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Game Thread #39: Dodgers (19-18) at Brewers (19-19)

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Tonight's win probabilities

vs [My] Dodgers :)

Win probabilities for the Brewers…

Simulator: 52.87%
LV Hilton: 47.62%
AccuScore: 46.20%

vr, Xeifrank

by Xeifrank on May 13, 2008 4:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Win probabilities in my head

With Villy and Penny pitching, I would say the Dodgers have about a 58-60% chance of winning the game based off my FEELINGS…

Whenever I see these simulators, they are all too close to 50% for my liking! What game so far has shown the highest/lowest win probability? Can we just say the Brewers have a 50% chance of winnning most games and when they face an ace it's 45%, and when sheets is pitching we have a 55% chance of winning?

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 13, 2008 4:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I dont know what the hell happened, I must have accidently quoted my last paragraph

Anyway to edit old posts?

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 13, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope.

I hate that.

Lordz Of Vengeance....Just Win, Baby.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 13, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a lock

100% probability that Brian and Rock discuss how you need a guy with “that closer mentality.”

by Marty McSuperFly on May 13, 2008 4:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hitter's count

88% chance that Brian Anderson will point out every single “hitter’s count.”

by Et tu Brewte on May 13, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's some fun

Milwaukee Brewers, 1st 19 games – .244/.329/.388 10 GDP
Milwaukee Brewers, 2nd 19 games – .239/.305/.390 9 GDP

That’s some consistency!

And here’s a guy who has tailed off a little bit, but without much comment from Brian and Rock.

Jason Kendall, 1st 19 games – .345/.400/.483
Jason Kendall, 2nd 19 games – .241/.353/.276

.276 SLG? I didn’t even think that was possible.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 13, 2008 5:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Regression to the median

Kendall’s hot start didn’t get me all juiced up. I knew that he had to start acting like that catcher we saw last year in Chicago. Don’t get me wrong the guy’s 1000% better than Johnny First Pitch Estrada but he’s not going to hit anywhere near .300 this year, at least I don’t think.

by ryan braun on May 13, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the bright side

He is actually throwing out runners at a decent clip. I was really concerned about that but it appears like he won’t be a liability there like he will probably end up at the plate.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't think this worthy of a fanpost or anything but...

I’m curious where people on this site stand with regards to the “need” for a “true closer” on a team, and the thought that without a “true closer” the Brewers are pretty much sunk.

One of the afternoon local talk shows here in Madison was going on and on about how without Gagne pitching like a closer, we’re sunk…like there’s some gene that Gagne has and Mota / Torres / Riske / Stetter don’t…he’s the only one who can go up to the stone at the end of the game and remove excalibur and if he isn’t brave enough to do it the whole kingdom will perish…or something.

It seems to me that this is one thing that the Cubs actually have worked out pretty well…Wood isn’t what I would consider a “true closer” but he’s decent and putting him as closer limits his work, while Marmol does all the heavy lifting.

Thoughts?

by warwick5s on May 13, 2008 6:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ask the Cardinals about their closer

I mean Izzy has sucked and they still are 23-17. It sure is nice to have a shut down closer in the 9th but it isn’t necessary. That said, with the way the Cubs are playing right now we need every win we can get.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's a true closer?

I could see Riske or Torres, but really the team needs them to be middle relievers. Speaking only for myself, Mota scares me.

I’m still hoping that Gagne gets his change working, cuz I’d be shocked as all get out if he isn’t back as closer within a couple weeks.

They ought to find some minor injury and not take him to Boston.

by ol Pete on May 13, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

High leverage is more important

Closer concept is overblown. It’s more about agents and players making more money than it is about the best baseball solution.

by Lake County on May 13, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

from a dodgers forum

For a team that has a $126 mil payroll 6 of tonight’s starters are being paid less than 500k each.

by ol Pete on May 13, 2008 6:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

elsewhere: I’d rather Joe Torre hit lead off than Pierre.

by ol Pete on May 13, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really

Did I just imagine a stat saying Rickie is 2nd in the NL in fielding percentage?

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on May 13, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He did

Rickie is improved but that is why fielding percentage is not a good stat.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff Kent cleanup

That just doesn’t seem like it would lead to a lot of runs.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The one time I miss having Jenkins

He probably turns that hit into an out

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on May 13, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Braun plays really deep

I think a lot of left fielders probably at least have a shot at it. Still he is far better at left than he was at 3rd.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

I won’t be surprised if that’s a play he can make at some point down the road, he does after all have a mere 38 actual games under his belt out there.

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on May 13, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

he should have caught that ball.

by molitorfan on May 13, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugh 1-0 cubs

Soriano with a lead off homer.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 7:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I bet if they lose

That’ll be held up as another example of selfish stats-padding.

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by TheJay on May 13, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now we have

Bigbrad Penny, too!

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by Jordan M on May 13, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

All week?

Are you going to be here all week? Are we supposed to tip our Waitresses? Bazing!

by SgtClueLs on May 13, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pierre in left

Wow, just wow.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It only took Penny eight pitches

Yikes this could be a long (short) evening.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 7:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Villy – 23

by ol Pete on May 13, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but 32 through 2

by ol Pete on May 13, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ned

will make 3 pitching changes in the 9th to stretch out the game

by molitorfan on May 13, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

The P/PA tandem of Weeks & Cameron saw three pitches.

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by TheJay on May 13, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can you also link

to a picture of Trenni?

by molitorfan on May 13, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Gallardo really makes it back in September

I will have to go and buy his jersey due to his anti-sheetiness

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on May 13, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From Fire Joe Morgan's breakdown of a Joe Morgan chat:

and summing up my feelings exactly:

Zach Rastall (Marinette, WI): Hi Joe you’re awesome. What should the Brew Crew do about there horredous relief pitching?

Joe Morgan: There’s not much they can do. They invested a lot of money in Eric Gagne, and if he doesn’t work his way out of his problems, it will be a disaster. It hough they should have re-signed Cordero, but they lost him to Cincinnati. They’ll have to live with that decision. Very few general managers will admit their mistakes. Gagne can turn it around, but who knows?

Here’s the thing, man:

No, actually, here’s the things:

They didn’t invest a lot of money in Gagne, relatively speaking. It’s one year, $10m. Now that’s obviously not cheap, especially for an homme who suces as mal as he does, but they can cut him if they want to and next year, it’s back to the drawing board (in a good way). Frankie Cordero, on the other hand, got $46m for four years from the dumbass Reds. He is 33 years old as of last Sunday, and he has walked 11 guys in 15 IP this year. The Reds are going to be paying this guy $10.5m when he is 36 and on the shelf with his eleventh TJ surgery. (Yeah—eleventh. A lot happens to Cordero in the next few years.) And you think the Brewers should have signed him? And you think they’re having a hard time living with the decision not to?

Gagne stinks, and he’s not their closer anymore. They took a risk on a short-term contract and it didn’t pay off. At least it’s not a hamstringingly bad 4 year deal for a mediocre 33 year-old.


http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2008/05/frempchat.html

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by Jordan M on May 13, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Martin

not a good throw

by molitorfan on May 13, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Billy really does like himself some tobaccy

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on May 13, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hall

made Penny throw more pitches this at bat than he did in the entire 1st inning

by molitorfan on May 13, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

off topic

awhile back there was a video of prince fielder’s inside the park home run in the fanshots…does anyone know where i could find it? i see youtube took it down. thanks.

YoGanna win with Gallardo on the mound.

by Griswald on May 13, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh and...

less bill hall, more russell bryanan. you know you want 3TO back.

YoGanna win with Gallardo on the mound.

by Griswald on May 13, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Three True Outcomes… Nearly 50% of his at bats end in either a Home Run, Walk, or Strike Out.

It’s the Rob Deer School of hitting.

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

I was thinking it was a nickname.

by Lake County on May 13, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, it is… Russell “3T0” Branyan

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 True outcomes

Strike Out, Walk or HR.

by SgtClueLs on May 13, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True outcomes

because fielders have nothing to do with the play

by molitorfan on May 13, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

behind Kendall's head - yipes

He seems to have plenty of control otherwise. Some unknown past melodrama?

by ol Pete on May 13, 2008 7:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What I've learned from the TV crew tonight

Bill Hall is the most productive .199 hitter in MLB.
Rickie Weeks has hit the hardest .187 in MLB.

I wonder what they’ll say about Cameron.

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by TheJay on May 13, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

taking pitches – that’s why we got him.

by ol Pete on May 13, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lots of grit

despite coming up short of Mr Mendoza’s line.

by molitorfan on May 13, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't know

but i sure miss him

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by Michael M on May 13, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

man do i miss vasgersian

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by Michael M on May 13, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ditto

YoGanna win with Gallardo on the mound.

by Griswald on May 13, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Corey Hart

Maybe if he ate more steak that would’ve cleared the fence!

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by TheJay on May 13, 2008 8:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Less steak

And he would’ve made the steal! ;)

by andrew_p on May 13, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steak for brains

stealing third there…ugh

by Lake County on May 13, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Villy's only 21 pitches away

from his pretty reliable MELTDOWN number of 80 pitches. Will Ned be ready for the hook?

by heybatterbatter on May 13, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What was the point of that?

Seriously, Hart one of our fastest players on second and you send him? If Hall singles he’s scoring.

by SgtClueLs on May 13, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cost us a run

And it turns out it costs us a run.

by SgtClueLs on May 13, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and now it costs

by ol Pete on May 13, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice shot

damn caught stealing

by molitorfan on May 13, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Out stealing third, then HR

Say it with me folks:

Saber freaking metrics

by Lake County on May 13, 2008 8:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Penny now over 65 pitches

Maybe we can get some juicy middle relieve.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 8:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So Cappy probably need TJ

You have to wonder if this puts his carrier in jeopardy. He wasn’t throwing nearly as fast after the first surgery and if he losses another couple of MPH it could be too much to overcome.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

I’ve long wanted to study that and if he does come back I will certainly be looking at his data.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

18 Months?

I’m to lazy to google, but if I remember right. They say that a second TJ takes a good 18 – 24 months to fully recover. Think he’ll still be around?

by SgtClueLs on May 13, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's got one big thing going for him

Being left handed, if he could pitch side arm, he can pitch for a Shouse-age.

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The fact that he opted for rehab first

Makes it sound unlikely.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you imagine a drinking game

that was based on Yost shots by FSN. Good grief.

by ol Pete on May 13, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Quick inning there

Despite Villy’s pitch count being low he has really imploded around this time previously this year. If they get a base runner or two next inning I am getting someone up in the pen if I am Yost.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I go to look at gameday and its showing Kendall as the first batter with a man on first.

by ol Pete on May 13, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kendall

Looking exceptionally gritty today.

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 8:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BRAUN

Those times where there was only one set of footprints? That’s when Braun carried you.

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I was thinking the same thing. Fielder would be the guy telling him to slide, right?

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on May 13, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see this Brauny

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on May 13, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Prince

nice hit. Love Pierre’s noodle arm.

by molitorfan on May 13, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Brewers. Brewers.

Keep turnin’ up the heat!

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 13, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

on a Dodger forum they were talking about our bad defense

Someone should tell them that having outfielders who can throw counts for something.

by ol Pete on May 13, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Per BA, all 5 of our runs were with 2 outs. A few years ago, that’d be a season’s worth (more or less).

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 13, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

C.V.

Does it look like he’s tripping on the mound?

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I've noticed that several starts ago

but then it looked like he did it every pitch so I figured it was a part of delivery

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on May 13, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hardy

Nice positioning there.

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and then he misses on the next play.

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Charley Steiner is claiming

that Ned told him Gagne would “probably” be the closer tonight. Being stuck in SoCal, I have to watch the Dodger’s local feed for the game. Have I mentioned how much better Vin Scully is than Charley Steiner?

by Brew Angel on May 13, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who isn't?

Steiner is a moron.

by Lake County on May 13, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although Scully is great

He could add a little silence once in a while. Dude never shuts up.

by Lake County on May 13, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just got back from work and...

we’re getting another good start from someone other than sheets???

by somethingvague on May 13, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know, right?

The last three games have featured the bizarro rotation.

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by TheJay on May 13, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meetings

It’s all because Ned had meetings and detected all of their mechanical flaws.

by molitorfan on May 13, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or...

Maybe it’s because Melvin had meetings with Ned and kept him away from the pitchers for a while. ;)

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by TheJay on May 13, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or

It is because Ned found BCB and dixie showed him the light

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on May 13, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BINGO!

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 13, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little known secret

The team passed through a lightning cloud between Florida and Milwaukee, and have learned how to hit again… but at a price.

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

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by Michael M on May 13, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JJ with a liner to left

long day for Juan Pierre

by ol Pete on May 13, 2008 8:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What's funny is

If it was Adam Dunn or some other lumbering oaf out there, he’d be catching every line drive.

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by TheJay on May 13, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kapler seems to be ice cold...

...since he ran into the wall during BP that day…

by PagsBrewCrew on May 13, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what?

CV can’t bunt?

by PagsBrewCrew on May 13, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

too much grit on that one

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on May 13, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

now comes the fun

our bullpen through 7-8-9

by somethingvague on May 13, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

...make that 8-9

Torres did well with the top of the order there.

by PagsBrewCrew on May 13, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

one down, two to go

think torres comes back out?

by somethingvague on May 13, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Braun

he is locked in right now

by molitorfan on May 13, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That one was a rocket

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on May 13, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

All hail the Brauntasaurus

I’d say he’s back to full speed

by Lake County on May 13, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fielder struggling - walk him

Corey, great with men on – pitch to him

by ol Pete on May 13, 2008 9:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ouch..

i was looking forward to that matchup. I was glad when Prince got the free base.

by PagsBrewCrew on May 13, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So why can't

Weeks and Cameron pick it up like the Brauntasuarus?

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 13, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and Hall

Brewers fan lost in South Carolina.

by SCBrewer on May 13, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Hall does have home runs in consecutive games. I’m sure they don’t count, though.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 13, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they haven't discovered Methamphetamines yet

...did you read what Braun said in an interview? Something about time slowing down when he’s up at bat…seeing the ball for longer. Sounds like he’s just sped up.

In a couple of months, take a look at his face;)

by PagsBrewCrew on May 13, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Simple reason

They don’t have Milwaukee radio show appearances they habitually sleep through.

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by TheJay on May 13, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

I wonder if he’ll actually be on this week…

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden

by kirbir on May 13, 2008 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow this would be a huge win

The Cubs and Cards are both losing 4-3 right now. To potentially pick up a game on both of them while beating Penny would be very nice.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if

Gagne comes in….DAMMIT HE’S WARMING UP!

by iluvlamp on May 13, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

gagne up in the bullpen

ned is such a tool. Not even 2 days without the closer

by Marty McSuperFly on May 13, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

C Loser

that’s funny…...

Personally, I think we got hosed on that one! - Harry Doyle

by reverse24 on May 13, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d like to imagine that Gagne accidentally got that as his license.

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the issue

I know Gagne wants to prove himself and all. But Ned.. get a back bone and smack him down for at least more then 1 mop up duty appearance.

by SgtClueLs on May 13, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

holy ss catch

by iluvlamp on May 13, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

I’m just harboring a lot of resentment and utter hatred towards Gagne right now…...

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by reverse24 on May 13, 2008 9:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So here is why Gagne

Torres already was in and Stetter and Riske warmed. Ned just wanted everyone in the pen to get some action.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this isn't a vegas prostitution house!

it’s the major leagues!

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by Michael M on May 13, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some Gagne Levity

In case you need it.

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ooooh

“Closer’s are a different breed.” That’s pretty close to closer mentality…I’d say the projection has been met.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 13, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Loss of Confidence

Didn’t Gagne even say he just lost confidence and nothing else? This move baffels me, but I hope he gets the save. My fantasy team needs him to get a save!

by SgtClueLs on May 13, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Gagne said he needed a mental break, and Ned said it was a slight mechanical issue.

I’d say that Braun’s confidence is well-founded, and that Gagne’s is a little to the lee side of delusion.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 13, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's Canadian

Isn’t that delusional enough?

by SgtClueLs on May 13, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brian - Gagne has confidence? After a day or two?

Me thinks we are being fed story lines by the Brewers version of the Kremlin

by ol Pete on May 13, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i remember

gagne saying exactly the opposite of what ba just said on fsn. that it was all mental.

by goirish2107 on May 13, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

now would be a good time

for a Kendall home run.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 13, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If gagne comes in

and blows it. Melvin should fire Yost on the spot. This is just fucking ridiculous.

by iluvlamp on May 13, 2008 9:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If he blows a save

he’ll be in an expensive padded room with Matty Wise

by ol Pete on May 13, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just FYI: Wise is a Met again (along with Vargas). Vargas pitches tomorrow.

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And now Mota

Paging Shouse and McClung. Then everyone will have warmed or been in.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gagne has confidence

that Ned is a tool.

And Doug said: “Ned, Gagne’s as good as any of the other jokers, and I want draft picks!”

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 13, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mota warming up as well

I’m guessing Gagne has a really really short leash. I mean really short. I mean really really short.

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on May 13, 2008 9:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Right now

the leash should be hanging in the bullpen with Gagne!

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 13, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem with that

is that if he lets anybody get on, the tying run comes to the plate.

by Brew Angel on May 13, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean

We have warmed up everyone in the pen! I want to kill! kill! kill! Mental break! seeething..

by iluvlamp on May 13, 2008 9:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Big ovation for Gagne

Milwaukee likes guys who admit to sucking.

by Lake County on May 13, 2008 9:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Turnbow continued to be a rockstar for a long time after he began sucking

It took awhile for him to turn heel in everyone’s mind.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 13, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is fsn pumping up the radar gun

97???

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 13, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Apparently his HGH shipment came on Sunday.

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pass the hat

I’ll throw some money in for the next shipment

by molitorfan on May 13, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow--

six different brewers have gotten saves already. that’s crazy.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 13, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Do you stick with him if he walks him?

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on May 13, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That assumes

you were with him when he took the mound!

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 13, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dodger color guy just said

“Gagne should be successful if his changeup is anywhere near as good as it used to be.”

Guess they didn’t read dixie’s analysis

by Brew Angel on May 13, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sadly

nobody but you guys are.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

could you email that to the brewers?

who knows if they’d read it, but it might be worth a shot

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 13, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Send me the email address

And I’ll send them everything.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm looking

battlekow’s suggestions sounds good too.

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 13, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The official site has a lame email option

Click here to send your question or suggestion to the Brewers.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on May 13, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

i was going to link that but i thought it was lame too

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 13, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's probably something simple

Like doug dot melvin at brewers dot com

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by TheJay on May 13, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

doug_melvin@brewers.com

maybe…

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 13, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

question

can gagne throw four strikes in one at bat???

by somethingvague on May 13, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

here we go again

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on May 13, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gagne

If he blows the save, I suspect more than his mental will be broken.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on May 13, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If Gagne blows the save, CV should be allowed to beat him up, and then Sheets (for the Houston game) is next.

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trenni licks her lips

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 13, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

that’s sick and demented! Thanks dude.

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 13, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weird

I just came across that phrase last week in Wired magazine.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 13, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice throw Wickie

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 13, 2008 9:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

weeks saves his bad throws

for important times

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 13, 2008 9:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

aw hell

Now if Gagne blows it, it’ll all be Rickie’s fault

by Marty McSuperFly on May 13, 2008 9:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mark Sweeney?

Ex-Brewer?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 13, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yep

got him for alex ochoa

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 13, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Historians will look back on that move

and say that’s where the Brewers started to turn it around.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 13, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mark "damaged goods" Sweeney

Why doesn’t this guy get booed like Helms?

He did NOTHING that year here.

by Lake County on May 13, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it's a good thing

If the crowd booed him like they boo Helms, he might do well.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on May 13, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so is that like 16/16 now?

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 13, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heheh

“you are the suck”

Too funny

by Lake County on May 13, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

one thing lost in all the bullpen bullshit

How many close games have we been in this year? Seems we’re always up two in the eighth. Have we won by more than three runs ever this year?

by somethingvague on May 13, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Average Margins

AVG Margin of Victory: 2.65
AVG Margin of Loss: 3.53
AVG Margin of Loss without that horrible Cubs game: 2.79

Brewers fan lost in South Carolina.

by SCBrewer on May 13, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a nice changeup

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 13, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oooh

Rickie got rung up on that pitch earlier.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 13, 2008 9:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ooooh that was close

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 13, 2008 9:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

When did we replace Gagne

with Seth Rogen?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 13, 2008 9:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Somebody tell

Andrew the Krispy Cream HOT light is on

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 13, 2008 9:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thankfully Juan Pierre is up after Andruw Jones

I actually laughed when BA said who was coming up next.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 13, 2008 9:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

jeez

Making Jones look like Pujols there

by Marty McSuperFly on May 13, 2008 9:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hugs all around!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 13, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My Fantasy Team Approves

I disagree with Yosts use of Gagne, but my fantasy team will take the Save.

by SgtClueLs on May 13, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BA

Shouse can warm up Very Quickly!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 13, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BA

“As big a save as you can get in the regular season for Eric Gagne.”

Uh…yeah, no.

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by TheJay on May 13, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not small

A meltdown there would be Three Mile Island quality

by Lake County on May 13, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That'll show all you

guys who were demanding that Gagne be pulled after he gave up the leadoff hit.

Oh, wait….

by Brew Angel on May 13, 2008 9:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

great

this just gives more confidence in being a jack ass, ah well, we got the win

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 13, 2008 9:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

*Ned

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 13, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap

I still can’t believe that Ned sent Gagne out there. He is either really stupid or has really big rocks.

by molitorfan on May 13, 2008 9:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what's worse

is that this is positive reinforcement for him that he did the right thing, Gagne’s fixed, etc

by warwick5s on May 13, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you have ever

seen him walk you can answer your own question. Undoubtedly itty bitty!

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 13, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gagne

Clearly he’s just messing with anyone that has him on their fantasy team (in a really really deep league)

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 9:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My league last year

was 18 teams deep.

And I like that team better than my current one. (10 teams)

Lordz Of Vengeance....Just Win, Baby.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 13, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure
And I like that team better than my current one. (10 teams)

given the gaping hole you have at second base. :)

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 13, 2008 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know probably nobody cares

but I’m going to defend myself here during the pitching change. I got a couple snarky “yesterday”s when I asked if we could win a game by more than a run or two. Well, yesterday was the first time since April 6th we won by more than 3 runs (and even then, as Lake County noted), the tying run was in the on deck circle.

/all for one of Mustache Wax’s mental breaks

by somethingvague on May 13, 2008 9:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nothing personal

It’s sometimes hard to pick up the tone on a message board.

by Brew Angel on May 13, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't mean to be snarky

It’s just strange timing on the question considering yesterday. I really wasn’t nervous yesterday.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 13, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gagne Interview

I don’t care what anyone says, Gagne’s a pretty cool dude.

He gets what it’s all about here.

by Lake County on May 13, 2008 9:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i agree with that

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 13, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why?

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 13, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could MLB be any easier on the cubs?

Few interleague games. No games against the red sox or the yankees. And while we play the red sox they get the pirates. That will be nine games against the pirates already. If you think that is a lot they play three more against the pirates the next weekend.

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by dixieflatline on May 13, 2008 10:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fingers Crossed

This means they’ll run out of easy teams to beat up on later in the year right? And it seems like they’ve played a crazy number of home games.

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 13, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh no.

Ned reminds me of W. His press conferences are train wrecks. Just make it stop.

Lordz Of Vengeance....Just Win, Baby.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 13, 2008 10:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

i always think the same thing

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 13, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

except

who is our helen thomas?

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 13, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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