Game Thread #52: Braves (28-23) at Brewers (24-27)
by Jeff Sackmann
on May 27, 2008 5:00 PM CDT
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I had a dream last night that Ned Yost had been fired, and then he caught on in the Mets minor league system as a player, but people immediately started talking about him as a replacement for Willie Randolph.
Really. I had that dream.
Tonight's matchup is Tim Hudson vs. Dave Bush, which means we better milk the home-field advantage for all it's worth. Game time is 7:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
Go Brewers!
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2B Rickie Weeks
CF Mike Cameron
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
RF Corey Hart
3B Russell Branyan
SS JJ Hardy
C Jason Kendall
P Dave Bush
Branyan over Hall and Kendall in the 8 spot
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
by Kyguy922 on May 27, 2008 6:08 PM CDT 0 recs
seeing the brewers on tv
I’m back home in WI now, and we have Dish Network. Can anybody tell me what channel FSN is? I’ve been looking and I have a terrible sinking feeling that we don’t have it.
by somethingvague on May 27, 2008 6:19 PM CDT 0 recs
418?
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on
May 27, 2008 6:36 PM CDT
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1-0 Dodgers
by dixieflatline on May 27, 2008 7:06 PM CDT 0 recs
Oh dear
I went to piss after the popup and look what happened.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 27, 2008 7:10 PM CDT 0 recs
I bet Chipper can hit .400 if he faces Dave Bush every day
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 27, 2008 7:11 PM CDT 0 recs
I’d bet he could hit .600 against Bush
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on
May 27, 2008 7:12 PM CDT
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this just in:
Dave Bush sucks.
The fact that he’s still in our rotation is probabl the greatest indictment of Melvin’s work as a GM, at least in my opinion. Not even because he’s terrible, but because there simply aren’t many viable alternatives to replace him with.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 27, 2008 7:11 PM CDT 0 recs
how's what's-his-name (vargas?) doing for the mets now?
by PagsBrewCrew on
May 27, 2008 7:12 PM CDT
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last I looked
One excellent game, his first, where he got a standing ovation on leaving and one not good, where he gave up 4 in 5 innings I think. That was to Atlanta.
by ol Pete on
May 27, 2008 7:13 PM CDT
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Watching the game
In Atlanta on SportsSouth. Don Sutton did his best verbal dance to be nice in his intro on Bush. Does Bush know that if you throw a pitch down the middle twice in a row most Major leaguers can hit it out of the Park???
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on May 27, 2008 7:12 PM CDT 0 recs
Doesn't Don Sutton work for the Nats?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 7:12 PM CDT
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Especially when you're Chipper Jones
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 7:13 PM CDT
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I mean there is a fine line between aggressive and stupid
by dixieflatline on
May 27, 2008 7:14 PM CDT
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I meant that Chipper constantly has problems with his hamstrings, quads, etc
He should be minimizing the sprinting.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 7:15 PM CDT
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That too!
by dixieflatline on
May 27, 2008 7:16 PM CDT
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That was sprinting?
It was painful to watch.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on
May 27, 2008 7:16 PM CDT
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Wide
strike zone. Advantage Bush?
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
by BrewerLover on May 27, 2008 7:14 PM CDT 0 recs
Uke keeps saying change up/curve to describe Bush's pitches
The curve should bend in completely the other direction so if Uke can’t tell the difference that isn’t a good sign.
by dixieflatline on May 27, 2008 7:15 PM CDT 0 recs
It's Uke
Just be thankful he recognized there was a baseball game going on.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 7:16 PM CDT
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isn't a good sign...
of the pitching, or uke’s vision/cognition?
by PagsBrewCrew on
May 27, 2008 7:17 PM CDT
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Despite making an out that was a nice AB by Rickie
by dixieflatline on May 27, 2008 7:21 PM CDT 0 recs
Was strike two actually a strike?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 7:22 PM CDT
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Funny you say that
PITCHf/x thought it was in almost exactly the same place as ball 2 and 3. I mean basically on top of each other.
by dixieflatline on
May 27, 2008 7:24 PM CDT
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That's what it looked like to me
That’s why I asked.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 7:25 PM CDT
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Brian consistently misuses "[player] would be next"
Someone needs to tell him that you say that when that person is not assured of batting.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 27, 2008 7:24 PM CDT 0 recs
Now that Bill Schroeder retired
it’s gonna be a struggle for him for awhile
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
by jihad on
May 27, 2008 7:26 PM CDT
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speaking of Bill Schroeder
the football guy that is…
they didn’t mention the terms of his one-day contract. did he get a signing bonus?:P
by PagsBrewCrew on
May 27, 2008 7:29 PM CDT
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Braun is really remarkable at hitting those low and away pitches
A couple times this year he’s actually pulled them for doubles.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 27, 2008 7:26 PM CDT 0 recs
And Fielder going opposite field again
I know he isn’t hitting the homers but he looks good at the plate right now.
by dixieflatline on May 27, 2008 7:27 PM CDT 0 recs
Binge upcoming
I think he’s gonna have a week where he hits 5 or 6 and then everything will be good again
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
by jihad on
May 27, 2008 7:28 PM CDT
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He's almost hitting homers
I’ve been out of town and haven’t caught many of the recent games live, but going back and watching Prince’s ABs on the mlb.tv archives, he’s had a bunch of almosts.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 7:28 PM CDT
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Ugh
At least we made Hudson work that inning. Still gotta cash those opportunities in when we have them today.
by dixieflatline on May 27, 2008 7:28 PM CDT 0 recs
Even though it didn't pan out
I really love having Hart, instead of Hall, come up after Braun and Prince. When I realized Braun wasn’t going to score, I felt like throwing in the towel on that inning, but then remembered that Corey was next, not Bill.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 7:29 PM CDT
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Yeah I agree completely
It sure seems like a good batting order makes a huge difference. It sure is funny that it doesn’t seem to. Still I want Corey batting 5th and I have no idea what Yost was thinking at the beginning of the year.
by dixieflatline on
May 27, 2008 7:31 PM CDT
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"first home run of the year"
Oh how I hate hearing that.
by ol Pete on May 27, 2008 7:32 PM CDT 0 recs
of his career actually
that makes it feel that much better
Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay
by verno329 on
May 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT
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Wow Blanco
by dixieflatline on May 27, 2008 7:32 PM CDT 0 recs
I miss Claude Vargas
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT 0 recs
Gregor F. Blanco?
Check out those slugging percentages; that was his first career homer.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 27, 2008 7:33 PM CDT 0 recs
Uke says
“they are not bad when there is nobody on”. That is somewhat true but if you give one up an inning it doesn’t make much of a difference.
by dixieflatline on May 27, 2008 7:34 PM CDT 0 recs
And when you're facing Tim Hudson, it certainly doesn't help
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 7:35 PM CDT
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Fantasy talk. Ignore it if you don't give a shit.
what the deuce should I do will Bill Hall? Just play him against lefties?
Is there any other option at this point in the season?
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 27, 2008 7:35 PM CDT 0 recs
Who are your options?
by dixieflatline on
May 27, 2008 7:36 PM CDT
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A lot of guys. Only a 10 team league. Atkins is my actual 3B.
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on
May 27, 2008 7:38 PM CDT
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If you have a 10 team league then you have to cut him I think
Waaaaay to many better options. He would help a little against lefties but it can’t be worth the roster spot. IMO.
by dixieflatline on
May 27, 2008 7:40 PM CDT
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Sign him to a long-term contract
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 7:37 PM CDT
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I think I’ll just toss him in against LHP if I don’t have a better option for the day.
Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on
May 27, 2008 7:41 PM CDT
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There is no way in a 10-team league that there aren't like 30 better options than Hall in the FA pool
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 7:42 PM CDT
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Not really.
We count OPS, too.
Cantu?
I could roll Cust out there, I guess.
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on
May 27, 2008 7:46 PM CDT
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FTR...
I RARELY put Bill in the lineup
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on
May 27, 2008 7:49 PM CDT
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Jesus
That was actually close.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on May 27, 2008 7:39 PM CDT 0 recs
powell
Jim Powell going out on a limb saying B. Cox should be a HOF
by ksbrewer on May 27, 2008 7:40 PM CDT 0 recs
And you know why?
He bats the pitcher ninth. That’s how you become a champion.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 7:41 PM CDT
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kow - just commented in another thread thinking it was this one.
did you go to WFBHS?
by PagsBrewCrew on
May 27, 2008 7:45 PM CDT
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heh
I’m old.
I think I only had one friend (class of 1997) that had a brother around your age.
by PagsBrewCrew on
May 27, 2008 7:51 PM CDT
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What was the brother's name?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 7:53 PM CDT
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younger brother = Steven
3 brother family.
leaving out last names for now.
by PagsBrewCrew on
May 27, 2008 7:55 PM CDT
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Last name start with a V?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 8:16 PM CDT
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nope
5 lettered, starting with K.
actually not 100% positive the little brother went to WFBHS, despite living there. May have gone to Nicolet or off to a boarding school. May have gone to WFB though:P
by PagsBrewCrew on
May 27, 2008 8:19 PM CDT
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Looks like it would be a silent K but isn't?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 8:24 PM CDT
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errr
can’t think of any silent-K examples
only H or G
so…not sure what you mean
by PagsBrewCrew on
May 27, 2008 8:29 PM CDT
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knife knock knoll knot
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
May 27, 2008 8:30 PM CDT
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/me is dumb
yeah. duh.
no (or know?:P) not a kn name;)
by PagsBrewCrew on
May 27, 2008 8:42 PM CDT
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2-3-4 for the Braves
by dixieflatline on May 27, 2008 7:45 PM CDT 0 recs
hey Dixie - gameday accuracy question
You said that it could be inaccurate. There is pitch identification, the track of it, and the location as it reaches the plate. Correct anything wrong.
But are all three of those variable in quality? Location is the one that seems most relevant or at least that I end up looking at. How about that?
by ol Pete on May 27, 2008 7:46 PM CDT 0 recs
Location where the ball crosses the plate is by far the best variable
The track I would describe as bad and the pitch identification I would describe as not good but getting a little better.
by dixieflatline on
May 27, 2008 7:48 PM CDT
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I should note that they give you the location where the ball crosses the front of home plate
If it is still breaking toward home plate it could still be a strike even if it is off the plate at the front. I am working on a system that would record if any part of the ball touched any part of the plate but it is harder than you would think. Asking if a helix crosses paths with a funny shaped 3D strike zone thingy is kind of a mess.