That overused Brewer bullpen

by Getting Yosted on May 21, 2008 2:51 PM CDT

Or not. 12th in the NL in innings pitched, 5 1/3 innings under league average.

Good thing we've got those professional journalists with all that access to sources providing us with the straight story, as opposed to those shiftless bloggers who don't know nothing spouting rumor and supposition.

Team Aggregate Stats: 2008
RK	TEAM	GP	W	L	ERA	Sv	CG	SHO	IP	H	ER	R	BB	SO	BAA
1	Colorado	46	6	9	3.52	11	0	0	158.2	147	62	71	73	121	.249
2	Pittsburgh	44	11	5	3.98	10	0	0	158.1	155	70	73	73	110	.255
3	San Francisco	47	8	11	4.57	13	0	0	157.2	172	80	87	71	121	.278
4	Chicago Cubs	46	8	7	3.40	14	0	0	156.0	138	59	67	48	125	.238
5	Florida	44	9	6	3.36	8	0	0	155.1	134	58	66	76	112	.236
6	San Diego	46	3	12	4.34	9	0	0	153.1	158	74	84	64	110	.271
7	LA Dodgers	45	12	3	3.06	8	0	0	153.0	138	52	57	53	133	.240
8	Washington	47	8	8	4.12	10	0	0	153.0	148	70	75	76	118	.255
9	Atlanta	44	4	7	3.35	7	0	0	150.1	130	56	63	62	123	.233
10	Houston	47	13	8	3.80	14	0	0	146.2	149	62	68	55	120	.261
RK	TEAM	GP	W	L	ERA	Sv	CG	SHO	IP	H	ER	R	BB	SO	BAA
11	Philadelphia	46	12	7	2.86	12	0	0	145.0	122	46	50	69	101	.228
12	Milwaukee	44	10	9	4.51	15	0	0	143.2	141	72	76	91	126	.259
13	St. Louis	47	8	10	4.14	16	0	0	141.1	138	65	70	68	100	.256
14	Cincinnati	46	6	5	4.54	9	0	0	138.2	150	70	75	63	117	.275
15	NY Mets	43	4	4	3.74	9	0	0	137.0	134	57	75	53	112	.252
16	Arizona	44	3	7	3.37	14	0	0	133.2	114	50	61	53	108	.229
LEAGUE AVERAGES		GP	W	L	ERA	Sv	CG	SHO	IP	H	ER	R	BB	SO	BAA
American League		44	6	6	3.85	13	0	0	135	127	58	63	59	110	.249
National League		45	8	7	3.79	11	0	0	149	142	63	70	66	116	.251

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At least we're getting good value

the third highest ERA and by far the most walks with the 12th highest amount of innings :-/

by warwick5s on May 21, 2008 4:19 PM CDT 0 recs

so...the better indicator

might be batsmen faced (plate appearances, not ABs, seeing as walks should count) or Pitch count, rather than innings pitched. Yes, this might indicate that the bullpen is “being overworked” because the bullpen is working itself, but it’s still a form of overwork perhaps.

And here goes one of my (partly unrelated) tirades again: why the hell aren’t pickoff throws counted and considered somewhere in stats like this? I realize it’s a slightly shorter distance to 1B than home, and pitchers don’t put as much zing on the ball to first or throw curveballs, but still…it should be factored somewhere.

by PagsBrewCrew on May 22, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up 0 recs

I think the problem is regard to the definition of overused

We don’t have the insider access to the true MLB definition of overused.

The walks are what scares me.

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on May 21, 2008 4:21 PM CDT 0 recs

Us guys have no concept

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 21, 2008 11:55 PM CDT up 0 recs

Walks

Turnbow had 13 of them in 6 1/3 innings, so even throwing him out leaves the team in the lead. Taking out Turnbow’s five strikeouts leaves the team tied for fourth there.

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by TheJay on May 21, 2008 4:32 PM CDT 0 recs

The only guy maybe overused

Torres is on pace for ~110 innings this season which is a lot, even for a guy who can go multiple innings regularly. Riske was used a lot, too, until he got hurt.

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by TheJay on May 21, 2008 8:24 PM CDT 0 recs

sooner or later

Ned will realize that Torres has to be the closer. That will bring his innings down.

by James Stanley Cocanower on May 21, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up 0 recs

gagne

he wants the closers job back but everytime I look at his line. His ball-strike count are very close. plus he usually walks two per inning. He can’t be serious when he expects to get the closers role back.

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by storminTAZZ on May 21, 2008 9:33 PM CDT 0 recs

"plus he usually walks two per inning."

The ball-strike count thing you bring up might be true, but Gagne’s actually only walked two batters in the same inning twice this season.

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by TheJay on May 21, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up 0 recs

Damn you bloggers!!!

shakes fist

"You have no honor!" - McClung to Fukudome

by zsxander567 on May 21, 2008 11:02 PM CDT 0 recs

You bloggers don't understand the players

You aren’t in the clubhouse, how can make a statement about the bullpen not being overworked when you aren’t talking with the players everyday… I don’t care what the stats say… sarcasm off

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 21, 2008 11:07 PM CDT 0 recs

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