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Game Thread #47: Brewers (22-24) at Pirates (21-25)

I think a few runs will be scored tonight.

The pitching matchup is Dave Bush and Tom Gorzelanny.  You may be shocked to learn that Gorzellany is one of the few starters in the majors who have been in a rotation most of the season and has an ERA higher than Bush's.  Maybe tonight will be the night that Bush gets under six, and Gorzo heads over seven.

I'm just wondering, if the Brewers win this game and sweep the series, after winning 10 out of 16 from the Pirates last year, can we finally put the "the Pirates always play us hard / it's tough to win in Pittsburgh" cliche to rest? 

Here's the BR Game Preview.  It's kind of a shame that we missed Zach Duke this time around--four of our starters have 1.000+ OPSs against him. 

Game time is 6:05 CT.

Go Brewers!

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The Brewers trot out their regular lineup, with Hall batting seventh since Gorzelanny’s a lefty. The Pirates have Doug Mientkiewicz batting second and a guy with a 3.000 OPS batting eighth.

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by TheJay on May 22, 2008 4:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think "the Pirates play us tough"

Will have to go away with a win tonight, we would have beaten the 13 out of our last 19, a 13-6 record is a pretty good one. With a win percentage against the rest of the league, we would win 111 games, not exactly playing us tough.

Granted our success in years past in Pittsburgh has not there, but our team leader, Ryan Braun was not on any of those teams!

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 22, 2008 5:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

For the crazies out there, including me ...

Any believers in superstition or desperate to cling to any kind of lucky streak – like myself – it might be a good sign that I beat the Phillies 21-0 this afternoon on MLB 2K8. Of course, Sheets drove in 6 of those runs and Prince had two run-scoring triples in the game, so it’s not exactly the most accurate simulation.

Still, I’m taking it as a sign the bats will be alive tonight.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 5:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

6 RBI for Sheets. That is awesome.

by zsattler on May 22, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It gets better

Including an inside-the-park home run! The official scoring in the game is very generous, so a collision at the plate that led to a loose ball allowed Sheetsie to come around for the HR.

Actually, in all things Sheets-related, the game is very forgiving. I simulate a bunch of games and then play a few, and my season is in early August with Sheets hitting a shade over .300.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

injury delay

one of them or one of us? ie Prince/bush?

by PagsBrewCrew on May 22, 2008 6:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no clue – must have happened while I was getting food ready

by ol Pete on May 22, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bush hangs tough in the count

gets wood on the ball and yet another play at the plate with the Brewer called out. Corey as well.

by ol Pete on May 22, 2008 6:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bush hangs tough in the count

gets wood on the ball and yet another play at the plate with the Brewer called out. Corey as well.

by ol Pete on May 22, 2008 6:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tell me ...

Is this game as boring as it looks while I’m at work, watching without sound on a TV hanging from the ceiling about 30 feet from my desk?

Don’t get me wrong, it’s great to see Bushie hanging in there, but there’s a lifeless vibe emanating from PNC Park and straight into this office right now.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 6:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Saving it?

Are Rock and BA at least cracking wise and telling great stories about … oh, nevermind.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it is a sleepy game

This is definitely the good Bush. The Pirates are helping by reaching for obvious balls.

Home plate ump is the one of the sleepiest with his delayed soft call – McLellan.

by ol Pete on May 22, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hart!!!

my 80s rockstar/baseball playing hero

by PagsBrewCrew on May 22, 2008 6:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

not to mention

that that was the second time in recent memory he’s brought in the infield on a bunt, only to hit it over their heads – over the outfield wall…

by PagsBrewCrew on May 22, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bush!!!

It’s a good night for players with connections to music from my youth.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 7:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Frankie Yankovic-esque

Polka star from way back, dont’cha know …

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

I seem to remember this.

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by Jordan M on May 22, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he does the song parodies

Weird Al Mientkiewicz

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on May 22, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mientkiewicz

having a terrible time throwing the ball to first. Last one took two hops.

by oconnobe on May 22, 2008 7:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Scary dive by Bush

Nice hustle, though!

by oconnobe on May 22, 2008 7:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No matter how this inning ends ...

... it must be really hard to be a Pirates fan. Look at this inning, how this is going down. Bottom of the order makes a threat after a leadoff homer.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 7:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh well - no runs

79 pitches through 4 for Gorzo

by ol Pete on May 22, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bush

is hitting the Mendoza line.

by PagsBrewCrew on May 22, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Razor

I’m not sure I trust a clean-shaven Dave Bush. Now he hits a guy. Here’s the inning for Bushie. It’s always right around the corner.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ok, that was funny.

just as BA is mentioning the ‘mechanical fix’ in Bush’s delivery, Bay absolutely crushes a HR to center

by sheeter on May 22, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

fix resulted in an 87 mph slider over the center of the plate

by ol Pete on May 22, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody listening to Jim Powell?

He just said something he’s going to regret, talking about former union chief Marvin Miller:

“At age 91, maybe it’s time for Mr. Miller to take a nap.”

Yikes.

Derek Jeter is day to day after being hit by a pitch and being gorilla press slammed by a Bizarro Ray.

by KLSnow on May 22, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing

that was in reference to Miller telling the vet’s committee to leave him off their HOF list?

by sheeter on May 22, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was.

Derek Jeter is day to day after being hit by a pitch and being gorilla press slammed by a Bizarro Ray.

by KLSnow on May 22, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Christ!

Picked a bad time to go outside for a smoke break. HR, I’m guessing?

For some reason I’m optimistic they turn this around tonight.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

uh,

Bay hit a 2 run HR and some hits and at least one HBP led to the other two runs. I know that’s vague, but this is a pretty dull game.

by sheeter on May 22, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Inside info

Maddux just told him he has to hold down the L2 button when throwing the slider to get the turbo boost for added break.

This is terrible.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

For what it's worth ...

... just to repeat myself, something in my gut tells me they’re going to score enough to get back into this. At least have the tying run in scoring position late or something.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

zilch

I have nothing to say about Rickie’s one-out walk to bring up Cameron.

shhhh …

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice AB Rickie!

and did Rock just say the tying run comes to the plate? I swear he’s screwed that up so many times this year

by Scooter82 on May 22, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Weeks' eye

It’s a funny thing: On a team full of free-swingers, Rickie’s problems have nothing to do with when the ball is out of the zone. He can’t deal with when the pitcher throws strikes. Go figure.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 7:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ground ball out JJ to Prince

by ol Pete on May 22, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sunday BP

Speaking of DiFelice, was any HR you’ve seen in ages less of a surprise than that shot by Ortiz on Sunday? It was like he was measuring him for it during the whole AB, like a cat playing with a mouse.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I hear ya

It was DiFelice’s debut in the majors and it is Ortiz though. Quick inning here.

by ol Pete on May 22, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fielder hit the ball and it fell to the ground… :)

by PagsBrewCrew on May 22, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ol Pete

I’m not getting that feeling anymore about a comeback. What the hell?

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well ...

Nope, I refuse to feel that feeling again.

/clutching rabbit’s foot

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

? what happened there?

did prince get in a strange run-down after the force out at first?

by PagsBrewCrew on May 22, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that would be a good description

by ol Pete on May 22, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

got the force at first really quick and he was caught trying to put moves on to avoid tags like he was Barry Sanders

by Scooter82 on May 22, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good time for kendall's first home run

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on May 22, 2008 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

now all we need...

is 2 runs in one of the remaining innings and 1 run in the other. and hold them. to get the tie.

I have a shred of optimism coming back.

by PagsBrewCrew on May 22, 2008 8:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Seems odd to use DiFelice, a starter, for one inning

Jackson in to the delight of his family who made a truly poor effort at synchronized t-shirts.

by ol Pete on May 22, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

asdkl;fjl;askhgl;ashdfg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fastballs up are how many guys buy tickets to Nashville these days. Airlines actually accept ‘em as currency

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

see you in Nashville Jacko

by warwick5s on May 22, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t think he looked too bad – the guy hit a chest high inside fastball off the handle and the others were weak grounders.

by ol Pete on May 22, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder what the ol’ Gameday pitch graphic thing showed. From my prespective, admittedly not the best here at work, the pitch looked like it was over the inner-half of the plate and up. I don’t know, seemed kind of fat to me.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

chest high inside says gameday – I wouldn’t say fat. But it didn’t work so…

by ol Pete on May 22, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure enough ...

... 8-6 will be your final. Book it. Dammit.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

More al;sdjfkl;asjdfj;Df!!!!!!!!!!!

The next time this ump does that slow raise of the arm strike call, I want to snap it off at the elbow and beat him about the head with it.

No, not at all. This game isn’t frustrating me in the least.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it seems like an extraordinary amount of our hrs are solo shots

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on May 22, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Left-orium

How many lefties does Pittsburgh have on the roster? Have we seen them all tonight? Maybe they’ll bring in Zach Duke to pitch the 9th or something.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha!

I actually thought it happened, but Uecker was just referring to Zach Jackson as Zach Duke. He said it about three times, too, before he caught himself.

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by Jordan M on May 22, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Black humor

I love how the top of the 8th was so discouraging and sad no one even posts. Just silence on the board until an out into the bottom of the 8th.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i wasn't paying attention...

doing other stuff on my computer. i guess boring script editing takes precedence over watching our asses get handed to us.

by PagsBrewCrew on May 22, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the problem

He’s never developed any sort of off-speed pitch. It’s fastball, cutter, fastball, cutter, etc.

Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"

by Jordan M on May 22, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good night

Can’t bear to close it out. At least we’re going to Washington next. Maybe we can catch some luck there. I just hope the Brewers remember to pack all those men they left on base before heading to the Pittsburgh airport.

by Bay View Brewer on May 22, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Brewer player of the game...

has got to be hall. never left a runner on without advancing them. I guess he does do well against lefties (3 for 4?)

by PagsBrewCrew on May 22, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

statswise

cam, kendall and especially hardy were anti-clutch.

by PagsBrewCrew on May 22, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cirillo is a natural - works well combined with his knowledge

I thought Ray King did well in the two TV things I saw him on in the past day or so. He looks good trimmed down.

by ol Pete on May 22, 2008 8:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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