quick inning from the top of our order

Not what I had in mind after their strong effort last time up.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BA

BA’s quote: “The FSN cameras are always watching.” Not so sure about that.

by oconnobe on Apr 21, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The cameras are watching

It’s the production truck that’s on another world.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not a picky eater

but cold big Macs doesn’t sound good. Maybe they got a microwave in there somewhere.

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Or hot special sauce, oh wait....

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by 80badger on Apr 21, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Irony

Culver’s is based in WI and sponsors the Cubs
McDonald’s is based in IL and sponsors the Brewers

by Lake County on Apr 21, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh boy,

I wish that was reversed, and not because of the regional loyalty issue at all.

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

nice catch.

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by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs got bases juiced

with one out

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by 80badger on Apr 21, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

those poor Cardinals

being the victims of 10% of Fielder’s home runs last season, quite impressive what with them constituting just 9.3% of the Crew’s schedule…

Rock really needs to leave the numbers thing to somebody else.

by Zeyes on Apr 21, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they get fed numbers

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure but

it surely was Schroeder’s decision to make it sound as though the Cards had been particularly victimized.

by Zeyes on Apr 21, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea,

that is a reach.

but then it is a pretty slow game so far.

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how many of Hall's homers

came against the Reds last year?

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

isn't it possible

that Fielder hit two homers in one of those games?

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPNs lil pitch fx thing Is pretty cool

That was a really impressive at bat Fukudome had. I mean really, really impressive..

yeah, I’m resigned to watching the Cubs game because of some unwatchable feed issues over Charter in S central Wi..

And now the cubs are up, 4-1 bottom 8th

by throughhyperspace on Apr 21, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That yellow line in football

has gotten quite accurate and subsequently, useful in the last few years

by throughhyperspace on Apr 21, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both teams have the pitcher up next inning

An interesting decision for both managers.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow some scary words there by Trenni.

Going to Gagne again would be insane.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't she know

she should just stick to looking HOT!

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by 80badger on Apr 21, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe I’m wrong, but her makeup level seems to be steadily increasing.

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no kidding

I actually shuddered a little bit when she said that. Baffling

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by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice night Villy

but it is time to call it a night sir!

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by 80badger on Apr 21, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

98 pitches I think I agree

But if Gross gets on ahead of him I might leave him in if Yost is going to bunt. Those bench players are precious here.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let Gallardo hit

He’s not much of a downgrade from the rest of the bench.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

the Cubs are soooo hot right now.

Who does that remind me of…...

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

in a way that Pee-eh homer is good cuz that guy always swings for them. He’s going to remember today for a very long time.

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

best one:

Derek Zoolander: How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read if they can’t even fit inside the building?

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow...

Parra set to pinch-hit.

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by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nope, Suppan

geez, Yost is single-handedly going to create the pinch-bunter position.

by Zeyes on Apr 21, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bill jokes

Parra was a decoy.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When is the last time

Turbo worked?

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by 80badger on Apr 21, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

April 15

Against the Cardinals.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

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by 80badger on Apr 21, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suppan here

interesting.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Best bunter on the team

So I hear.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At first i thought he was talking about Parra

I’m thinking “isn’t this the same guy who broke a finger bunting last year?”

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by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It worked

No sh!t it worked, lol..

by throughhyperspace on Apr 21, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats a pretty fundamental error

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kendall's grit makes up for Gabe's mistake

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by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those of us suffering

on Gameday still have no idea what happen. Please enlighten us on Gross’s faux pax

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by 80badger on Apr 21, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Took off from second toward third

On a ground ball in front of him and was tagged out in a rundown.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, he played catcher in college

But that doesn’t mean Dave Bush is a good-hitting pitcher. Hell, he’s barely average for a pitcher. I fail to understand why he’s always brought up when they mention Gallardo and Parra.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

some questions can’t be answered

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's a duality

Bad-hitting pitchers: Sheets, Doug Davis et al. Good-hitting pitchers: everybody else.

by Zeyes on Apr 21, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like a battle of the bullpens

With how good the cardinal’s pen has been that probably isn’t a good thing.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ryan Ludwick

Just when I was going to say he’s an example of a righty that’s terrible against lefties, he goes and makes the defense screw up.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I made a play like Corey Hart just did

...freshman year of high school.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

great start by Villy

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by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the park went silent

Awful quiet here. And he was hidden behind the wall so long chasing it, from behind the plate it looked like maybe he was down. Yuck

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by MSOBB on Apr 21, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yep

Mota warming up.

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by MSOBB on Apr 21, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cool!

technology to the rescue.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

god bless verizon

My favorite part of every game is when the local cable company announces that they have wifi….in the parking lot. Ridiculous.

Go Mota.

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by MSOBB on Apr 21, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahh, tailgating

brats, beer, and …brewers.com?

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

want to respond

But I’m busy crying into my beer and chucking my laptop over the railing and down into the field level. Geez. C’MON Mota…

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by MSOBB on Apr 21, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

tee hee

I promise I’ll let you know if anything amazing happens here.

For what it’s worth, I always learn a ton by reading your blog while watching the bame.

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by MSOBB on Apr 21, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i mean game

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by MSOBB on Apr 21, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow...that was b-i-g

dp ball, right here.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mota up in the pen

Why not Riske? He gets more grounders.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

logic...bullpen usage...

i don’t understand what you’re getting at.

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by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way off topic

I was just checking on some PITCHf/x stuff for Mota and I accidentally clicked on Jamie Moyer who is right next to him. MLBAM claims he has thrown exactly 3 fastballs all year. Yeah maybe they need to work on that pitch identification algorithm.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well...

...he does stretch the definition of fastball.

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by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and really,

you can’t expect an organization making millions of dollars to hire somebody as smart as you are. come on, if they did that, it might cut into bud’s salary!

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by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn,

those Cards have great plate discipline.

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

from on 0-2 count no less

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well that could have been worse

Heart of the order due up. This is the inning to do something.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 9:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they better

I say 58%, vegas says 50% ... 8% of project-a-tron’s honor is at stake!

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by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Braun

defending its honor.

Good time for Prince's second homer

by molitorfan on Apr 21, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

alright ryan!

that looked very good.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 9:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great start here

Do they walk Fielder here again?

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Prince

shorten up that swing buddy

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by molitorfan on Apr 21, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

some terrible D in right tonight

Good time for Prince's second homer

by molitorfan on Apr 21, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ludwick

Making up for Corey’s miscue in the field when he was batting!

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Rock doesn't study

No great arms in the Cardinals outfield?

Nice return error by Ludwick, there!

by Marty McSuperFly on Apr 21, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

can’t sat I saw that coming

by ksbrewer on Apr 21, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

the radio delay is astounding…

by Oakland Brewer Fan on Apr 21, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's just

The universe correcting itself from last inning. You know…science.

by andrew_p on Apr 21, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hart

trying to get back to goat status

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by molitorfan on Apr 21, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

how does Corey make it all the way to 3rd?!?!

nice hustle

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by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cards RF let the ball pass him

by ol Pete on Apr 21, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cards didn't want to feel left out

in the three-base error department…

by Zeyes on Apr 21, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good Lord

Gagne’s up in the pen!?

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Corey

made sure he’s not getting in

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by molitorfan on Apr 21, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is one of those games

where the great pitching is outdone by the defensive miscues

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 9:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

FSN/Time Warner

Is a terrible HD combo. Whenever the important part of a replay comes up, it cuts out.

Get it together, for christ’s sake.

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 21, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF!?!?!!?

WHY IS GAGNE WARMING UP?

by SunglassesAtNight on Apr 21, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Clearly Ned knows that my dog needs to be let out and that I can’t watch Gagne throw anymore. See, Ned cares about animals

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by verno329 on Apr 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gagne down

Turnbow up now. Pick your poison, I guess.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh boy.

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 21, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turnbow better be electric tonight

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 21, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

I hate his acoustic stuff

by 400metres on Apr 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I will appropriately

apply recs after hours on archive when others have missed it. Like scoring a hit on a questionable defensive play.

"Just the kiss of the Hops"

by Gus Lezcano on Apr 22, 2008 2:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he's supposed to hit Molina

To make up for picking Hart off.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take Brett Michaels

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by molitorfan on Apr 21, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

damn

another one

"Just the kiss of the Hops"

by Gus Lezcano on Apr 22, 2008 2:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the pitcher fake-out

isn’t limited just to bunting, perhaps.

by Zeyes on Apr 21, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turnbow

I will take that… it looks like it will be tied… like him to see put down the players 1-2-3 when we don’t score in the 8th, and give him the W with a game winner by Braun

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Apr 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Gagne inspired me to write an article about relief pitchers throwing multiple days

I didn’t have any data for four days in a row much less five. If you wan to see the article it will be up tomorrow.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cordero went six straight at one point last year

And four straight another time.

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by TheJay on Apr 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it wasn't tracked by PITCHf/x though

Which is what I was working on.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you have

any data broken down by age, i would guess some younger guys could potentially do it, but older players like gagne, not so much

by SunglassesAtNight on Apr 21, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

I barely had enough data to do the simple study. Complicated things like that will have to wait for this year.

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by dixieflatline on Apr 21, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that article waiting

i figured it was no coincidence. i used my tht privilege and read it already :).

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by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep, good stuff

glad to see it, since i had put something similar on my list.

I used to be ticked when people did stuff on my list … now I’m glad that other people are shortening my list for me :).

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by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 21, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

at least now

we get to blow it with a fresh arm

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