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Game Thread #38: Cardinals (23-16) at Brewers (18-19)

It's Adam Wainwright vs. Dave Bush.  For more than you ever wanted to know about where Bush is at right now, just scroll down.  For a whole bunch of matchups, here's the BR Game Preview.  For instance, Pujols has a .490 career OPS against Bush, which may have something to do with why LaRussa is saving him for, oh, I don't know, a pinch-hit AB against Torres.  1.083 OPS in 28 plate appearances.  Maybe, uh, Bush will throw a complete game.

Game time is 7:05, and it's the last time this year the Cardinals will play in Miller Park, at least until the NLCS.

Go Brewers!

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So, since Gagne remove himself from the closer role, does that mean he decides when it’s his again?

Some bonus commentary from the fine people over at some blog you probably don’t read: http://www.walkoffwalk.com/2008/05/eric-gagne-the-wow-true-hollyw.html

by Marty McSuperFly on May 12, 2008 6:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And still more preview material

In case it hadn’t been obvious before, I do not believe that Ned Yost is the worst manager in baseball. That honor goes to Dusty Baker, whose team is finding all kinds of ways to embarrass itself.

http://www.walkoffwalk.com/2008/05/reds-bat-out-of-order.html

by Marty McSuperFly on May 12, 2008 6:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There is bad and then there is Dusty bad

I wonder how long Jocketty will put up with that.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on May 12, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love it
So basically, Corey Patterson recorded an out without even setting foot in the batters box. Walkoff Walk’s favorite target of derision is simply finding new ways to make outs every day! He’s a Renaissance man of out-making!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dusty even confounded Gameday

It shows Patterson lining out to right field, which is pretty much the worst way to describe what happened.

by Zeyes on May 12, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patterson was officially charged with a putout to catcher

There’s some good trivia.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard

“ya know guys…after realizing how boring it was to sit in turnbow’s spot in the bullpen, i think i’d like to try it again. I mean I know it’s only been one day, but I’m tellin’ ya, I had one hell of a day!”

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 12, 2008 6:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I would love to see

the training montage of Gagne getting his confidence back over the course of 24 hours. Must’ve added ‘Eye of the Tiger’ to his iPod.

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on May 12, 2008 6:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Whats the Canadian equivalent to 'Eye of the Tiger'?

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on May 12, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

God I hope not

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on May 12, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh bush

you and those hanging curveballs…

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 12, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nah

bush can’t even find the strike zone

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 12, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I've been sensitized by the little woman's love of double entendres

She doesn’t really watch much sports, but I have it on a lot. There will be somethnig like bball on and an announcer will say something like “they need to penetrate more” and she’ll agree in a wry way.

by ol Pete on May 12, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 12, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh great

Here we go again.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

love it

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on May 12, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

over at vivaelbirdos

There was a fair amount of negativity about Ankiel.

by ol Pete on May 12, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not anymore

That was a moonshot.

by ryan braun on May 12, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope that was just a one pitch mistake

And Bush settles down now!

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cubs up 1-0

Theriot scores on a D Lee double

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 7:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i thought that one would hit berny

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 12, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Touchdown!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

not a lot of ambiguity

when he gets all of it, huh?

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 12, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

even his bat is cocky

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 12, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's got wood

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

<3

he loves his mom a LOT

by warwick5s on May 12, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That Braun guy might be pretty good someday

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 12, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Would have been nice

If the two knuckleheads before him in the line up bothered to get on base.

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 12, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Trenni digs the longball

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

she prefers the long pink bat and takes the two balls that come with it.

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 12, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, the Adam Dunn approach

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not Prince

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 12, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's 8 home runs ahead of last years pace

Just for everyone that is down on his slow start.

by Getting Yosted on May 12, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gagne, Villy, Parra, Bulldog

All have mechanical things to correct?

by ol Pete on May 12, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nowhere close to Charlie Gehringer though.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gehringer was given the nickname “The Mechanical Man” by Yankee pitcher Lefty Gomez. Teammate Doc Cramer quipped: “You wind him up Opening Day and forget him.”

I still want someone to put a midget on a roster.

by ol Pete on May 12, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone know how to throw the ball?

I guess they don’t want to say what it is to give it away to other teams..

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice gamble by Prince

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

saved a run

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 12, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

In reporting the Moustache/Neddy Ballgame meeting, Yost says that they found “mechanical flaws” in the deliveries of Bush, Villanueva, and Manny Parra, yet he would not say what they were. With Bush, Trenni says they wouldn’t elaborate, but that they saw “something a little bit” and he’s going to make an adjustment.

Oh, and that there’s a “light at the end of the tunnel.”

Do they lower the microphone in these interviews to make it easier for Ned to talk out of his butt?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 12, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

his butt is intimidated by microphones

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 12, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't doubt it

I wonder when Ned revealed that the found all these mechanical flaws - before or after Moustache said “give me one reason why you should keep your job.”

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 12, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Saw something a little bit"

Maybe they should make the hole bigger.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to give anything away here

But the solution to these problems is called “The Surge.”

by Marty McSuperFly on May 12, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure how to relate that to the earlier discussion of Bush mechanics

As I recall, he took a shot at Maddux saying that he had tried to adjust his mechanics and was going back to the way he did it before.

by ol Pete on May 12, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bush vs. the world

From the mlb.com recap:

Bush threw 92 pitches, 59 of them strikes, and pounded the inner half of the plate. That marked a bit of a departure from the philosophy espoused by Yost and other coaches - to own the low-and-away strike and work from there - and more of a return to the way Bush worked when he joined the Brewers for the 2006 season.


Bush has downplayed that philosophical difference, but he has been working on the adjustment for some time. He first mentioned it on April 15, after he surrendered three runs in six innings of a loss to the Cardinals at Busch Stadium.


“I like staying on the attack to both sides of the plate, and I felt like there were times that we were encouraged not to,” Bush said. “It’s something we’ve talked about as a staff and with the coaches, as far as taking maybe a slightly different approach after the game. I think the last couple of days we have done that and had good results.”


Said Yost: “His strength is really inside, and I think we’ve been trying to get him to command the outside part of the plate a little bit more than he was comfortable with. It opened up his game today.”

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 13, 2008 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

brewers have been hitting a lot of pop ups lately

not just today it seems…

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 12, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They're always

lazy fly balls that don’t mean anything and are easier outs than a dribbler to the pitcher.

by ryan braun on May 12, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Brewers are above average OPS-wise on groundballs, liners, and bunts, but they have an execrable 78 sOPS+ (78% of league-average) on fly balls.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

which basically means the homeruns from last year

are now pop outs or liners?

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 12, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didn't word that well, but i think you know what i'm saying

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 12, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What'dya say!

Yadier Molina has some competition at catcher.

by ryan braun on May 12, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i thought so too

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 12, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too

but I’ll take it.

by andrew_p on May 12, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

*boostING

The way I wrote it is possibly the nerdiest sentence yet uttered by man.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thought sveum would send bush there

;)

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 12, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bush didn't tag...

Uh, Dave? You know you’re gonna give up some more runs, right?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i blame sveum on that one

he’s gotta tell bush to get back and tag…bush isn’t used to being out there

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 12, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He was screaming at him

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

i stand corrected then

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 12, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was hollering something

by ol Pete on May 12, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Bush'll score on that

They are rocking the Wagonmaker.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

In this entire homestand he hasn’t struck out yet, but with swings like that he will

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take the bet now

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Huntsville's hit four homers already

Including one by…Alcides Escobar?

In other news, Not Gabe Gross still sucks.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gamel is the only Star without a hit so far

He does have a sac fly.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Molina

awesome defensive catcher

by molitorfan on May 12, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Prince

let’s do it.

by molitorfan on May 12, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

as someone's signature says

It’s a good time for Prince’s 6th homerun

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

or would it be his 5th?

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he has 5

that used to be my sig but I removed it during the great losing streak of ‘08.

by molitorfan on May 12, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Beltran wouldn't have swung

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn't get much

meat on that swing ;-D

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 12, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

cant wait

i am 7 seconds behind

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You gotta have Hart!

I love you, man. That is the only thing guaranteed to warm Jeff’s heart-mechanism.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Clutch

The numbers still represent this team hitting well with runners in scoring position, esp Hart

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That was the coolest thing ever!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The RF

has to make that catch and call off the 2B

by molitorfan on May 12, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN used to have something called Boner of the week

I think with references to the male anatomy, they stopped doing it, but that would be a candidate right there

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bill makes a good point

Pujols might have caught that.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll take it!

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm only half paying attention tonight

Nintendo on the ol’ PC tonight.

Lordz Of Vengeance....Just Win, Baby.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 12, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pads take the 2-1 lead

on a solo shot

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

from the Department of Redundancy Department

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time for Ned

to throw at Pujols in retaliation

by molitorfan on May 12, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cuds-Pads tied 1-1 in the fifth

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Er, Cubs

Cuds are what I spit out after battling with the lawn.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Edmonds who?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zambrano another double

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And now a HR

cubs lead 3-2, Soriano getting hot

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gamel gets in on the hit parade with an RBI single

Escobar is 3-4 after going 4-5 yesterday.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I he still batting in the .260s?

Is his BA a concern?

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, he's an okay hitter for average

It’s his secondary skills that are the problem. He doesn’t take walks and doesn’t hit for power, today’s HR notwithstanding. He’s still only 21 though, and with his defense, he only has to hit a little to be a ML-caliber SS.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Braun is locked in

Smells like 2007.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sega NBA Jams

“He’s on Fire”

by molitorfan on May 12, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

so, uh

should we keep him?

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 12, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The core

Braun and Trenni. Everyone else can go.

by molitorfan on May 12, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

let's keep kapler too

he can replace bernie after he retires.

or he can replace kremblas when kremblas joins the mlb staff.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 12, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, Mench is the next Bernie

Only guy with a big enough head.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs

will be in first place by themselves in a couple of hours.

by molitorfan on May 12, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Braun is now 9-15 with 4 HR and 2 2B this series.

Oh, and a walk.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, a walk…

by ol Pete on May 12, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goodbye Tony!

Now Ned wont put the squeeze on to impress him

by Scooter82 on May 12, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Randy Wolf

- C. Zambrano doubled to deep right center
- A. Soriano homered to deep center, C. Zambrano scored
- R. Theriot walked
- D. Lee singled to left, R. Theriot to second
- A. Ramirez singled to right center, R. Theriot scored, D. Lee to third
- K. Fukudome walked, A. Ramirez to second
- G. Soto singled to center, D. Lee and A. Ramirez scored, K. Fukudome to second
- S. Henn relieved R. Wolf
- M. DeRosa singled to shallow left, K. Fukudome scored, G. Soto to second

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the ump look like the enticed Molina

Why did he walk in front of the plate, I thought he was going to clean off the plate, but he was just getting in Molina’s face it looked like… the ump might get punished for that, and what I think LaRussa was mad about

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cliff Lee

9 scoreless innings and a no decision. His season ERA is .67, which isn’t too bad.

by molitorfan on May 12, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good, I recommended him in my article this week

Confession: I also touted Wainwright and told people to stay away from Dave Bush.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man would it be sweet

if Bush could get thru the 6th unscathed

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on May 12, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Even scathed is okay

Just not scalded or scorched.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yadier appearing nightly

Quite the sexy dress-down there Yadi…

hehehe

by Lake County on May 12, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's a question:

What sweet-pitching demon is currently occupying Dave Bush’s body?

Holy smokes. I know Pujols is on the bench, but…

GO DAVE GO!

Doug, please fire Ned.

Love,
Everyone.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 12, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he read my article

he understands his destiny, and now he will fulfill it. (after giving up two more runs, anyway)

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 12, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait a second...

i haven’t been able to watch too closely. molina was batting second? weird.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 12, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No, they screwed up

Corey Patterson got ejected.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish

Dusty was still managing the Cubs and Tice was still coaching the Vikings.

by molitorfan on May 12, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

those were good times

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on May 12, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow...

if we had polled everybody in this thread after the double, who would’ve guessed larue would be stranded?

not me…i figured run #2 was foregone conclusion.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 12, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I am guilty also

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

count me among those who figured he had already crossed the plate when he reached second

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on May 12, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coco on for the Reds

8-7 against the Marlins in the 9th.

by molitorfan on May 12, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

on the radio today

The big dorky unit said that Coco was unhappy about the way he was used last year. I wonder what he means. I hadn’t heard that.

by ol Pete on May 12, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW!

This could be comical if the Brewers lost

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

comical-horrifyingly painful either or I guess

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on May 12, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read Molina's lips

And at one point, he said “I had my back to you”... so I think he was so upset that the ump came around to face him

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can see that complaint.

Though to be fair, when the ump first moved around in front of Molina, he appeared to be headed towards dusting off the plate… but then he stood up and confronted Molina instead. Who knows if Molina kept jawing just before then…

Doug, please fire Ned.

Love,
Everyone.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 12, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm suprised

Wainright is still in there

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on May 12, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like BS is right...

LaRussa’s going to leave him flop around out there to save the pen…

Doug, please fire Ned.

Love,
Everyone.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 12, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was only at 74 pitches coming into the inning

Not like the Cards are in realistic danger of winning the game or anything.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gagne gonna get a Turnbow inning in

Hopefully he makes better use of it than Turnbow did.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

bush only at 92 pitches

wouldn’t this be a nice rest game for the bullpen?

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on May 12, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

definitely

lets take our quality start and be happy

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on May 12, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agreed

but it wouldn’t hurt to at least trot him out there with a quick hook

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on May 12, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

let Gagne throw

and then bring in McClung to clean it up

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on May 12, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh

he might be fine, but three innings is doable for the pen, and its nice to get to pull bush without two runners on base. at least this once.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 12, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're overworked!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shannon Stewart gets it done with a sac fly

Man, Overbay’s power is completely gone this year.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oooooooooooooverbay....

Doug, please fire Ned.

Love,
Everyone.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 12, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ew. Did anyone hit him?

Doug, please fire Ned.

Love,
Everyone.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 12, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, this was the Turner Ward Era

He and I were the only people there.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahaha

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on May 12, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha

Doug, please fire Ned.

Love,
Everyone.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 12, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quite depressing

6-1
12-0
3-0
and this game was scoreless until the 10th.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

the Indians got 18 innings of scoreless pitching from their starters today. And they are only going to get one win.

by molitorfan on May 12, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's hoping Maddux did as good a job finding Gagne's delivery flaw...

... as Ned will claim Maddux did on Bush. Hell, it might even be true. I could stand that.

Doug, please fire Ned.

Love,
Everyone.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 12, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oi.

Doug, please fire Ned.

Love,
Everyone.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 12, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1-0 count

means the batters are going to be batting well over .400

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maddux should go clean shaven

the pitching staff would be freaked

by ol Pete on May 12, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

already getting booed

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by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why boo? Why not yell encouragement?

by ol Pete on May 12, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gagne for the three inning save?

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on May 12, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He did declare himself fit to close today

I would be very amused if Ned did that.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe!

If he has an efficient 8th

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs

are as hot as Braun. 11 runs in 2 innings after a weekend sweep of the Snakes.

by molitorfan on May 12, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Danny Kolb makes an appearance as well

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by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been wondering...

first series ever during which both teams dumped their closer?

by Zeyes on May 12, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like Izzy will get in too!

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by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN just announced

Furcal goin on the 15 day DL retro to May 6. Very sore back.

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 12, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't get it

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who do we play tomorrow?

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 12, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is nice to see

him out of the lineup for the next series!

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 12, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

he has been playing great so far this year

by molitorfan on May 12, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

batting .366 so far

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they showed the replay of braun at first

as they went to commercial…

I think he did beat the throw. oh well, probably didn’t really need that baserunner.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 12, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

was braun safe?

looked close, didn’t see the replay finish up, but probably just out

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That looked like a tough pitch to hit by Schumaker

Please LaRue, don’t further damage our “closer.”

by ol Pete on May 12, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The boo birds are back

Come on out Maddux

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

mound conference

Maddux: “Did you forget about the mechanical flaw fix already?”

Gange: “Oh, yeah…”

by sheeter on May 12, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just a simple mechanical thing

Ned obviously doesn’t want Gagne to fix the simple flaw, because then a simple before-and-after analysis would reveal what the flaw had been, and then hitters in the past would be able to use that information to get even more hits off of Gagne. In the past.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 12, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wait

that’s in the past?

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 12, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Biff!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 12, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gagne

Don’t walk the bases loaded…

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you got it

I was wondering if he did whether Pujols would get a PH appearance

by ol Pete on May 12, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The ump was 3 inches from him

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dixie, you out there?

It would be interesting to see those REALLY EXCELLENT charts you posted earlier today with tonight’s data side by side to see if Gagne really made a change.

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 12, 2008 9:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I want to see

Hart at the top of the order!

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 12, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If JJ gets on

I think we should bat Gagne as punishment.

by Stoa on May 12, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just as well

probably would have tripped on those damn clown pants he is wearing!

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 12, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get the pants thing

The pants I think look goofy are Soriano’s. Somewhat homo-erotic.

by ol Pete on May 12, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that would be great

I want to see every reliever on the team bat at least once.

When it’s shouse’s turn, that picture will be my new screensaver.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 12, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As far as I can tell

Shouse has never batted even in the minor leagues. I’m all for a Matt Wisean 1.000 average for him

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 12, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

umm...

so the closer-by-committee approach bad because it is going to make Ned overwork the bullpen by…actually pulling a guy who was brought in to start the 9th in case he can’t get it done? Oookay…

by Zeyes on May 12, 2008 9:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Stetter

I like you, please do not remind me of Wise against Philly.

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 12, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

20,000 fans

rise together in sarcasm.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 12, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

o crap

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 12, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Baseball is stressful enough without Brian and Bill dramatically overdramatizing it

We’re still ahead by five runs. It’s gonna be okay, guys.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 12, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs