Game Thread #37: Cardinals (23-15) at Brewers (17-19)
by Jeff Sackmann on May 11, 2008 11:00 AM CDT
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Playing the Cardinals is starting to feel like a baseball version of the South Park "Imaginationland" episodes. You think it's ridiculous that a world exists with only middle relievers, yet it somehow seems to function and even, occasionally, triumph.
Today's matchup is Braden Looper against Jeff Suppan. Here's the BR Game Preview. Looper dominated us last month, but back in September, it was a different story.
Game time: 1:05 CT.
Go Brewers!
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The Brewers suck
Lordz Of Vengeance....Just Win, Baby.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 11, 2008 11:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bill Hall will go 5 for 5 with 5 home runs
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
by Jordan M on May 11, 2008 11:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there going to be a Sunday lineup?
It might be kind of a welcome change today. The team is pretty tense, and maybe a Tony Gwynn sighting would be nice.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good call!
2B Rickie Weeks
CF Tony Gwynn Jr
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
RF Corey Hart
3B Bill Hall
SS JJ Hardy
P Jeff Suppan
C Jason Kendall
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
by Jordan M on May 11, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 children of major leaguers in the lineup
That’s gotta be some kind of good luck.
Ya know….they could have 4 sons of major leaguers if they were to sign Bonds. ducks
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think Bonds could pitch?
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
by Jordan M on May 11, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
With enough Roids and HGH he can do anything! ANYTHING!
by SgtClueLs on May 11, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dunno
If we were allowed roids and HGH, then Turnbow, Cameron and Mota would all be top closers.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't forget Gagne
with HGH he was lights out
Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay
by verno329 on May 11, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant Gagne
Don’t know why I typed Cameron there.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's excused
Please excuse TheJay from today’s blog. He has a good excuse. He graduates from college this afternoon.
TheJay’s Dad
by statsllc on May 11, 2008 11:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Congrats, TheJay!
It must be a UWM graduation. It always seems to rain on UWM graduation day.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
we really need him here!
seriously, congrats. it’s way more gratifying to spend your free time crunching obscure baseball numbers with a college degree. I should know!
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 11, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats!
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
congrats
this officially makes TheJay eligible for this year’s draft. how’s his fastball?
"You guys know me. I take a long time to analyze things."
- Ned Yost
by SunglassesAtNight on May 11, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you everyone (I didn't hear about this post until today)
I could probably be outpitched by a T-ball stand, so don’t go drafting me yet.
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
by TheJay on May 12, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
congrats TheJay!
Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay
by verno329 on May 11, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2008/05/11/gagne-out-as-closer.aspx
Gagne out as closer
by warwick5s on May 11, 2008 11:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm
Yost also said the staff has a handle on why Gagne has struggled and blown three of his last six save chances. He didn’t reveal what the mechanical flaw was in case s“It’s very simple,” Yost said. “I’m not going to tell you and I’m not going into it because it’s nobody’s real business. Plus I don’t want to let anybody know in case the opposing team sees it, but it’s a simple adjustment that we think can get him back on track.”
The closer role will now be filled by the entire bullpen, and Yost said it might be as many as three pitchers in the ninth inning if the opposing team’s lineup dictates such moves.
I hope he’s not lying about the adjustment, though he probably is. I’m glad he didn’t proclaim that Mota is the closer or whatever.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
by Jordan M on May 11, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it
Gagne says it’s a mental issue. Yost says it’s a mechanical issue. Kinda similar to what La Russa came out with. It cracks me up because everything can be said to be a mechanical issue. Whether it’s in his head, or if he simply can’t get the ball to go where he wants, in the end pitching is all about throwing a ball in the correct place, with the correct spin. So, really, it’s just a nice way to say nothing, while reassuring the press that they’re doing something.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yikes
I guess the div blockquote tag doesn’t work any more
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
the comments are weird.
You can use the quote mark icon between the subject line and comment box.
Or use the right arrow (”>”) in front of a line or two of text, and it automatically gives you the box.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 11, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff
Ned made another good decision, whether the Moustache strongly encouraged it or not. It appears as if Nedly knows his job may be on the line. Hopefully Gagne can get some work pitching middle relief and get his confidence back.
by molitorfan on May 11, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
any mlb.tv premium people out there?
The 800k stream always works fine for me, but I’ve never managed to get the 1.2 megabit stream. Anyone else see that?
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Marty,
Are you using Vista? Apparently there have been a lot of trouble with that and Vista.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is on Mac OS X
I can’t remember if I tried it on an XP computer or not….definitely no Vista to worry about.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i use mac os x and have mlbtv
i have had no problems with the 1.2 mb…except for like two times when it wasn’t there at all. i have no idea why that’d happened for you…that sucks, cause 1.2 really does look better.
and go mac! :)
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
by Michael M on May 11, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hrmph
I may need to look into this. Both of my macs do it, and one is leopard, one is tiger.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is it possible that you didn't pay for the premium version?
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
by Michael M on May 11, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i should have clarified
do you even see the 1.2 mb option? and is so and you click on it, what happens?
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
by Michael M on May 11, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I paid for premium
And I have no trouble with the 800. It’s just that when I click on 1.2, I get a blank screen, like the silverlight plugin never gets the stream.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try it in IE (assuming you're using Firefox)
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No IE on the mac
But I did just try in safari, and that works. Guess I’ll use that when watching games.
Thanks for the help, guys.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have Vista and the 1.2M feed always works fine for me
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Jeff
If I’m watching a Mets game on mlb.tv, and it shows as being broadcast on CW11, does that mean the insufferable dumbass doing color commentary is Keith Hernandez?
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
TBS game
Ron Darling is doing that game and I think he usually is on the Mets’ broadcasts as well
by molitorfan on May 11, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The play-by-play guy is awesome, too
Just pointed out that the Reds got Cueto from Texas in the trade for JOEY Hamilton.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
even the Mets' broadcasters
are subject to the Sunday lineup effect
by molitorfan on May 11, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's all good
The mets are jumping all over Cueto early.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
beats me
I don’t have a TV. I don’t think I’ve watched a mets game on TV for more than a year.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 11, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's good
Don’t ask anyone to turn up the volume at the bar, either. These guys are terrible. They may even give the Cardinals guys a run for their money.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been gone for a bit but in case this hasn't been reported elsewhere
Gagne is out as closer and Ned says they are going to go to closer by committee.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
uh oh
I think the Brewers need someone to start working on message control. Trenny just said that the scheduled meeting to evaluate the team is something that the team does every year, about 4 – 5 weeks into the season. In an article in the JS this morning, Yost said it was previously scheduled because they decided after last year that they’d start having monthly meeting to evaluate the team.
My standard disclaimer applies. They are under no obligation to tell us anything, but why bother to lie about it? Either don’t say anything, or at least have the decency to coordinate the lies they tell the media.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because lying is fun
And maybe they both were telling the truth to the reporters it is just that Doug lied to Ned and then Ned told that lie to the JS.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha
That would suck to be Ned. “What? They’ve been meeting to evaluate the team every year at this time, and they only now invited me?”
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if anyone else noticed the awful HD quality on Fox yesterday
Funny that FSN’s HD quality is so much better than Fox.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha, stupid cardinals
Even I know better than to accessorize pink with red
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
according to mlb.gameday
suppan has hit pujols 4 times this at bat. Are his pitches really that far inside?
"My plan is my plan," Yost said.
by TAPmoney on May 11, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB gameday uses the PITCHf/x data
Which really isn’t to be trusted until corrections are made. That said, it usually is pretty accurate near home plate so that is a bit of a surprise.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was the stuff
you said was accurate to within half an inch (or something like that)
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was last year
I haven’t run the numbers yet this year. If that has changed that will be a beast to correct.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've gotten in the habit of watching it along with the strike/BB calls
and almost all the time when observing the video doesn’t look like the umpires call, the gameday will agree with the umpire.
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet
I love when my internet connection takes a dump on my chest
Lordz Of Vengeance....Just Win, Baby.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 11, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
They had Pujols picked off and then Rickie almost blew the rundown. Hardy bailed him out
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that was a very interesting rundown
by molitorfan on May 11, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting because we got the out
If Hardy was there I don’t think interesting would be the word I would use.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
FSN coverage being what it is, we haven’t seen much of it :)
Pujols was about halfway, so he must have been going
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't fsn...
show/announce yesterday that they have brought on a new producer? They didn’t say much about it, but I imagine the guy/girl who couldn’t pick the right camera 50% of the time got canned. Hopefully the brought someone better on….and we’ll actually get to see >70% of the game
"My plan is my plan," Yost said.
by TAPmoney on May 11, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that one hit rickie
How’d gameday show that?
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
going through the thigh of the ghost man
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just below
his buttocks
"My plan is my plan," Yost said.
by TAPmoney on May 11, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i really like the lineup a lot more
with gwynn batting second
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
by Michael M on May 11, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I love a lefty there
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok middle of the order here
It sure would be nice to have a lead. It was two series ago since we have had the lead kind of.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
come on braun
lets jump ahead for once…i’m sick of playing behind
"My plan is my plan," Yost said.
by TAPmoney on May 11, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One more thing about MLB gameday
It sure looked like at least one of those pitches to Gwynn was a strike. Maybe the ump has a tight zone though.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Man, Schumacher can run
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hard hit balls
please go in the gap or hey, over the fence
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
how close was that to a homerun…its half over the wall according to gameday
"My plan is my plan," Yost said.
by TAPmoney on May 11, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Brewers
Everyone like looper today
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Braun and Fielder
both just missed a few pitches
by molitorfan on May 11, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smarter baserunning
by Weeks there
by UWbrewball on May 11, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now batting...
bill hall….bill hall…
now batting…
.201….201
"My plan is my plan," Yost said.
by TAPmoney on May 11, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice to score first for a change
feels like forever since we’ve done that
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on May 11, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rather we score early and take the night off
then take the night off altogether
by UWbrewball on May 11, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah
Melvin doesn’t have any problem with the way the brewers are playing, but he does have a problem with how they’re performing. That’s crystal clear.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he meant...
performing...
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After yesterday's Brewers game
I went to a really nice Mexican restaurant in the Mitchell street area.
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 1:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Comments are for commenting
If you want to plug your own restaurant, please use our FoodPost feature.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm
Suppan is not in a good place today
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice
I little vargas-ian inning for suppan there.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You said it
Four walks today already. If that continues he won’t be able to work out of it all the time.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't watch...
gameday…come on suppan
"My plan is my plan," Yost said.
by TAPmoney on May 11, 2008 1:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
In play, out(s)
Relax
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suppan has a...
no hitter through 2
"My plan is my plan," Yost said.
by TAPmoney on May 11, 2008 1:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And a four-walker!
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It will be really interesting to see how long Ned waits to use him
and then what kind of situation. Maybe he won’t pitch again until a mop up role.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way the season has gone
He’s gonna be waiting awhile for one of those.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would prefer it be a meaningful situation
Abandoning Turnbow is one thing, but Gagne’s actually been near the strike zone this year.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah no
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me phrase this another way
Gagne is at least as good a pitcher as McClung, Stetter, Mota and Torres. I would like to see him used in any situation where those other guys might appear.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Here is something interesting last year Gagne fastball/change/curve splits were 54/15/31 and now this year his splits are 49/44/7. So he is throwing that change a ton this year and basically not using his curve. Interesting.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
any difference
between his splits in TEX and BOS?
(and in case that isn’t hard enough, i’m giving you 3 minutes, tops. :) )
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 11, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I could do that in 3 minutes
But I am not home right now I am at my wife’s office. So I don’t have direct access to the data.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
If there ever was a day to be in your mother’s basement, it’s today.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pulitzer for battlekow
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 11, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you graph his '07 curves vs his '08 curves?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and get me a venti americano when you get a chance, k?
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hiredixieflatline.com
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah actually I made that for every pitcher last night
But it is on my home computer. I’ll try to post that later today.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Cardinals outfielders must have really short legs
They all look like they’re running really fast.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know that wasn't exactly a hot shot
But it seems like Rickie might be turning things around. Then again, I guess no where to go but up.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
bullpen better get ready to work
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on May 11, 2008 2:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WHIP it!
WHIP it good!
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
Not sure Fielder should have cut that ball off.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well Pujols was an auto out
Not sure if they get the guy at home or not. I think it is probably at least a close decision.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pujols in a rundown
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Braun gets the run back just like that
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
here's an odd coincidence
if you figure the “defensive positions” are C/2B/SS/CF and the offensive positions are 1B/3B/LF/RF, the traditional scoring numbers split them up into evens (2468) and odds (3579).
Doesn’t work when you include pitcher (1) and DH (10) though.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 11, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Braun is starting to get on track
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 11, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Off topic
But I cannot stand that “untracked” has become a neologism. It doesn’t even make sense. If you were “untracked”, it would mean you were “off the track”, which is the opposite of “on track”. Bah.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Weaver's start is beginning now
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fielder swingin au natural again
(the Dillon bat)
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel like he has a different bat everytime up
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 11, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more thing about Gagne's change
Here is the 2007 data:
And here is the 2008 data:
Now the 2008 data isn’t corrected but look at how the 2007 change is pretty close to the the fastball. That means the spin on the two pitches were similar. That doesn’t look like what is going on in the 2008 data. The pitch is moving more horizontally and doesn’t nearly have the same vertical movement. I wonder if he is tipping that pitch? Something to check out next week.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
aha!
"It’s very simple," Yost said. "I’m not going to tell you and I’m not going into it because it’s nobody’s real business. Plus I don’t want to let anybody know in case the opposing team sees it, but it’s a simple adjustment that we think can get him back on track."
Sucker. Guess nedder doesn’t know we have dixie working for us.
by sheeter on May 11, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes I wonder if what I see is what they see
I actually hope very much that they are at least looking at this data. It really is a gold mine and the analysis is only going to get better.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC that was what the Boston staff wondered
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
numbers only?
there is a human element to closing out baseball games that charts and numbers cannot quantify. adrenaline, emotion and confidence have as much to do with it as the numbers do.
booyakasha!
by b3nihana on May 11, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Brian
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anderson, our current font of Conventional Wisdom
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trenni
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ned hangs up on his mom
when she telephones and complains about his management?
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 2:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see the Cardinals looking like idiots on the bases
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey that is our job!
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perfect first for Weaver
One strikeout
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Nimble around the bag!
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what the hell?
why’d fielder move?
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, I see
the throw pulled him off.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick inning
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So is Sheets our only all star this year?
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree only one Brewer
but could it be Prince, simply on reputation?
Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay
by verno329 on May 11, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone realize Yadi Molina has a higher OPS than Kendall?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're setting up for another Kendall squeeze
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh, that was weird
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been wondering
What do you think the % of the Crew’s hits come with 2 outs?
Lordz Of Vengeance....Just Win, Baby.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 11, 2008 2:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Diamondbacks up 1-0 on the Cubs
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Typical waste of a LO double. Thanks for not bunting JJ over.
by Flag Up on May 11, 2008 2:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
rot in hell, trenny
this adds nothing to the broadcast
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 2:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
probably wouldn't blame her
was probably the producer/director’s idea, and bill’s mom is nice, but not that great of an interview.
by andrew_p on May 11, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
she's just the symptom of a larger problem
broadcasts are doing whatever they can to avoid actual coverage of the game. They don’t even try to call the action during those segments now.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, uh, Weaver has walked the first three batters so far in the second inning
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Setting up
the Quadruple-Play, obviously.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on May 11, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After 48 pitches in the first two innings
Suppan has really settled down. Getting some easy grounders and now at 84 though 5. Looks like he will get a chance to go out for the 6th at least.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Get up, get outta here, BRAUN!
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
Braun really crushing it today
by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looper at 80 pitches, maybe getting a little tired
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
His last two starts were 114 pitches
And those were his only two starts above 100 pitches. So maybe that it affecting him as well.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check out the second inning for Weaver
- Andy LaRoche walks.
- With Kevin Howard batting, passed ball by Eric Munson, Andy LaRoche to 2nd.
- With Kevin Howard batting, wild pitch by Jeff Weaver, Andy LaRoche to 3rd.
- Kevin Howard walks.
- Jason Repko walks. Kevin Howard to 2nd.
- Coaching visit to mound.
- John-Ford Griffin out on a sacrifice fly to right fielder Brendan Katin. Andy LaRoche scores. Kevin Howard to 3rd. Jason Repko to 2nd.
- Kelly Gulledge strikes out swinging.
- Jason Johnson strikes out.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason Repko
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This just in
That Pujol guy is pretty good. I wonder if he would be even better if his elbow wasn’t so messed up.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Simmons
either doing a Yoda imitation or showing signs of narcolepsy
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Big strikeout there
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sweet double play
That was a much better Mother’s Day present than his meaningless HR last year.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was great
Especially after the shot of Pujols laughing at something two pitches earlier, after Duncan’s hit.
by oconnobe on May 11, 2008 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So time to play manager
4-1 bottom of the 6th. Pitcher’s spot due up 3rd in the inning. Suppan is at 94 pitches. Do you pull him here or let him start the 7th. Bottom part of the Cardinal order but there will certainly be a pinch hitter for their pitcher if not a double switch before that.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry 98 pitches
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
anybody gets on,
pinch hit. otherwise, swing away
by somethingvague on May 11, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if the first two guys get out let him swing and come back out with a short leash
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 11, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
althought I get the feeling even if hardy gets on here
Yost will still have him hitting
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 11, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 11, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I pinch hit here
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we have the worst manager in baseball
by somethingvague on May 11, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't been following the Reds
but I looked at the standing in the sidebar and was kind of taken aback.
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When we have played them he made some real head scratchers
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He left Volquez in an inning too long in a blowout the other day
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what they will say as Billy comes up to hit
“How many times do you see a guy make a great play in the field then follow it up with a big hit??”
by somethingvague on May 11, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Brewers look like real baseball players today
This is fun.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hit and run?
Okay…
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hardy's on 2nd, right?
if not, how the hell did that happen?
by somethingvague on May 11, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hit and run with Suppan
swinging bunt
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think JJ can keep drilling them to right? I am gonna hope. If he can, he is an honest 20 home run threat (because he will actually get a pitch inside).
by Braunstalker on May 11, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's something he must be very consciously working on
because he was so pull-heavy in the past.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not arguing for or against it
Just saying that for him to being taking the ball the other way so much, he must be making a conscious effort.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah you are right
That might be something else to look at now that they are adding the result of the ball in play with their PITCHf/x stuff.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
that if he is trying not to pull the ball, it is not good. If he is just reacting to outside pitches better, that is.
by Braunstalker on May 11, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we get on hitter from soup... and now an infield hit
by Flag Up on May 11, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LaRue even
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great play by Hardy
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LaRue with the kamikaze slide
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doing
some juggling tricks with that ball.
by Braunstalker on May 11, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All those cubs fans packed in wrigley all wet and cold warms my heart says Jim
by Flag Up on May 11, 2008 3:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and the “bullpen” or in their case, bench pitchers
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2-1 Cubs after a D-Lee homer
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prince is like, make all the high, off-center, lollipop throws you want
Just don’t throw them in the dirt.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Really nice defensive inning
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
110 pitches for Suppan
Lowered his ERA to 4.66 with this game. Crazy though six hits and five walks and only one run.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who would have thought he'd go 7 IP, 1 ER after the first couple innings?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony!
That’s the longest ball you’ll ever hit.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I almost just lost 50 bucks
I wish I had.
by Braunstalker on May 11, 2008 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mota, Riske, Torres
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 3:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ned says Riske
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want either of those guys facing Pujols
Even with the bases empty. So I don’t think I was use either of them there.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh Pujols - left knee - arm - hammy - et cetera ad infinitum
Its a miracle he can play. /sarcasm
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 3:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Weaver through four innings
0 H, 1 ER, 4 BB, 5 K
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Once again, the real save occurs in the eighth inning
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mota was up, I imagine he gets the call.
by Flag Up on May 11, 2008 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if that is tracked by anyone
What is the conventional wisdom? Getting warmed up is the rough equivalent of an appearance? Something like that.
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anyone is publishing that data
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it does
You have to wonder how much extra that does take out of our stadd.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why we hired Trenni
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hall
any pink bats left after breaking the last one?
by oconnobe on May 11, 2008 3:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he even touched home originally
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
snakes tied it up
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Second and third, one out
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bases loaded now
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3-2
Conor Jackson walked on a full count.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walks Justin Upton
4-2 Snakes.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drew pops to short
Two out now
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reynolds flied out to the track
Inning over.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was bizarre!
Billy comes through again on Mom’s Day.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Duncan makes Braun look like a gold glover.
by oconnobe on May 11, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hart brough it back!
That was great.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks even more impressive upon viewing the replay
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yahoo has Hardy with an RBI on that "double"
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That won't last.
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a nice curve he just threw though
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan not Ankiel
by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good range from Rickie
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Weaver's imploded
Four runs so far in the fifth.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Out of the game
Final line: 4.7 IP, 4 H, 5 ER. 4 BB, 6 K, 1 HR
Dave Bush can do that.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if he was thinking, “hey they ned someone in the bigs.”
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shouse in for the save now?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Molina and not Ankiel?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Guess that worked
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am strangely calm
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sweep the leg...
Doug, please fire Ned.
Love,
Everyone.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 11, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Yes yes yes yes.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ambivalent
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So McClung and Gagne are the only relievers
who didn’t appear or warm-up? Who am I forgetting?
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure he warmed up – how much that wears a guy out, I can’t say
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm switching over to WGN
Anyone else who feels like hanging around is welcome to cheer on Arizona with me.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How much more hateable does Soto's facial hair make him?
I say at least 100%.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 4:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
more #22
that drag bunt wouldve been a hit against most pitchers, and he has a great eye at the plate.
booyakasha!
by b3nihana on May 11, 2008 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looper was wild
Gwynn’s eye isn’t bad, but I don’t think I’d call it great.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good/great
he seems comfortable with two strikes, and rarely strikes out.
booyakasha!
by b3nihana on May 11, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
neither does Jhonny Estrada
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
by Jordan M on May 11, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have Jonathan Sanchez on my fantasy team
He just walked Adam Eaton with the bases loaded. Thanks, Jonny.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 4:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My favorite bases-loaded walk.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you should do a phone interview with Don Money for BCB
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd actually like to start doing some interviews again
I’ll look into it.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You seem as informed as anyone around here and it does seem like an intense concentration of talent there. Money looks like he would be a character.
I wonder if Huntsville would beat Nashville.
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony Romo is a Cubs fan?
That sucks. Burlington is in Wisconsin, dude.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 4:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's a douche now.
i used to be a fan of the guy.
booyakasha!
by b3nihana on May 11, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fontenot cheating with a small strike zone
Some team should hire a midget and see what happens.
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Gaedel
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eddie Gaedel was under strict orders not to attempt to move the bat off his shoulder. When Gaedel had hinted to Veeck that he might be tempted to swing at a pitch, the owner promised to bring a rifle to the game and shoot him if he tried. Tigers catcher Bob Swift offered his pitcher a piece of strategy: “Keep it low.”
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit
Reed Johnson just tied the game.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 4:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Howard just hit a triple
Frank Thomas hit one earlier this year too. I guess neither is as weird as Prince’s inside-the-parker last year though.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Huntsville takes a 2-0 lead
Chris Errecart with a two-run jack.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Seems pretty strange to be seeing a pitcher for the third time already
It’d be nice to keep the hitting going against Wainwright tomorrow
by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LaPorta walks
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 4:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Intentional walk now?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Daryle Ward with a two-run double
On the bright side, Cole Gillespie just hit a three-run homer.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way, the Stars are facing Cubs semi-prospect Donnie Veal
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs win
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 11, 2008 5:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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|---|---|---|---|---|---|
St. Louis
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91 | 71 | .561 | 0 | Lost 6 |
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Chicago
|
83 | 78 | .515 | 7.5 | Lost 1 |
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Milwaukee
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80 | 82 | .493 | 11 | Won 3 |
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Cincinnati
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78 | 84 | .481 | 13 | Won 2 |
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Houston
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74 | 88 | .456 | 17 | Lost 3 |
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62 | 99 | .385 | 28.5 | Lost 2 |
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