Game Thread #25: Marlins (14-10) at Brewers (14-10)
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 27, 2008 11:30 AM CDT
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PrintI'm curious to see how this game turns out. We've had two relatively low-scoring contests between powerhouse offenses, and not only that, but the starters have thrown with the hand that the other team feasts on.
This afternoon is different--the Brewers will start lefty Manny Parra and the Marlins go with Ricky Nolasco, a righty. It's also different in that neither of them have been any semblance of good so far this year. Here's the BR Game Preview with all the numbers to that effect you could ever want.
It's getting old to say this, but once again, Parra may be pitching for his job. He's been passable, but has topped out at four innings twice. If Ned has to pick between someone mediocre who can give him 5 innings and someone mediocre who can give him 6+, we all know what decision he'll make.
Here are the lineups--it's reserve day at Miller Park. It's not a bad idea, either: first righty starter in a while, so it make sense to put Gwynn and Counsell in there.
Game time is 1:05 CT. Let's go Brewers!
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Wet Paper Bag?
I hope there’s a wet paper bag that Counsell/Rivera/TGJ can hit out of. Or at least try to.
I shall be there.. by myself (Discount tix + nothing going on = I’ll go)
I don't mind the bench guys getting in
With Cameron coming back on Tues Gwynn’s chances for playing time will go down a bunch. Give him a chance to get at least one start in. And two days off for Kendall can only help.
Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay
Fish pitcher gives up a pretty high batting average vs lefties
Its not like Billy has been ripping the ball and Gwynn provides a defensive upgrade as well.
FSN
Just showed a tailgating fan chugging a beer bong on the way to commercial.
CLASSY
Do you call that a beer bong?
I call it a shotgun. Have you ever seen Vietnam war footage of “shotguns” which were smoke and not beverage?
I will agree
it looked like a smaller, “travel size” bong.
I prefer the double ones that you can do with a friend!
(to answer you question: no, I have not….looks like a fun research question)
interesting
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
Thanks for the link
...time to head to Wal-Mart for a shottie!
You might see me in "Going Postal II"
...If Gagne blows another save int he month of April
Is it just me
Or does Braun always over-swing early in games?
Braun
He’s got to realize from last nights game after hitting 2 dribblers.
Parra's first three ML hits have been doubles
Only Mark Prior and Tyler Green have exceeded him among pitchers, doubling for their first four hits; Green’s sixth hit was also a double.
He's extremely quick and good.
Turns out those are the longest streaks among all positions, not just P
He's extremely quick and good.
Nolasco
Feels like he has been in the league for 10 years…
Zach Braddock is on the mound for West Virginia. The game just started.
He's extremely quick and good.
Weird
The Brewers have the Brevard County/Vero Beach score up on the LF wall. How long have they been doing that?
He's extremely quick and good.
One run
on no hits…could have been a bigger inning but that’s still production.
Fastball velocity down to 91 in that inning
Was it like that before he got hit on the shin? I wasn’t paying attention.
He's extremely quick and good.
Ha
For anyone not watching the FSN broadcast, Yost wanted to start Counsell but didn’t think either Weeks or Hall deserved to sit, so he had them pick out of a hat.
He's extremely quick and good.
Trenni points out that
this is the “Democratic way”. Hmm…
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul."
the most disturbing part
he wants to get counsell two starts per series?
Trenni doesn't know what she's talking about
She got nervous and started stumbling over her words. “per homestand” was closer to what he meant, I’m sure.
He's extremely quick and good.
It's official
ned picks his lineup out of a hat
Thought for a minute Parra was gonna beat that out and ruin his streak
He's extremely quick and good.
unfortunately he seems to be eating a lot of seeds and who knows what else, including while playing in the field.
Time to have the ol’ ball and chain lay down the law.
Gotta get his protein somewhere
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul."
I think that's grit
he’s sucking on.
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul."
Beckett?
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul."
oops
I just saw that Beckett also had 8 k thru 3 (9 thru 4 now). Thought that was what you meant. Got it now.
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul."
Powell
almost just said “time to get up and stretch em out” before the commercial, until he realized it was only the 3rd inning.
Braunie
was able to break up the no-hitter at least.
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul."
I'm going to be reserved in my prediction
I sense an above average inning coming up
Above average
for Hardy/Rivera/Counsell? Or in general?
Last week I went to Philadelphia, but it was closed.
by Citizen Braun on Apr 27, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Braddock gave up an unearned run in the 4th
4 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 10 K
He's extremely quick and good.
Braddock's done after four
Fellow pitching prospect Dan Merklinger gets in his first game of the season and strikes out two in the fifth. That makes three non-K outs for Delmarva in five innings.
He's extremely quick and good.
Ukraine is strong!
Last week I went to Philadelphia, but it was closed.
by Citizen Braun on Apr 27, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Brewers held down by...
Nolasco
Someone tell me that the Marlins pitching coach is a genius so I feel better about it.
Parra looks like he's laboring...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 2:58 PM CDT reply actions
Yep.
Tough break for Parra. There should be more than a 1 run margin of error with this lineup.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Wes Helms, Brewer Killer
It’s like he still plays for us
Last week I went to Philadelphia, but it was closed.
I got a lot of strange looks last year
Booing him like a rabid dog from the cheap seats at Citizen’s Bank
Last week I went to Philadelphia, but it was closed.
by Citizen Braun on Apr 27, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Manny may have just made his last start for a while.
Personally, I still think it makes more sense to send Bush to the pen and McClung down, but I doubt Ned sees it that way. It was a good start, and he made it through 5 1/3, which is better than his last couple of turns, but I don’t think it will be good enough to keep his spot in the rotation….
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply actions
would have been nice to get through 6 without giving up 2 runs
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
Which is exactly my point.
Ned likes Bush, so if it’s a close call, he keeps his starting spot. Though it was great compared to what he had been putting up.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but you should be able to get more than 1 run in support too.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I know.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs in their last at bat...
still down 2-0.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply actions
He's having a tough day for sure.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd drink myself silly too
if I had a batting stance like his
That's a shame.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Where has RJ been latey anyway?
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
lately, i mean...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
How do you think they'll explain that shutout since they can't blame Soriano?
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought so too...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Cantu
is that guy in little league I would try to hit the ball at, then run to first as fast as I could.
lol
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Must be the beardlet he's grown..
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Problem: slow game
Solution: put in the Bow!
Oh, wait…
Hey, I was sick of 1 run games anyway...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
With Sheets hurt and T-Bow on the roster,
it’s like playing with 23 guys.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Now he'll hit the clubhouse and figure out how much he got paid per ball thrown...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
First time I've ever seen T-Bow
take out his frustrations in the dugout. Truth is I feel bad for the guy, but how long can you keep him around waiting for him get himself together again?
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
5.2 innings
with 8 hits and 9 walks on the season for Bow
he does seem like a great guy
but now he’s a multi-millionaire. Celebrate. But someone slap Ned and Doug and tell them to just let go.
stetter going to do his best shouse impression?
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
Our Bullpen
Moustache had to be thinking that even a few guys from the T-Bow/Gagne/Mota/Riske pool were completely toast, the chances of every single one of them pitching terribly at the same time was pretty low.
I really liked the logic—uncorrelated bets, and all that. Who cares if Gagne struggles when you can plug in one of our corps of former all-stars? They can’t ALL be complete busts, right?
That’s not really much consolation right now.
Last week I went to Philadelphia, but it was closed.
Wow.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:32 PM CDT reply actions
TBow put the stink eye on him.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
HA...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
It's almost as if the "hold" is an arbitrary, nearly meaningless statistic...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow.
What the hell, give Stetter a bat too!
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:35 PM CDT reply actions
I second that.
Last week I went to Philadelphia, but it was closed.
by Citizen Braun on Apr 27, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
So, does TBow have options left?
And if so, did he just punch his ticket to AAA?
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions
Wasn't he originally a waiver pickup for the Brewers?
If so, I’m thinking that means he doesn’t have options left
That's what I thought.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
That was maybe the most inexplicable thing I can remember happening in baseball
He's extremely quick and good.
Jeez... that camerman made me think it was coming down at the wall...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:42 PM CDT reply actions
Gwynn earned that texas leaguer...
he’s been hitting the ball hard all day…
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions
I think that today
he has doubled his Miller Park hit total
I have an unreasonable hatred of Wes Helms.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:54 PM CDT reply actions
One that can only be born of watching him suck in a Brewers uni for a few years...
Same reason I periodically get the urge to drive down to a Mississippi Braves game so I boo Franklin Stubbs ass…
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
wow...
this is a slow game. that, plus the fact that I got the time zone adjustment screwed up, I really did not expect to get home to see this game in the 8th.
Also, cheese.
we have some dane cook standup
for you to watch while you wait to be seated
lol...
And the entire Joel Schumacher film canon is available for your viewing pleasure.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
At least Counsell didn't drop that one...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply actions
In case you missed it Jeff...
Ned apparently decided where Counsell would play today by picking names out of a hat…
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 4:07 PM CDT reply actions
yeah, i just read through the thread.
that’s…interesting.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 27, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
It's official.
I’m qualified to manage the brewers. I can pull names out of hats with the best of them.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Did all of Hart's steals this season come in the same game?
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 4:18 PM CDT reply actions
Way, way too much booing here
Same Friday night.
It’s part of the game folks. Do they boo when a man runs in motion pre-snap in football?
I do. Especially against the Vikings.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
are you trying to improve our vocabularies?
you grandiloquent s.o.b…
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 27, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
If you had any sig other than "Also, cheese.", I'd tell you to switch to
you grandiloquent s.o.b….
but “Also, cheese.” is too good to see go…
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
I’m a big fan of ‘also, cheese’ as well. It sums up my entire worldview in two words.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 27, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.
At least they can nap between at bats…
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok
time for someone to tell Bill Hall the Reds are in town.
"but I don't wanna be a Pirate!"
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Randy Marsh with the call...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions
yep
he was throwing 100 against us last year too.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 27, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Hear Hear
Gagne Owners Unite!
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
Braun, too!
Actually a win off a two-run jack by Braun would be ideal
Brewers fan lost in South Carolina.
now we don't need any more XBH's
just one decent single in the next two ABs.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 27, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Decent single?
Hell, I’d take a decidedly indecent, downright Helms-ian single.
He's extremely quick and good.
i'm not entirely sure the walk is a good thing
sets up the double play…and as I type this, Bill is saying the same thing.
ack.
Also, cheese.
True
But it’s better than a Rickie Weeks out.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
remember Gwynn and Counsell are gritty
Hard to double up, right?
Brewers fan lost in South Carolina.
It's "Walkoff Weekend"
isn’t it?
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
looks like
I got here just in time. Was visiting the new visitor’s center at Gettysburg. The North still won.
Good time for Prince's fourth homer
nice line from BA
“two hits on the day for Helms, but the barrel of the bat is still intact.”
Also, cheese.
Un-freaking-believable.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 4:52 PM CDT reply actions
Son. Of. Clung.
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 27, 2008 4:53 PM CDT reply actions
WI State Bowling tourney
has me lacking in BCB activity this weekend. I miss my boys.
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 27, 2008 4:54 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah. Fazoli's.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
They took a 3rd QB with their last pick...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
nope, that's what he said.
don’t know what BA was thinking.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 27, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey.
It’s easy to confuse a 6’5” red haired right handed Scotsman with a blond lefty under 6ft.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
This game will be pretty fun if Gregg blows the save
He’s the Marlins’ last reliever.
He's extremely quick and good.
If only
they had the foresight to carry 14 pitchers
There is a place and a time for complimenting the family of the opposing team's closer
This is not it.
He's extremely quick and good.
It's a Charlie Brown hit...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 5:11 PM CDT reply actions
with that jump
I think he could’ve took third on the first steal.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 27, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
FSN is way behind you guys...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, when you said steal third, Hart was still on first on my FSN feed...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Cool. Do flying cars exist yet?
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
If that was Fielder, it would have been a single
Kendall showing his raw strength by fisting it to the pitcher’s mound.
He's extremely quick and good.
That was the worst game of the year
Worse than any of the Gagne games.
He's extremely quick and good.
Seinfeld game summary
Woman #1(crying) : “We just watched the Brewers/Marlins game again.”
Woman #2(crying) : “It’s even better the second time.”
Elaine (sarcasticly) : “What, did they make it longer?”
ugh
we’re now 1-2-2 in home series so far this season.
by James Stanley Cocanower on Apr 27, 2008 5:19 PM CDT reply actions
Reminds me of 1982
I’m knocking Yost any more than I did Rogers. But maybe a new skipper will let this team get out of this funk and start playing like they should. I can not believe that this team let a very average pitcher handcuff them all day. For the past few years the Crew has done pretty will against “good pitchers” and made too many others that are average or less than average look like the second coming of Cy Young. My .02 and nothing more.
by BrewCrewMichael on Apr 27, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply actions
Actually,
I’m fairly certain at least one of the season previews linked to this site predicted a slow start, a Yost firing, and a mad rush to a wild card berth.
But I’m not sure 14-11 and 2 games out qualifies as a slow start. And I can’t imagine any likely to occur scenario that would result in Melvin canning Yost mid-season, even if most of us think that would be the smart move.
Then again, I’m the guy who thought that Parra would get sent to AAA instead of Bush…
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 27, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
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