Wednesday's Plastic Cup
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 11, 2008 9:14 AM CDT
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Another day, another 500 blog entries. Let's get to it.
Much to my chagrin, Ned put the lineup back in the news yesterday. Corey Hart led off, Hardy hit second, and Bill Hall played second. I like it. As I've noted, I don't care very much about lineup optimization, especially relative to how much it gets discussed, but what I do like is seeing Ned think outside the conventional wisdom box. I wouldn't have guessed that Hall would see time at second with Weeks out, but I'm glad.
David Riske is feeling better, and could be just days away from a rehab assignment.
In-Between Hops notes the Brewers road woes, but also points out the three NL teams who have a bigger home/road differential. One of those is the Cubs, and while you'd think there'd be some Milwaukee-style hand-wringing over it in the Chicago press, Hire Jim Essian looks at the flipside: The Cubs are dominating at Wrigley.
Between the Green Pillars looks at the Brewers' Pythagorean record and doesn't see much reason for hope.
Redlegs Rundown notes that the NL Central is looking pretty good this year. We were talking about this in a comments thread several days ago, but it's worth seeing again. So far this year, it's the NL West that deserves a demotion to the Pacific Coast League. (The Mariners, on the other hand, should be send to extended spring training.)
In former Brewers news: Joe Thatcher is back with the Padres, and Raul Casanova is once again the odd man out with the Mets.
TheJay generates a list of the pitchers who have appeared in the most games without registering a plate appearance. Our buddy Brian Shouse is on the list, and it is far from the first time I've wanted to see him take his hacks.
Here's an interesting draft project: MLB Trade Rumors polled its readers immediately after each of the first 30 picks in the draft to see how much the community liked the pick. Pedro Alvarez met with the approval of nearly 90% of readres, while Jason Castro was under 15%. Brett Lawrie is right in the middle of the pack at 62%.
Check back later today--I believe we've got another draftee interview on the way, and of course the Brewers look to solve their Houston problem again tonight at 7:05 CT.
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Jeff Weaver’s making his last minor league appearance for the Brewers, one way or another, at 11 AM this morning.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jun 11, 2008 9:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
6 hits in 2 innings, 3 runs
Not a great finale for Weavy.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jun 11, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weaver
8 runs in 6 IP today. Hopefully next week he has a lawnmower in his hands and not a ball & glove!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Jun 11, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Handling a lawnmower with his hands
ain’t going to do anything for his pitching, either…
by Zeyes on Jun 11, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Between the Green Pillars
“Going forward, what this tells us is something pretty in line with common sense: The Brewers need to start outscoring their opponents more often.”
I hear that’s one way to win. :)
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by TheJay on Jun 11, 2008 9:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They could also....
stop scoring less than their opponents. That might help. I’ll take either.
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
by Adam P on Jun 11, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds familiar
“The team falls to 0-3297 (.000) when scoring fewer runs than their opponent and 0-466 (.000) in those games under Yost.”
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
by kirbir on Jun 11, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
alias?
Are you sure you’re not Tom Haudricourt?
by keephopealive on Jun 11, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have found a new straw to grasp!
The Cubs have played 23 games against the NL West, while the Brewers have played only 12. When the Brewers get their 11 games vs the PCL, they’ll be right back in it. Assuming the baseball gods are being kind and all the games are played at Miller Park.
by Getting Yosted on Jun 11, 2008 10:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade chips
Rosenthal talks trades. Of course people talk LaPorta and Gamel, but it was interesting to see Errecart and Salome mentioned. Seems like the Brewers have several players who probably won’t make the MLB team that could be used in trades.
He also talks about the Cubs going for the top starter available as well as a reliever. Seems like they are challenged as far as trading material, although I’m not familiar with their minor league system. Veal and ?
by ol Pete on Jun 11, 2008 10:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would trade Errecart in a second
Gillespie too.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jun 11, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Old man of the coaching staff
Bill Castro’s on the pitching/no PA list as well.
C. Magruder scored, R. Weeks to second on balk
by alkaseitzer on Jun 11, 2008 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and at least three other ex-brewers
that i noticed at least…
Mike Fetters
Chris Bosio
Mark Clear
Wasn’t Mark Clear (or was it Chuck Crim?) involved in a mid-inning switch where they had him pitching, switched him to first base for a batter, then had him pitch again? I’m assuming it was a LOOGY-type situation, but I was young and unaware of such things at the time.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 11, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck Crim is correct - he did that in 1989
He moved to first base in the ninth inning to let Tony Fossas face switch-hitter Nelson Liriano. After Liriano singled and drove in a run, Crim re-took the mound with a 6-4 lead and the bases loaded, retiring the next two hitters to record an unusual save. Presumably he would’ve gotten a hold for his first stint on the mound, as well.
Here’s the box score. I like how his run and earned run are recorded on different lines.
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by TheJay on Jun 11, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
has such a thing ever occurred before
or since? a pitcher staying in the game, playing another position, and coming back to pitch?
Good ol’ Tony “The Mechanic” Fossas…
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 11, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It happens every once in a while. Earlier this year Bobby Cox stuck Chris Resop in left field for one batter.
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by TheJay on Jun 11, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edwin Nunez, too, though I'd be impressed if anyone knew that off the top of their head
He spent parts of 1991 & 1992 in Milwaukee. It seems like a lot of guys on the list played for the Orioles and Angels as well.
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by TheJay on Jun 11, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one
who envisions Shouse holding the bat below his waist and swinging underhanded?
by Jordan M on Jun 11, 2008 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The ideal Shouse hitting situation
The Brewers are beating the Phillies 20-2 in the 8th. The Brewers decide to let Shouse get his first-ever at-bat. The Phillies bring in Geoff Jenkins to pitch.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jun 11, 2008 11:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And he gets an IBB!!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Jun 11, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was initially amazed that...
Shouse didn’t log a plate appearance during his three-inning save last year, but of course it turns out that that was an interleague game at Minnesota…
by Zeyes on Jun 11, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fangraphs feedback
I love the fangraphs gametrends
however I’d find it a whole lot more intuitive if, rather than having the “points” be where they label the event, they label the line segment that corresponds to be “before and after”.
I think they way they have it labeled now they have the effect of the AB/event labeled, rather than the point that they came in…but I’m never sure. Labeling the line segment, would at least to me clear up a lil’ bit.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 11, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
like this one?
does this accomplish it?
i totally agree about labeling the segment. post a note at fangraphs, or send david an e-mail. he’s very receptive and responsive to suggestions.
Bring Back The Old Logo!
by jacob on Jun 11, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep:)
I just didn’t feel like registering on another forum;) perhaps I’ll go with the e-mail method.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 11, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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NL Central Standings
| W | L | PCT | GB | STRK | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
St. Louis
|
91 | 71 | .561 | 0 | Lost 6 |
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Chicago
|
83 | 78 | .515 | 7.5 | Lost 1 |
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Milwaukee
|
80 | 82 | .493 | 11 | Won 3 |
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Cincinnati
|
78 | 84 | .481 | 13 | Won 2 |
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Houston
|
74 | 88 | .456 | 17 | Lost 3 |
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Pittsburgh
|
62 | 99 | .385 | 28.5 | Lost 2 |
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