Game Thread #7: Reds (4-3) at Brewers (5-1)
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 5:03 PM CDT
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Admit it, you're excited: You want to see Johnny Cueto just as much as the next guy.
Of course, you'd also like to see Cueto's first drubbing.
Mr. Haudricourt has the lineups; just click here. Gwynn is still hurting, so Gross is batting second, while everything else is as per usual, with Suppan on the mound. The JS Blog also has an interview with Cordero.
I've kept playing with my game-prediction spreadsheet. Here's what it considers so far, using ZiPS projections for all players:
- OBP and SLG for all starting position players -- that, plus the starting lineups, gives us an run estimation for each offense. (It would be nice to incorporate platoon splits, but that's a ways off.)
- IP and RA (run average--not just earned runs) for both starters--using those, we predict how many innings the starter will last and how many runs they'll give up in that time.
- RA for every member of both bullpens. This is the weakest part of my model. I just average the RA's for all relievers to get a bullpen RA. I figure the bullpen will pitch the number of innings that the starter doesn't (good assumption, that one) and use the collective RA to figure out how many runs the bullpens will allow.
- Park factors. ZiPS are park adjusted, so the Brewers numbers are right, but I need to adjust the Reds runs and runs allowed to Miller Park.
- Home field advantage. Historically, the home team wins about 54% of the time. I do something a little bit (but not much) more sophisticated than just tacking on 4% to the home team's win expectancy.
Shove all that into a spreadsheet, find the expected run totals, and generate a win expectancy for both teams. Today, your projected final score is:
- Brewers 5.21
- Reds 3.95
- Brewers win expectancy: 65%
To which I say, "Stupid spreadsheet! Don't you know the Cueto is the most awesome rookie pitcher ever?" Well, ZiPS isn't ready to anoint Cueto a Hall of Famer just yet, so neither is my spreadsheet.
Go Brewers!
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I won't be around tonight
due to bowling. So I say, Let's go Crew!
We'll be watching at Cedars Lanes in Cedarburg tonight.
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 8, 2008 5:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Also
I have a hefty collection of Opening Day pics posted on the website linked in my signature. It's the post from yesterday. Feel free to browse.
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 8, 2008 5:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The math's on our side
Even down 3-0 with two out in the ninth. Good to know!
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 5:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
let's hope it doesn't come to that
even the spreadsheet can't save us then...
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes.
A 0.14 WHIP? That's pretty tiny.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 8, 2008 5:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm. Maybe he'll suffer from WHIP envy and try to artificially inflate his number...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cordero
So, previously I said I hope Cordero doesn't get booed tonight or whenver he makes his first appearance here. After reading the quotes provided Haudricourt at the J/S this afternoon, particularly "why would I like that" regarding the deadline Melvin put on him and his agent and his comment that they should have signed him in the spring for less money, makes me more ambivalent. I'm not in the "boo his ass" camp, but I'm not going to feel particularly bad if it happens.
Jenkins, when the time comes, deserves lengthy applause in my opinion. He wasn't a great player, or even as good as I think he could have been, but he always played his ass off, most of time when he knew the team had no hope of even playing .500 ball over the long haul. Maybe that's no less than what should be expected, but it certainly was more than some other Brewers alumni from the same era offered. I guess I'll always be a fan of his for that.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 5:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ditto on all that
and i'm not a big jenks fan.
by ol Pete on Apr 8, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Cueto struck out 10 in his debut...
and the Brewers as a team have struck out a little more than 7 times per game. Small samples aside, what's your prediction for Brewer strike outs tonight? (Mixed in with the runs they'll score, of course).
Mine is 9.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 5:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll be optimistic
and say 6.
Part of my optimism is that 6 will represent a large percentage of the outs he records.
I wouldn't be surprised by double-digits, either, though. This is one nice thing about Geoff Jenkins being a Phillie -- at the very least, we don't have 3 jenkins K's to look forward to.
(Bill Hall...maybe.)
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
That's why I said that Jenkins was never as good as he could have been. Plate discipline, which I think he was capable of, wasn't a priority. Though maybe that's a forgiveable sin for a moderately powerful hitter trying to put up homeruns and stay in the league in an era where everyone else was juicing.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am feeling lucky
4 strikeouts and the young lad gives up 3 count them 3 home runs
Prince gets off of zero tonight
Hall continues his tearing up the Reds tonight
Brewers in a rout tonight bet the wife and kids on that one ;)
Its all about the Bullpen this season that is the key.
by WSB Chris on Apr 8, 2008 6:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope you're not married...
I mean, I'm with you, but a little risky...:)
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's only risky if he likes 'em.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or if he might win them back.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well played.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Cueto
especially since I managed to snag him in a deep keepers league and so far look like a genius.
It's going to be tough watching Fielder and Braun demolish him tonight.
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
by SRB on Apr 8, 2008 6:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying you started him?
Shame on you.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 8, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry, I'm still dedicated.
I'm also starting RP Eric Gagne and MRP Derrick Turnbow this week. (That's right: Derrick Turnbow)
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
by SRB on Apr 8, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off Topic
We were speaking of yarmulkes earlier in the discussion of Braun and Kapler, well here is the holy grail gentlemen. Put your orders in now (I already have).
by Hyatt on Apr 8, 2008 6:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice!
it has been fanshotted.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now if only the fanshots auto updated
I'm still trying to get used to ->right click->open in new tab, to look at pics, since the thread seems to take a while to reset after hittin back. Well worth it for the new forums though.
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that would be nice
I think it would *really* slow down the site, though. I don't know much about the servers and all that, but I think that the comments are stored on one server while fanposts and fanshots are stored on different ones.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that irony?
Talking about a yarmulke being the holy grail?
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I unreasonable
to worry about Gabe G in center?
by ol Pete on Apr 8, 2008 7:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well, in the Sheehan article I was responding to earlier
he described Gabe in center and Braun in left as a 'science experiment'
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was getting nervous there..
But I found the game on channel 21 where I am. Their website only lists 8 and 23 for Charter cable.. Way to go WMLW!
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 7:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
tune in uek
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
by dux2bux on Apr 8, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Keppinger has two home runs already?
He's almost to his career high.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if diamond earrings will help Grif
by ol Pete on Apr 8, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not as much
as diamond hip replacements
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
by SRB on Apr 8, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Quick inning for Suppan
Only nine pitches.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Prince's Pants
Seriously, those are bordering on Hammer
by Hyatt on Apr 8, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
as good a time as any
to link to this
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting
cueto looks pretty darn good...but no k's. i'll take that as a good sign -- if they are making contact the first time they see him, maybe it'll be good contact the second time around.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hope the ump is generous
for Soup as well
by ol Pete on Apr 8, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no Ks
in all the media hoopla, his ability to "miss bats" was talked about. Hope that fastball stays flat.
by ol Pete on Apr 8, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just felt a tremor down here in Chicago
what happened?
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
by SRB on Apr 8, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow...nice play!
maybe the new diet is going to turn him into steve garvey in the field.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
brian bannister beat phil hughes today. nice!
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know you've watched too many FSN feeds
When the first thought in a border line strike is: Hmm, good pitch. I don't know where that missed.
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good hustle out of the box
on that foul ball.
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul."
by DaleCoop14 on Apr 8, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like they should've batted Cueto 8th
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Apr 8, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cardinals
are batting C. Izturis 9th after Brad Thompson. I thought TLR gave that up.
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul."
by DaleCoop14 on Apr 8, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
I think it's because Brad Thompson is a better hitter. He has the lone RBI of the game.
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul."
by DaleCoop14 on Apr 8, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ouch
I would not want to be Ceasar's ego...
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Apr 8, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Billy lays off the high heat
but it doesn't matter..
man thats an impressive slider.
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
IIRC he didn't go to a 3 ball count against the Dbacks
Braun and Billy both looked pretty eager.
by ol Pete on Apr 8, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hall seemed a bit more a patient than Braun
but that last pitch broke down, while the others seemed to tail away from a righty more. ones he avoided earlier in the count.
"Tough to take", as Rock would say..
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so much for my theory
about contact the first time through, better contact 2nd time through.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Suppan looking pretty good
He started the year off strong last year too. Hopefully he can keep this going.
by dixieflatline on Apr 8, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With that improved defense
hopefully he will..
Or at least thats what I got out of that linked article earlier :)
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kill the groove thing
Crew needs to find a way to get Cueto out of his pitching groove and rythmic pace and get into his head. He is young, it's time to play some mind games. Call some late time and step out of the box do something different.
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Apr 8, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice bunt
by sup
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
by dux2bux on Apr 8, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
According to plan
DP is off the board
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
gidp I should have said
but it worked out anyways!
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think you can stop Jason Kendall?
I think not.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 8, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lucky that dunn bobbled that
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
by dux2bux on Apr 8, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kendall
is on fire this season!
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
by SRB on Apr 8, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yay
The Brewers are living in a manufactured run community.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mrs. Roguejim sez
Hey, Jason Kendall is like Charlie Sheen from Major League.
She's so smart.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 8, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't he really be like Tom Berenger?
I.e., the gritty, salty, whole grain, lumpy gravy, veteran catcher with the bad knees and the big heart?
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
She's thinking more
the eyesight correction thing.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 8, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh. duh.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course,
he just realized Jason Kendall is hitting .500
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
by SRB on Apr 8, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
crazy as it sounds
Jason made that look easy...
by ol Pete on Apr 8, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Powell carrying water for the blub
So, this Cordero business really has the team and its broadcasters off-message. Was it insane for Cincinnati to sign a closer to a 4-year deal, or was the Brewers offer basically the same, give or take a million?
One of these days, Powell may actually realize that in carrying water for the team, he has relinquished any consistent opinions he may have once had.
by Marty McSuperFly on Apr 8, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to think Doug is insane like a fox
and like in the Caballo situation, he offered as much money as he could that he knew would be turned down.
but since we don't know that, you certainly have a good point.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the way it reads to me too.
I was/am nervous about the pen and the closer's spot when Cordero left, but that's a lot of cash for the Brewers to spend on one arm.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wowza
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
by dux2bux on Apr 8, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My first game to watch on MLBTV Premium...
...is blacked out :( On the plus side I get to listen to Uecker for the first time in forever
by verno329 on Apr 8, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate mlb.tv and gameday audio
Why, oh why can't mlb design and operate a simple, intuitive interface for these things that works on the first try even half of the time?
Oh well, maybe I'm just a moron.
by sheeter on Apr 8, 2008 8:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It looks great...
once you can get it to play. I even tried that MLBTV Mosiac thing to see if I could still see this game but it was still blacked out
by verno329 on Apr 8, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
I don't have a problem with the video quality, but every time something won't load, or various features don't work, or links take me to the wrong place I ask myself: 'Why do I pay money for this'.
Of course, the answer is always the same- I want the games
by sheeter on Apr 8, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So whats the scouting report on Cueto?
Does he have two sliders or is that a really tight curve (slurve) that breaks downward?
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 8:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
looking for new comments are we?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 8, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That z key is nice
I almost did that a few times myself
by Jordan M on Apr 8, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
On a normal night if a Brewers pitcher had thrown 63 pitches, you'd have to wonder if they were through the fourth or not.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to discount suppan's performance, which is great
but I was surprised, when filling out my spreadsheet, how weak the Reds offense is. A few boppers, sure, but they aren't THAT much better than the best of the three Giants lineups we saw.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
no
projected performance
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I know the Reds offense tends to get overrated, but that surprises me.
If you take out Patterson and add in Bruce, how would that change?
by Jordan M on Apr 8, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
goes up
from about 4.15 runs against league average pitching to 4.3 runs.
increases their odds of winning by about 1.5%.
the patterson/keppinger combo is a disaster, at least based on projections.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Dusty Baker
He moves our manager up to 29th best in the majors
by Jordan M on Apr 8, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
That's a little shocking to consider actually. Lots of folks have suggested they're the only team in the division that might approach the Brewers run total.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How I loathe the Bucks right now
A great game to watch, and the first one I was planning on sitting down and watching live start to finish, and I find out it's overriden by the Bucks, and WLMW isn't a channel in the Fox Valley. Oh well, Uecker and Powell are fine, but this would be fun to watch right now.
by Jordan M on Apr 8, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
where are you
and do you have cable/sat?
by ol Pete on Apr 8, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
North Appleton
And standard cable. Usually, WMLW games are shown on FSN anyways, but not so tonight because of the Bucks.
by Jordan M on Apr 8, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops I'm talkin to someone else at the same time
but MLB Extra Innings is still coming in free for me. Check it out.
by ol Pete on Apr 8, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
extra innings
aren' t the Brewers blacked out on that as well?
by sheeter on Apr 8, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah here in Milwaukee
but maybe not for him? Dunno.
by ol Pete on Apr 8, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm right there with you.
And there's plent of other reasons to loathe the Bucks, and the NBA in general.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
check the MLB Extra Innings
its free through tonite I think
by ol Pete on Apr 8, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I grew up in appleton but now I live in michigan
by EzMak24 on Apr 8, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
i'm in the same boat too
does ANYONE care about the bucks?
by warwick5s on Apr 8, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Herb Kohl?
Sometimes, anyway.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am hanging on by a thread
the next GM decision is crucial though. If it is Billy King then I am done.
by molitorfan on Apr 8, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do
Well, until late November, anyway.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately
It probably won't change for a few years until the extra-long TV deal signed before Attanasio took over runs out.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
like clockwork
let's do it again bottom of the order!
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
as well he should be
apparently..
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There will be Lasik
Kendall drinks his milkshake!
by 54438Crew on Apr 8, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wha?
Sveum held Hardy up? Remember the date, huh?
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing
2.8 mil last year was great and with the 5-1 start you would expect a few more people.
by dixieflatline on Apr 8, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Enh
Bad weather on a school night probably hurt them.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our defense
is outstanding tonight!
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
by SRB on Apr 8, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As opposed to last year
When they were pretty much all out there standing.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow!
bad defensive team?
not anymore, baby.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
this is almost as much fun to watch as a good offense
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
by dux2bux on Apr 8, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Uecker
I think that he thinks the Reds left fielder's name is "Big Adam Dunn". I don't think I've heard him refer to him without the "Big".
by Jordan M on Apr 8, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Encarnacion
At least we know he's not clutch, right? :)
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brantley
Making a big deal about Encarnacion not being clutch...right before a walk-off home run.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was almost mad
"He's not clutch... GET HIM OUT OF THE GAME!"
Cue three-run, walkoff homer...
by Jordan M on Apr 8, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boo on BA
BA was talking about how this game features three of the game's great sluggers --- Prince, Dunn, and Griffey. No yamulke for Brian Anderson!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 8, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cueto
It'll be interesting to see how long he stays out there - in his 10 strikeout game he came out after seven innings and 92 pitches. He's at 77 before this inning starts.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gabe Gross does his best to keep him around
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, 6 strikeouts
he better stop. somebody predicted 6 k's...
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Margin...
Sure would be nice to put another 1 or 2 runs across here...
by Lake County on Apr 8, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No no, no, you've got it all wrong- Suppan is clutch
by Jordan M on Apr 8, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy to look up
but I'm lazy: how many scoreless innings have we pitched now? 9 for Sheets, 6 for Suppan (and counting), and I think 1 from the game before?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 8, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB.com
makes me want to hurt people.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was a quick inning
With the pitchers spot up 3rd I wonder if Dusty would think about pinch hitting if someone was on? What am I saying this is Dusty Baker! Flog the starter.
by dixieflatline on Apr 8, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Has Cueto
thrown three balls to anybody in this game yet?
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
by SRB on Apr 8, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kendall
Kendall is a breath of fresh air. Rickie - you had time!
by Lake County on Apr 8, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm wondering
Rickie made a great play to get to it, so they probably gave the batter a hit. Still, he got to the ball, and made a bad throw. Probably should be an error.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 8, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grande and Welsh
Anyone watching the Reds' FSN feed?
by Lake County on Apr 8, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Grande '82
If anyone doesn't know - Grande worked in Milwaukee in the early 80s. Nice to have someone call a game who actually understands the city. Good dudes.
by Lake County on Apr 8, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh.
I know he's only thrown 82 pitches, but I half expected them to hit for Cueto there...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
think of all the ink
and all the chattering that has been done over that. If he screwed up his new young guys, it would be the story of his career - that is unless he were to start winning WSs
by ol Pete on Apr 8, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Votto
has one career stolen base. Why is Soup so damn worried about him???
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Apr 8, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Votto actually had pretty good SB numbers in the minors
23 last year I think
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 8, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction
23/31 in 2006. 17/27 last year in the minors.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 8, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coulda had it Rickie
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 8, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he plays right on the grass infield border
move in a step and he gets fewer bad bounces
but what do I know
by ol Pete on Apr 8, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shucks
That play would've been nice.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nuts
Maybe we should get another run
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 8, 2008 8:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Still
this has been a very good outing for Soup
by verno329 on Apr 8, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
who says
kendall can't throw guys out
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
by Michael M on Apr 8, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow!
Hell of a play by Weeks to tag Patterson out.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 8, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to have to see the x-mo
or whatever the Sam Hill they call it.
by ol Pete on Apr 8, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I can't believe he called him out on that. That throw went about 115 feet.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
looks like he got the glove down in front of the bag
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
by dux2bux on Apr 8, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It kills me
that Kendall can't reach second base on the fly.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 8, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Suppan thought he might get hit
He had to duck even in his crouch on the mound.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
I'll take it.. Wasn't a pretty throw though
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Keppinger
Took my son to the Hand Surgeon this morning and found out the office manager is Keppinger's Mom. Real nice lady. Found out my son pitches for the local HS and spent 10 minutes talking to him. Had some real cool pics of Jeff in her office. She said Jeff's biggest disappointment in making it to the bigs was finding out it is a "business" and not a game any more.
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Apr 8, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
JTM
That cheesesteak looked mighty fine...
by Lake County on Apr 8, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i'll take that call
after the awful one this weekend (sunday?)
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Need some production out of the top 2/3 of the order to win this one.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nah
pinch hitter + kendall is all we need!
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good ole game day
It showed Keppinger getting 4 straight balls and getting walked and then showed Patterson getting caught stealing after the walk was given. Nice!!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Apr 8, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WHAMMY
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
by dux2bux on Apr 8, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
billy hall loves facing the reds
doesn't he?
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
by Michael M on Apr 8, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Suprisingly
Billy has one of the better set of eyes eyes for Cueto.
A good sign hopefully.
AND IT IS!!!
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bill Hall is a stud who hits bombs.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 8, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pink Bat Special!
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
by SRB on Apr 8, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Billy!
I wonder if he could even see clearly after messing around with his eyes so much during the at-bat.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Got the wrong guy
You have Cordero Cincy. You really need Hall.
by Lake County on Apr 8, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
billy!
i never doubted you, buddy! :)
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Billy!
Glad to see that Billy is hitting so far this year. Still killing the Reds!
by verno329 on Apr 8, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Money op Jeff
The Blog is more current than Gameday for me. You guys had 5 comments before GD showed the hit!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Apr 8, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ha
even my mlb.tv feed is a little behind some of you guys
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laptop on couch-arm trick
Hart abused...again.
by Lake County on Apr 8, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw it on the blog
before my Gameday showed it and before I heard Uecker call it
by verno329 on Apr 8, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now we're spoilers
A downside of the new threads?
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time for Jeff to put in a delay...
And as I say this...my Directv goes out.
by Lake County on Apr 8, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a problem here
Doesn't bother at all. Actually nice to know that Uecker's call is coming
by verno329 on Apr 8, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh
Counsell has a helmet on...
Heh...Dick Pole is the Reds' pitching coach.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One can only hope that
Brian Bockock eventually signs with the Reds
by Jordan M on Apr 8, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rusty Kuntz is a base coach for the Mariners
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 8, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sportsline is showing a Bill Hall strikeout currently...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll just go ahead and assume that's not accurate...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always on top of things TSSC
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Apr 8, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am surprised Dusty didn't leave him in til his arm fell off.
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Apr 8, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man
Gamecenter and cbssportsline are a crappy way to watch a game.
North Carolina needs to put Uecker on the radio.
by mikeynaked on Apr 8, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
True. CBSsportsline is completely freaking out right now....
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
go with mlb.tv
no blackouts
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
by dux2bux on Apr 8, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
No blackouts?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 8, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you're in mke you can't watch the crew on it
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
by dux2bux on Apr 8, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
You said no blackouts.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 8, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*I didn't realize you were talking about NC
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 8, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you're in NC
Get mlb.tv or gameday audio.
The only blackouts you'd get would be national games.
by warwick5s on Apr 8, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately
they classify my home markets as Orioles, National, Braves, and Reds
by verno329 on Apr 8, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is warming in the pen
for the Suds City boys for you guys with TV coverage?
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Apr 8, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i've seen shouse and heard mota mentioned
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
by dux2bux on Apr 8, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to get Cueto out of there
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 8, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Another nice Cueto start
But he has to lose some, might as well be by 1 run to the best team in baseball.
Ned Yost's Brewers: Braun Over Brains
by SRB on Apr 8, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shouse was up to face Griffey...
Mota warming up now
by Lake County on Apr 8, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Suppan & Cueto
They have the same season ERA now: 2.02
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I love how deap into games the brewers starters have been going
by EzMak24 on Apr 8, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The last two games anyway.
None of the back 3/5 of the rotation made it out of the 6th the first time through.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to be fair
parra had some pretty shoddy d behind him
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
by dux2bux on Apr 8, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very true.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would Escobar really be an offensive downgrade?
Hardy is looking pretty sad so far this season.
by Getting Yosted on Apr 8, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There's probably better games during which to bring that up
Seeing as he's 2 for 3 tonight, not that it means anything in the grand scheme of things.
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do remeber
it was suggested he take the place of Billy's bat in the lineup..
:)
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
words of wisdom from sedar
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
by Michael M on Apr 8, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mota
Second straight 8th inning appearance in a save situation. I don't know if that means Ned will be flexible or if he's committed to Mota as the eighth inning guy
by Jordan M on Apr 8, 2008 9:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From all his comments
Ned seems to have lost the attachment to "roles"
we can only hope that to be true
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
turnbow is becomming a rare sight
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
by dux2bux on Apr 8, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps Ned will trust him
If the Crew tack on 8 or 9 runs here
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Apr 8, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
has he made an appearance? I don't recall one.
by Lake County on Apr 8, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know he pitched in one of the cubs games
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
by dux2bux on Apr 8, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Welch is a pro
Reds have a great broadcast team.
by Lake County on Apr 8, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it's not about numbers
we don't care about things like runs and numbers of wins, we care about human beings.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When did this become the special olympics?
by Hyatt on Apr 8, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Ned Yost was hired
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dead Nuts on!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Apr 8, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as soon as jeff brantley was called up
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 8, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When the Giants came to town?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 8, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that looked like a homer off the bat
"They're trying to make me the escape goat"-Michael Scott
by dux2bux on Apr 8, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love the camera work
Only Phillips' reaction clued me in to the fact that it was an out.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Apr 8, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure where that missed.
No truer words have been spoken Rock
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm still having trouble with Prince's Pants
by Hyatt on Apr 8, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dunno if I'd advertise that one...
Just sayin'
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by TheJay on Apr 8, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
just at the mental visual of some parachute pants..
by throughhyperspace on Apr 8, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we should find a way to sneak Hyatt into a post game press conference
so he can inform Prince of his Problem Pants.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 8, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game day
is really sucking the hind tit tonight! We are froze on the second pitch to Phillips
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Apr 8, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
First Night Game
I can't remember a time when the Crew ever played 6 day games in a row before as they have before tonight...
by Lake County on Apr 8, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
feels good
to finally sit down and watch the game
by baseballdan1092 on Apr 8, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you sat down sunday to watch it
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
by Michael M on Apr 8, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Night game
Yeah, the first night game I can watch since I'm not working and the freakin' Bucks are on
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