Game Thread #29: Brewers (16-12) at Astros (13-16)
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 5:00 PM CDT
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It's Carlos Villanueva vs. Roy Oswalt. Last year, that would've sounded like a mismatch, and if it still sounds like it's lopsided, it might be in the other direction. Villa has give us two straight outings with 6+ innings and 2 ER, while Oswalt has an ERA of 5.75.
That said, I don't think it's time to talk about Oswalt being toast. He's been unlucky in just about every possible way: very few popups (Rickie will help that), and a disproportionate number of fly balls leaving the part. Summed up in the Hardball Times stat xFIP, Oswalt *should* have an ERA more like 3.64. ZiPS projected 3.48, so that makes a lot more sense.
Here's the BR Game Preview. Game time is 7:05 CT.
Project-a-tron trusts ZiPS more than a few flukish bad starts in April, so here's what it spits out:
- Astros 4.6
- Brewers 4.2
- Brewers WinExp: 42.99%
Go Brewers!
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A few flukish bad starts
Let’s make it a lucky 7.
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by TheJay on May 2, 2008 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Everyone still with us?
Have we all survived Black Friday?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 2, 2008 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sorta
It’s Saturday here as of 15 minutes ago, so I can at least tell you that the world hasn’t ended.
by Zeyes on May 2, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
France?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 2, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greenland?
Kidding! Just kidding!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 2, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No France is where Zeyes people
hold their victory parades ;) lol
Its funny Tragedy plus time does equal comedy
Its all about the Bullpen this season that is the key.
by WSB Chris on May 2, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not me
With Gallardo’s injury, it’s imperative that we put Ben Sheets in a giant protective bubble.
(Click the link, you’ll be glad you did.)
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 2, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...of Scientology
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 2, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 2, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then again
When Jenna Elfman owes her conversion to scientology to Murder, She Wrote...I’m sorry, Catherine, I don’t think I can go that far.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 2, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, that was traumatizing
I clicked the link without realizing my computer is playing a piano sonata. the mix was…interesting.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You were enturbulated
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 2, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's DJ Jazzy Jeff!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 2, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in dude.
Won’t it be extra fun when we win the division without one of our best pitchers?
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apropos of nothing
The Brewers have a 26.3% chance of making the playoffs.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 2, 2008 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
That’s up over the last few days. Either because of winning 2 of 3 in Wrigley (again), or because they really like Dave Bush in the rotation.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gallardo is down, but our spirits are high!
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on May 2, 2008 6:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
For the record, my thing is big, fat steaks and burgers.
And no, I can’t hit a ball.
And I’m ok with that.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude if I ever meet you
I would like to buy you a beer just for finding that video
Thanks
Its all about the Bullpen this season that is the key.
by WSB Chris on May 2, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome.
anybody know what year that’s from?
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure the date (the below site say 1982)
But here’s the whole song in its glorious entirety:
Impossible to feel down with this on repeat!
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on May 2, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember seeing it back then, but I can't give you a year.
They also broke it out years later for commercials, no doubt trying to sell tickets based on the viewers nostalgia for the late 70’s early 80’s period of relative success…
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardly newsworthy
But it’s the normal lineup out there tonight. Plus, the Brewers actually have more .300 hitters (Hart, Kendall) than their opponent (Berkman)! That’s got to be a first in a while, kind of like having fewer hitters in the .100’s. :)
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by TheJay on May 2, 2008 6:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Common sense tells me the odds of winning any particular game
aren’t really any higher when you have 2 guys over .300 than when those same guys are hitting .285 or .290, Yet psychologically, I feel much better about our chances after seeing a couple of .300+ figures in the lineup.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So how much more likely is it that LaPorta and/or Gamel will be dealt this season now that Gallardo is gone?
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 6:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alot
I mentioned Burnett in the other thread, someone even through Halladay into the mix. Joe Blanton wouldn’t be a bad guy to look at now, either.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
by Jordan M on May 2, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. Can’t trade LaPorta. No fucking way.
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 2, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gamel, though..
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
by Jordan M on May 2, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He should be moved asap.
He's the round mound of profound
by drezdn on May 2, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they have no hope for him defensively, I agree he should be moved.
But if he gets to the point where he can be even an average 3rd baseman in the field, then I think you have to try to keep him.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point. Let’s see what Don Money can do for him.
He's the round mound of profound
by drezdn on May 2, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we really
going to get anyone significantly better than Bush to justify trading away talent?
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on May 2, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so...
but there are some intelligent people who disagree.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't think so either, but...
I also would’ve figured no one would have any interest in Turnbow. However, Melvin mentioned on the pre-game show that he had received 3 calls today regarding him, not saying they were offering much, but hey, some interest is better than no interest.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 2, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting.
probably along the lines of, “if you pay his salary and mow my lawn for the next six months, we’ll take him.”
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and you have to wear a t-shirt saying I'm your hero while mowing my lawn.
And fake antlers.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're probably a couple of teams offering to trade their untradeable merchandise for ours.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that’s how Matt Wise returned to the Brewers
He's the round mound of profound
by drezdn on May 2, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be psyched
about getting Wise back.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on May 2, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's how we got Mota
So far, that hasn’t worked out so bad.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 2, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BASEBALL
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 2, 2008 7:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey
Did I mention how roguejim fucked me over yesterday?
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 2, 2008 7:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
FIGURATIVELY, folks. Figuratively.
Hardy Fox Hart.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 2, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude.
I think you have to take responsibility for 1) believing everything that RJ says, and 2) not verifying before cutting Mr. Weeks.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is my fault. I’ve accepted that.
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 2, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once my buddies and I talked a drunk guy into drafting Fred Lane (RB, Carolina) at a fantasy football draft.
Lane was dead at the time.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Now THAT’S a flyer.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 2, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deep Sleeper.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Besides
it’s your own fault for not confirming with the mainstream media. :)
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 2, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He stopped believing them when they were so mean to Hillary...
(Joke.)
(Ok, bad joke).
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bastard
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 2, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, what happened to "It's my fault, I've accepted that"?
Don’t shoot the messenger. Even if the message is entirely fictional. :)
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 2, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's Magnificent Bastard.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rickie on 2nd...
Here we go boys…
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Braun!!!
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on May 2, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There we go
Now this is the Braun I learned to love last year.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 2, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Braunie.
Let’s stomp these guys. Time to take out some frustration.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs vs. St. Louis
Who do you root for?
He's the round mound of profound
by drezdn on May 2, 2008 7:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there any question?
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on May 2, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cardinals
1. The Troll’s put me in a bad mood.
2. The Cubs are probably more talented than the Cardinals.
3. Although I’ve never been there, I think I’d like St. Louis.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 2, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
4. Beer > gum
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
St.Louis is not bad
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we were Cub fans,
we would root for injuries to both teams, and then race over t their websites to gloat about their misfortune.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice ining for villy
over 30 pitches for Oswalt too. Despite the 2 run first I’d like to see him out ASAP.
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's the swirling cloud of grit
It’s almost an optical illusion.
by Getting Yosted on May 2, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spiteful bastards.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rich Hill
just walked in a run in the 1st inning against the Cards.
by oconnobe on May 2, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just realized
He actually walked all 4 hitters. Piniella just took him out of the game.
by oconnobe on May 2, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet Lou was really nice about it too.
Probably said “way to vary your location, kid.”
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, is Hill trying to meld the Turnbow and Gallardo experience into one?
Cubs lose an effective young starter; gain a headcase with no control?
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he had a no hitter going!
He's the round mound of profound
by drezdn on May 2, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoa
look at may 22nd on this schedule. MLB sold a day!
http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=mil
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone just have a flashback to yesterday
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 2, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
totally.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So last year I said that Berkman was a shell of his old self
And I kind of thought that both he and Derek Lee were on the down side of their career. Now I don’t know what to think.
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
villa doing his best gallardo impression.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now I'm depressed again. Thanks.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
by Jordan M on May 2, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, i thought it was a good thing!
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should we try saying "he who must not be named" instead?
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope we hit some flies to left.
It’s always fun to watch Carlos track fly balls…
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if by flies you mean home runs, then i am in
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on May 2, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair point.
Nice sig, btw.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you.
i generally agree with your sentiment, besides the making an out part.
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on May 2, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a fly to caballo
has a relatively high % of turning into an xbh, even if it doesn’t leave the park.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fielder again going opposite field that inning.
He really has been working on that. I wonder if teams will start to play him straight up if this continues.
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sucks to leave the bases loaded, but...
oswalt at 59 through 3. that’s a nice consolation prize.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ryan braun def coming around
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on May 2, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cameron just looks so much smoother
in center than any Brewers CF I’ve seen in a long time.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 2, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
True dat.
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Resemblance
Anyone else notice a resemblance between Roy Oswalt and Screech from Saved by the Bell?
by statsllc on May 2, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He resembled Mr. Belding getting out the box…
by svaustin on May 2, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far I have to give the Astros announcers two thumbs up
I don’t know why Lisa Gray (THT writer) complains about them so much. She should listen to some of the other crews around the league.
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, they seem ok to me
but the bar is low—i got wgn for all three cubs games.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So a series of grunts, clicks, and wild gestures would serve as solid analysis at this point?
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as long as it doesn't make my ears bleed
it would be a step up.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that is why I find them listenable
BTW, 36 pitches for Carlos first time through the order. Can’t do too much better than that.
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i had this vision of oswalt getting a hit
I wonder how often that has happened—retire eight straight, then give up a hit to the pitcher.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Astros fan here
Astros TV guys are top notch. It’s the radio guys that are unlistenable.
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on May 2, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad you like them
I don’t get many other announcers, and being that I’m an Astros fan, I’m at least a little biased… But I haven’t heard many baseball announcers that compare to JD and Brownie(the Astros announcers). They destroy any fox broadcast by a long shot.
Go 'Stros!
by Stros Bro on May 2, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that sometimes this year
I’m going to turn on MLB 08 The Show and put on a Quick-Play game with Gallardo starting for the Brewers, and set both of the teams to the Artificial Intelligence. I’ll just sit there and watch.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
by Jordan M on May 2, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that sounds like a possible improvement
over yost :).
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't underestimate the power of the hat.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can stop holding your breath.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on May 2, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jim
seems to think September or October is possible for a Yovani return
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
by Jordan M on May 2, 2008 8:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i have also thought the stros have hit about 3 home runs from his calls...
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on May 2, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of like when you're at the game, looking away from the game to manage your nachos,
when suddenly you hear the crowd roar, look up in a panic, try to track the ball, only to see the CF drifting in at a jog to catch the ball 100ft short of the track…
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well they say 6 months with an acl...
so it is possible I guess. Unless they have to pull a Tony G and go in twice. Plus, he should be able to keep his arm strength up.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 2, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just think that's a really bad idea.
It’s 6 months from the date of surgery, which hasn’t happened yet, which would put him in early November before his recovery.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear that
If it was Sheets in his contract year I would push him to make it back, but not with a young guy you are counting on to be the cornerstone of your rotation for years to come.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 2, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems far fetched
but would be pretty cool, to have him come back for the playoffs.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MC
Hammers one
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
by Jordan M on May 2, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cameron!!!
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on May 2, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll make fun of him most of the time
but he’s sneaky good … well, sneaky average. he turns it on every once in a while.
not on the hart hit, though :).
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
Plus, he’s fun to watch, hustling or not.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That belly-flop slide by Fielder can't feel good.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 2, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Prince seems to do that every so often
he had that swan dive into second last year that registered a 3.4 on the Richter scale.
by svaustin on May 2, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES
Last week I went to Philadelphia, but it was closed.
by Citizen Braun on May 2, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can almost hear Powell complaining
about the Pitcher batting 8th here in Wisconsin.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on May 2, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
squeeze for Villy... again?
someone call Marty McSalty’s house
by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
force play at home though...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
over 100 pitches
for Oswalt.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hear a lot about Wiggington not being a great defender
and he hasn’t had tough plays, but hey he’s gettin it done tonight… unfortunately.
by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 8:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
be careful, everyone :)
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think anyone who uses the phrase "qwerty tummy" should be sentenced to experience qwerty tummy.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm with you there.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little surprised they had Oswalt hit there.
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so was the entire brewers infield
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
I thought they might pinch hit for him. How much longer does he have left?
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are pitchers hitting
against the Suds City boys this season?
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 2, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is one split
that baseball-reference doesn’t track.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like an
opportunity ;))
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 2, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha
never mind, they actually do. they don’t track every opposing position, just pitchers.
opponents pitchers hit 158/158/298
lg average: 140/176/178
take out the zambrano homer and they’re probably pretty close.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Along those lines
Zambrano pinch hit for the cubs tonight and got a hit. Hill didn’t make it out of the first inning.
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 2, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't even give up a hit and was pulled
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to tell
Whether guys are pulled because of injury or rain delay or something else. Take Kason Gabbard’s start on April 21: it looks like he might have been wild, walking three in the second inning, but it’s because he hurt his back. Merkin Valdez on April 2 of this year was pulled because of a rain delay, I believe, with the originally planned starter Tim Lincecum eventually winning in relief.
I can, however, tell you the last time a guy walked four or more in a start lasting less than one inning: June 22, 2004, when Chad Gaudin of the Devil Rays had a bad day in Toronto. He made his next start but pitched poorly and was optioned to Durham, so I guess he wasn’t injured.
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
by TheJay on May 3, 2008 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oswalt doesn't look all that bad
but he’d be a lot better off in a pitcher’s park … much more than other pitchers, i think.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Really?
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I'm just basing that on this year
but…he’s pitching better than a guy who gives up 9 dingers in a month.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just got the news on Gallardo
anyone mind if I cry a bit?
by Lake County on May 2, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not? All of the rest of us did.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just
drink heavily like the rest of it and save the tears!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 2, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a tear in my beer and I'm lonesome for Gallardo's intact ACL....
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just read the exchange between you and the cubs fan in the gallardo thread
man, these guys all come over thinking they’re the voice of reason, and we’ll all acknowledge how nice and fair they are.
and every single time, it devolves so fast.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheers.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
But I was deliberately sanctimonious because reading the earlier posts on the thread serious pissed me off. I knew I was picking a fight when I put that post up. On the other hand, what they’re doing when they show up with that voice of reason garbage is really just another form of gloating, and a less honest one at that. That’s why it devolves to fast to the more common form when you don’t thank them for being so wise.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely
amazing how fast the voice of reason thing goes away when one actually engages them. fielder-is-fat “joke” in 3…2…1…
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Needless to say perhaps
but I totally agreed with everything TSR said over on the other thread.
Born and reared in WI, I’ve always been a Brewers fan. Nevertheless,I never really cared about Cubs fans too much until I moved to Iowa to go to grad school. This is Cubs country and now I’m getting the unadulterated exposure to that perfect mixture of oblivious arrogance that only Cubs fans (and other mindless fanatics) are capable of.
So count me now a full-fledged, dues-paying member of the “universally disparaged” club. Cubs fans, in general, are the most insufferable jackasses in all of professional baseball. Hell, let’s just bump that up to all of professional sports while we’re at it (cuz it’s true).
by 400metres on May 2, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well that sucked
Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay
by verno329 on May 2, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
don't worry
we get nine more outs in this park, too.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I guess
we still don’t know Nedley’s magic number of homers you have to give up to get pulled. Whats the over/under 5?
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 2, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One more to go!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 2, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Villy last game
hit a rough patch at 80 pitches. This is no surprise.
by heybatterbatter on May 2, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we have more HRs please?
What the hell?
by Lake County on May 2, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pull the effin plug!
Whatya bet Pence is on before I get this typed?
by heybatterbatter on May 2, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i want to puke all over again
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on May 2, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
which begs the question...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So who
went and woke of Nedley??
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 2, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wainwright just hit Ramirez in the wrist
could be a developing melodrama in that series
by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is not the sort of thing that makes me feel better about our starting pitching...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hold on TSR!
Too many guys standing on the precipice of a very tall cliff right now to engage in that conversation. Show some pity ;-))
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 2, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man...
What’s terrible about all these hits is that they happened when CV was ahead in the count.
by mikeynaked on May 2, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome Ausmus
who would make up a sign like that while a guy is hitting .181?
by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 8:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Strike up the band!
Ausmus smoked that one!
HE’S ASTROSOME 4-evah!
by mikeynaked on May 2, 2008 8:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Astros announcers just said
Padres have the least productive outfield, by far.
Actually, they are third from the bottom, with an OPS of 690. Houston: 683. Washington: 603. (slugging under 300!) Adjust for park, the Padres may overtake the Cubs at 715.
Brewers are middle of the pack at 778.
Best in the league: STL at 914, followed by PIT at 898.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Man
This Yo thing is going to bother me a long time.
by Lake County on May 2, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's heard about gwynn's
massive, 250-foot blasts.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rather generous
aren’t we?
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 2, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GRIT Time!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 2, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I need
another cold IPA, going to the fridge, anyone else need one?
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 2, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I may need a new liver
After this is all said and done
by Lake County on May 2, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony Larussa is almost done with his.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else notice that RJ's last post on this thread was
right about the time that the Sci Fi Channel starts it’s original programming for the night, including back to back episodes of Dr.Who and Battlestar Galactica?
I wonder if there’s a causal relationship between those two phenomena. :)
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Two shows I never could get into
though I admit, I’ve tried.
No, we went out to dinner, where I saw the Brewers and Celtics down at the end of their respective games. Very depressing.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 2, 2008 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not now
We just lost our next Oswalt.
It’s not a good time.
by Lake County on May 2, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hi yourself.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy boy.....
no need to start a fracas on a second front just yet.
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 2, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant that in a friendly way...
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well... hello
is your set up guy any good?
by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better than our closer
Not saying much though… Brocail has been generally good this season though.
Go 'Stros!
by Stros Bro on May 2, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I heard your BP wasn't so great
and at least their ERAs aren’t agreeing
by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not
We have 3 decent guys in the BP, the rest are generally trash. Y’all just haven’t seen Villareal, Borkowski, Moehler or Valverde yet… You’ve seen our best
To give you a hint of how bad they are… Borkowski gave up a pinch hit home run to a pitcher earlier in the week… now the pitcher is Owings of the Dbacks and he’s a good hitter for a pitcher… but that’s beside the point.
Go 'Stros!
by Stros Bro on May 2, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
related note
3 pitchers have hit home runs (not counting Owings, who hit his as a PH). The Brewers have given up two of them.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea..
but how many of the pitchers that hit home runs… had a pitcher come in JUST to face them? :)
Go 'Stros!
by Stros Bro on May 2, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey
and wasn’t Pence in a slump!
What the..
by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blind squirrel found a nut
Go 'Stros!
by Stros Bro on May 2, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice job on the 5 questions...
nice to see thoughtful, non-glib answers…
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Top of the order
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Does leaving the bases loaded three times
frustrate you or give you hope?
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on May 2, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hope would be nice
My anterior cruciate ligament is bothering me
by Lake County on May 2, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carlos Lee looks downright lively
The early wind sprints must have done him good.
by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 9:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As happy as I was about yesterday's game today is just plain sad.
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 9:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am trying to tell myself that we have played a really tough schedule
and played a ton of road games and the worm will turn for the cubs and cards but man it is hard sometimes.
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd need 10 promotions
to get to sad
by Lake County on May 2, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad he is 28
I really liked him coming up. Thought he was very underrated. He is a very solid player but we are probably already seeing his peak.
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am completely miserable san diego
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on May 2, 2008 9:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
while i think it's better to take a game from the Cubs that they deserved to win
that doesn’t make it all that much easier to accept giving up a solid lead to the shitastic Astros.
by 400metres on May 2, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ausmus!
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 9:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs and Cards burning through their pens
Really looks like they are playing thinking these games are going to mean a lot.
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
this guy does have an ERA near 7
one could hope
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on May 2, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess that's kinda like a bunt
Brewers fan lost in South Carolina.
by SCBrewer on May 2, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sad
Hope Parra can keep the ball off that wall tomorrow. I don’t have high hopes as he tends to work up in the zone.
by dixieflatline on May 2, 2008 9:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sick
Here in Appleton, the top three stories on the sports part of the news, in order of importance’:
1. Jordy Nelson adjusts to living in Green Bay
2. Green Bay Blizzard highlights
3. Some Yovani Gallardo guy apparently out
4. Brewers lose
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
by Jordan M on May 2, 2008 10:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was just in Appleton last weekend.
Lordz Of Vengeance....Sometimes I drink...Okay...I drink most of the time.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 2, 2008 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just in Appleton... oh wait, I still am.
"He just needs to eat some bananas." - Lou Piniella
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 2, 2008 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I spent a week there one afternoon
hardy hart hart
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 2, 2008 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That last Prince HBP
Looked really rough.
He's the round mound of profound
by drezdn on May 2, 2008 10:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Flubbies Cards going extra innings
Chad Fox coming in and they actually had Marmol up. No way he makes it as an effective pitcher till the end of the year.
by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 10:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to think he won't
We’ll see though. The Chad Fox thing can’t be a good sign for their bullpen.
He's the round mound of profound
by drezdn on May 2, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he pitched in winter ball
he’s got about 20 innings of work in 15 games.
by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Marmol pitch winter ball? Or Fox?
I’ve actually heard a theory that Vargas (RIP) would pitch better this year because he skipped winter ball.
He's the round mound of profound
by drezdn on May 2, 2008 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Marmol - I could be wrong about that though
by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looks like you're right
He did do really well there but I imagine it’s a bit like the basketball players who besides playing for the NBA, play for their national teams, it’s got to wear you out….
And the Cubs lose.
He's the round mound of profound
by drezdn on May 2, 2008 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs lose on a Schumaker walk off
and Marmol was up a couple times.
by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There were some really sad looking Cubs fan faces at the end there.
He's the round mound of profound
by drezdn on May 2, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and hey
Ramirez was hit in the wrist and later left the game.
by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if the Cubs will retaliate and how bad it was for A-Ram. It definitely looked pretty rough. It seems like the Cards either have a lot of pitchers with poor control, or they frequently hit people on purpose.
He's the round mound of profound
by drezdn on May 2, 2008 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would guess that comes down to Lou. I wonder if he and Don Tony have any history.
I’m kind of shocked that Hill is imploding.
by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good News
The Sounds came back and beat the Bees, handing them (I think) only their third loss.
He's the round mound of profound
by drezdn on May 2, 2008 10:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
by TheJay on May 3, 2008 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs fans, cover your eyes
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on May 3, 2008 6:12 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
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NL Central Standings
| W | L | PCT | GB | STRK | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
St. Louis
|
91 | 71 | .561 | 0 | Lost 6 |
|
Chicago
|
83 | 78 | .515 | 7.5 | Lost 1 |
|
Milwaukee
|
80 | 82 | .493 | 11 | Won 3 |
|
Cincinnati
|
78 | 84 | .481 | 13 | Won 2 |
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Houston
|
74 | 88 | .456 | 17 | Lost 3 |
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Pittsburgh
|
62 | 99 | .385 | 28.5 | Lost 2 |
(updated 11.9.2009 at 10:19 AM CST)