Game Thread #43: Brewers at Red Sox
by battlekow on May 17, 2008 6:02 PM CDT
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PrintIt'll be Dave Bush vs. Tim Wakefield, or more appropriately, Ryan Braun vs. the amount of runs Bush allows.
Game time is who knows, and it's not on TV.
Go Brewers!
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Come on now...
Prince looked pretty comfortable at the plate in game 1. A few more feet on one of his doubles and there’s a different outcome. I know that’s not what happened, but there’s a chance Ryan Braun won’t have to knock in 7 runs for us to win. If Prince knocks in 3, then Braun will only have to knock in 4….
Bad game for Corey Hart this afternoon… the Red Sox were begging to get beat if Hart gets even one hit in his RBI opportunity ABs…
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 17, 2008 6:24 PM CDT reply actions
time
mlb.tv says game time is 7:35 central
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 6:33 PM CDT reply actions
I wonder if watching Dickey pitch last year will help Braun or Dillon?
Charlie Haeger and that Zink guy are in the IL so this could be the first time a lot of our batters see a knuckleball.
no sense in tracking the game then...the outcome is clear
..assuming kapler is in the lineup that is:P
by PagsBrewCrew on May 17, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
he's supposed to be
Tom H’s blog this morning said Braun would DH and Kapler would play left.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 17, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
oh glorious day!
that’s the way game1 should have been set up. Perhaps with someone else at 3B too, but Ned either only makes one substitution or like 6 at once.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 17, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
well, that's odd
It must be a national blackout on mlb.tv, because I can’t access the stream from Milwaukee or San Francisco (let’s assume that I quickly went to San Francisco to test).
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions
That's nothing
I just popped over to London and then realized it had nothing to do with a national blackout
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Amazing..
But what happens if the tubes are clogged? You know they aren’t like trucks, they are a series of tubes.
That's bad news
If the tubes are clogged, then I have to actually work
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
err...
I’m in that area (northern Cal) so…if you want someone to check again, you can just e-mail me your mlb.tv password:P
by PagsBrewCrew on May 17, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
false alarm
Here I am, back in SF, waiting for the game to start :)
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Does this sound right?
Official rules: 6.05 (g) – A batter is out when his fair ball touches him before touching a fielder.
If so, Lugo was called out correctly.
Random Gripes
I read the Sports Illustrated article on the Brewers this week.
I saw their mention of Stetter having been the “Candy Man” for the bullpen. As any of my co-workers will tell you, I absolutely love all candy, especially milk chocolate based treats. However, I think the last thing a major leaguer needs on-the-job is a sugar high.
I’m not saying that they should have only health food out there and frankly, I’d rather have them chewin’ tobacco out there, as at least that won’t negatively impact their game (their lives, sure…but not their game:P). Ideally, it’d be good if they could have a trail mix or a protein bar or something…but not something that will leave them crashing in about 30 minutes.
Also, does hazing the new guys really bind a team together? If I was the new guy it would negatively impact my performance. I know I’m not a pro athlete, but I sure as hell do worse when others make me jump through unneeded hoops.
some FSN feature showed the clubhouse
Saw boxes of candy bars including one of Snickers. There is also a mini short order grill.
snickers has some redeeming qualities
seems to give me a burst of energy for my workouts without crashing me, but that might just be trying to justify my own habits.
Twix completely wipes me out though:P
In any case, i think a powerbar protein plus, etc would be better for them if they NEED a candybar. And if they’re just sucking on blowpops, someone should call their mommies to spank them for improper nutrition;)
by PagsBrewCrew on May 17, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Key game
Trying to stay above the Pirates.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions
Is it a contest for who will finish last? Or who gets fired first?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 17, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
GM is new in Cincy though
Jockety is used to working with LaRussa. Dusty is probably a big change.
by dixieflatline on May 17, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Drink more?
What if Baker drinks more? That make Jockety feel more at home?
Heyo! Cheap shot low blow. I’ll be here all week, don’t forget to tip your waitress.
aren't knuckleballers
supposed to throw a lot in the dirt?
If so, does this mean we should get a lot of hits with the balls being this high in the zone?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 17, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
2-0 lead with the way we are hitting right now
This game might already be over in the first ;)
It is going to be a long painful summer if this keeps up
Its all about the Bullpen this season that is the key.
naw...
...we’re only down two, and Braun hit a homer earlier and is having some 2 HR days lately. In other words, we’re quite a bit in this one.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 17, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Game Channel
Is anyone else having trouble loading it?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
One good thing about NESN
This Heidi Watney person
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions
A Bush fastball hit 92
he’s been throwing harder lately it seems. Could it be a Maddux mechanical correction?
And he’s out of the second. Maybe its the ol’ first and sixth where he gives up runs. Just don’t let him pitch the sixth.
so, I've lately said that the Brewers don't steal
Looks like ned wants to paint me as a liar
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions
That was a pretty shallow hit
Counsell wasn’t going to make it
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply actions
They really need to stop trying stuff like that
Cameron accidentally runs into some pitches, but counting on him to put a bat on the ball is asking for trouble.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 8:24 PM CDT reply actions
your video feed is about 20 seconds faster than mine
Gives me a heads up to pay attention to the next swing
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
How many times
do they need to show that Manny “high-five” play? I think I’ve seen it 20 times in the past 2 days.
hard to say from the angle
I thought he was, but it’s possible he was trying to advance when the ball got away from the catcher
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
funny thought
2 years ago who would have thought that at this moment Rickie’s defense would be the strongest part of his game ;)
Its funny but not ha ha funny
Its all about the Bullpen this season that is the key.
These announcers are petty
Commenting on how bad Kapler’s team did last year, and commented earlier that someone faster than Fielder would have had a triple.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions
Back to Mendoza Line
That K put Hall back to the mendoza line… That’s 3 starters below it. Not good..
Cameron
Though is numbers are probably skewed by his stint in San Diego, does anyone have a 3TO% for Cameron?
He's the round mound of profound
mostly off topic
I’ve been building a little javascript tool to calculate MLEs, and here’s what Branyan’s AAA line translates to (not adjusting for park in minors or majors):
309/373/564
Also, cheese.
But we need two slap-hitting lefties!
And a pinch runner!
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
branyan could slap a lefty
and pinch trenni…
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 17, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
This is why I hate interleague play
You take a perfectly good DH and make him play 1st base. Oh, yeah….never mind.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions
It's a rough game
when you’re hoping all the grounders will be hit to Weeks
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
let's see if it makes a difference
Losing 5-0 instead of 4-0 isn’t too big a deal at this point :)
by Marty McSuperFly on May 17, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I turn the game on
and immediately Counsell gets an error. And now there is another run thanks to another error.
Also, apparently Good Wake and Bad Wake alternate starts.
Nedly
Hey…..I have been trying to give Nedly the benfit of the doubt as the Brewers just simply keep sucking. AND I completely understand that the players need to be held accountable, but I am starting to think that no one is “lighting a fire under these guys”. Therefore, if Nedly doesn’t do something soon….he is going to be going BYE BYE…even it its totally not his fault. I think Ned is an attitude himself anyway.
strangely enough
that ball hit Counsell right where i am injured.
let’s hope similarities end there. i don’t think of myself as particularly scrappy.
Also, cheese.
And Counsell doesn't have a website...
does he?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 17, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
there is this...
but sadly, no pictures of craig’s head on mother theresa’s body.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 17, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
some people reading that comment are probably very confused right now
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
Rickie vs. Aardsma
righties hitting .167 against him. Rickie hitting .185. Base hit the only logical outcome
Cash is Money
intentional pun or not?
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
They give you cash
which is just as good as money
"You have no honor!" - McClung to Fukudome
by zsxander567 on May 17, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
If it wasn't for all those hits he would have a no-hitter!
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
He's heating up, I think.
Sooner or later he’s going to start cranking pitches into the seats again.
Right? right?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 17, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I really wish I could be watching this
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
Remember who we are playing here
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
Counsell to Youkilis:
You can have your OBP and good-ness… I prefer the occasional clutch double down the line.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
i just went from happy face to puke face really fast...
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
5 unearned runs by both teams combined in the 7th
Nice.
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Keeping in mind that I'm a bit of a moron on the subject...
... exactly why is Bill Hall starting every game at 3rd? The power he offers? His contract? The lack of viable alternatives?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 17, 2008 10:19 PM CDT reply actions
Past performance with the bat coupled with much better defense than Braun
He's extremely quick and good.
Ok.
But is “better defense than Braun” the standard we want to go by? :)
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 17, 2008 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Tell that to a OPS of over 1.100, with 11 homers
and his defense is pretty solid
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
Bring him up and see. I'm game.
But he’ll still be the same guy he was last time he played in the majors.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 17, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
sounds pretty good
I guess then the problem is the roster juggling. Dillon down is about the only thing I can think of.
that's why it would be nice
to find him a team, like the Padres, that would play him every day.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
If you bring him up, he has to stay...
... as hes out of options. That probably dooms Branyan at AAA barring an injury to Hall or Dillon. At least until we’re into the 2nd half.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 17, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see why he wouldn't be able to stay as a backup for the remainder of the year
The team doesn’t need two backup CFs; if Kapler goes down, Gwynn can be recalled.
He's extremely quick and good.
Unfortunately
Doug Melvin disagrees. But that certainly makes sense to me.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
Probably true.
I always thought it would be nice to have Gwynn on the bench for his speed, but its’ not like they use him that way.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 17, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
If Branyan is really bad enough to boot off the roster, is there any problem losing him?
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There is if Hall gets hurt. Then Counsell's your everyday 3rd baseman.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 17, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess
I was thinking if Branyan’s bad enough that they’d want to boot him off the roster, Counsell wouldn’t be too much of a downgrade from him anyway.
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And you may be right about that.
But I’m picturing the Ned/Doug factor playing a role in dumping Branyan even if he does ok so they can keep Kapler and Dillon around.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 17, 2008 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
If they like Dillon that much, they could platoon him with Counsell anyway.
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I'll certainly admit I could be wrong,
but aside from his power he’s always struck me as a AAAA guy who could give some power off the bench in the bigs. But that’s it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 17, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly
that’s what he would do- provide lefty power off of the bench, which the Brewers do not have. And there’s this:
Hall’s OPS career vs. righties: .756
Branyan’s OPS career vs. righties: .811
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
I wrote it somewhere else
He’s not bad, and can also play at 1st and corner outfield
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
lack of viable alternatives
This man disagrees:
(vs. righties anyway)
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
I know you're frustrated
But Hall has been pretty good defensively for the most part this year.
He's extremely quick and good.
Maybe Rickie and Billy don't like Dave Bush...
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 17, 2008 10:20 PM CDT reply actions
Just trying to get their buddy Torres a win
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
Lefty to face Braun
Lets rekindle some of that 1.480 OPS magic we had last year.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
I can't see the game...
... but I’m picturing something resembling beer league softball
...
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 17, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
The main picture on MLB.com
is Counsell following through on that double, and it’s a pretty funny one.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
and here it is!
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2008/05/17/BRwEdp6n.jpg
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
That happens early in seasons
He had only 2 2/3 IP when he was at 27.00
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Ugh..
Sox tried to let us win the game. But we gave it right back.
so is this the new low now? Tied with the Reds or last place in the weak NL Central?
One more bad day
and 6 teams ahead of us.
Torres
Talk about an undeserved loss.
G’night guys.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 17, 2008 10:50 PM CDT reply actions
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