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Hope he isn't contagious!

Whatever he’s got hopefully doesn’t spread to the boys in Nashville! Time to find a deal, any deal, and slam the gavel down and scream sold!

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on May 9, 2008 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I wonder what they'll do after the season

If they offer him arbitration he can’t make less than $2.5 million or so, because of the 20% maximum reduction rule. If they don’t offer him arbitration, he could just leave. Maybe him leaving would be best, but why not just release him now? I guess they’d rather him possibly work out his issues in Nashville rather than pay him to work out his issues elsewhere, but it seems odd.

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by TheJay on May 9, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I could be wrong about this

As the whole waiver thing is hazy to me, but doesn’t he have the choice of becoming a Free Agent at the end of the year because of being placed on waivers?

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 9, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

He could have become a free agent rather than report to Nashville, but since he’ll have less than six years of service time at the end of the season I don’t believe he could decline arbitration (if offered) to become a free agent.

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by TheJay on May 9, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m also kind of hazy whether he is on an “outright assignment.”

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by drezdn on May 9, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, he is

When a player out of options is sent to a minor league team, he is “outrighted” rather than “optioned”.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 9, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess you learn something new every day

I’d never heard that before. Waivers are weird.

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by TheJay on May 9, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Waivers are fun

He can reject the assignment to AAA but he would lose his contract (ie Brewers don’t pay him a cent more) and he immediately becomes a FA. Otherwise, he goes to AAA and the Brewers keep paying him. He doesn’t gain any new FA rights by going to AAA unless he has a clause in his contract like Weaver does.

by kingcharlesxii on May 9, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another thing...

Is he even arbitration-eligible if he’s not on the 40-man roster? I could be way off, but as far as I understand it he’s simply going to become a minor-league free agent after the season if he’s not back on the 40-man by then. So the Brewers could re-sign him simply for a minor-league contract at that point (which Derrick presumably wouldn’t agree to, of course, “proven closer” magic being what it is).

by Zeyes on May 9, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I should probably add

I mean “become a minor-league free agent” due to having more than six professional seasons, not due to anything related with the outright assignment.

by Zeyes on May 9, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

In Nashville

I wonder what role they’ll have him play? Will he replace Pena as the Closer, or will they use him as just a middle reliever?

He's the round mound of profound

by drezdn on May 9, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I doubt he'll usurp Pena

Pena is the best relief prospect the club has by a significant margin.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 9, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

which isn't saying much.

though you could argue that parra is the best relief prospect in the org. :)

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 9, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

indeed

At the start of the season, I read somewhere “Expect Pena to be up in Milwaukee sometime this season, as he shouldn’t have much time left in AAA”, and I was left to wonder: Err, why? Because he’s getting up there in service time? I guess I’ll believe it in case the scouts say he’s ready, but there isn’t much in his career record so far that screams “nearly MLB-ready relief pitcher” to me.

by Zeyes on May 9, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, he was a starter until midway through 2006

Also, his stats look a lot better and he looks a lot readier when you look at his 2007 stats that Baseball Cube screwed up and put on this guy’s page.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on May 9, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, I was looking at them on BB-ref anyway

I agree that 2007 was a strong year for him, but reliever performance being what it is, I’m just not sure how much trust to put in that. His second year in the FSL (2006) when he was turned into a reliever is decidedly blah, with a 4.43 ERA against a league-average of just 3.79 (and I think Spacecoast is above average in pitcher-friendliness even for the FSL), a quick’n’dirty FIP of 4.24 and a BB issued every other inning. So I’m not putting much stock into him dominating the league in his third go-around in early 2007, and his 46 strong innings at Huntsville alone don’t really convince me.

I’m willing to believe that he can become a fine MLB reliever, but I’d sure be shocked if it happens this year already.

by Zeyes on May 9, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

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