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Game Thread #37: Cardinals (23-15) at Brewers (17-19)

Mordecai_brown_tiny by Jeff Sackmann on in Game Threads

Playing the Cardinals is starting to feel like a baseball version of the South Park "Imaginationland" episodes.  You think it's ridiculous that a world exists with only middle relievers, yet it somehow seems to function and even, occasionally, triumph.

Today's matchup is Braden Looper against Jeff Suppan.  Here's the BR Game Preview.   Looper dominated us last month, but back in September, it was a different story.

Game time: 1:05 CT.

Go Brewers!

 

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Bill Hall will go 5 for 5 with 5 home runs

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by jihad on May 11, 2008 11:23 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Is there going to be a Sunday lineup?

It might be kind of a welcome change today. The team is pretty tense, and maybe a Tony Gwynn sighting would be nice.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 11:24 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Good call!

2B Rickie Weeks
CF Tony Gwynn Jr
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
RF Corey Hart
3B Bill Hall
SS JJ Hardy
P Jeff Suppan
C Jason Kendall

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by jihad on May 11, 2008 11:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

3 children of major leaguers in the lineup

That’s gotta be some kind of good luck.

Ya know….they could have 4 sons of major leaguers if they were to sign Bonds. ducks

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 11:27 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Think Bonds could pitch?

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by jihad on May 11, 2008 11:28 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yes

With enough Roids and HGH he can do anything! ANYTHING!

by SgtClueLs on May 11, 2008 11:29 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i dunno

If we were allowed roids and HGH, then Turnbow, Cameron and Mota would all be top closers.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 11:33 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

don't forget Gagne

with HGH he was lights out

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on May 11, 2008 1:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I meant Gagne

Don’t know why I typed Cameron there.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

He's excused

Please excuse TheJay from today’s blog. He has a good excuse. He graduates from college this afternoon.

TheJay’s Dad

by statsllc on May 11, 2008 11:36 AM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Congrats, TheJay!

It must be a UWM graduation. It always seems to rain on UWM graduation day.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 11:39 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I don't know...

we really need him here!

seriously, congrats. it’s way more gratifying to spend your free time crunching obscure baseball numbers with a college degree. I should know!

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 11, 2008 11:43 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

congrats

this officially makes TheJay eligible for this year’s draft. how’s his fastball?

"You guys know me. I take a long time to analyze things."
- Ned Yost

by SunglassesAtNight on May 11, 2008 12:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Thank you everyone (I didn't hear about this post until today)

I could probably be outpitched by a T-ball stand, so don’t go drafting me yet.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on May 12, 2008 3:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

congrats TheJay!

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on May 11, 2008 1:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hmmmm
Yost also said the staff has a handle on why Gagne has struggled and blown three of his last six save chances. He didn’t reveal what the mechanical flaw was in case s

“It’s very simple,” Yost said. “I’m not going to tell you and I’m not going into it because it’s nobody’s real business. Plus I don’t want to let anybody know in case the opposing team sees it, but it’s a simple adjustment that we think can get him back on track.”

The closer role will now be filled by the entire bullpen, and Yost said it might be as many as three pitchers in the ninth inning if the opposing team’s lineup dictates such moves.

I hope he’s not lying about the adjustment, though he probably is. I’m glad he didn’t proclaim that Mota is the closer or whatever.

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by jihad on May 11, 2008 12:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I love it
Yost also said the staff has a handle on why Gagne has struggled and blown three of his last six save chances. He didn’t reveal what the mechanical flaw was in case s[sic]

Gagne says it’s a mental issue. Yost says it’s a mechanical issue. Kinda similar to what La Russa came out with. It cracks me up because everything can be said to be a mechanical issue. Whether it’s in his head, or if he simply can’t get the ball to go where he wants, in the end pitching is all about throwing a ball in the correct place, with the correct spin. So, really, it’s just a nice way to say nothing, while reassuring the press that they’re doing something.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

yikes

I guess the div blockquote tag doesn’t work any more

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

yeah

the comments are weird.

You can use the quote mark icon between the subject line and comment box.

Or use the right arrow (”>”) in front of a line or two of text, and it automatically gives you the box.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 11, 2008 12:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Good stuff

Ned made another good decision, whether the Moustache strongly encouraged it or not. It appears as if Nedly knows his job may be on the line. Hopefully Gagne can get some work pitching middle relief and get his confidence back.

by molitorfan on May 11, 2008 12:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

any mlb.tv premium people out there?

The 800k stream always works fine for me, but I’ve never managed to get the 1.2 megabit stream. Anyone else see that?

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:12 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Hey Marty,

Are you using Vista? Apparently there have been a lot of trouble with that and Vista.

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by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 12:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

This is on Mac OS X

I can’t remember if I tried it on an XP computer or not….definitely no Vista to worry about.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i use mac os x and have mlbtv

i have had no problems with the 1.2 mb…except for like two times when it wasn’t there at all. i have no idea why that’d happened for you…that sucks, cause 1.2 really does look better.

and go mac! :)

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 11, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

hrmph

I may need to look into this. Both of my macs do it, and one is leopard, one is tiger.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

is it possible that you didn't pay for the premium version?

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 11, 2008 1:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i should have clarified

do you even see the 1.2 mb option? and is so and you click on it, what happens?

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 11, 2008 1:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Oh, I paid for premium

And I have no trouble with the 800. It’s just that when I click on 1.2, I get a blank screen, like the silverlight plugin never gets the stream.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

No IE on the mac

But I did just try in safari, and that works. Guess I’ll use that when watching games.

Thanks for the help, guys.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hey Jeff

If I’m watching a Mets game on mlb.tv, and it shows as being broadcast on CW11, does that mean the insufferable dumbass doing color commentary is Keith Hernandez?

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:21 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

TBS game

Ron Darling is doing that game and I think he usually is on the Mets’ broadcasts as well

by molitorfan on May 11, 2008 12:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

The play-by-play guy is awesome, too

Just pointed out that the Reds got Cueto from Texas in the trade for JOEY Hamilton.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

even the Mets' broadcasters

are subject to the Sunday lineup effect

by molitorfan on May 11, 2008 12:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It's all good

The mets are jumping all over Cueto early.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

beats me

I don’t have a TV. I don’t think I’ve watched a mets game on TV for more than a year.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 11, 2008 12:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

that's good

Don’t ask anyone to turn up the volume at the bar, either. These guys are terrible. They may even give the Cardinals guys a run for their money.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I've been gone for a bit but in case this hasn't been reported elsewhere

Gagne is out as closer and Ned says they are going to go to closer by committee.

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by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 12:49 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

uh oh

I think the Brewers need someone to start working on message control. Trenny just said that the scheduled meeting to evaluate the team is something that the team does every year, about 4 – 5 weeks into the season. In an article in the JS this morning, Yost said it was previously scheduled because they decided after last year that they’d start having monthly meeting to evaluate the team.

My standard disclaimer applies. They are under no obligation to tell us anything, but why bother to lie about it? Either don’t say anything, or at least have the decency to coordinate the lies they tell the media.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 12:59 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Because lying is fun

And maybe they both were telling the truth to the reporters it is just that Doug lied to Ned and then Ned told that lie to the JS.

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by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

ha

That would suck to be Ned. “What? They’ve been meeting to evaluate the team every year at this time, and they only now invited me?”

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ha, stupid cardinals

Even I know better than to accessorize pink with red

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:08 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

according to mlb.gameday

suppan has hit pujols 4 times this at bat. Are his pitches really that far inside?

"My plan is my plan," Yost said.

by TAPmoney on May 11, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

No

They are a bit inside though

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by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

MLB gameday uses the PITCHf/x data

Which really isn’t to be trusted until corrections are made. That said, it usually is pretty accurate near home plate so that is a bit of a surprise.

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by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I thought that was the stuff

you said was accurate to within half an inch (or something like that)

by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 1:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It was last year

I haven’t run the numbers yet this year. If that has changed that will be a beast to correct.

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by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i've gotten in the habit of watching it along with the strike/BB calls

and almost all the time when observing the video doesn’t look like the umpires call, the gameday will agree with the umpire.

by ol Pete on May 11, 2008 1:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Sweet

I love when my internet connection takes a dump on my chest

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 11, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

wow

They had Pujols picked off and then Rickie almost blew the rundown. Hardy bailed him out

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:17 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Interesting because we got the out

If Hardy was there I don’t think interesting would be the word I would use.

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by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

maybe

FSN coverage being what it is, we haven’t seen much of it :)

Pujols was about halfway, so he must have been going

by Marty McSuperFly on May 11, 2008 1:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

didn't fsn...

show/announce yesterday that they have brought on a new producer? They didn’t say much about it, but I imagine the guy/girl who couldn’t pick the right camera 50% of the time got canned. Hopefully the brought someone better on….and we’ll actually get to see >70% of the game

"My plan is my plan," Yost said.

by TAPmoney on May 11, 2008 1:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i really like the lineup a lot more

with gwynn batting second

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by Michael M on May 11, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Ok middle of the order here

It sure would be nice to have a lead. It was two series ago since we have had the lead kind of.

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by dixieflatline on May 11, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Braun

liked that first pitch

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