Game Thread #46: Brewers (21-24) at Pirates (21-24)
by Jeff Sackmann on May 21, 2008 4:01 PM CDT
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PrintWell, Ned held on to his job at least one more day. Ben Sheets will be starting tonight at 6:05 CT against Ian Snell. Multiple inside sources are telling me that Yost's lineup today will be:
- Hall, 3B
- Sheets, P
- Rivera, SS
- Kendall, C
- Counsell, LF
- Dillon, CF
- Fielder, 1B
- McClung, RF
- Weeks, 2B
Looks like a winner to me.
Go Brewers!
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Quick! Someone email that lineup to Haudricourt!
by MillerParkSouth on May 21, 2008 4:09 PM CDT reply actions
I was going to write, where's McClung in that lineup?
And then I saw that he was in it.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
So much for sources
The real lineup is the same as yesterday, except Counsell starts for Hall.
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According to stats.com
Whatever that is
by Marty McSuperFly on May 21, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
For the record:
The Lineup Analysis tool has that lineup at 2.865 runs per game. Could go all the way up to 3.229 with the following revamp:
1. Dillon, CF
2. Fielder, 1B
3. Hall, 3B
4. Kendall, C
5. Rivera, SS
6. McClung, RF
7. Weeks, 2B
8. Sheets, P
9. Counsell, LF
Derek Jeter is day to day after being hit by a pitch and being gorilla press slammed by a Bizarro Ray.
WSSP says Counsell @ 3B tonight
Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 21, 2008 5:16 PM CDT reply actions
Jim Powell says
“Looks like home plate umpire Tim McClellan and Ned Yost are having an interesting discussion right in front of the Brewers dugout.”
Looks like Ned is making a new friend before the first pitch.
Derek Jeter is day to day after being hit by a pitch and being gorilla press slammed by a Bizarro Ray.
holy crap!
that 3rd strike on counsell was a bs call by the way
Mendoza (Uecker) Watch: Weeks .200, Hall .207
also...2 out inning?
gameday has hardy forced out at second, then sheets grounding out but counsell advancing. so…out 3 was….?
I like Jim Powell
but for some reason he’s ripping Branyan right now. He’s not going to be a savior or anything, but is it so bad to have a power lefty on the bench?
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
i wouldnt say he is ripping him.
i think he is being realistic.
i agree with you; it would be nice to have him on the bench; he doesnt need to start like powell has suggested (playing first for prince, right for hart, etc.)
go get em' seth!
Yeah, he's not really ripping him
but his main argument is that Branyan strikes out a lot and hits an occasional home run. He’s hitting .360 at AAA right now… let’s say he hits .240 with a .330 OBP and his traditional pace of home runs in the majors – that’s more than we’ll get from Counsell and Gwynn, and maybe even Dillon.
I’m guessing he’s getting a lot of comments or emails from “casuals” saying that they should bring up Branyan because he’s hitting so good and wants to let them know that he’s not Albert Pujols.
It seemed like he was almost writing him off, which will kinda look silly if he’s called up.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
wow...and he stole on a fastball
whereas last week he couldn’t figure out how to steal on a 68mph knuckleball
by PagsBrewCrew on May 21, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
stupid gameday
skips from cam batting to braun without saying what got cam (or weeks) out and where the runners are now…
I wonder if that is the pink bat with the finish stripped
I can’t remember him not using a non-black bat other than the pink.
Yeah. Hadn't you noticed that before? I've occasionally wondered if he's asthmatic...
... because those coughs look exactly like the ones I get when it acts up.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 21, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
bunting
..with 2 outs? he must have a lot of faith in his speed
by PagsBrewCrew on May 21, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
that howl you just heard was tim mccrver.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
he's reheating
...he only had a small amount of time not on the front burner.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 21, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
braun's not quite up to .300 yet, is he?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 21, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
any idea...
how many hits in continuous ABs he’d need to reach .300?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 21, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
small sample size, but...
doesn’t Prince hit better in days after he’s been benched one day?
he’s been struggling a lot lately, despite the whole team having off on Monday.
Wow.
So that’s what having a gold glove CF is like.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 21, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions
How many pitches did Sheets throw that inning?
It’s like they want him to throw a complete game.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 21, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions
Rats!
Was hoping for a multi-hit game from Benny…
Trenni
Pirates announcers talking about how great she was with FSN Pitt. They say she is watching their feed from Milwaukee because her sister is getting married this weekend. Hopefully the Badger Blogger will have photos of the shindig.
Mendoza (Uecker) Watch: Weeks .200, Hall .207
Rickie.
Finally breaking out?
Sure would be nice.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 21, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions
Pirates announcers
amazed at how the Brewers are hitting such good pitches … they brought up the possibility of Snell tipping his pitches.
I laughed when I heard that
the only “tip” is that the Pirates pitchers suck
Mendoza (Uecker) Watch: Weeks .200, Hall .207
Of course the Brewers aren't full of Cy Youngs either
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/aggregate?statType=pitching&group=8
Mendoza (Uecker) Watch: Weeks .200, Hall .207
Eveland
complete game win against the Rays today. Gave up 3 hits, 1 walk, 1 run, and struck out 5. His ERA is down to 2.90
Mendoza (Uecker) Watch: Weeks .200, Hall .207
Hopefully
all of the weekend flights from Milwaukee to Washington are booked.
http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2008/05/21/gagne-flying-back-to-milwaukee.aspx
Mendoza (Uecker) Watch: Weeks .200, Hall .207
Dude
Rickie is looking awesome this series. Anyone playing fantasy should pick him up :)
Mendoza (Uecker) Watch: Weeks .200, Hall .207
You'll just have to drop him
when he gets sent down for Joe Dillon, so what’s the use?
by Getting Yosted on May 21, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
astros down 3-1
After Tejada hits one off Gallagher’s leg
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Phils
beating Nats 9-0. Let’s hope the Nats stay cold when the Crew rolls into town.
Mendoza (Uecker) Watch: Weeks .200, Hall .207
I am going on record now
If Ben Sheets gives up back-to-back homeruns next inning, Yost should get a reliever up immediately. If Ben gives up any more hits he should be pulled. Apparently, this is a new and revolutionary stratergery that I am looking to employ so I will put it out there early.
so...
...you’ll spot him 2 runs plus an additional baserunner?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 21, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
still...pretty generous with the bottom of the order
...Should have the reliever up after one HR, given the slot in the order.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 21, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Baby steps
It took Ned three HRs, two singles and a triple last Sheets start.
by Getting Yosted on May 21, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
El Callabo
3 Run Homer! Cubs down 4-3
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5-3
only the end of the 3rd though. holy slugfest.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 21, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it is still 4-3
I am watching on Comcast and I think this is live… wow Lee with a web gem to top it off, jumped liked Kirby Puckett on that one… he never made a catch like that in milwaukee
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
yes
and he just gave up a triple
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
But he is out of the inning now
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
he looks
like he ate some special brownies before that picture was taken
Mendoza (Uecker) Watch: Weeks .200, Hall .207
has he smashed any watermellons lately?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 21, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
El caballo that is
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
hmm
apparently sheets only threw 8 pitches last inning while giving up two hits. He’s been getting hit pretty hard all game- regardless of pitch count, I hope this is his last inning.
let him go back out for the 8th?
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
Wow
Just showed Kendall’s freak injury when he was with the Pirates. They said he vowed never to bunt again after that injury. Is that true???
I've been spacing...
does anyone know if someone is at least up in the ‘pen?
Well
If one guy gets on, you have to say Sheets is out, right?
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Look what Braun found
I don’t think he was looking at the ball when it landed in his glove.
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well
Sheets kinda cruised through that inning. I still would have pulled him after seven, though.
So
is Sheets against the Pirates the exact opposite as Villy against the Red Sox?
Mendoza (Uecker) Watch: Weeks .200, Hall .207
I feel like my life is over
Living in Chicago, the MLBtv password my friend gave me, which allowed to watch all the games last year and this year, suddenly doesn’t work. The owner of the account must have changed his password… CRAP… do I shell out the money? Or do I live through Gameday and these Game Threads?
I think I might have to shell out the dough… can’t just watch Cubs and White Sox games… Baseball tonight doesn’t do it for me…
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can you be my new friend
...so i can get gameday too?:P
by PagsBrewCrew on May 21, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
$40 a piece
could do it
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
can more than one...
...watch the same game at the same time with the same password?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 21, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
I had 5 people at work, with the same password and we all watched during Friday afternoons
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
I also think there were
500 people with the password that I used
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
heh
we should get a pool together and sign up under the name “Ned Yost” after the all-star break:)
by PagsBrewCrew on May 21, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
if the $$ is too much
gameday audio is really cheap, and uecker brings the game (though not exactly the same game as happens on the field) directly to you.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on May 21, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah...i've heard...
...but then I’d need to get headphones for my work computer:P
by PagsBrewCrew on May 21, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
or you could try audio
and if you don’t like it you could buy the tv package after the all star break for less
Mendoza (Uecker) Watch: Weeks .200, Hall .207
Can you go old school retro and point an antenna at Milwakee
Heck I don’t even know if the games are broadcast though.
it is the bottom of the order
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
i like where your head's at
too bad it didn’t pan out…
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
he's still throwing 93mph according to gameday
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
Nice
complete game. Although 11 hits is a lot for a CG. Sheets keeps the win streak alive!
Mendoza (Uecker) Watch: Weeks .200, Hall .207
ALRIGHTY
I am feeling good about the Brewers! Is this too much like playing the Giants to get excited?
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
check out
the strength of schedule article from this morning’s Mug if you haven’t yet. You will feel even better.
Mendoza (Uecker) Watch: Weeks .200, Hall .207
Has Sheets
ever thrown 126 pitches?
by James Stanley Cocanower on May 21, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions
err...
his last CG he had around that many.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 21, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't complain about an overworked bullpen
Please Ned, after today’s game, it looks like we are not just below avg, but probably one of the lowest IP for RP in the league
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
but we are beat up
without Riske, Turnbow, Gagne that started the season… I guess Turnbow got beat up by opposing hitters, but still
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Yeah
He’s had eight games with more than 123 pitches in his career, but only one since 2004.
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I looked at the 120+ pitch games
He’s had eleven of those in his career, but one of them happened in the final game of the season so I threw it out. In the ten starts immediately following games with 120+ pitches, here are the results:
10 GS, 2 CG, 4 W, 3 L, 71.1 IP, 33 R, 31 ER, 9 BB, 64 K, 6 HR, 3.91 ERA
If you extend it to the next two games after 120+ pitches, it looks like this (again throwing out end of season games):
17 GS, 3 CG, 6 W, 6 L, 118.0 IP, 60 R, 58 ER, 18 BB, 114 K, 11 HR, 4.42 ERA
I doubt there’s anything magic about going from 118 or 119 (which he’s done seven more times) to 120 pitches, but there you go.
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I almost did this breakdown
But realized how long it would have taken (over 5 min) so I stopped…
Thanks for doing this!
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any chance
we can convince Sheets to accept a 2-year contract?
by James Stanley Cocanower on May 21, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions
He will sign a Zito like contract
maybe slightly less in the years category, but maybe something like 5 years for 100 million and then suck next year, or get hurt… the key is he stays healthy this year… athletes seem to do this on a regular basis in contract years
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probably not 100
maybe 90 million
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
no win for the 10-0 start
Sorry Webb
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
ouch
ump calls Upton out on a borderline strike and the very next pitch Byrnes fouls one straight back and drills him.
Mendoza (Uecker) Watch: Weeks .200, Hall .207
the Hall benching didn't work
Since I’m not actually watching the game, I have no idea what happened to Counsell earlier (some sort of injury that he played through?) but he’s clearly off whatever game he has left. Did he look slightly broken out there during the rest of the game, or is he just being faily?
Tom H
says Ned holding Hall accountable for poor production against RH pitchers. CC looked average tonight.
http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2008/05/21/counsell-in-for-hall.aspx
Mendoza (Uecker) Watch: Weeks .200, Hall .207
Average for Counsell or for an actual starting MLB 3B?
The problem with that is “holding Hall accountable” means “starting Counsell” which isn’t exactly an improvement. I’m not even sure if it’s a defensive improvement anymore.
(And I’m not one of those people who can’t stand Counsell. He’s been one of my favorite players for about a decade. It’s just that seeing him in decline is downright painful.)
Hmmm
too bad we don’t have any other options to play 3rd base against some righthanders.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
4th place
That feels good!
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