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Tonight at 7:05 CT, it's Jeff Suppan vs. Ryan Dempster.  Both starters have overperformed so far, and both starters are going to face a good offense tonight.

Here's the BR Game Preview.

Project-a-tron sees this as a very even matchup:

  • Brewers: 5.5
  • Cubs: 5.3
  • Brewers WinExp: 47.5%  (home field swings it back in the Cubs favor)

Go Brewers!

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keep mo going!

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Apr 30, 2008 5:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Win Probability

Brewers WinExp…
My Simulator: 46.56
Vegas: 41.67%
vr, Xeifrank

by Xeifrank on Apr 30, 2008 6:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fascinating

Thank you…

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Apr 30, 2008 6:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tom Hallion

Wasn’t he the umpire who took over for Crawford behind home plate last night? He’s back there again.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 7:00 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nauert?

I couldn’t remember if it was Paul Nauert or Hallion.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 7:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lineup

good to see the same lineup 2 nights in a row. I guess even Ned knows how to ride the hot lineup

Good time for Prince's fifth homer

by molitorfan on Apr 30, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That glove rotation move

is strange and I would think distracting.

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 30, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BA said <40,000 were at the game last night

It wasn’t sold out?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

9 pitches for Dempster

Lovely.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Silver Lining

Not striking out…yet

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 30, 2008 7:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Derek Lee

crushes brewers pitching

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 30, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Soup's xFIP is 4.43

Dempsters is 4.15

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh great

Another one Rickie almost got.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm completely done with Weeks

Sorry folks, I think this is all we’re gonna get.

by Lake County on Apr 30, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he was running

the opposite way to the base. Not the easiest play

Good time for Prince's fifth homer

by molitorfan on Apr 30, 2008 7:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's true

But he keeps getting to balls and failing to even knock them down.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 7:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not just one thing

It’s all aspects of his game. I’m not seeing any consistent development.

by Lake County on Apr 30, 2008 7:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He was running to second

but that is the wrong way to make the play. As the boys on ESPN pointed out his footwork was incorrect on the play. Basic stuff for a guy in the majors.

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Apr 30, 2008 8:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He went straight

to the bag to cover the running going. “straight” in the sense in that hge stepped directly towards 2B.

I am sure he has been taught to play the ball first. With a runner going and having to cover the bag a 2nd baseman should take his first steps towards the batter so that in case the ball is put in play (like here) he is moving to the ball and still in position to make the play. If the ball is not put in play he then slides to his right to cover the bag for the throw from Kendall. Looking from above the path to second would be in the shape of an “L” not a straight line.

If the ball is put in play to him, with the correct footwork as noted above, he is moving towards the ball and makes the play, probably a DP in this case.

His mistake was taking a series of steps directly towards the bag, leaving a hole and being unprepared to play the ball. You teach to play the ball first then cover the bag.

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Apr 30, 2008 8:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They should have had Lee at second

Damn. Theriot somehow failed to score from second on a double.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Neat

Soup looks sharp tonight

Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 30, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wtf

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Apr 30, 2008 7:27 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The first out is always the hardest

Uh…right?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least he had a good reach

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Apr 30, 2008 7:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can we use a mulligan?

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Apr 30, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmmmm... 25 pitches per out

He should be gone by the second.

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Weather

I guess the temperature being 10-15 degrees warmer really started the Cubs’ bats

Good time for Prince's fifth homer

by molitorfan on Apr 30, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On the bright side

Huntsville just took a 2-0 lead on Jacob McGee.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Huntsville

is having Biscuits for dinner. Much better than soup.

Good time for Prince's fifth homer

by molitorfan on Apr 30, 2008 7:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Obligatory shot of Mark Cuban

I couldn’t handle him in MP with Cubroaches.

by Lake County on Apr 30, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dempster

Should be taking notes…this is how you are supposed to pitch.

by UWbrewball on Apr 30, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh awesome

I think I’ll take a nap.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WHYDFML?

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 7:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DTMFA?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 7:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ouch

Did somebody forget to warm up Soup?

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Apr 30, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Sheets

forgot to give back the grit that Soup borrowed him last night.

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 30, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ERA 162.00

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who says

the economy is bad?

Good time for Prince's fifth homer

by molitorfan on Apr 30, 2008 7:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cuts it in half with one pitch!

What a master!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 7:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Welp

Time for Suppan to bite the bullet & put in a long outing in a blowout a la Greg Maddux.

Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 30, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

at this point Yost needs to tell him this is his game and he needs to eat some of these innings…and hopefully limit any more damage.

Who knows, maybe last night was the awakening party for the offense.

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 30, 2008 7:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yost

Better not bring in Seth

Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 30, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

might as well...couldn't be worse right now

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Apr 30, 2008 7:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i want to puke

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Apr 30, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which way offense - quick poll

Everyone tries to hit a 5-run solo HR, or they chip away?

by Lake County on Apr 30, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is the type of game

Hall loves hitting home runs in.

Good time for Prince's fifth homer

by molitorfan on Apr 30, 2008 7:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

chip away

problem is they gotta hit the Dempster. Start bunting like crazy.

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 7:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Start right here with a Prince bunt for a hit

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 30, 2008 7:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ooooh

Fielder leads the league in sac flies. Lovely.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This would be fun

Get a couple runners on and have Suppan come up to bat and let the talk of Yostings begin.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Could be a funny series

Blowout loss today, close win tomorrow maybe?

Outscored in the series, but win it?

Clutching for anything at this point.

by Lake County on Apr 30, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

get a couple runs back here

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Apr 30, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This game...

...could be our reverse Cordero game. At least I can hope.

by UWbrewball on Apr 30, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sometimes

the question is how often

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Turnbow

How many batters will he walk in his inevitable appearance tonight?

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ll put the Over/Under at 1.5.

Place your bets, gentlemen.

Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 30, 2008 7:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it depends

if it’s still a blowout then it’s none

If the Crew has crept back into it, then 2 or 3

by sheeter on Apr 30, 2008 7:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

if it doesn’t matter he’ll be fine

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Apr 30, 2008 7:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hope?

Maybe this’ll turn out close like the game in which Suppan was shelled last year.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That era is dropping like a rock

Dropped in molasses.

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Apr 30, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Glass half full

It would be a devastating loss for our IL friends if the Crew came back.

by Lake County on Apr 30, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's true

I say don’t burn out the bullpen. Either Suppan gets it together enough or go with the Klingon for about 6 innings and see what happens. Isn’t that why he is in there? Why is he in there?

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 7:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

Play for the series. Already won 1, so the worst case is losing 1 game only in the standings.

Road head to head, sweep is the major avoidance in a case like this.

by Lake County on Apr 30, 2008 7:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what about road head?

Good time for Prince's fifth homer

by molitorfan on Apr 30, 2008 8:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Suppan

loves to start off the count 3-0. That way, he tricks the batter into taking a strike.

by UWbrewball on Apr 30, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on Braun

make it a ballgame.

Good time for Prince's fifth homer

by molitorfan on Apr 30, 2008 8:05 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on braun!

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Apr 30, 2008 8:05 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mike Cameron

Pads the “going from first to third on a single” stats.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 8:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was done having kids

But now I have to have one and name him/her Cameron

by Lake County on Apr 30, 2008 8:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Read my signature

Good time for Prince's fifth homer

by molitorfan on Apr 30, 2008 8:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm a fan of it

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Apr 30, 2008 8:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now's the time for the five run homer

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Apr 30, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wild pitch please

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Apr 30, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

crap

Good time for Prince's fifth homer

by molitorfan on Apr 30, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what was that?

No, seriously. FSN decided to show Soup the whole play

by sheeter on Apr 30, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fukudome

Gaack – wouldn’t the ball have japanese on it, rather than english?

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by nuclearbrewer on Apr 30, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's official

I hate Suppan

(not for real – guy’s awesome with the charities)

by Lake County on Apr 30, 2008 8:17 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hah hah

Ned to Lloyd: “Just play at the wall- that’s where they’re all going…”

by sheeter on Apr 30, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well.

I go out to run errands for an hour and come back to discover this suckiness. Thought we might get another good start from Suppan before things went south, since it’s still April and all.

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His fairy tale only lasts till sunset...

not midnight.

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 30, 2008 8:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

any chance we can swap

Bush’s stats with Suppan’s?

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 30, 2008 8:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bush is down in Nashville thinking

hell, I could give up 7 runs in 3 innings.

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 8:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't resist

He could tend bar and cook in his LA restaurant.

Or face the Mets in the playoffs again.

by Lake County on Apr 30, 2008 8:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if only it were so

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 8:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can't we just put him on ice

until someone else gets the crew to the p-offs?

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 30, 2008 8:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah.

We just need to clone Sheets and Gallardo.

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 8:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Overbay Trade

Just cuz I’m pissed:

Gross – TB
Bush – #6, AAAA
Jackson – ahem…

by Lake County on Apr 30, 2008 8:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey look - another base runner...

At least more air time for EA isn’t bad.

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by nuclearbrewer on Apr 30, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shouse up?

Ned you’re an idiot.

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Using a guy like Shouse allows Ned to pinch-hit for the pitcher’s spot next inning and then use a long reliever without taking out any of the other starters. Powell’s theory, anyway.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 8:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

but if you ask me he should have pulled him before the inning started. He waited too long.

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 8:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a six-run deficit

You’re very unlikely to come back anyway, so why use more relievers than you have to?

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 8:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

you used Shouse. You could have used McClung and Turnbow. They seem to be reviled by a lot of fans and they don’t get used otherwise, so it seems to me that would be better than this.

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 8:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oops

At least Hall booting it keeps the double play in order, something a Braun throw-away wouldn’t have

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by nuclearbrewer on Apr 30, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ESPN

Glad the whole country is watching this game.

Good time for Prince's fifth homer

by molitorfan on Apr 30, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh that's right

Nice. Cuban’s going to have to buy high for sure now.

by Lake County on Apr 30, 2008 8:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah, exactly

This is the first Brewers game I’ve gotten to watch all season out here in Virginia. Great….

by balldeagle on Apr 30, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

same here

I’m in Alexandria…

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Apr 30, 2008 8:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I say we let Suppan throw his arm off.

No sense running through the whole pen on what appears to be a lost cause.

Barring a fairly dramatic comeback in the next inning or so, I’d put the odds of T-Bow getting some work in at about 90% tonight.

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LaPorta just hit a three-run bomb

So there’s that.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

woohoo!

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 8:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We are running over

to Montgomery this weekend to see Huntsville play the Biscuits! Ssould be a blast.

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Apr 30, 2008 8:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TSSpeed Camp, about your avatar...

I got nothing against it, and I know you’re proud of your family. But what if you’re tempted to say something not-so-nice? Then everybody looks at your wife. There are a lot of whackos out there ya know (just check out BleedCubbieBlue…)

by balldeagle on Apr 30, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah.

That thought occured to me last night. I’m going to lose it sometime tonight. Though I think I’m generally pretty well behaved on the threads (ecept for the not-so-funny jokes).

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 8:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, there's no time like the present.

It’s not like the game is any fun to watch.

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 8:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shouse

So much for that preventing inherited runners from scoring thing.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No chance.

Barring a fist-fight with a player or something along those lines. Melvin loves the guy.

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 8:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If he hasn't been fired yet

It won’t be because of one bad start by Jeff Suppan or using Shouse as a mop-up guy.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 8:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe

if they don’t make the playoffs – wow that’s depressing

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 8:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ouch

Why was Shouse facing a righty?

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Apr 30, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unh

I turn around for two seconds and CHI goes up by 3 more?

Is their defense on ball tonight, or are we just sucking?

by kirbir on Apr 30, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks for understanding

I don’t want to tell you the reason why I had to say something. I’ve got experience with whackos attacking my family.

by balldeagle on Apr 30, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oops

that was supposed to be in my reply thread to Speed Camp..

by balldeagle on Apr 30, 2008 8:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So

after 2 high scoring games so far this series, what are the odds Gallardo can shut down the Cubs offense tomorrow?

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 30, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uecker insight

“Couple a grand slammers and we’re right back in this thing…”

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by Jordan M on Apr 30, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ueck rocks.

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 8:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There. How's that?

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for me the avatars are so tiny

I couldn’t tell anything about yours or most anyone elses

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 8:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1st pitch again for Prince

I’m gonna stop watching any more

by balldeagle on Apr 30, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, just got in -

how’s the game go – ohhhhhhh what the fuck!?

by 400metres on Apr 30, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 9:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Game's not over

If last night is any indicator, no lead is completely safe in this series. And if any bullpen is as likely to bleed away 12 runs as the Brewers’, it’s the Cubs’.

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Apr 30, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd be happy if they put up enough runs to make the Cubs use a few guys out of their pen again...

A comeback would be great, but setting up tomorrow is a more realistic goal…

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 9:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good game by braun so far

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Apr 30, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too bad he's out of the game now

Ned sending in the cavalry with the white flag (Rivera at 1B, Gwynn in LF).

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 9:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That flag's not white

It’s brown from all the grit covering it!

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Apr 30, 2008 9:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really think that's crap.

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 9:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

definitely a shitastic move -

9 runs by the Crew’s starters is not out of the question, unlikely, but not out of the question

by 400metres on Apr 30, 2008 9:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh wow...there goes the lineup...

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Apr 30, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Should I be as mad at Ned as I am?

Or is the slim chance of injury justification for essentially giving up in the 4th inning?

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BA is giving his "Brief History of Wrigley Field" speech to fill time

and distract viewers from the fact that we’re playing a split squad game at this point…

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Frack

What a way to hit into a double play…

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Apr 30, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what a shame

just got home from work, and to think I missed all of that.

blech.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 30, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Hall is hurting

why was he not taken out

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 30, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tommy John surgery

Do pitchers lose velocity when they have it? I didn’t know McClung had it.

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mixed results

some pitchers actually gain velocity, and there was a span a few years back when there were rumors (at the very least) of kids getting it in high school / early college for the perceived benefits.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 30, 2008 9:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also, cheese

I think you might appreciate this signature…

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by Jordan M on Apr 30, 2008 9:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh

Very nice :)

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden

by kirbir on Apr 30, 2008 9:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ha!

were you the one who originally said “also, cheese” in a post? I can’t remember now.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 30, 2008 9:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, but I can't take credit

It was a Deadspin comment, after someone wrote that the Brewers reeked of starting slow and finishing strong. Someone added, “Also, Cheese”.

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by Jordan M on Apr 30, 2008 9:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gwynn

I like the kid, but if anyone thinks he’s more than AAAA, let’s talk about bridges.

by Lake County on Apr 30, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe not 4 A

But 4th OF

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by Jordan M on Apr 30, 2008 9:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More fun down on the farm

Gamel hit his fifth (!) triple and LaPorta doubled him in. Go go Gadget slugging percentage!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, that's nice

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by Jordan M on Apr 30, 2008 9:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so should they go to AAA

or stay there? What is the thinking behind all that?

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 9:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Many teams use AAA as a holding tank for possible roster fodder

But judging by precedent set with Fielder, Weeks, Hardy & Braun, most guys are going to at least catch a couple hundred ABs in Nashville.

LaPorta and Gillespie, being “old”, have the best chance of getting jumped directing from Huntsville to Milwaukee, if Corey Hart or Ryan Braun goes down for a significant amount of time and the team doesn’t want to use a guy like Brendan Katin.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 9:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

McClung for....
President Starting Rotation 2008!

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 30, 2008 9:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I retract my endorsment

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 30, 2008 9:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

McClung

With a typical McClungian effort tonight.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

let him ride

its better than not knowing. He’s been badass a couple times.

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 9:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

And a whole bunch of mediocre overall.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 9:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looking at what a guy's done in his career?

No, not at all. How silly of me.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 9:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't you think current performance is what counts?

Its not like he has ever lacked in ability. Did you want to do a “projection” of the future?

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 9:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't get what you mean

Are you saying that a player’s past stats are completely irrelevant if they have a good month?

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 9:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"completely" and a "good month"

tell me you aren’t really looking for an answer.

But like I said – extremely able and performing well are relevant.

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 9:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Extremely able?

I guess I don’t see how he’s “extremely able.” That’s just the potential that’s had everyone drooling over him pitching poorly in his MLB career.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 9:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pitching poorly and pitching well aren't the same thing

I sure don’t want to go back and forth about the definitions of ability, performance or potential, especially when this is probably more about him taking up a roster spot that you want for Dave Bush.

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 9:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Huh?

”...this is probably more about him taking up a roster spot that you want for Dave Bush.”

Aren’t you the guy who bitches about people putting words in your mouth? If you think Seth McClung has been a quality MLB pitcher in his career, that’s fine for you, but it’s just one more example of why I have trouble taking a lot of your opinions on players seriously.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 9:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, is it true?

Do you want Dave Bush back up?

And like I said… and said, if he’s a quality pitcher now, that’s what’s relevant.

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 10:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Do you want Dave Bush back up?"

Does it matter?

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 10:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excuse me for not understanding why.

I also don’t get why McClung is a quality pitcher now.

Is it because he had a couple scoreless outings in a row? That’s the same sort of cherry-picking crap that leads to saying Eric Munson is a streaky hitter because he went 12-20 in six games once in his major league career.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 10:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is there some reason you're on this crusade?

Seriously, pick another guy to go against the crowd on, already.

I don’t care if they call up Bush to replace McClung or not. There’s a reason guys like McClung or Bush are at the back of the bullpen: they’re not very good.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 10:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

I tried to talk to you about it, but you don’t want to. The crusade is yours not mine. I’m shocked you say Bush isn’t very good. What about his K/9 and BB/9 over his career of course, we don’t want to isolate this year with some cherry picking crap.

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 10:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know...

Just because someone has a good game or even a couple doesn’t mean that they’re great players.

Their long-run stats are gonna give more of a hint at what type of player they are, not one game or even one year.

I don’t see why this being an issue you you Pete.

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden

by kirbir on Apr 30, 2008 10:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"great player" - your words not mine

How about 3? Seven? A year? How does it work? And isn’t it more important to win games this year?

by ol Pete on Apr 30, 2008 10:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's why that philosophy can be wrong

Just one example, but take a look at what this guy did in 2006. He was a good hitter then. But he regressed back to the type of production he usually had

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by Jordan M on Apr 30, 2008 10:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shelton

if he gets called up to play in Arlington in August, the park + weather may just give him the conditions to slug 1200 again!

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 30, 2008 10:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too bad Fukudome didn't hit a homer

To make that a total 3TO inning.

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by TheJay on Apr 30, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's complete

I love Weeks. Trade him.

by Lake County on Apr 30, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know, I don't want to jinx it...

... but I’m tempted to give the folks over at the other BCB credit for the fact that no one has showed up over here to troll thus far. Last year they would have been over here in the first inning of a game like this.

As I said, i’d like to give them credit for that.

But I’m not sure I can, since so many of them regard the Brewers as beside the point this year with the Cardinals posing the real threat. If we’re not a real rival, there’s no need to gloat, I guess.

Weeks… not to nitpick, but why isn’t he on thierd on that play? He coasted into 2nd…

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I, for one, see you guys as a much bigger threat than St. Louis...

(just wanted to point that out)

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by northsider on Apr 30, 2008 9:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think most Cubs fans recognize the Brewers as the biggest threat...

...in the division, but still think of the Cardinals as the biggest rivals, if that makes sense.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Apr 30, 2008 10:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True.

Like the Packers, Vikings and Bears in football… the Vikings biggest rival is the Packers, but the Packers biggest rival is the Bears….

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 10:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It does.

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 10:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mat Gamel adds a homer

Fuck the Brewers, I’m moving to Huntsville.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you like engineers

Huntsville is awesome.

Read any book (I have plenty to recommend) on Apollo, Gemini, Mercury, etc…Huntsville is right there.

by Lake County on Apr 30, 2008 9:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bk hates engineers

rough childhood.

I’ll take recommendations…

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 30, 2008 9:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So will I... if you've got them...

"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 30, 2008 9:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Personally, I think we got hosed on that one! - Harry Doyle

by reverse24 on May 1, 2008 10:16 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And they play hockey

What’s up with that?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 9:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it depends strongly on how well he plays defense this year

If he is a legitimate third baseman, Bill Hall isn’t gonna stand in his way. If he’s just another homeless bat, well, lots of other teams have more room for a guy like that, and some of those teams have pitching prospects.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Apr 30, 2008 9:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs