Game Thread #41: Dodgers (20-19) at Brewers (20-20)
by Jeff Sackmann on May 15, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
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PrintWell, that sucked.
Fortunately, we've got a Ben Sheets start to look forward to that ought to help get the bad taste out of our mouths. Sheets has a 3.15 ERA in his last 5 starts against the Dodgers, which is nice to hear, but doesn't mean much, since that's about one start per year stretching back to 2003. Chad Billingsley goes for the other guys.
Here's the BR Game Preview. Start time is 12:05 CT.
Go Brewers!
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Go Crew....
Need to string together a few series wins to put pressure on the 3 teams ahead of us (3 teams ahead of us, ridiculous)
Personally, I think we got hosed on that one! - Harry Doyle
One bad day away
from 4 teams ahead of us.
Hu's out of the lineup
His replacement, Maza, has a much lower pun rating.
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Maybe not for Braun
I can think of a couple of Jewish related puns we could use.
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
jeez
It’s surgery week. First Gallardo, then Capuano today, and probably Riske before the week’s out.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 15, 2008 11:46 AM CDT reply actions
does the team doctor make overtime?
will we be able to pay Braun’s contract afterall?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Crew lineup
Weeks, 2B
Hardy, SS
Braun, LF
Fielder, 1B
Hart, RF
Dillon, 3B
Gwynn, CF
Sheets, P
Kendall, C
Interesting how Hall and Cameron both K three times last night, get today off.
They both killed the Brewers yesterday
good call
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
I like getting Gwynn and Dillon some good AB's
and since this is a get-away game it gives Cameron and Hall a little extra rest before the big roadtrip
Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay
I suspect it'll be Dillard or Jackson
They don’t have to make a 40-man roster move to accommodate them like they would DiFelice.
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Don’t the Brewers only have 34 or so people on the 40 man roster right now though? Though I wouldn’t mind Dillard.
He's the round mound of profound
The official site lists 37
I suppose they could add DiFelice easily, after all. Does that make it harder to send him down after interleague play, however?
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Maybe wonder boy can get on base
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
gotta love fsn's camera angles
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
no i meant
when they go to trenni :)
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
no, it was my futile attempt at a joke
hardy hart hart
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
wait, there she is! :)
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
Uecker
Did he really just say Braun was signed through the 10015 season? That’s a long time.
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that curveball is looking real nice
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
it'd be nice to get gwynn on
so sheets doesn’t lead up the next inning
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
Gwynn
Knowing he has to get on for just that reason, fails to get on. Sad.
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More Gwynn
When the count got to 0-2 on Gwynn I would have had Fielder steal. Worst case, Gwynn gets to lead off the third with a new count.
More Gwynn part two
I also meant to say, if Gwynn reaches base to lead off the inning then Sheets would have the opportunity to contribute a productive out.
1/10 adults...not sure about IN wisconsin...
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2002 data says
Wisco ranks 35th in individuals with diabetes with 6.5% of residents being diagnosed. This is a 2.5% increase from 2000 data.
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
yeah, i'm sure that also includes type 2
and without doing any research what so ever, my guess is that “artificially” raises the average in the sense that it occurs due to poor health (not taking care of your body)
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Whoa, Gary Bennett
Backup catchers have a average career longevity just under that of lefthanded relievers, I guess.
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kinda wish...
..that the opposing pitcher would stop dueling:P
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
that makes sense
brian anderson: “great day outside, but the roof is closed”
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
But it's only 57 degrees
Someone might get chilly!
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i agree
i don’t know why they wait so long to open the roof – then when they do open it and it’s 90 degrees outside the place bakes
by somethingvague on May 15, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I took a crew of Pony Leaguers there
last July – bleachers, 3rd base side, day game, all that…
let’s just say we had the windows open on the bus ride home. yeesh.
by somethingvague on May 15, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
it's 100
...where I am. god, it was hot. It was like 80 this morning at 8:30 when I went for a jog…
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
it's 67 here in minnesota
I honestly think it’s the first time its been above 63 all year
/ off to check weather-reference.com
by somethingvague on May 15, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice dig by Powell
on Johnny Estrada
"My fellow nerds and I will retire to the nerdery with our calculators."
Cy Young Award
Mike Marshall in ‘74
Fernando Valenzuela in ‘81
Orel Hershiser in ‘88
Who am I missing?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
I didn't see the question
But I’m assuming it was LA Dodgers who’ve won the Cy Young? Gagne won it in 2003.
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...on average...
...a little under 2 per year.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Mark Difelice
He wasn’t on the 40 man so we are going to have to move YoGa to the 60 day or something like that right?
I heard..
...that for some reason there are 37 on the 40-man roster right now…
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
for reasons
exactly like this situation
by somethingvague on May 15, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah
I guess that makes sense but 37 seems rather low to me. Especially since Gallardo could easily be put on the 60 day.
by dixieflatline on May 15, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
unclear on the concept...
how easy is it to add and subtract players from the 40 man roster? Also I’m assuming you can play on AAA and be on the 40-man, right? Despite playing the game for years, I don’t understand some of the subtleties of pro ball.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
If you subtract then they have to go through waivers
by dixieflatline on May 15, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
...which means...
...any team can sign them to a contract, right? does the player have to agree, or is it like being a free agent – either they go to the new team or they don’t play ball?
maybe I don’t understand free agency fully either:P
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Waivers
There’s different types of waivers, but Keith Law has a pretty good article about them here.
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I think teams usually keep a few spots open
For quick additions.
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robbed
If Ned hadn’t argued with the umpire yesterday, that ball would have gone out.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 15, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
that's what happens
when nobody can hit the ball
by somethingvague on May 15, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that some of those should be change ups
by dixieflatline on May 15, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
all of them right out over the plate
by somethingvague on May 15, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
another double play!
Man it seems like we are turning them in bundles this year, and I’m not complaining.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
If we're gonna let people on
we may as well double them up
Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay
why not
gotta try something to get on…as i speak dillon does just that
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I mean, I guess
I’m not all that excited about one of our better hitters for power bunting with no outs in the fifth inning. That said, if it was a swinging bunt, nothing you can do about that.
by somethingvague on May 15, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Can someone tell me what happened in the top of the 4th?
I’m watching the game on ESPN Gamecast, and the fourth has the following plays:
PIerre singled to center
Ethier struck out swinging
Kent Flied out to Center
Now, I’m no mathematician, but that looks like two outs. What’s missing?
They missed Andruw Jones' groundout
It went about ten feet in front of the plate.
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Maza
Has he made a good throw even in warmups?
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How about a damn hit?
Lordz Of Vengeance....Just Win, Baby.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 15, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions
all we need's a walk
we got big ben on deck
by somethingvague on May 15, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't like missing the game to see his oddly comic expression?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
the ladies love it
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Excellent Time for Sheet's 1st HR
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
Close enough
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 15, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
or single!
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
that's the 28th single of ben's 7 year career
by somethingvague on May 15, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
A run would've been awesome
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
1st hit?
Think Sheets goes into the dugout and says something along the lines of “See guys, it’s not that hard.”
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
Powell last inning was really feeling his Cheerios....
First, he flat out GUARANTEED that Selig would go down as the greatest baseball comissioner of all time when it was all said and done. Then he declares that although some pitchers throw better sliders and slower curves, he was positive that Sheets threw the best power curve in the game of baseball today and that nobody throws it harder. Lastly, speaking of GM Doug Melvin he described him as being more astute than any other GM anywhere today.
I mean, I like Sheets and the city of Milwaukee too, but could he tone it down a bit and include a “in my opinion” or “just really good” or “one of the best” from time to time? Does he discriminate at all, or does every single event that he witnesses pretty much qualify as the coolest most kick ass thing ever in the history of time?
We don't need dolls, we need hits! ---Ozzie Guillen
He might be right about the speed of the curve
by dixieflatline on May 15, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
No totally, I know Sheets' curve is awesome......
but I mean there might be a discussion on Selig right? (Ahem….STEROIODS?) I love Melvin too, but seriously is he really on a totally different level than every single GM? That guy’s just a bit much sometimes….that’s all I’m sayin.
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Momma Braun is pretty cute...
Is that wrong?
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul."
not as wrong as what i said lol
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Like mother, like son :)
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
trenni and braun are pefect for each other
braun has bug eyes, trenni has bug…
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I've never actually...
seen this Trenni woman of which you speak. I take it I’m missing out?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
very cute, in my opinion
i won’t be like jim powell and proclaim she is the best though :)
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You need a friend with FSN
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
There's a number of headshots on Google
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This game has the feel of a classic Sheeter
Great Outing by Sheets, but a lack of run support from the offense.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
damn that was a perfect pick off throw
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he's been playing a LOT better
since torre proved he wasn’t afraid to bench him
by somethingvague on May 15, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't it agreed that Either is a lot better?
if you take the money out of the situation especially
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Yeah Pierre was terrible last year and even if he hits 290 it is an "empty" .290
by dixieflatline on May 15, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, it has been an empty .290 in the past
but this season so far he’s being more patient…his obp is above .360 and he’s already knocked in 15 runs. i certainly agree ethier is better, but pierre’s been playing better this season so far than he has since his marlin days
by somethingvague on May 15, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
At his current rate
He could pitch 8 1/3 innings and throw only 100 pitches, throwing 12.333 pitches per inning!
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
...I just noticed...
The background of the Braun press conference. The Brewers are going all New England Patriotsie. Background of the logo alternated with a sponsor. I hate that crap.
Rickie walks
1000 times better than Cameron in the leadoff spot :)
BA says it’s Defilice (spelling?)
by Marty McSuperFly on May 15, 2008 1:34 PM CDT reply actions
Indeed
I think that is only the 4th base runner of the game
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
High and Tight
If a Brewers’ player were to charge the mound, who would be your pick as the guy most likely to do so?
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
Sheets
Good hitters should get more respect than that.
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i would want...
Fielder:P Not just for catchers anymore..
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Deep fly to left
Rickie doesn’t try to take second against Pierre’s arm. I think he could have made it :)
by Marty McSuperFly on May 15, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply actions
That's what she said
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Can't wait for the Office finale tonight
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
or he said
/heteronormative
//prince’d
by somethingvague on May 15, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
If it's past the infield dirt
It’s pretty deep for Juan’s arm. :)
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dude, it's a joke
If you can’t make fun of Juan Pierre, who can you make fun of?
by Marty McSuperFly on May 15, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Earn your money today!
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Hall
But could he actually hit anything if the pitcher moves just a bit to his side?
He's the round mound of profound
Shattered that bat
I feel all of his good bats have been broken that he got hot with!
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Walking Prince didn't work yesterday
Hopefully it doesn’t today!
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Holy crap!
We are getting one hit with Sheets getting the hit??
It's funny when you say it like that.....
actually, no wait that’s depression. It’s depressing when you say it like that…...
We don't need dolls, we need hits! ---Ozzie Guillen
Small Sample Size
But Manny Parra has a better batting average than Cameron and Hall.
He's the round mound of profound
i should change my nickname..
to small sample size;)
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
that will go well for you on friday nights out.
by Braunstalker on May 15, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
So does Jim Edmonds!
1-1 in his debut with the cubs. Obviously he is going to be a great signing for them :)
by dixieflatline on May 15, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
I guess Sheets is going to have to lead the rally in the 7th
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
is yost
gonna be a dumbass and pull him though?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
If we get two runners on
I would hope so
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
okay...now maybe
seeing as we need the offense to catch up…
until then, I would have taken the tie.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
When we go to Boston
who do you think will DH? Sheets or Parra?
We don't need dolls, we need hits! ---Ozzie Guillen
That's who I would love to see
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 15, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I would like to see Gallardo
Kirk Gibson style later in the year, not as the DH, but as a pinch hitter in a long Cubs game in the 15th inning
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
sheets
If he gets the loss and that is the only run he gives up, it would fit the typical Sheets game circa 2004
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Jones and Pierre
are getting back at me for laughing at their contracts.
C;mon Sheets
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Awesome, now Braun makes a triple out of a single
I’m gonna go back to the store.
He's extremely quick and good.
Can't wait to see that kind of play for the next 8 years!
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Man
I think Kent is 40 years old, lets get some of these guys out!
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
well, this inning sucks
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1st error?
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
But that shouldn't be a triple
I know they don’t give errors on plays that should be, but last night the ball that was in his glove and popped out should have been an error, this one, I don’t think you can make the arguement, but I also don’t think people can keep saying he is playing great defense, just because his stat line states he has no errors
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
If all of our hits counted as
1.5 runs each, we’d still be losing.
We don't need dolls, we need hits! ---Ozzie Guillen
How the heck
did I get through the late 90’s early aughts Brewers games without a platform for venting frustrations?
Didn't watch them
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Oh
I have watched or listened to 120+ a year since ‘98.
by Braunstalker on May 15, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
matt vasgersian
at least made it entertaining
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yep...
that was good. that’s when I sorta started to pay attention again.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
wouldn't be suprised to see a squeeze
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
Yost will say
There is a minor adjustment we need to make
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
WTF
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
Great throw by Braun, yikes
Does anyone else feel everything that Braun does that is not perfect, he will be blame more so because of his contract… I feel if Gagne was only paid $2 million, not as many people would complain
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
yeah that comes with the territory i guess
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WHY
was this not a night game to save me from the horror?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Not only that
Make sure the mopup relievers for the Dodgers get some work, giving the offense a chance to make sure Sheets doesn’t have the only Brewers hit today.
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What are the odds
Sheets goes on the DL tomorrow with some sort of strain or something
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
we will be four games under .500
by the time we play our next game in Milwaukee. Would not surprise me ifTed Simmons is our manager at that point
by James Stanley Cocanower on May 15, 2008 1:57 PM CDT reply actions
That happens
When play a position with depth and you make the final out of an inning. Last night he made the second out of the preceding inning but taking out Hall would’ve used up all the bench infielders.
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Well, besides Weeks
Who doesn’t play anywhere but second.
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thank
...i realized my dumbassidness of my question right after asking it…
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
well i'm taking this opportunity
to clean my place. here’s hoping for a comeback!
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Don't worry that much
Brewers tend to hit the l33t pitchers like they’re AAAA-quality, Wakefield is horribly inconsistent, and Matsuzaka likes walks a whole lot.
was at the Sox-Twins series last week
It’s a shame that Buchholz had to go on the DL with the 15-day suck a broken nail because he was so atrocious on Monday. However, that’s exactly the sort of pitcher the Brewers seem to have issues with. It’s also too bad they’re missing Lester, but ditto. I didn’t see Beckett. Wakefield can pitch gems, but if he pitches anything like he did on Sunday, it’s going to be a run festival. Matsuzaka doesn’t give up hits that much, but his control has been off lately.
Also, their bullpen is a lot like the Brewers, except that they just DFA’ed their only proven long reliever. They have one lefty, Javier Lopez; my Sox fan friends and I call him the “left-handed no-out guy.” I saw Papelbon blow a save (and wasting Matsuzaka’s effort on not letting the guys he walked score) on Saturday.
This is where Yost loses games
He tries to squeeze one more inning out of a pitcher because he is due up in the next half of the inning. Somewhere before 6 runs and three home runs are given up you should be able to make a switch.
It isn’t because the pitcher fails to make pitches, its that the manager fails to realize that the pitcher is incapable on that day of making the pitches. And it isn’t because they are down one pitcher in the pen, this has been the Yost MO for years.
huh?
sheets had a low pitch count and was showing command until that inning…
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
additionally...
had a CG shutout earlier this season, followed by a strong 7 or 8 inning outing…
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not like its Parra
It’s Sheets, you keep him in, witha low pitch count, commanding stuff all game, sometimes guys get rocked, and it’s easy to say after that Yost should have taken him out here, but Sheets just as easliy could have retired the next batters in order
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Past performance is not indicative of future success
A. Jones homered to deep left
A. Ethier grounded out to third
- J. Kent homered to deep left
- J. Loney tripled to deep left
- R. Martin singled to left, J. Loney scored
- L. Maza singled to deep left center, R. Martin to third
- G. Bennett homered to deep left, L. Maza and R. Martin scored
Somewhere in there it should have been clear to a normal human that in the 7th Sheets was no longer making his pitches. And like I said, this isn’t Ned’s first time doing this.
by Getting Yosted on May 15, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
So then the questions are
How long does it take a reliever to warm up and when should he have started warming up? After the second home run? After the single-turned-triple?
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After the second home run
The reliever should have been up. After the next batter reached there should have been as long of a mound visit as the ump would allow. During the AB to Martin, Kendall should have been stalling as much as possible to allow more time for McClung to get ready. If Sheets gets Martin you allow him to face another batter, but if Martin gets on in any fashion Sheets’ day is done. It leaves you in a three run hole instead of a six run hole on a day when your offense is struggling.
by Getting Yosted on May 15, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course
Because in my original comment I didn’t say that this is a continuing trend with Ned trying to squeeze innings out of a pitcher because of their batting order, which is where the problem truly lies.
And no other reliever on the planet is capable of warming up inside two batters, and no manager has ever thought to use stalling tactics to allow a reliever to get warm in that time.
by Getting Yosted on May 15, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Because I'm at work
At that intrudes from my typing at times, but clearly the only thing that counts is the time stamp of the post on the intertubes.
by Getting Yosted on May 15, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
after the single there WAS a coaching visit to the mound
do you want McClung coming in without having thrown warmup pitches?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
perhaps it would be wise...
...to just have some pitcher warming up in the bullpen every inning starting with inning #4, but no major league team does that – probably because that affects how frequently they can pitch in a game.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
So
Does this look like Ryan Braun to you?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Me too
The sword is supposed to be his bat, as he is the almighty warrior of the field…
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
But he's got two swords
One in his hands, one still in the scabbard on his right hip. So confused…is he supposed to be hacking off the tiger’s head (an anti-Detroit shirt)?
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...it seems...
...we ratchet it up a notch for within our division threats (cubs/cards) but down for anyone else, including Houston.
Yay Dillon!
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
..errr
kendall you mean? or does gameday have it wrong?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Or Kendal rather
Announcers confuse me
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
i thought...
he was supposed to be slow. Inside the park for weeks or hart?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
His baby blues aren't winning you over anymore?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Yay Braun!
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
that would have been nice
with the bases loaded
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
he wouldn't have jacked it then:P
almost all of his homers have been solos, or so I perceive.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Soriano syndrome I call that
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
...and Prince
...seems to need runners on.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
he's hit 1 with men on
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=braunry02&year=2008
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
I can do this gut instinct thing too...
Maybe I should replace Ned.
Braun can hit leadoff:P
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
If only Hardy would have struck out
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
With his new contract
How long before people start referring to HRs like that as padding his own stats without doing anything for the team?
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Probably once we lose this game
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
More likely
How soon before Boras starts complaining Prince’s RBIs are down because Braun always clears the bases
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Well
Prince wanted to hit fourth, remember. :)
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he's trying to wear down the pitcher...
...forgetting that this is the last game of the series and the 8th inning with a fresh pitcher…
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
11 pitch at bat so far
here comes 12
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
nice at bat!
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Crappy game so far....
but this is a very nice at bat by Prince.
We don't need dolls, we need hits! ---Ozzie Guillen
how about a HR here to make it interesting
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
from Craiggers...
that would be interesting
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
If Counsell can pull it off
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
He needs to swing to hit a HR
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
little known fact about counsell
he is the marlins mascot during off days
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
really?
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Dang
He actually hit the ball
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
is this Stetter's first appearance...
since walking 4? and the one before that, was that when he got hit for the loss with a 2-run shot?
hopefully he doesnt walk another 4
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
already half way to his 4 walks and no one out
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Dude, seriously
I liked the Stetter thing at first but I am just about done caring about seeing him pitch. Ever.
We don't need dolls, we need hits! ---Ozzie Guillen
time to make him only pitch to lefties again...
...with runners inherited.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
against lefties okay
against righties, not so much.
i think shouse is better all-around.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 15, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
small mechanical change we need to make
but i can’t tell you what it is
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
he's just having a tough time out there
and he’ll work it out he just has to get out there and battle. i have confidence in him that he’ll get it
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
( Ned's cranky old man voice)
You know, this is baseball. Sometimes you gotta just trust your guys; he hit a little bit of a rough spot there but he was battling out there. Mitchy’s done a nice job for so far and he’s a big part of this team, you just gotto tip your cap to the Dodgers there for layin’ off….
(Reporter) Ned, any thoughts on the upcoming road trip? Things are looking rough considering the injury to Riske, struggling offense, an upcoming series vs the World Champs, this team’s troubles on the road in the past, and more specifically this team’s struggles in Pittsburgh the last few years.
(Ned, pausing in reflection) Actually, yeah now that you put it like that I think we’re kind of screwed. I’d actually like to take the time here to thank the media for putting things in perspective for me. I actually have no idea what to do about any of that. Jeez, good luck to us I guess.
FIN
We don't need dolls, we need hits! ---Ozzie Guillen
Everybody's wrong - including what I thought
He said something like “he needs to throw strikes if he wants to contribute at the major league level.”
Ouch.
Bases loaded
This is not going to be pretty
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Could have been worse!
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Someone needs to explain to Stetter
that if you walk a dude and he later scores that run still counts. He has issued 8 BB’s in his last inning of work. Maybe someone could sit him down, and explain to him what WHIP means.
We don't need dolls, we need hits! ---Ozzie Guillen
That leaves out Ned
unless you plan on writing the definition on a note card.
by Getting Yosted on May 15, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
brian anderson:
“pierre trucks it down for the out”
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
No
He can make his almost cracking-up face at him
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
What's become of the hitting
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
will the game end
I don’t want them to load the bases now just to get my hopes up
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
6 hits
can’t win with that, esp when 1 of them comes from your pitcher
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
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