Game Thread #65: Brewers (33-31) at Astros (33-32)
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 11, 2008 5:01 PM CDT
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PrintTonight it's Manny Parra against Brandon Backe. Last time those two squared off, Parra pitched well and the Brewers got the win. But that was at Miller Park, while the Juice Box may be the least LHP-friendly park in the majors.
I'm going to try this again, since it worked so well last time: The Brewers won't suck tonight. I promise.
Game time is 7:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
Go Brewers!
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Counsell in at second base
According to the JS blog. Apparently Kendall and the second baseman switching spots doesn’t count as a lineup change in Witrado’s mind, though since he wrote yesterday’s changes remained “in tact” who knows what he’s really trying to say.
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No Bill Hall
But Mike Cameron gets to stay in the lineup.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 11, 2008 5:09 PM CDT reply actions
That's because Counsell can't play CF
...although he’s never tried, has he? Someone should bring that to Yost’s attention, ASAP.
Reading JS Blog
makes me mad at Ned again. Here I thought he was going to let Hall get almost all of the time at second with a Branyan/Dillon platoon at 3rd. According to that, Hall will only play at second “if he matches up well with a right-handed pitcher”.
Which is better, offensively and defensively? I know what my vote is:
2B: Hall, Irabarren against some righties
3B: Branyan/Dillon
2B: Counsell, Dillon, occasionally Hall and maybe Irabarren
3B: Branyan/Hall
Village Pub
So I recently moved to Shorewood and indulged in “Tuesday 2 Dollar Fatboy Pabsts” while watching the game at the local watering hole. A local guy struck up a conversation with me, turns out. He grew up in Whitefish bay and knew Craig.
If Craig ends up at the VP some night, should I just punch him in the mouth and tell him to free Bill Hall? :)
Not yet..
That’s across the street, I’ve been there about 5 years ago but I haven’t ventured out much since I’ve been moving crap. I’m tired of unpacking crap.
Don't do that!
His only redeeming value is that a lot of fangirls find him attractive. Don’t spoil it for them! ;)
I wouldn't punch Counsell
You ever see Spiderman 3? Counsell is one of the villains.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 11, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
The Bill E situation has inspired me
Ned Yost is absolutely dog-sh!t on the road, probably even worse than Bill E against righties. So why don’t we have a strict platoon where Ned is just left behind in Milwaukee and we call a manager up from the minors to handle the split?
Same Brewer fun, but with 50% less Yost.
by Getting Yosted on Jun 11, 2008 6:06 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Or the Hall at second situation could apply
Like Witrado said on the blog:
As I said yesterday, Hall will only see time at second base if he matches up well against a right-handed pitcher.
We only bring in Ned if he matches up well against a certain team. For example, whenever the Brewers play the Pawtucket Red Sox. Or Seattle Mariners. Or something like that.
Know who else sucked as a manager on the road (compared to how he did at home)?
Cap Anson. Guy had a .658 winning percentage at home but it dipped to .493 on the road.
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Brian Anderson needs to grow a beard
He’s too clean-cut.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
That's just because of Bill's huge 'stache
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Beautiful
Braun once again brings the heat
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
I'm beginning to wonder the same thing...
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 11, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
We're waiting to match him up with D-Train
If he has more Ks than Willis has earned runs allowed he gets bumped up to AA.
by Getting Yosted on Jun 11, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
The Southern League would forfeit all their games against Huntsville
If even more prospects are put there.
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Through 4 innings now
He gave up a walk and then a double, it looks like, but managed to strike out the side anyway and now has 10 K’s through 4.
Manny's first - 20 pitches
pop-up for Pence
liner to Counsell by Matsui
single to right for Tejada
swinging K for Garfield
Abercrombie
So weird to see him around without Fitch
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
the big question...
could he strike out brett lawrie?
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 11, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
No one can strike out Brett Lawrie.
Except
Seriously though, I love Lawrie’s swing. Soooo smooth. Love how he picks up his hands before starting the swing.
What is the deal here?
Gameday tells me Russell Branyan just homered to give the Brewers a 2-1 lead. Jim Powell tells me differently.
The Gameday people are drinking on the job again
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
must have accidentally been chugging
from the Stats Inc guy’s flask.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 11, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha
Poor Dave – now he doesn’t have enough to last the whole game
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Maybe he won't need it after all
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Branyan delivers
right when we needed it
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Not running is not gritty
Someone tell Kendall. What are the odds no one criticizes him because of the reputation?
grit recourse
Kendall takes third uncontested.
Hey, to each his own, buddy
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
So wait...
Last time I looked, the Astros had two on and two out and the score was tied 1-1. I that was the bottom of the second. I gather that Branyan and Cameron homered to give the Brewers two more runs, and I saw the Hart homer. Lee hit a two-run shot in the third?
He's extremely quick and good.
somehow that caused a rip in the space time continuum. Somewhere is a gameday operator doing just fine, just not in this dimension.
just like the NBA
everything is rigged
by keephopealive on Jun 11, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
No way
He’s lost in the Delta Quadrant with a major crush on Seven of Nine and Captain Janeway
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Voyager sucked.
For the record.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 11, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
You cut me man
You cut me deep
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Sorry.
I was a bitter DS9 fan who couldn’t believe the way they shuffled that show off to the side and stole their writers to save Voyager when no one was watching. And Janeway was awful. Just awful.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 11, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I loved DS9 too
Quark was always my favorite
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
DS9 > Voyager
Also, I don’t know if you’ve read any of David Weber’s Honor Harrington books—but in hindsight, Janeway and Chakotay are a lot like Honor Harrington and Alistair McKeon (except far, far more annoying)
Now if that movie ever gets made, I am so there.
I hated DS9
at first.
Then, kind of out of nowhere, it became one of my favorite shows. Spike is airing them in syndication; they broadcast the series premiere last night.
Plus, as an added bonus, you get 3 or 4 Girls Gone Wild video commercials. :)
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
You know
Comedy Central airs a lot of those at night too :-P
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
I used to watch Comedy Central all the time
Now, the only shows I’m sure it airs are Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
ditto. with the occasional Lewis Black special thrown in.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 11, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
South Park, maybe?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
It was weak the first two years, but it got much better after that.
The seasons after the war started were in my opinion the best Star Trek ever, and I loved TNG.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 11, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
It ended well, too
It’s as if they realized that Ezri Dax was their jump-the-shark moment, and they wrapped it up soon after that.
Not too long ago, I finished watching Voyager on Spike. It wasn’t a bad premise, but boy, did that end horribly. With the exception of the Doctor, none of the characters remained interesting. (Except for one good episode: they were stuck in the atmosphere of a planet with rapidly evolving cultures. That episode rocked. I think there was a legal battle because they stole the plot from someone a sci fi book.)
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I checked out on Voyager after about a year.
I’ve caught a few later eps since in rerun, but I’ve never seen the closing episodes.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 11, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
they all were eaten by bears
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
B5
Babylon 5 > Voyager or DS9
but DS9 came in a close second.
Star Trek TNG vs Babylon5 was a tossup.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 11, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
batting first
is killing Harts’ opportunities to get RBIs
That was similar to the Dillon error the other night
Except this time it, you know, worked.
He's extremely quick and good.
Was Backe that bad tonight
they should pull him in the 4th?
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Kendall's first HR of the year
Amazing!
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Clearly the world is ending
But on a positive note, I don’t have to worry about going to work tomorrow.
by Getting Yosted on Jun 11, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Jeff
make that post about not sucking more often.
Thanks
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 11, 2008 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Corey Hart is 6'6
His head is 3 feet of that, though.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
He moved the runner over
By not swinging at the wild pitch.
by Getting Yosted on Jun 11, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
So JJ
finally get sthe motor running and Yost sits him down. They must really be best friends!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Great
I go eat dinner and this is what happens
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Chances the Brewers blow 7-3 lead?
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
according to fangraphs we had a 93% win expectancy after the Pass Ball
now only 57% Win Expectancy
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Yost
just remembered that Villy is a 7th inning guy not a 6th inning guy!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Sorry
trying to watch the game while packing for a BWCA trip with the boys. Missed the opportunity!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
I meant my response could have been funny
But the autoconvert thing doesn’t work if there’s no text, I guess.
Where in the Boundary Waters are you going? I’ve been there twice.
He's extremely quick and good.
the autoconvert works only in body text
I think.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 11, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Ya but that is fun!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
oh.
maybe it has to be following something.
(tm)
silly rules™
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 11, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Heading
to Gabbro – Bald Eagle- Kawashiwi area for 6 days. Taking my 70 yr old dad and my two sons. Should be a blast.
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Many many
years ago in the HS days. Did a 10 day trip with the Dad’s and a buch of friends. Lots of good memories from that trip.
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
likewise
well..Quetico once, BWCA once.
good place, especially Quetico
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 11, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Man, Bill LOVES Wesley Wright
Shut up about this guy already. Every damn game.
He's extremely quick and good.
"hit" used loosely
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
what just happened?
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Cameron tried to walk on ball three and then Ausmus got run in like two seconds
He's extremely quick and good.
cameron
may or may not have swung at ball 3.
1st base ump says he checked
ausmus flips out, gets tossed
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
ausmus should know
there’s no arguing balls and strikes
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I love how after he gets called safe his reactions to the histrionics from the Stros is like...
... “come on, that wasn’t even close.”
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 11, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
if fsn were a real network
we might see a useful replay of these would-be pickoffs
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
must be a Texas thing
Berkman jumps around like Tim Duncan, and then the replay shows they are full of Milorganite
I can't take Cecil Cooper as a very angry man seriously
He looks too gentlemanly.
He's extremely quick and good.
Bad news for Cubs
Soriano broke a bone in his hand and is out for atleast 6 weeks
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
making matters worse
they’re still the cubs
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
That's a big injury.
Not Gallardo big, but it’s big.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 11, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully Weeks sprained knee is our contribution to the recent rash of injuries in the NL Central...
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 11, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Is Sheets due?
Or does Gallardo cover us for all pitchers?
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
I saw that play on TV while my internet was out
Stupid comcast. Anyway the ball was up and in but not that up and in. Since he hangs over the plate it didn’t have to be in too far to hit him.
by dixieflatline on Jun 11, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't believe Villy is back out on the mound
So in colorado in a 3 run lead and him pitching great Ned pulls him. No a 1 run lead and not pitching great and Ned leaves him out there.
I hate living in Chicago
and listening to this Go Cubs Go song… I am thinking about moving back to Milwaukee just so I don’t have to hear that song on Comcast
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
We can't afford to be losing more middle infielders
by dixieflatline on Jun 11, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
It is Hurricane season
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Yeah that is kind of scary
I’d probably rather have Crabbe or Escobar start if Hardy has to be DL’ed.
by dixieflatline on Jun 11, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
It'd be kind of funny
If it worked out so 3/4 of the starting infield in one game wasn’t on the opening day roster (Branyan-Escobar-Iribarren-Fielder).
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You forgot that it was Sunday
Dillon is playing first in this fantasy.
He's extremely quick and good.
Does that mean
Counsell would be pitching?
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Neither Iribarren or Crabbe can play short
Escobar would almost certainly get called up if Hardy is put on the DL. If he’s just day to day, Counsell or Hall would fill in.
He's extremely quick and good.
I feel like Hardy is fairly fungible at his current level of play, considering Escobar
He's extremely quick and good.
Well Escobar has never played in AAA even yet
You just don’t know how he is going to react. I like him a lot and I think that would be the right move but it is kind of scary too.
by dixieflatline on Jun 11, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I'm pretty sure he'd still be a good defender anywhere
Even if he can’t hit, he’s just Hardy without Hardy’s modicum of power.
He's extremely quick and good.
He gave a pretty intense grimace
McCalvy also talked about how he regularly gets it iced after games
What happened?
Prince daydreaming about a nice juicy soy burger?
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
I was going to link to a NYTimes article
about how plants can recognize their relatives, but it required log-in so I blew it off. Maybe someone gave him a copy of the Secret Life of Plants
Ohhh
That looks like it smarts
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Bill Schroeder says the pain goes away after a while.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 11, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
and he only had one
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
I'll try again
“If the Astros need an emergency catcher, they should ask Kaz Tadano.”
He's extremely quick and good.
"Do you think Mike Piazza will go into the Hall of Fame as a pitcher or a catcher?"
He's extremely quick and good.
Dammit. Now I have to get a dictionary.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 11, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you're better off not in this case.
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Too late.
Oh, and by the way, ew.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 11, 2008 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny
I saw Hernan try to bunt in A ball. It wasn’t pretty. I guess he isn’t bunting.
I wonder who the emergency catcher is for the Astros
I’m almost surprised Geoff Blum hasn’t been behind the plate in an emergency before.
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Too bad they don't have Adam Everett anymore
I bet he’d make a nifty catcher.
He's extremely quick and good.
Beltran's 2 run HR in the bottom of 13
Wins it for the Mets, 5-2
Despite being up 3-0 in the top of the 9th with 3-2 count… and then having the game tied up, the Mets pull it out
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Seriously
Jim’s call of the ball that hit off the pole was:
fly ball…
near the corner…
Lee going back…
And it hit off the foul pole for a home run!
by dixieflatline on Jun 11, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
FSN Houston
Also said not hit that well
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Yeah
How did they get around this:
Any Playing Field constructed by a professional club after June 1, 1958, shall provide a minimum distance of 325 feet from home base to the nearest fence, stand or other obstruction on the right and left field foul lines, and a minimum distance of 400 feet to the center field fence.
That’s a note attached to Rule 1.04 which also says 320+ feet down the line is preferable.
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They needed permission for the park didn't they
by dixieflatline on Jun 11, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I would assume so
Just weird to have such a short foul line in violation of the rule AND a hill in center field. They should’ve just copied www.dailytexanonline.com/media/storage/paper410/news/2006/04/20/Sports/When-The.Disch.Was.New-1863178.shtml” target=”_blank”>Clark Field and made it an actual cliff.
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Everything's bigger in Texas
in this case, their disdain for the rules
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Or their need to compensate for inadequacy by putting a short porch in left...
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 11, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Melvin better
be working hard to lock up Corey long term!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Carlos Lee didn't even move on that shot...
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 11, 2008 9:52 PM CDT reply actions
Right where she always is
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
In other games
0-0 Giants Rockies in the 7th. Lincecum pitching for the Giants and the Giants “offense” batting against anyone.
Hope they keep his pitch count down. I don't want them wearing him out before they trade him to us.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 11, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
They are only moderately working him over
http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=28705 Nothing terrible but not like I would manager him either.
by dixieflatline on Jun 11, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously
Lincecum’s ERA is down to 2.10 with 34 BB and 86 K’s in 85 innings.
by dixieflatline on Jun 11, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.
If he was going to go Turnbow Villy and Torres would get their arms thrown off.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 11, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
gameday playing tricks
I thought Wigginton hit a homer for a second with the old “run(s)”
Since they insist on showing the Cialis commercials constantly
I think it’s funny to note that the chemical makeup has been named “tadalafil”
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Not bad
I will take the win…
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
So Sheets on the mound to split the road trip
I had kind of hoped for a 4-2 trip but you won’t hear me complain much about a 3-3 trip if they can win tomorrow.
Is this the date... everyone will say the Cubs were up 7.5 games
And Soriano got hurt, Albert placed on the DL, and the Brewers stormed back
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Thought the Gallardo injury would define the season
But maybe other teams injuries will spell their death? Granted both these injuries aren’t as serious as Yovani’s injury…
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Wouldn't it be nice?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
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