Game Thread #4: Giants (1-2) at Brewers (2-1)
It's the home opener, and Carlos Villanueva gets the ball. Pitching for the Giants is Jonathan Sanchez, who has a 7.27 ERA in 8 career starts. (He's young though--I'm not throwing those numbers out there to suggest he's the second coming of Wayne Franklin.)
For those of you who want the pennant race to start now, you might be interested to know that the Cubs are hosting the Astros, sending Rich Hill to the mound against a bunch of guys who should probably be playing at Round Rock. We're not the only NL Central contender with an easy (on paper, anyway) matchup this weekend.
Before the game, during the game, after the game, whatever, make sure to check out everything on the site: in the last 24 hours alone, we've got my arguments in favor of Ned, five questions with a Giants blogger, the first Minor League Notes of the year, and of course, this morning's Frosty Mug. Drink up, but please, drink responsibly.
(Oh hell, it's the home opener. Who's going to drink responsibly?)
Go Brewers!
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Tom H on Gwynn's injury
it doesn't look too good:
Oh, and by the way, the news doesn't sound that great on Tony Gwynn's ailing hamstring. He told us he wouldn't be able to play today even if a right-hander was pitching for the Giants, and said he wouldn't be available tomorrow, either, unless he has marked improvement.
You have to wonder if this might turn into a DL situation.
Laynce...get yer jockstrap packed and be ready to go!
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Apr 4, 2008 12:35 PM CDT
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If Gwynn goes to the DL
Would your prefer them to call up Nix or try trading for a Center Fielder/4 OF?
by drezdn on
Apr 4, 2008 12:40 PM CDT
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I'm guessing it wouldn't matter
I don't think they'd make a trade, because Kapler is here, and both Gross and Hart can play center, if not well. (Actually, we have another CF on the roster in Bill Hall, but that's not going to happen.)
Given that we only have 22 games to go before getting Cameron back, a waiver claim / PTBNL sort of trade is all that would make any sense. And I'm not sure you could get a guy better than Nix.
But really, I don't think it matters. We're just fine with a 23 or 24-man roster, given the versatility on the bench. It appears that Dillon and Gross are just pinch-hitters, and we've got backups covered without them.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Apr 4, 2008 12:45 PM CDT
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Easy
1. Move Corey Hart to center.
2. Sign Barry Bonds to play right for a few weeks. What else does he have to do?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on
Apr 4, 2008 12:50 PM CDT
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hahaha
brilliant! I can't believe I didn't think of that myself.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Apr 4, 2008 12:50 PM CDT
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Actually he has a couple of appointments
with the UPS guy back at the house. Doesn't want to miss those deliveries!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on
Apr 4, 2008 12:51 PM CDT
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I'm willing to bet
he sign Roger Clemens' name anyway.
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by roguejim on
Apr 4, 2008 12:52 PM CDT
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If we did that
I'm sure he could fit into Mench's old caps.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:11 PM CDT
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I really don't like Gross
But that's the obvious answer here.
by Marty McSuperFly on
Apr 4, 2008 12:44 PM CDT
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I think
Kapler is somehow responsible for this injury.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
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Apr 4, 2008 12:50 PM CDT
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that's why he's been so quiet in the clubhouse
he's been plotting.
I wonder if anything untoward happened to the hitting coach where he was managing last year.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Apr 4, 2008 12:51 PM CDT
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The first time
we get Yosted!, I'm calling for Kapler to take over the reins.
Between Kapler and Simmons, Ned had better watch his back.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on
Apr 4, 2008 12:53 PM CDT
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Move Corey
Put Hart in Center and move him up in the order.
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on
Apr 4, 2008 12:46 PM CDT
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If the timing were slightly better...
I bet we'd be looking at Gwynn going on the DL when Gallardo was activated, with Bush or Parra sliding to the pen as an extra arm. I think Ned is happy with Kapler/Gross as the extra OFers.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on
Apr 4, 2008 12:48 PM CDT
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Short of being there
Dual wide screens work pretty well at work. Pretend work spreadsheet on one screen and a split of BCB and Gameday on the other. Just hope the boss doesn't realize he bought me that second widescreen for baseball!! ;-o
Yesterday was almost overload with WGN on the tube on the back credenza!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on
Apr 4, 2008 12:50 PM CDT
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Yeesh
St. Louis and Pittsburgh are tied for first in our division.
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by roguejim on
Apr 4, 2008 12:51 PM CDT
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The Pirates don't get to play us for a while
so their winning days are over.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Apr 4, 2008 12:52 PM CDT
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And that is after
Playing pretty good teams in Colorado and Atlanta.
by Saltire on
Apr 4, 2008 1:03 PM CDT
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Did Gagne just swear at the camera?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Apr 4, 2008 12:53 PM CDT
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Awesome!
Kapler was just introduced as Gabe Kaplan.
Welcome back, Kotter.
by Marty McSuperFly on
Apr 4, 2008 12:55 PM CDT
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So who is Horshack?
Counsell???
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on
Apr 4, 2008 12:56 PM CDT
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that was the galblam
funniest post of the 500 plus- including badgers horshack/counsell comment- it was fun to read in archive on the west coast! Thanks everyone!
"Just the kiss of the Hops"
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Apr 5, 2008 3:58 AM CDT
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JJ Hardy
Wasn't Hardy supposed to be in the 2 spot against lefties?
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Apr 4, 2008 12:55 PM CDT
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Giants' lineup
- D. Roberts lf
- E. Velez 2b
- R. Winn rf
- B. Molina c
- A. Rowand cf
- J. Castillo 3b
- R. Aurilia 1b
- B. Bocock ss
- J. Sanchez p
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Apr 4, 2008 1:02 PM CDT
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*waves from the Giants board*
...We know...
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Explain Bocock
The highest he got was High-A last year, where he hit a scalding .220/.293/.328. No, that is not a misprint. How the hell did this guy get a Major League job?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Apr 4, 2008 1:08 PM CDT
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Omar Vizquel
The only guys standing between him and a big league spot were Kevin Frandsen (out for 2008) and Omar Vizquel, who is also hurt.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:11 PM CDT
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Giants Org
Don't they have some decent pitching prospects they could trade for at least a 4A type SS?
by drezdn on
Apr 4, 2008 1:12 PM CDT
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You'd think a guy like Nunez
would end up there.
by ol Pete on
Apr 4, 2008 1:13 PM CDT
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Maybe
There are some things event the Giants aren't willing to do.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:15 PM CDT
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haha
well, at least with abraham nunez, you can always pretend it's the *other* abraham nunez.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Apr 4, 2008 1:16 PM CDT
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Yea..
But it's only a couple of weeks. Once Vizquel gets back Bocock will go down to the minors and Jose Castillo will be his backup.
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right
and it isn't like these couple of weeks are going to make or break the giants playoff chances.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
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That's what I meant
I know about Frandsen, but it seems ridiculous that the Giants couldn't put a trade together for someone who isn't a complete embarrassment. I mean, I thought it was bad when the Brewers had to use Chris Barnwell as a bench player a few years ago, and Bocock is much worse.
He's extremely quick and good.
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Why?
Why trade someone who could be good in the future when the Giants are good for someone who will play short for a couple weeks and then sit on the bench then leave after a few years? Just doesn't make sense for the Giants position.
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It's not unsound strategy
I'm just surprised Sabean was willing to do it. I mean, Bocock as a starting Major Leaguer is a complete joke, and you guys seem to have taken the Pirates' strategy in the past of signing guys who will help you be not entirely embarrassing. The Randy Winns and Reggie Sanders of the world.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Apr 4, 2008 1:19 PM CDT
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Kevin Frandsen..
Not even an option. Last year he filled in a bit at SS and was terrible. This spring he was tried at short a bit but after 4 or 5 games was told, "you aren't playing short anymore."
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Other guys who made appearances in ST at short were Ivan Ochoa and Justin Leone (AAA fodder for the last couple of seasons) and Manny Burriss, who has a better future with the team than Bocock. Burriss plays a bit of second base too, so in theory he would be the better fit to fill in at MI.
Still, the team likes Bocock's defense and wanted Burriss at AAA, so whatever.
I introduced myself on the 5 Q with Grant thread. So hi. :)
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Vizquel is down for a few weeks..
And apparently Ivan Ochoa was never in the Giants eyes for some reason after a breakout .296/.337/.430 season in AAA. Granted he's never hit anything NEAR that in the minors, but still it was in AAA. The Giants basically had to choose between Bocock and Burris. Bocock was in Low-A and hit ok, and was in High-A and hit poorly. Burris was in High-A and hit poorly and was in Low-A and hit ok. I think after that it was just potential. Burris has the potential to become an above average leadoff hitter. Bocock has the potential to become a bench guy with great defense at 2B, 3B, and SS. That's about it, his hitting is really terrible.
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OBP / SLG for those 9 spots, per ZiPS
339 / 372
315 / 398
338 / 429
300 / 403
340 / 429
307 / 382
314 / 398
248 / 268
125 / 150
( I made up the last one based on eyeballing 07 giants pitcher stats)
Also, cheese.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:12 PM CDT
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So is that the worst clean up hitter this century?
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Apr 4, 2008 1:17 PM CDT
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that sounds like a job for thejay!
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Apr 4, 2008 1:20 PM CDT
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Wow.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on
Apr 4, 2008 1:12 PM CDT
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Bengie Molina needs to eat some fiber
He's moving pretty slowly.
He's extremely quick and good.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:16 PM CDT
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would he beat Estrada
In a race to 1st base?
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Apr 4, 2008 1:17 PM CDT
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I honestly don't think so
He's extremely quick and good.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:19 PM CDT
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Sounds like a good idea for a skills competition at the allstar break...
Estrada v. Molina in a race to first.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on
Apr 4, 2008 1:21 PM CDT
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we'll never find out
no one has the patience to wait long enough to see who would win.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Apr 4, 2008 1:20 PM CDT
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I've just turned on MLB.TV Premium 1.2 for the first time
It's awesome. No bumps or breaks of the regular quality. I highly recommend it.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:18 PM CDT
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ooh, and it worked!
that already sounds better than what I got yesterday.
Also, cheese.
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alright, lineup analysis complete
today's Giants lineup is projected to score 3.55 runs. Probably a little more, because the lineup analysis doesn't take into account pinch hitters.
That's 575 runs over the course of the season, which is almost 100 worse than the worst offense in the NL last year.
And for what it's worth, they could get an extra 0.12 runs or so if they switched the lineup to:
Roberts
Rowand
Velez
Aurilia
Winn
Molina
Castillo
Pitcher
Bocock
Also, cheese.
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with the Giants lineup and facing two lefthanders...
I am going to be a bit disappointed if we don't sweep this series. I know sweeping is hard but man everything is setting up perfectly this series.
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That's what I was thinking
I was going to post it but figured I'd get lectured. You are a braver man than me.
He's extremely quick and good.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:21 PM CDT
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or a dumber....
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Sanchez
I was just thinking, he doesn't look like he has a good move to first for a lefty.
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Bengie Molina
looks like Tony the Tiger behind the plate
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I'm trying to remember
is that gasoline or cereal?
by ol Pete on
Apr 4, 2008 1:24 PM CDT
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Cereal, but the former is closer to its flavor.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:25 PM CDT
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You've just got to add more sugar.
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Team record
One away from the ML record
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Apr 4, 2008 1:23 PM CDT
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I am really high on Rickie this year
I think he is the guy that is going to really be a difference maker.
by dixieflatline on
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Put him in your pipe and smoke him
He's extremely quick and good.
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i'm with you on this
Weeks could easily get an OBP around 400 and hit 20HR and 30 steals if he could just play 150 games
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I'm sorry,
but that ball should not have gotten through to the outfield.
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Game over.
Congratulations on your win Brewers fans. Giants aren't going to score enough to overcome that deficit.
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hey, don't sell your guys short
Villanueva is about league average, maybe a bit better, so 3 runs seems very doable.
Also, cheese.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:25 PM CDT
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I don't think I'm selling anyone short..
Except maybe bocock...
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I didn't think it was possible
to sell Bocock short.
Unless we've veered from baseball talk into wordplay, in which case I'm already lost.
Also, cheese.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:28 PM CDT
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You guys should sign John Cleese as your manager
Then you could make a documentary and sign a guy who can slug over .430.
He's extremely quick and good.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:26 PM CDT
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I don't know
The '07 Brewers were never safe with a lead less than 6.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:33 PM CDT
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Ryan really wanted that one
the girlfriend says i'm impatient...
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Apr 4, 2008 1:27 PM CDT
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Well, there's three runs
Ruh-roh
He's extremely quick and good.
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Billy Hall...
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I was just thinking to myself
Where's that dumbass that was complaining about Billy yesterday?
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Right Here
It's the Giants....can he continue this against good pitching? I doubt it.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:29 PM CDT
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I hope so
I do like him and am rooting for him to do good but it just looks like he doesn't have the same approach at the plate as he did a few years ago.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:32 PM CDT
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I couldn't find them
but didn't he hit well in spring training?
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Apr 4, 2008 1:35 PM CDT
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At the very least
I think he hit decently during spring... around .260 I think
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That's Dumas.
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hey, I didn't really watch that show
is that Beavis or Butthead?
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I guess
they are happy to be home.
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul."
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hey, a home run
i've heard of those.
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well, Sanchez's
7.27 ERA as a starter isn't about to go down.
Also, cheese.
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Question for you guys..
Do you think that Molina is calling too many fastballs? This has come up several times with Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum who have great secondary pitches as well as their fastballs.
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Whatever he's doing
Keep doing it.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Apr 4, 2008 1:31 PM CDT
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On another message board
They say Sanchez has mainly thrown fastballs, so you might be right.
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Hey, speaking on Lincecum
Did you have a stroke when he came back out after that 90-minute rain delay the other day?
He's extremely quick and good.
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Yes.
We all did over there. Only 3 games into the season and Bruce Bochy has made some of the stupidest managerial moves I've ever seen.
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As a Giants fan
YES
If you like things that are funny, perhaps you'll like ChatterBalks Dot Com?
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Apr 4, 2008 1:33 PM CDT
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funny site
I'm glad somebody made all the jokes I was thinking regarding Kaz Matsui's injury.
Also, cheese.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:36 PM CDT
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Thanks
As a person, I feel bad for Kaz Matsui.
As a person who's sometimes kind of a jerk, I mostly feel amused.
If you like things that are funny, perhaps you'll like ChatterBalks Dot Com?
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i'm with you there
but regardless of how good of people we are, it's comedy gold. no doubt about that.
Also, cheese.
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Apr 4, 2008 1:39 PM CDT
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Inappropriate puns about genitalia and posteriors are what we are all about at McCovey Chronicles. And sometimes baseball.
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.
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I threatened to jihad.
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.
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Gameday says
18 straight fastballs.....that can't be right can it?
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Apr 4, 2008 1:33 PM CDT
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He threw a breaking ball to Prince
That got called strike two and Prince disagreed. Was that 18 pitches ago?
He's extremely quick and good.
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It shows CV...
throwing a variety of pitches....
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If it is MLB's gameday
then it does call other pitches fastballs. Some hard sliders and not great change ups.
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Castillo.
Our POWER!
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Castillo
He's notorious among Brewers fans for This series in 2006. Four games, four HR, 14 RBI.
He's extremely quick and good.
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hey, the giants have the pitcher batting eighth too!
oh, oops, no, that's bocock.
Also, cheese.
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That's a blow to the ego
Don't bring Bocock down like that, man.
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Well, Villanueva seems to think Bocock is ok
the whole walk-before-the-pitcher thing.
Also, cheese.
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Bocock is an anagram for "Crackin' boob"
Just thought I'd share.
He's extremely quick and good.
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that's almost as bad as an 'anal fissure'
Also, cheese.
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Sounds painful.
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Also, to give it a bit of a Wisconsin flavor...
After the Davidson loss: "Bo, cock brain"
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"Bocock up, the pitcher on deck."
"Let's not make a mistake here."
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According to Yahoo
Bocock looks like the Giants logo.
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That's probably why they drafted him.
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watch out for Brent Brewer, guys
when he makes it, he's going to look like the Brewers logo, only TOOLSIER!
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His name reminds me of a great joke....
Man that walks through airport turnstyle sideways is going to Bangkok
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WalrusMan
This may make you feel better. I'm 26 years old and the last time the brewers were in the playoffs I was 10 months old. At least you've had a lot of good teams with Barry.
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Hey.
I couldn't be happier than just listening to Giants baseball. There's nothing not to love about it. It's just frustrating seeing all of the stupid moves by the management of the team. Not having any backup plans after Bonds. The stupidest move coming into the year: We have a 41-year old short stop, let's not have a backup.
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Sanchez looks like Ichiro up there
He's extremely quick and good.
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Looks like Ichiro, hits like Mac Suzuki.
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As long as he doesn't hit like...
He's extremely quick and good.
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I remember that game.
Hennessey HR. Prince Fielder coming into home with his elbow to Todd Greene's face. Magellan in left having to make a dive to catch a routine flyball that he broke the other way on.
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That was before Prince's time
But I definitely remember the game. I was there. It was horrible.
He's extremely quick and good.
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Maybe I'm thinking of just that series..
Because the last two didn't happen that day it looks.
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For BCB folks
Magellan = Todd Linden.
He is called that because he would tend to circumnavigate the Earth before catching a fly ball.
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By the way
...if you want to reminisce about the Todd Greene Incident, check out yesterday's game thread for pics.
He's extremely quick and good.
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That was a good game. I wrote a recap of that game for my sports website. I'll remember it as long as I live, I think.
Coincidentally Victor Santos, the losing pitcher that way, is in the Giants org now. He's starting in AAA Fresno.
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losing pitcher that DAY
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yeah
he was the losing pitcher that WAY, but that's not very specific -- Santos lost games just about every possible way.
Also, cheese.
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So much to look forward to in ye olde Fresnoe
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I'll share this OT here..
As I'm a fellow Wisconsonite.
YAY IT'S OVER 50 HERE!
It's my first winter away from California, so give me a break. But I'm sure you guys are all happy about it as well.
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Damnit JJ...
you are gonna cause Counsell to start sometime soon if you don't pick it up.
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Or, worse, Escobar
He's extremely quick and good.
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If Gwynn goes on the DL...
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how often are hammies
short term things?
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BTW
ZiPS has Escobar projected at a Bocockian .251/.275/.296.
He's extremely quick and good.
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actually, that's considerably better
27 points of OBP and 28 points of SLG on Bocock.
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though, just occurred to me
at least part of the SLG is due to Miller vs. AT&T.
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I think you guys..
Have a new word now.
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Kendall homerun
right here
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
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The Giants lack of power...
Castillo hit was the 2nd XBH of the season for the Giants
I doubt there will be many balls hit into McCovey Cove this year
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Fearing Kendall??
4 straight balls, Didn't think I would say that all year!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
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this is wild
Sanchez is trying to be the pitching version of Rob Deer.
9 hitters, 4 K's, 1 BB, 1 HR.
Also, cheese.
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in fact, six PAs in a row without fair contact
Also, cheese.
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No one has told Brian and Bill
...that 18 games in a row would tie a ML record too.
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I didn't even realize
Weeks has a streak going.
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Interesting
I'm watching the game on yahoo gamechannel and listening to Uecker on MLB audio. I would expect the audio to be a little ahead of the gamechannel, but it's actually flipped, with the mlb audio lagging behind the gamechannel.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
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The audio
Is always a little behind for some reason.
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Hmmm...
Never would've guessed that.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
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the 7 second delay
For live events that you have in America surely does not carry over for radio
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5 Ks in 2 innings
wow. and to think cameron isn't on the team yet. Plus, Hall homered.
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It's not that awful for the Brewers
Sanchez has always been known as having great strikeout stuff (one poster at Minor League Ball claimed he'd rather have Sanchez than Clayton Kershaw in a keeper league, which, while insane, shows that lots of people do believe in his promise). The questions with him are durability (not a lot of experience pitching a full season in the minors or majors), consistency (he has that HR-give-up tendency), and injury.
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SEVEN three true outcomes in a row
K
HR
K
K
K
BB
K
Also, cheese.
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Call up Branyan!
He's extremely quick and good.
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Branyan is actually in our system
He's extremely quick and good.
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Four straight for Villy
K, BB, K, K
He's extremely quick and good.
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trying to make a decision on
MLB.TV, MLB.TVPremium, or MLB Gameday Audio. I've had MLB.TV before and liked it but had some issues. Just checked out the demo of MLB.TVPremium and it looks sweet. And the Gameday Audio is really affordable. Any suggestions?
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I went with audio
simply because I live in Madison and the Brewers are blacked out on .tv here.
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Audio is cheap..
And then also you can choose the feed. Instead of getting the home team's feed you can choose your announcers.
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Audio does sound good
I live in NC now so I don't have to worry about blackouts unless they are playing the Nats, Reds, Or Braves but I could listen to the games at work and also stream it on my phone if I'm away from the computer
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Yea, and Audio has no blackouts.
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I bought MLB Extra Innings
It was a little pricey but I would rather watch on my tv than my computer and have no complaints thus far.
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I've always wanted the Extra Innings pkg but didn't want to spend that much. Plus, by doing the MLB.TV deal I can go month to month
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Thanks for the opinions
Its been helpful. I'll try to make my decision after this weekend once the Extra Innings package preview is over
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Villy doing ok
but lots of pitches...47 through 2 and a third.
Also, cheese.
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Not happy with the pitch count
but can't complain about the score. 5 innings seems like about the max for Villy today.
Also, cheese.
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Who would be first out of the pen?
Mota?
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maybe, yeah
or this might be the sort of day when we see a full inning from Shouse.
Also, cheese.
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which, by the way
I wouldn't mind. Depending on who is coming up, I think Shouse could handle a couple of these righties.
Also, cheese.
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Turnbow or Shouse
since they are yet to pitch
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turnbow pitched yesterday
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Turnbow (or Shouse)
Neither have pitched yet this year.
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Bow
pitched yesterday.
Also, cheese.
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are you trying to say
that the giants right handed hitters aren't strong?
or that shouse will win a cy young?
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two words
rich aurilia.
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Not strong righties?
We've got Bengie Molina and Aaron Rowand! How dare you!!!!
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:)
I probably wouldn't put Shouse in against the middle of the order, actually.
Also, cheese.
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Heh
Jonathon Sanchez was an college legend in NAIA, according to Brian Anderson. Isn't that a little like saying a golfer dominated the Northwoods Beer Golf Association?
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He pitched like four no hitters over his college career. World beater!
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in his defense
he did say that sanchez through 4 no hitters. Im guessing that doesn't happen too often.
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I know
It just seems weird. Hypothetically, if Matt LaPorta hit 60 home runs in the Pioneer League he'd be a legend down there, too.
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Interestingly
The quality of the competition is what gave Weeks such impressive college numbers
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definitely
the SWAC (the conference in which Southern plays) is a joke. last year Southern had the 8th easiest schedule of the ~300 D-1 teams. I don't have the data to prove this yet, but I think the SWAC is lower-level competition than a couple of conferences in Division Two.
Also, cheese.
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close
a first round pick last year, Beau Mills, was playing in the NAIA. Mostly because of academic problems he had had earlier at a D1 school. (Fresno State)
Also, cheese.
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A lot of us really really really wanted Mills in the draft, too. I had a private laugh when I heard about academic problems at Fresno State. California State U takes damn near anyone who can put together passing grades and he clearly played baseball well. He had to be epically retarded to mess up that bad at FSU.
..says the one who is applying to San Jose State in the fall.
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in fairness...
It's not Fresno State's standards, it's NCAA standards (usually).
Then again, I guess the NCAA standards are grade-related, and if FSU is handing out B's, then it doesn't reflect well on Mills.
Oh well, I guess he managed to get the grades at Lewis-Clark State, Idaho.
Also, cheese.
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Plus Fresno is just an overall dumbbell town. The university reflects a lot of that.
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Sanchez is trying to match Villy's pitch count
lots of bullpen action coming your way.
Also, cheese.
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Daily Vargas Update
Supposedly Vargas turned down an offer from the Mets because they wanted to send him to triple A.
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In a battle of the basement
Astros 2 Cubs 0 Top of the 4th
Towles 2 run HR
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wow, I did not expect that
I figured the Cubs would manhandle Sampson and Hill would dominate the Stros.
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Cubs only have 1 hit
No prizes in guessing who
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Zambrano?
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Jason Kendall? :)
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Nope the one guy we could not get out.
Fukudome
Sampson has only needed 33 pitches for 4 inns.
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Sheesh
That reminds me of when Carlos Silva had something like a 74-pitch complete game against the Brewers a few years ago.
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115 pitches
3 full innings. Amazingly, it's only been an hour.
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Powell
"Slowing down in work zones can save you a ticket, or perhaps more importantly, a life."
Perhaps...at least it's not griping about the #8 hitter.
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*perhaps* more importantly?
Also, cheese.
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I know, right?
Also, in regards to the awful cleanup hitters, last year St. Louis had a .706 OPS out of the #4 spot.
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yeesh!
That's downright Bocockian!
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That's what he gets for dicking around.
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that's not
punny
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You have a lot of balls to say that to me.
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Gameday shows pitch #2
to Castillo as going right through his neck. Delayed retaliation?
Also, cheese.
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I wonder if
any of the BCB regulars are at today's game. My biggest complaint about Miller Park over the years has been the sound system (especially when you have between-inning events involving sound, and no one can hear what's being played).
Allegedly, they've upgraded the sound system.
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My complaint was..
I couldn't get a scorecard anywhere.
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it'd be too nerdy
for me to go to the game with my laptop talking with you guys. i love you all, but i just can't do it
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Baseball Dan would
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you have no idea how true that is!
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Maybe they should install the sound system from County Stadium
They can put that giant upside down lower case t next to bernie's house.
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It is upgraded
I went to the last exhibition game, and you could actually hear the tune of Roll Out the Barrel.
He's extremely quick and good.
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Bocock
Positively Gwynnish there.
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Umpires
Are Bill and Tim Welke related (or, equally possibly, is Gameday erring in saying they have the same last name?).
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Plus the third brother
Wee Willie.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on
Apr 4, 2008 2:22 PM CDT
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The Giant's slogan for this season
Is seriously "All Out All Season"
by drezdn on
Apr 4, 2008 2:21 PM CDT
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You forgot the first s.
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Apr 4, 2008 2:22 PM CDT
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well, 77 pitches through 4
still not very good. But he should definitely make it through five, and if all goes well, maybe he'll get an out or two in the sixth.
But 6 K's ... can't complain about that.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Apr 4, 2008 2:21 PM CDT
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wow
8-5 white sox over the tigers. Think they are hitting the panic button yet?
by dixieflatline on
Apr 4, 2008 2:23 PM CDT
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at least the tigers are scoring runs
that was the freakish thing about the Royals series.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Apr 4, 2008 2:23 PM CDT
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the lack of a decent
Bullpen is going to hurt them big time in the AL.
by Saltire on
Apr 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT
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Hoping this continues to justify my picking CLE as the AL Central winner.
Signed,
Told You So in California
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Apr 4, 2008 2:25 PM CDT
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If they are hitting the panic button
It's because Sheffield and Cabrera are on the bench.
by brewfan2 on
Apr 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT
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Ted Simmons
Looks tired today.
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by TheJay on
Apr 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT
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I thought the same thing
But I was thinking he just looked bored as hell.
by brewfan2 on
Apr 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT
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I did as well
but I thought it might be the Yoda look.
by ol Pete on
Apr 4, 2008 2:25 PM CDT
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hit and run
good time to my friend.
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by Michael M on
Apr 4, 2008 2:27 PM CDT
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Hey, a baseunner!
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by roguejim on
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I love that
our 5 and 6 hitters are both fast enough to worry the pitcher. Come to think of it, everybody in the lineup except for Prince, the pitcher, and Kendall (maybe Hardy) can do that.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Apr 4, 2008 2:27 PM CDT
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That's nice
Buy a Brewers hat and wear it with the tag still attached at the game.
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by TheJay on
Apr 4, 2008 2:28 PM CDT
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I see a lot of wannabe gangbangers around the San Francisco Bay Area doing that, though wearing the hats around town. I assumed such retarded behavior was a side effect of being hyphy.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Apr 4, 2008 2:30 PM CDT
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hyphy?
Not sure if this is a typo or I am out of the loop.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Apr 4, 2008 2:31 PM CDT
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It's like being crunk. The term gained steam thanks to an E-40 track. E-40 being a Bay Area rapper.
Basically it means to act retarded. But in a cool way. Hyphy kids end up looking like complete idiots either way.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Apr 4, 2008 2:35 PM CDT
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so, let's see if I get it
"Derrick Turnbow is hyphy, which explains how he got banned from international competition."
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Apr 4, 2008 2:36 PM CDT
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If Turnbow is hyphy
I think I saw him at Mervyn's last Wednesday buying an ugly red hoodie....
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Apr 4, 2008 2:44 PM CDT
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whoa, mervyn's
I thought they were out of business. the one where I grew up disappeared about a decade ago.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Apr 4, 2008 2:45 PM CDT
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Alls I know is there are many Mervyn's stores in my area. I know of two locations near my work and home. My workplace about 15 miles from my home.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on
Apr 4, 2008 2:47 PM CDT
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I never got it..
Why do people keep the sticker on the top of the hat.
And also the hat it supposed to have a curved bill to it, not straight.
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by WalrusMan on
Apr 4, 2008 2:32 PM CDT
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sticker
so it looks like you just stole it.
Also, cheese.
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Apr 4, 2008 2:32 PM CDT
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Now THAT'S HYPHY
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