Gallardo has torn ACL

To quote Darth Vader

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo

C. Magruder scored, R. Weeks to second on balk

by alkaseitzer on May 2, 2008 1:36 PM CDT 0 recs

I’m going to go punch myself in the face.

Steve
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com

by stigmo on May 2, 2008 1:38 PM CDT 0 recs

season over

this franchise is cursed.

by James Stanley Cocanower on May 2, 2008 1:39 PM CDT 0 recs

Crap is right

Here’s the link.

Dave Bush, start packing. Jeff Weaver, you better start pitching better, and fast.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 2, 2008 1:41 PM CDT 0 recs

Fuck me..

This is horrible news. We must bean dumbass Reed in the testicals for payback for his retarded ass slide that took out one of the best young pitchers in the game.

The good news is he’s 22, so hopefully it’s not as pronounced as it could be.

by SgtClueLs on May 2, 2008 1:45 PM CDT 0 recs

ands its his LEG

of all the FU*KING freak injuries.

You’d have expected this to happen to Ben Sheets instead.

by James Stanley Cocanower on May 2, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up 0 recs

if that was Sheets

they’d still be hosing down the field

by warwick5s on May 2, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up 0 recs

You blame Johnson, and not the buffoon of a first baseman? I actually thought that Fielder would limit his defensive damage to his inability to catch the ball at first base. It never occurred to me that he would actually harm players on his own team.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 2, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up 0 recs

Excuse me?

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on May 2, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up 0 recs

That was a terrible and stupid play by Fielder

by Marty McSuperFly on May 2, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

Hey, you're back!

Long time, no see!

I wouldn’t necessarily blame the buffoon of the first baseman, unless Gallardo leapt to keep from getting run over.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 2, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

It was dumb

Fielder’s decision to charge into the area, instead of scooping it like Gallardo expected, precipitated the action. He turned it into a race to the bag between he and Johnson, and Gallardo had nowhere to go.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 2, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up 0 recs

Are you watching the same play?

How is Fielder supposed to flip the ball to Gallardo when Gallardo is running full speed with his back turned? He wasn’t going to make it to the bag in time, there is no way Johnson is out unless Fielder goes for the tag. And furthermore, it’s not like Johnson would have slowed to a trot if the ball had been given to Gallardo, he would have slid either way.

But yeah, I guess it’s all that doofus at 1B’s fault. We should really send him down to AAA already, what a waste of space.

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on May 2, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up 0 recs

Well, then, I'm glad that out works for you

I would have rathered Johnson get the bag, and Gallardo not be caught in the middle of a bad play.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 2, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up 0 recs

Obviously

But the game isn’t played in slow-motion and Fielder made the correct play. It sucks that Gallardo was hurt but it’s no reason to insult our own players.

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on May 2, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

I blame Fielder

It was an avoidable situation, and he’s been too big for too long to not realize the consequence of his actions in relation to other people. I’m not voting him off the island, but I do blame him for that play.

No matter how baseless you may think blaming Fielder is, there is ZERO reason to attribute anything to Johnson, which is what dragged me out of my hole to begin with.

by Marty McSuperFly on May 2, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up 0 recs

If Johnson stays in the baseline

Gallardo only has to worry about not tripping himself. But since Johnson was almost in the dugout while sliding into first, YoGa had other worries.

by Getting Yosted on May 2, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up 0 recs

So assuming he's done 'til 2009...

1. What is the best case scenario for the ‘08 Brewers? Are playoffs still possible?
2. What is the worst case scenario for them?
What’s the most likely outcome for this team?
3. If Sheets stays healthy, do we trade him and restock the minors?

Steve
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com

by stigmo on May 2, 2008 1:49 PM CDT 0 recs

I think playoffs are still possible...

...but the hitting needs to come around NOW and stay there, Sheets needs to stay healthy, and Villanueva and Parra basically become the key to the season.

by warwick5s on May 2, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up 0 recs

I could see them

trading for a decent starter as the deadline nears, and still making a playoff push.

by oconnobe on May 2, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up 0 recs

i think they may need to trade for a starter

unless they feel jeff weaver is that person… ... ...

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 2, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up 0 recs

Wow

Remember all offseason when we were going to be trading 1-2 surpluss starters?

Steve
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com

by stigmo on May 2, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up 0 recs

yeah

but i still wouldn’t want vargas and i don’t really want bush either or weaver…i know i know, there’s a limited supply of good starters. yeah i’m just pissed lol

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on May 2, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up 0 recs

Hopefully

The hot bats in Huntsville will stay valuable.

by drezdn on May 2, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up 0 recs

after the game didn't I hear somewhere

that there was no swelling and he felt fine?

by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 1:53 PM CDT 0 recs

Wishful thinking

This will make it more thrilling when Cappy comes back from Rehab and gets 15 wins.

by drezdn on May 2, 2008 1:55 PM CDT 0 recs

I think that might happen...

...just as soon as Pat Listache returns and is awarded comeback player of the year.

Steve
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com

by stigmo on May 2, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up 0 recs

North Side Baseball

Stay Classy Chicago…

Check out post # 4

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=48249

Real good fans over there, when Soriano got hurt I didn’t laugh.

by SgtClueLs on May 2, 2008 2:01 PM CDT 0 recs

Karma is a Bitch

What goes around will come around they should know they have had this kind of luck for 100 years.

Its all about the Bullpen this season that is the key.

by WSB Chris on May 2, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up 0 recs

You hypocrite.

You advocate beaning Reed Johnson above and then have the stones to post this. Gimme a break.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up 0 recs

Ohh please

Please… you are comparing a payback beaning to the likes of getting your rocks off at an injury to one of the better younger pitchers in the game? When you go into a play involving 2 of our franchise players, and do an unnecessary ass slide endangering and hurting one of our best players and not expect some kind of pay back?

If this was hockey, Id say put out the fighting line. LaPerrier, it’s your turn.

Well I’m heading up to Moniqua to apparently drink till I forget what it’s like to lose Gallardo.

by SgtClueLs on May 2, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up 0 recs

Chill out

Look at the posts on North Side Baseball – all but that one either say they’re upset to see Gallardo go down because they like him (how could you not?) or because it reminds them of their injury troubles, or they bash Ned Yost. That sounds a lot like this BCB to me. Even those who acknowledge that it helps the Cubs playoff chances aren’t really gloating.

C. Magruder scored, R. Weeks to second on balk

by alkaseitzer on May 2, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up 0 recs

That's an idiotic assessment of the play.

Reed Johnson was busting his ass to get to first base—nothing more, nothing less. That’s how you’re supposed to play the game. There is no reasonable basis to conclude he was intentionally trying to harm either of your precious “franchise players.”

What’s more, it’s completely asinine to take an isolated blog post and assume it represents how any significant number of Cubs fans truly feel about Gallardo’s injury In fact, I would direct you here to see what some knowledgable Cubs fans are saying about the matter.

In short, it’s a damn shame what happened to Gallardo. But so go the inevitable risks of playing the game of baseball. And we Cubs fans know a thing or two about promising young pitchers going down to injury.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up 0 recs

Easy now

I agree with you, but take it easy on the guy. There are a lot of pissed off Brewer fans who need to vent.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 2, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up 0 recs

Fair enough.

I just want to make it clear that, as far as I can tell, the vast majority of knowledgable Cubs fans aren’t celebrating this news. (And I still think its classless to suggest throwing at Johnson.)

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

you know what else

it’s completely asinine to take an isolated blog post and assume it represents how any significant number of Cubs fans…

so you agree that wishing gallardo’s injury was worse is classless, and you thought it useful to try and teach someone a lesson about ascribing one opinion to a group of people. we got it.

thanks for dropping by. good luck to you!

Bring Back The Old Logo!

by jacob on May 2, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up 0 recs

Glad to help. Drop me a line if you ever need me to come back.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up 0 recs

will do.

i’m assuming that i can find you at bizarro bcb if anyone ever makes generalizations from anecdotes anywhere on the world wide webs? do you have a special call or signal, like the bat-signal?

Bring Back The Old Logo!

by jacob on May 2, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up 0 recs

Just raise that "L" flag you all are so fond of...

...and I’ll know there are Brewers fans in the area in need of enlightenment. Yesterday’s game notwithstanding, you probably won’t have that many other opportunities to use it this season.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up 0 recs

Are we using the flag incorrectly?

Have we raised it on days the Cubs won?

Yes, I’m afraid you’re right, now that Gallardo is out, we’ll win-at best-eleven or twelve more games.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up 0 recs

I didn't say anything about...

...how many more games the Brewers will win—with or without YoGa (ha, I kinda like that). I was referring to how many more games the Cubs will win. And it will be many…many…many…

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up 0 recs

Around 70?

That still leaves 60-some losses.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on May 2, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up 0 recs

You know what that Japanese character means, right?

It’d be sad if it meant “lobotomy case” or something.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on May 2, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

speaking of

did you see the cub fans with the “it’s an accident sign” on opening day?

hilarity. also, are those headbands that the chads wear offensive or not?

Bring Back The Old Logo!

by jacob on May 2, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up 0 recs

I know exactly what it means.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up 0 recs

Enlighten me?

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on May 2, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up 0 recs

here you go

勝

I expected something less trite when I started looking it up, too…

by Zeyes on May 2, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up 0 recs

Eamus Fermentum Fictoris!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 2, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up 0 recs

that won't work.

if my prediction holds true we’ll get to fly it 80 more times this season. i suspect we’ll only need you half that many times. hey. do you have a super-hero costume? like batman?

maybe we can call you with some kind of yodeling?

yodel-yodel-we’ve-got-a-problem-with-our-intertubes-comma-help-dave-yodelay-yodelee

Bring Back The Old Logo!

by jacob on May 2, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

If you think the Cubs are going to lose...

...90-some games this season, you just lost the small percentage of credibility I was holding out for you.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up 0 recs

What, this flag?

I think your usefulness on this side of the fence is about up, wouldn’t you?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 2, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up 4 recs

hmm.

think i have to recommend it.

Bring Back The Old Logo!

by jacob on May 2, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up 0 recs

Aww, but I just got here.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up 0 recs

enlighten me

about the gaggle of “fans” throwing beer on Braun while he was engaged in a play. There are all kinds of fans on every team, but there is a reason that Cubs fans are universally disparaged and it isn’t because they win a lot.

by ol Pete on May 2, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up 0 recs

Universally disparaged?

Who’d you get that from? Marty Brennaman? You’re in good company, ol’ Pete. And, again, this is why I’m slumming it here in the first place—because you people are making broad generalizations about Cubs fans based on ridiculously small samples. (See, jacob, you needed my help again! Good thing you raised the flag!)

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up 0 recs

Heh

Whether it’s throwing beer at opposing players, throwing a bunch of baseballs on the field in some weird, pathetic attempt to cater to “tradition”, or making racist apparel, go Cubs in ‘08!

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on May 2, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

See jacob?

Your people just don’t get it. Maybe I should set up a seminar at an area community college or something.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up 0 recs

ok daver

it was cute at first, but now you have to recognize that it’s completely asinine to take an isolated blog post and assume it represents how any significant number of “my people.”

right, hypocrite?

Bring Back The Old Logo!

by jacob on May 2, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up 0 recs

Read much?

I’m not saying all Brewers fans believe what the Little Einstein’s here at the Evil BCB are saying. I’m saying you need educate your compatriots or else they’re going to keep embarassing you and the other, ahem, knowledgable baseball fans who hang out here. Get it?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

so you missed the irony?

the “your people don’t get it” comment. generalizing from one post, the reason you started trolling here in the first place?

do you really not see it?

Bring Back The Old Logo!

by jacob on May 2, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up 0 recs

You really sound knowledgeable

Just like here.

Ha ha…no prob. I couldn’t resist going off on that one dumbass.
Now I’ve got jacob f’ing with me. Oh, well…I had to stick up for my man RJ.

Is that what you’re doing? Sticking up for RJ? Or being an asshat?

I haven’t used the actions > troll option before. I suppose I should thank you.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 2, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up 0 recs

Ha ha...I'm so busted.

OK, look, your friend…what’s his name…SgtClueless or whatever…does come off as a dumbass. I got the impression you agreed with me on that initially. And maybe I’ve made a couple of tasteless jokes at your players’ expense. I admit it, and I apologize.

But you guys should really settle down and not be so quick to jump on Cubs fans who come in here to provide some perspective. As I’ve been trying to say all along, most knowledgable Cubs fans are sorry to see Gallardo get hurt and, moreoever, we have a lot of respect for many of the players on the Brewers.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up 0 recs

Dude

We just found out our ace young star is out for the year. Just fuck off for a bit, will you? I don’t want to have to ban you.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 2, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up 1 recs

Man, you guys are touchy.

And I thought Ben Sheets was your ace?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up 0 recs

If Zambrano went down

I think you guys would be touchy too

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by jihad on May 2, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up 0 recs

I don't think I was generalizing to all Cubs fans there

Just the stupid ones who engage in those activities. If you want to think that covers all Cubs fans, be my guest.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on May 2, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up 0 recs

the sample appears to be getting bigger

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up 0 recs

So does your first baseman's waist line.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up 0 recs

actually, no it's not

but the cubs fan sample just keeps growing.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 2, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up 0 recs

and whoever had

2 hours and 17 minutes in the pool wins.

you cub trolls are all the same, you all go to the childish fat jokes as if that hurts our feelings or something. i am astounded, 100% of cub trolls at bcb have made comments about fielder’s weight. i don’t get it. why is it so funny to you cub fans to make fun of people’s weight.

Bring Back The Old Logo!

by jacob on May 2, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

I was kidding about Fielder.

He’s obviously fit as a fiddle. There, am I no longer a cub troll?

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up 0 recs

seriously though

why do you go there, why is fat funny to you?

Bring Back The Old Logo!

by jacob on May 2, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up 0 recs

Wow, I've really hit a sore spot here.

I’m sure if I looked hard enough around these parts, I could find some disparaging remarks about Cubs players’ physical attributes. We kid because we love.

Nanika Ga Okoru!

Oh, and remember, folks: Alfonso Soriano is NOT batting leadoff. He's batting first.

by dat cubfan daver on May 2, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up 0 recs