Game Thread #40: Dodgers (19-19) at Brewers (20-19)
Monday: Dave Bush quality start.
Tuesday: Carlos Villanueva quality start.
I don't dare suggest what might follow.
Tonight the matchup is Manny Parra and Derek Lowe. Speaking of matchups, the BR Game Preview tells us something harrowing: Andruw Jones has a career 1.750 OPS against Gagne. Apparently things could've worked out a little differently.
If Yost decides to play with his LaRussa-style index cards, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Counsell start tonight--he's got an .873 OPS in 26 career PAs against Lowe.
Game time is 7:05 Central.
Go Brewers!
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Get yer lineups here!
Looks like we have a few changes, too:
CF Mike Cameron
SS JJ Hardy
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
RF Corey Hart
3B Bill Hall
2B Craig Counsell
P Manny Parra
C Jason Kendall
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 14, 2008 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good job, Jeff
Calling the Counsell start.
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually wrote up the post early this afternoon
since I didn’t know if I’d be home or not … as is, it looks a little less impressive, since the timestamp of this post is after the time stamp of the JS post :).
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 14, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You big faker.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 14, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patience, please
I endorse playing anyone tonight who will lay off the sinkers below the knees that Lowe counts on for all those ground balls he must have in order to win.
by Bay View Brewer on May 14, 2008 5:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And on that note her eis some more good news
It looks like home plate umpire James Hoye doesn’t like the low balls especially to right handed batters
He is a little more forgiving against lefties however
Here are the unshrunk links RHB LHB.So hopefully the crew will be very patient and the umpire will make Lower bring the ball up. On the other hand, Manny seems to work up in the zone a lot especially with his fastball. It appears Hoye likes the high strike so it seems we have the best ump working this game.
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That should be here is some more good news. I can't type.
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too much knowledge?
It’s at times like this that I feel possibly too smart about what’s going on in the game and then start yelling at the TV when guys don’t lay off the low pitches. As if I could do the same.
Thanks for the graphs, dixie. Now I’m prepared to criticize the Brewers hitters.
by Bay View Brewer on May 14, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should download the song "I Can't Get Behind That" by William Shatner
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schizo much?
Wow, just looked up the lyrics to that. Can’t imagine what it sounds like. Is it even possible to finish listening to the whole thing?
by Bay View Brewer on May 14, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
It’s not really a “song” per se, more of a twin rant put to music. They aren’t singing.
“Leaf blowers: is there anything more futile?!” I love it.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It just sounds so crazy
The leaf blowers line was the best. Also, Shatner talking about student drivers.
by Bay View Brewer on May 14, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you give me your email, I'll send it to you
His cover of Pulp’s “Common People” is also fantastically deranged.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other games
Jorge De La Rosa takes his 10.24 ERA to Arizona to face Micah Owings. Chance for another homer by Owings maybe.
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 5:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Leadoff double
To welcome Vargas back to The Show
by nekpinder on May 14, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Some pregame entertainment
I love this guy
by Marty McSuperFly on May 14, 2008 6:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lineup
This is the first time during the Ned Yost era that the lineup is EXACTLY the same one I would be putting out there. Let’s see it turns out…if it’s good, I’ll get some nice satisfaction out of it. :-)
by Tick on May 14, 2008 6:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Projection
2 Ks in the leadoff spot, 1 groundout, 1 fly out. Fans still blame Weeks.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 14, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
... and is promptly blamed for not bunting.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
by Jordan M on May 14, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am pretty surprised we come out so well there
Lowe isn’t off to a great start but he is a very good pitcher and we have had trouble with sinkerballers in the past. They must feel the dodger offense isn’t going to do much. No idea how they generally fair against lefties but maybe they have some problems.
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Eithier for the Dodgers
Pierre and Jones one two in the dodger lineup. As the guy Jeff interviewed points out, torre not making some key decisions.
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 7:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh he's making them
He’s just making the wrong ones.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I guess I left that part out
I have a particularly good feeling about today. Peavy going for the padres against Lilly who hasn’t been great this year. We could get back to two games out here.
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another double play
I wonder how stats like RZR handle double plays. Anyone know? We certainly have turned more than our share this year.
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they don't
RZR is entirely about fielding balls and making successful plays on them.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 14, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
a huge number of double plays are either gimmes, or context-dependent—say, pierre beating out the throw.
and to the extent it’s a “zone” stat - that is, it’s about range - dp’s are out of scope.
but that isn’t to say that a perfect defense stat would ignore them entirely.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 14, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point
I guess I really need to think about it as a “zone” and not think of it so much as a total defensive metric.
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, we got a double play
That was cool. Let’s talk about it.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
at the rate we're going
Parra will face the minimum, and the Brewers will make zero outs! Ever!
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 14, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop it.
Now.
Lordz Of Vengeance....Just Win, Baby.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 14, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gin & tonic
Now.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should have been a hit
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With the limited catching depth right now in the majors Martin is going to get paid
He sure is a nice player. Very under the radar for a LA guy even.
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oops
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't lock him up much beyond arby
if he stays healthy, he’ll have a mega contract in his future.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 14, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not as good as the Andruw Jones signing
Oh, wait…
by Brew Angel on May 14, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just wait until Salome and Lucroy hit the bigs
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have seen Salome and I will admit I am not sold
He just doesn’t look like he is going to stick behind the plate. If he can’t stick there where can he play?
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha
Nowhere. Nobody likes his defense. He has a cannon arm but is just supposed to be wretched mechanically back there. Who else have you seen besides Jeffress and Salome? I take it you went to WV last year?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I saw them a couple times
I blogged about jeffress’s start a long time ago. Salome may have a cannon but he couldn’t throw anyone out when I saw him.
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, his CS numbers this year suck too
Maybe he can be…a 5’7” RF? A really immobile 2B? I dunno. He’s hitting .390/.424/.545/.969 at age 21 (he won’t be 21 for a month, actually) at AA, so he’s gonna get plenty of time in the minors to hone his craft behind the plate.
Lucroy, on the other hand, was supposedly suspect defensively, but his CS numbers are solid and so are the scouting reports. He’s also hitting like the second-best offensive catcher in the draft, behind Matt Wieters. Only problem is, he’s a week younger than Salome and two levels behind him.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should be beheaded for saying that.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 14, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pete wins the prize!
Who had half an hour in the pool?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny won't get a QS
If he keeps throwing this many pitches/inning. Still, better than giving up runs!
by Brew Angel on May 14, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
actually, 29 pitches through 2
so he’s a-ok.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 14, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Missed the 1st inning
but that’s good news!
by Brew Angel on May 14, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jones coul d have caught that
Relatively easily, in fact.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He couldn't find a good angle to dive for it
You don’t win gold gloves standing, you know.
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just ask Jim Edmonds
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 14, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good thing
they are playing him for his defense
by molitorfan on May 14, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fantastic AB there, Billy
Come on, dude.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Squeeze!
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ha
my feed is slow. for a second i thought you were suggesting Craig squeeze prince home from second.
corey, maybe.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two-run single works too, I guess
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny Parra spits on your squeeze
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
um...i dunno if my wife would like that...
...but if you insist:)
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big stick
Parra going to make Lowe pay for that walk.
by molitorfan on May 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow..
I guess Para wants me to sound like a tool or ripping on his unable to go deep into games thing.
by SgtClueLs on May 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's Parra's first non-double hit, by the way
Ruining his chance to catch Mark Prior.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Manny!
!
He's the round mound of profound
by drezdn on May 14, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Just out of the reach of DeWitt"
Whatever you say, Bill.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just scored a run on pierre's arm
love it.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 14, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
i only watched the last inning or two last night. so it’s like christmas morning for me still.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 14, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite taking advantage of Pierre play
Was Damian Miller tagging from 2nd to 3rd on a fly to center field against the Cubs the year Pierre was there.
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy productive bottom of the order....
...good job crew
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is lowe pitching underhanded now?
gameday can’t see the trajectory, much like shouse or stetter
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My girlfriend
”’Fielder gobbles it up’—they said that because he’s fat!”
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
another question...
would a baseball be considered vegetarian? I know it’s not vegan, being hide and all, but since it has no more meat on it….
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
She's a vegetarian too
I asked her the same thing, only about something a little more…pertinent. I’ll leave it up to the reader to deduce my meaning.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, infield hits
Pierre’s one skill.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
outfield hits take muscle...
...which is why I didn’t get any of those in little league…
but i was also slow, so I got caught stealing too:)
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You shouldn't have run on Kendall
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love this thing where Kendall throws everyone out
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm still at the somewhat amazed state
Maybe “Crash” is the wrong moniker. How about shooter?
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kendall
Asked the doctor to lasik his arm too.
He's the round mound of profound
by drezdn on May 14, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
this team looks a little better than it did a week ago
by molitorfan on May 14, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's the HD
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edmonds update
Jim Edmonds is expected to be in a Cubs uniform Thursday afternoon, playing centerfield and batting ninth in the lineup. Ninth?
"He’s going to hit ninth," manager Lou Piniella [joked]. "I’m going to move the pitcher to eighth, and hit him ninth."
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the "crazy 8" batting order is just a never ending topic of discussion
Lou said he wasn’t going to do it at one point.
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i saw that...
i think lou’s trying to be funny in his own way. see a lineup yet?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(delete previous dumbass comment)
I know what day of the week it is…really i do…
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In your defense
At this point Edmonds probably should be fourteen hours ahead, playing in Japan. :)
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
50 pitches through 4 innings
The crazy thing is “only” 29 strikes there. So the dodgers aren’t doing much when they do get the strikes.
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
8 innings for Parra?:P
...course he seems to think 80 is his limit.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
P.S.
Why don’t they figure pickoff attempts into pitch count? obviously you’d have to raise the 100 soft limit…but I’m sure some pitchers throw more PO attempts than others…
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
c'mon bottom of the order...
...lets be productive again!
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 8:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
dewitt dinger
it’s ok. manny just didn’t want to make bush and villa look bad.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 14, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
on the positive side of things...
after that HR, parra doesn’t have to check any runners
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Parra mechanics
...so anyone know what the “mechanical flaw” is in each pitcher, hopefully now corrected? Jeff, you thought that Bush was telegraphing his pitches, right?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 8:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard both Villy and Bush talk about mechanical adjustments in interviews
I wouldn’t venture a paraphrase, but they didn’t sound like anything major. I noticed that Bush was hitting high 80s with his fastball.
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
He thinks he’s in 1880.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say semaphore...
lol@kow
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about telegraphing
(I’m not ruling it out)
I think that some of his problems come from being coached to nibble more, and missing as a result of that, hence the increased walks over the last year.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 14, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They meant to release Bush and keep Vargas
And only realized their mistake during that meeting the other day.
by Zeyes on May 14, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lowe with only 63 pitches thru 5 despite the hits and a walk
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 8:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
c'mon FSN - give us a side by side shot of Prince and Jones
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 8:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They actually did, when Jones was on in the first inning
He looked positively lithe next to The Man Who Would Be King.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Six for Parra
I’ll have the cake out of the oven shortly.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll bring the noisemakers...
He was great last year too, IMHO.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
six innings!
hell of a stretch from our 3-4-5.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 14, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
frankly, I think they should pull him before next inning though...
...he seems to hit a wall at a PC of 80. he’s at 77 now.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zach Braddock
He was piggybacking on Mike Jones again today, and it’s gone much better: 2 IP, 0 H, 1 BB, 3 K.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
JJ up the middle - chase him outta there guys
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
now doing wind sprints – oh how I used to hate that phrase
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about "suicides"?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Padres score 3
and still batting. 4-3 Cubs in the 5th.
by oconnobe on May 14, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lilly has 9 K's through 5
Wow.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kow: is your signature in reference to anything?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.brewcrewball.com/2007/7/25/134410/474
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Braun hates DeWitt right now
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Love the bounce
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
how is prince...
... supposed to raise his AVG with RISP when not pitched to with RISP?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a conspiracy to lower his arbitration value
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can you
not love Corey Hart! The kid is awesome!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hall
How far out to left would he have to hit it to score Prince on a sac fly? 300 feet? 275?
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Prince should go no matter what
I’ll take his m*v against Pierre’s arm.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I was thinking I should have asked “How shallow would it have to be for Sveum not to send Prince?”
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't Juan have a noodle arm?? I say 250.
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Billy
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Billy ticked off the ump leaving the box early
cuz he has been getting some borderline calls
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmmm… look at gameday and it shows they are all strikes in virtually the same spot
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
6-3 Cubs
Soto’d.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yep...
manny hits a wall at 80…3 pitches into the future.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would that be
Hu-Looney?
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 14, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Should have put CC at third
And TGJ in center.
by Flag Up on May 14, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
CC Sabathia is too big to play third.
by molitorfan on May 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The bigger the third baseman the less area for the ball to sneak through
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just have to get a guy big enough to physically extend from the foul line to the edge of the shortstop's range
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone else think
That if Ned had pinch hit there and the batter made an out and the bullpen blew it this inning, it’d be called a Yosting?
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
...no...it'll be called a yosting...
if Manny falls apart here…
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every loss this year has been called a Yosting
There’s always someone out there pissed about something.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
firenedyost.com
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably
I am already getting the Gagne sweats though.
by molitorfan on May 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly no, but then with X number of fans there are always some who will say every possible answer
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cam Hits a whopping buck 40 against Lowe.
Hall .000 against Lowe
by Flag Up on May 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
In 27 ABs over 11 years. That’s not meaningful.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By that logic
Prince shouldn’t play against Roy Oswalt, right? He hits .160 against him.
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
long link
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080514&content_id=2700360&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Brewers can afford to add top pitcher
Owner Attanasio pledges to open up checkbook if necessary
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You can name links
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't know...
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice flip by Counsell
Rickie goes to first there.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, his ERA did go down
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, technically
But any runs are going to be unearned. I guess it’s not a foregone conclusion he gets another out, though.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding, not a foregone conclusion
What a bullshit rally.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
would an HR be unearned?
...now that Manny’s out, I can ask the question…
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
He should have been out of the inning after Prince’s error. Anything after that isn’t charged as an earned run.
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i really never understood that one...
seeing as it’s not counting the runners on base and if he pitched in the next inning it would have been a run earned..
i also don’t get how an E1 makes for unearned runs.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was kinda ugly
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
infield hits... I'm not sure what word to use
but enough, now Pierre is up.
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Manny should have been pulled against Juan. batter to late as Pierre hits .450 against lefties
YOSTED
by Flag Up on May 14, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you being serious?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um
Huh?
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
It’s kind of sad, really.
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When a batter is hitting .450 against lefties you bring in the righty.
common sense
by Flag Up on May 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this year, in 23 PAs
in his career, he has no discernible platoon differential.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 14, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Based on 23 AB?
Come on. If you’re going to say stuff like that, at least look at more than 23 at bats.
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hit .274/.315/.305 against them last year
And he’s exactly the same against them as against righties over his career, only with even less power.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was pitching pretty well - I was impressed
Prince and Ryan both need to make those plays – I mean come on, that Pierre thing was sad
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
..implosion began...
At 82 pitches in.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
an implosion consisting of what should have been four outs.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Implosion?
He doesn’t give up any runs if Prince or Braun make their plays.
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
An infield hit, error, and bloop that should have been caught does not constitute an implosion
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, okay....
...I can’t see the actual game. my bad.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he looked good in that inning as far as the pitches
I was kind of expecting him to be a little more wild and maybe groove one, but he didn’t. I’d say tonight was a very good outing.
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll 2nd that
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What good is Gameday if you cannot...see?

He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My fault
This all started as soon as I loaded up MLBtv
by andrew_p on May 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Prince owes Parra a win if this one slips away
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 14, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he can buy him a steak
Er…a veggie meatloaf sandwich from the Comet?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
eating comet...
isn’t good for you. Didn’t you see the Mr. Yuck symbol?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 14, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll settle for him plating a couple runs this inning
to loosen this game up a little.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're confusing veggie meatloaf with Activa
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
If he ate more steak, he makes that play, right?
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming we don't score here the heart of the order will be up for the dodgers
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It'll be Mota
Setting the stage for another feel-good story about Gagne getting the save.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gagne knows how to pitch two innings...
he proved it two nights ago…
why not give it to him again now?
then when he throws out his arm, we can put him on the DL and send him to AAA rehab the rest of the season:P
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being serious, I think Gagne is out today after throwing three innings in two days
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he would be...
...pitching on a team not managed by Yost or Baker.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha
I would agree
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I heard Haudricourt on a radio show
say he is a go for today. Not a hunnert percent sure about that.
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's proctor's pitching style?
...also doesn’t show on gameday…
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shitty
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Proctologist shitty?
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mostly fastballs
Sliders to righties, changes to lefties, with a few curves mixed in.
by dixieflatline on May 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm assuming Gagne is available tonight?
or with 3 innings in 2 nights do you save him for worst case?
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
More small sample stuff
They should pinch hit for Hardy. He’s only hitting .125 in the 7th inning.
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but what do his splits look like on days his beefcake picture is published in Sports Illustrated?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no idea about Hardy
but Uecker is excellent tonight. :)
by Zeyes on May 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...god i miss uke...
Is there any free station out there that does radio of the game?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB Audio
is only like $20 for the year
by molitorfan on May 14, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol...
maybe they should have:P
Anyone have a plot of how players do by inning? like do some players need a few innings to “warm up”
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sooner or later a pitcher is going to pay
for those loopy first strike curves to Braun
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 9:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Riske
Don’t know what’s wrong, but he called the trainers out and walked off.
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fell off the mound?
like shouse in NY?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 9:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looked like he was clinching his pitching hand when he walked into the dugout
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 14, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Riske just covering for...
Yost accidentally warming up the wrong reliever. Seriously though, hope it’s nothing serious…
by Zeyes on May 14, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If Riske is actually hurt
Does Pena get the call?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 14, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who else is on the 40-man roster?
Dillard and who else?
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gallardo on one knee?
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 14, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also I hear Cirillo is looking for a gig
Have I’ve just been missing him or has he not been on the Pre/Post game shows lately?
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 14, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he only does road games
When he feels like it.
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well folks...
gotta go. my first nearly complete game of participating at this awesome site. Thanks jeff, battlekow and other “hosts”
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish Turnbow were pitching
I kid I kid
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 14, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
geez
Wellemeyer shutting out the Pirates tonight, just got pulled after giving up a single to open the 8th inning. I bet Duncan could turn Turnbow into a league-average starter.
by Zeyes on May 14, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
there's a thread at vivaelbirdos near the top
where there is, how shall I say it, a big lack of love. They don’t hate on the guy, but lots of negativity. Hard to argue with the results that Duncan produces, but they do.
by ol Pete on May 14, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Efficiency
Is Shouse’s middle name
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 14, 2008 9:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Davey Nelson pointed out that Kendall has 11 throwouts on attempted steals so far this season, versus 6 for Estrada all of last year.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 14, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We all
really miss Estrada. And by “we all” I mean Jamie.
by molitorfan on May 14, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO GAGNE!!!!
Don’t let him ruin another game!!!
by jkossman on May 14, 2008 9:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Going out on a limb
I think Mota is going to be coming in.
He's the round mound of profound
by drezdn on May 14, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BA just mentioned The Masters
which is, as we know, a tradition unlike any other.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 14, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You could have atleast got me a K in Fantasy Baseball there hall.
by Flag Up on May 14, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Life sucks tonight, huh?
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by TheJay on May 14, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs
up 8-4, bottom 8 so we need Mota to finish off this win
by molitorfan on May 14, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marino Salas in again for the Pirates
Gets Pujols to ground out, followed by two singles.
by Zeyes on May 14, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Something wrong with Hart?
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on May 14, 2008 9:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just a double switch
in case need to bat in the bottom of the 9th
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 14, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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