Game Thread #26: Brewers (14-11) at Cubs (16-9)
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 29, 2008 5:00 PM CDT
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PrintLots of storylines here, in addition to the usual Cubs-Brewers stuff. Sheets is back, let's hope for more than 5 innings. Cameron has finally arrived, though with the way Kapler and Gwynn played, we didn't miss him very much. And, of course, we only had the one day off, so we need a lot of innings from our starters to protect our hopeless overworked bullpen (TM).
The matchup is Sheets and Jason Marquis, starting at 7:05 CT. The Cubs are Soriano-less, but with the way the rest of the lineup has been hitting, it really doesn't matter. If you want to delve deeper into the splits, here's the BR Game Preview.
I'm not sure I'm going to keep doing this for every game all season long, but at least for this series, I fired up the Project-a-Tron again. ZiPS really doesn't like Marquis this year, so it gives the Brewers a pretty big edge:
- Brewers 5.85
- Cubs 4.5
- Brewers WinExp: 57%
That's as dramatic of a difference as the Project-a-Tron has spit out all year; without taking home-field into account, it's a 62/38 split in favor of the Crew. Mr. Tron, of course, is assuming that Sheets will give us 6+, and that his arm won't fall off.
Go Brewers!
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Totally off topic
Just got the mail … from Netflix today, The Hebrew Hammer! Finally…now to find a day where I have enough time to watch both the game AND the movie…
Also, cheese.
Do you run all teams through your simlulator?
Or do you just have a special interest in the Brewers?
He's extremely quick and good.
Just spun by the other BCB...
and the cubs fans are already in form for tonight’s game. Cub fans are so obnoxious I’d root against their team even if Jesus was their leadoff man.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 29, 2008 5:38 PM CDT reply actions
now that guy has some grit and hustle
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
undoubtedly
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 29, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Jesus likes to crowd the plate
Have to let him know who’s in control.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
Not at his head.
The trouble with throwing at the omniscient is you lose your plausible deniability. “Sorry, Jesus. It just got away from me.”
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 29, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Nicely done.
Next time I’ll specify. The one I meant would have to play for the halos.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 29, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
"Brent Brewer believes real men field without gloves."
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reason to like AAA
Promotions like “Thirsty Thursday” for the Sounds with 1$ draft beverages.
Wonder how much work the local police get.
Nashville is getting healthy against Victor "I Can't Be Fixed In Five Minutes" Zambrano
He walked the first three hitters and then gave up a two-run single.
He's extremely quick and good.
I went to a
Thirsty Thursday Sounds game during Spring Break last year. It was…interesting. 7 guys, 6 f them drinking $1 beers, plus baseball, plus sitting pretty close behind home plate makes for quite an entertaining evening. That, plus the fact that it was in the 30s.
Cruised over to bleedcubbieblue
Reading their gameday thread, I can’t tell if its more like middle school or some sort of devolution like Omega Man.
There is actually a bunch of them that are offended because Gagne doesn’t keep his shirt tucked in.
Damn
MLB.TV gives me the Cubs broadcast. I hate Len and Bob
Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay
where have I been?
.191 for Rickie? I knew he wasn’t hitting a lot, but damn
Pfft
This is exactly the sort of half-assed, poorly edited and fact-checked, mean-spirited nonsense that will always keep that site to nothing more than Jeff, and a dozen of his drunk neighbors. I won’t be surprised at all if SB Nation wakes up soon, and goes with another Brewers blogger; someone that can at least attract hits.Nice job guys; you had a nice chance to market your site, and attract some new visitors, but you decide to to go low brow, and play the penis-envying little brother role.
I believe the correct response is as follows:
I’m rubber; you’re glue
Anything yo say bounces off of me and sticks to you.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
The funny thing
I don’t think I’m that obnoxious, even toward Cubs fans. (I prefer “pithy.”) Well, at the very least, I don’t think I’m insulting.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Hmmm
There is that. That’s not an insult so much as an inevitability.
(Oh well, there goes the “not insulting” thing too. How about nicely insulting?)
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Hah!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Shucks, missed out on visitors
We’re worse off for not having guys like that commenter, I’m sure.
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Drunken Neighbor
I just found this site on my own exploring so I’m neither drunk nor his neighbor. But I certainly haven’t gotten the feeling at all that Jeff is mean spirited at all, in fact I think the whole 5 questions thing every series is really nice and good, fun way to reach out and chat with other respectable fans of opposing teams.
"You have no honor!" - McClung to Fukudome
Hey, Jeff says to remind you to get some eggs on your way home from work
He's extremely quick and good.
As soon as you sober up
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhh boyyyeeeeeeeeeeee
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 29, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Cameron
I thought he was supposed to see at least four pitches per plate appearances. :)
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In play, run(s)
I like seeing that on Gameday when the Brewers are batting.
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Bill Hall up
Means Marquis still has a decent chance at the elusive three strikeouts and sac fly inning.
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Bill E Hall
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 29, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll say it
Bill Hall is the new Geoff Jenkins.
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 29, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions
Better yet
Where’s Ray King?
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
we may not know where he is...
but we could probably guess what he’s doing
Ray King could strike out Geoff Jenkins with one hand behind his back making a sandwich
He's extremely quick and good.
Actually he just became a free agent today
Refusing the outright assignment to AAA Columbus.
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they should have
thrown in a cheeseburger with that assignment. He would have taken the deal.
Good time for Prince's fifth homer
We needed more pitchers.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
not a good sign
usually when he’s wild it means he’s hurt
I think so
Didn’t throw off the mound at all. Ball four to Lee was supposed to be low and away and it was way high and in…
It is also
40 degrees out there.. Rock said his fastball has gone from 85 to 92 in the first inning.
I was going throughhyperspace, but Michio Kaku called - he wanted the title of his book back.
by just call me joe on Apr 29, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Sidd Finch?
I was going throughhyperspace, but Michio Kaku called - he wanted the title of his book back.
by just call me joe on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
how appropriate
Cubs fans talking on a cell phone. Didn’t they get that done while they were driving?
nice bunt
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
The Kendallnaut approaches
And he thirsts for a double.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
FSN Wisconsin!
HD picture, 1940s audio!
and why do the replays flash out at the most crucial point every time?
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions
That was actually a nice angle for that grounder
Probably complete luck though
He's extremely quick and good.
That pitch looked right down the middle to Rickie
His still is drawing his walks and getting plunked but he needs to connect some more.
Need to bring out Stetter
for a pep talk
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
He almost got the double play, too.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I think
Rickie just likes contact
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 29, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions
Marquis
has a better avg than Rickie!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
rub some dirt on it....that was a brush by
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
5 sounds about right at his current pace
unless he gets some quick innings
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
44 pitches
that’s a lot of pitches on a cold night your first game back
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
I don't think I ever wondered.
I don’t think that jokes about Ben Sheets being brittle are exactly out on a limb, though.
Well
They used the last of their mithril crafting Kerry Wood
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
Tropic of Cancer
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
I'm too lazy
but assume I posted the Gimli picture here.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I pulled that
right out of the Sarchasm of Doom.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
yep
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 29, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm forced to listen on WGN radio
and this gives me the wonderful opportunity to hear Ron Santo wax rhapsodic.
Joy!
Crawford's injury
Do you think he blogs?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
This could be
The Night They Tore Ol’ Dixie’s Graph Down
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Normally he hides his arm...
...by not having the range to make it over to that part of the infield.
That was weird
It seemed like it hung up there a long time, and Fukudome was near it. I thought maybe he lost it.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Don't switch a blade
on a guy in shades.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
Gotta love a standup triple
Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay
*Steals home
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
Bill E Hall!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I hate fantasy baseball.
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 29, 2008 8:15 PM CDT reply actions
Hall & Hart on my bench tonight.
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 29, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Because you live in Lake County or because you have Cubs on your fantasy team?
He's extremely quick and good.
What did you do?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
You start Cueto too?
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
Ouch.
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 29, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear you
Hart on the Bench for me.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 29, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
i would be willing to hit for sheets...couldn't do much worse
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
Sheets
us definitely off in the command category tonight.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
Can't turn the DP
Is fukudome that fast?
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Uecker thinks
he’s having problems with his grip. That’s why he’s going to his sweaty head between every pitch…
I swear he always does that.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 29, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Cards are pounding
the Reds 7-0 in the 3rd.
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
this looks like the brewers of old...bad defense...good offense
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
3 errors in the last two games
McClung must have shown Jeff’s article to the team and they got a little big headed.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
It would be helpful if he just
threw strikes
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Anyone wonder
if Bush is sitting in Nashville grinning a small bit right now?
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
He shouldn't be
Sheets is pitching just as well as him minus any semblance of proper velocity or control.
He's extremely quick and good.
Good Pitch by Sheets on that sac fly
Pie just went down and got it
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
72 pitches already
And top of the order for the Cubs next inning. You have to think about going to the pen soon with everyone rested.
Could be worse...
I sure wish I felt confident in our bullpen when the temperature was outside of the 73-77 degree range.
Steve
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com
OK, so now what
do they need in the top half? C’mon, you’re hot!!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
That was nice
of the Crew to keep it short so Benny didn’t get cold in the dugout.
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Heart of the order here
Need to get Marquis here. Sheets looks like he has at least one more inning left.
Fielder has hit it on the screws all three times
by dixieflatline on Apr 29, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Also he has been going the other way against that shift recently
by dixieflatline on Apr 29, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Brewers and shifts
From looking at your blog, it seems you like zone ratings. You should be aware that the Brewers probably use more shifts than probably any other team, which messes up their ZR, since as you noted, no one keeps track of where the fielders are standing.
He's extremely quick and good.
I've heard that.
Right now the project is to simply see what the “standard” shift seems to be for various base/out states. At some point I’ll see about looking at the Brewers in particular and see how that looks.
As far as shifts confounding ZR… maybe, but you’d think you’d see a corresponding boost to OOZ plays, which would make up for it when you converted to plays/runs.
There is a corresponding boost to OOZ plays
Check out the discussion on the “Defense Through 25 Games” article about halfway down the main page.
He's extremely quick and good.
Cubs whining again
I have watched several of their games and they whine to the umps a lot.
bill hall has impressive plate discipline tonight
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
I think I might
How much longer is he really going to pitch? We could do a WE study on it and check.
by dixieflatline on Apr 29, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
With everyone rested I really want ned to go with the good relievers tonight
It isn’t anywhere close to a must win but it sure would be a nice one to win.
ha
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 29, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Now they are talking up the Cubs pitchers hitting
Like it is going to win the cubs the division. Maybe they haven’t seen YoGa hit.
Slow starter?
One wonders how much worse he had to pitch in his first half dozen games to be considered a fast starter.
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Yeah
I meant he pitched well in his first half dozen games. I’m tired…
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don't get me wrong
I like him but a couple of those games weren’t good.
The “slow starter” comment isn’t mine.
Yeah.
Maybe he’s finally learning that lesson.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 29, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Hall's having a tough night in the field.
I thin Counsell gave him the yips.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 29, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions
maybe that's why he was fired by the dbacks
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Is Sheets going for the NL record
for most walks in a game? seven so far
by heybatterbatter on Apr 29, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions
Well
I think he made a great effort. What a gamer!
by heybatterbatter on Apr 29, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Well he gutted that one out
But we are going to need him for the rest of the year. If his command doesn’t improve he is going to get worked over.
by dixieflatline on Apr 29, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he wil bounce back
I’ve never thought of Ben as having control issues. Here’s to hoping it is just a byproduct of not pitching in 11 days.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 29, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Big Ben
Definitely felt risky there letting him battle through the walks, but he just earned some respect points.
Who here thinks it was a good idea for
Sheets to throw 108 pitches tonight? Particularly with 45 minute gap between innings 2 and 3. Sure hope we don’t here about more shoulder soreness before next start.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 29, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions
I doubt we would even if it existed
Repeat after me: “There is no Sheets.”
He's extremely quick and good.
There ya go Rickie...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 29, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions
Slide the pieces the right way and get a picture!
Bench->2B, 2B->LF, LF—>CF
I thought the Brewers were the team that shuffled guys around on defense.
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Oh my god...
that’s just lovely. :)
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 29, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd make that my sig, but I'm already afraid I'm going to hell for talking about throwing at Jesus earlier...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 29, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
If you’re already doomed, one more time can’t hurt…
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"Get it? Swiss Amy Knife."
No. Explain it three more times please.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 29, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions
It's only the 6th... :)
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 29, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
A true gamer
Uses a swiss army knife in lieu of lasik, huh?
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Does Trenni know?
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
High spike there from Braun...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 29, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply actions
Thankfully
Jonny Gomes isn’t in right field.
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You are on tonight Jay...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 29, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn, Gameday is stuck on Cameron
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
we need a new thread...getting laggy
but man, the guy isn’t throwing strikes and our two best hitters swing at the first pitch
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It appears to be genetic with Braun.
Even when he tries to be patient, as he did in his first at bat tonight, he looked extremely uncomfortable…
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 29, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
is that your wife and son in that picture ted?
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
if so,
that’s cute. if not, it’s creepy :)
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
Yep. That's them.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 29, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
On that theme
Only one walk today and that was intentional. 12 hits are great but a few more walks and this one would be over.
by dixieflatline on Apr 29, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
just got home
and happy to see the Crew ahead, but I was troubled to see that Sheets gave up 4 and walked 7 in 5 innings. Did it look like he was pitching hurt, i.e., is this more serious than were let on?
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