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Game Thread #68: Twins (33-35) at Brewers (35-32)

Now that the Twins have gotten 10 runs out of their system, maybe they're done.

Right?

Tonight it's Glen Perkins, making his first career start against Milwaukee, and Jeff Suppan, who has eaten innings against everybody.  Suppan, actually, is on something of a tear.  In his last seven starts, he's gone 5 or more in all of them, and given up more than three runs only once--and that was the game against the Red Sox in which he gave up four.  Alright, he's not going to win the Cy Young Award for it, but he's had a 2.66 ERA in that stretch, lowering his season ERA about a run and a half.

Game time is 6:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.

Go Brewers!

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Supp's ERA down to 3.78

That’s really pretty remarkable. Hope we get the good Supp tonight.

by ol Pete on Jun 14, 2008 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

hmmmm...

Does this mean we are trading Billy?

by Braunstalker on Jun 14, 2008 6:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Does what?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

umm

he’s at third.. never mind

by Braunstalker on Jun 14, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

anxiously wondering…

by ol Pete on Jun 14, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

speaking of trades

I looked at orioleshangout forum today and some of the trades O’s fans thought is reasonable is mind boggling. I really wish there was a thread or something where they could be collected. A lot of wondering whether they wanted LaPorta, Gamel, Parra, Escobar, Weeks and/or others in various combos for Roberts, their closer Sherrill and some mediocre pitcher.

by ol Pete on Jun 14, 2008 6:22 PM CDT reply actions  

oh yeah, one guy said if they couldn’t have LaPorta that it was reasonable to expect Fielder

by ol Pete on Jun 14, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm starting to hope we stand pat.

I’d really rather not give Gamel or Laporta up, and the guys I wouldn’t mind seeing traded won’t bring much in exchange.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 14, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

He better be careful, because the fans of a lot of teams are planning on him. Another great comment is that Hart, Braun and LaPorta would be the worst defensive outfield in baseball.

by ol Pete on Jun 14, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's just become a fashionable thing to say

Just today, BP said this about Braun’s defense:

While Hall has struggled at both third and second since moving to the infield, Ryan Braun’s transition in the other direction has gone much more smoothly. Braun has acquitted himself well so far in left—he has yet to commit an error, has a Range Factor (1.95) that is almost exactly league-average (1.92), and is middle of the pack in Zone Rating. Given Braun’s status as a first-time outfielder, as well as his struggles last season with throwing to first from the hot corner, teams have understandably tested Braun on the basepaths. The second-year slugger has responded with five assists, tied for tops in the National League with Pat Burrell and Fred Lewis. Add in that Braun has actually been better than the average left fielder by FRAA Rate, at five runs above average per 100 games, and it’s clear that his switch to the outfield has gone about as well as the team could have hoped for.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice catch. He looked kinda scary sometimes, but he’s looking more comfortable as time goes on. He does have his own style. I remember one comment that referred to a nice running catch as a Peter Pan catch. Had to chuckle at that.

by ol Pete on Jun 14, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I said it a couple of times, but Braun does look better out there than I expected.

There have been some badly misplayed balls, but not as many as I’d feared. The idea doesn’t frighten me defensively as much as it did in April.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 14, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bill with a double

And the crowd goes wild. Very fickle. I guess he still can hit lefties.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 14, 2008 6:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Soup!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 6:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Dillojo!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Be careful, boys and girls

...or Scott Elbert will eat your children:

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 6:46 PM CDT reply actions  

30 pitches for Soup so far

Could be a very quick game.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 14, 2008 6:49 PM CDT reply actions  

So, what do you guys think of the interviews I've been doing?

I know a lot of the questions repeat, but I try to give each one an individual spin. Do they have interesting info, or does it read like media guide stuff?

Unless some of the bigger-name draftees that have so far declined consent to be interviewed, I’m going to soon start to transition to some established minor leaguers.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 6:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Much better than media guide stuff. Advanced research helps. I like the comments on teammates places and things like that.

by ol Pete on Jun 14, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

just got back online

the interviews are terrific…gives me a good feel for their mindset and reminds me of my younger days. Keep them up.

by keephopealive on Jun 14, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greg Gibson HP ump

One of those guys who thinks the batter’s box is part of the strike zone for leftys.

by ol Pete on Jun 14, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Baseball is nutty

Fielder dinks it and gets a hit, while Hall hits a screaming liner that almost results in a double play.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Ducks on the pond

The bases are pregnant with potential.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Infield hit, RBI

2-1 Brewers.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was hoping for twins or triplets, but happy nonetheless

by ol Pete on Jun 14, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hello from the future

Russell Branyan has been declared emperor, and driving has been outlawed. When striking out on a journey, one must walk, at least until home is again in sight, at which point one may enter was is termed the “home run”.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Off the glass?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh man, Hart almost made a circus catch just then

For anyone rereading this later, Delmon Young’s AB in the top of the 7th.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey, the run doesn't score

The Brewers refuse to let the Twins tie them for most sac flies in an inning this series.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Suppan fans Monroe to get out of it

That was a big inning. Great game from Soup.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions  

How far back will we have to fall before we hear “Important not to fall [x+.5] games back here”?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

With the wild card, it will end in late summer or fall.

by ol Pete on Jun 14, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

There you go, Pete

Randy Choate is going on rehab on Tuesday.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh god

Major fuck-up by Corey.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Such a fundamental team MN always is.

Total opposite are the Brewers under Yost every yr.

by Flag Up on Jun 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Wooo!!!!!

That Branyan homerun might have been my favorite of the year

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Jun 14, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply actions  

LaPorta just hit a bomb for Huntsville

Hopefully a good omen.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

if...

Yost goes back to Gagne as closer I will be done with the Brewers. Torres is awesome.

by warwick5s on Jun 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Fielder!

Was it gone?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

It was gone

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man, that sucks

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions  

a K and now a hit by fresh up from AAA guy

by ol Pete on Jun 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Not good

Bottom of the Twins order is supposed to be bad.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Counsell earning his keep tonight

including an RBI! Will not complain…will not complain…

by morineko on Jun 14, 2008 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

apparently they know this

they’ve swung at 2 out of 13 pitches this inning

by keephopealive on Jun 14, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Kubel would be next"

Damnit Brian, there aren’t any outs.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

So Taveres is at 34 pitches

I kind of didn’t want him to start the inning but isn’t it time to get him now? Dillard? DiFilice? Anyone else?

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by dixieflatline on Jun 14, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Bueller?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is retarded

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Ned

The problem is that he can’t call for Turnbow in a situation like this anymore

by keephopealive on Jun 14, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mean we had arms left

It was pretty clear Taveres didn’t have it in the 11th right?

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by dixieflatline on Jun 14, 2008 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

More wiggling.

How much longer before the flood gates open though?

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by dixieflatline on Jun 14, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

What's with the roaring applause

that many Minnesota fans here?

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Jun 14, 2008 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

We need a blue 'Y' flag

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Jun 14, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually I totally understand this move by Ned

You don’t want to burn your pen up here. It was clear that Taveres could get you another 1/3 of the inning. This way if it goes to the 13th DiFelice will only have pitched 2/3 of an inning.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 14, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply actions  

But if that's the concern, why not just leave Tavarez in?

Bottom line is that if you’re going to pull Tavarez at some point this half inning before he gets 3 out, waiting until he gives up 2 runs and THEN doing it makes no sense to me. Hooking him before the runs are scored makes sense if you’re trying to win the game. Hooking him after he gives up the runs makes no sense if the objective is preserve the pen.

I don’t think it’s a Yosting, because we’ve basically been begging to lose since the 9th, but this fits a pattern of similar moves from Yost that make no sense to me.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 14, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

So Branyan, Hart, Pitcher's spot

I guess we will see how injured J.J. really is here. Braun and Fielder after that so if anyone gets on we have a chance.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 14, 2008 9:42 PM CDT reply actions  

- M. Cuddyer tripled to deep center, B. Buscher and D. Young scored, M. Cuddyer scored on center fielder M. Cameron’s throwing error

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 14, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know.

I bet even Hall would say that he should have handled that play.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 14, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

there needs to be a sarcasm color in sbnation software

by ol Pete on Jun 14, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he would have said

If I had my full time job back I would have had it.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 14, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do these interleague games actually count in the standings?

I think we should follow soccer’s lead and call them “friendlies”

by keephopealive on Jun 14, 2008 9:47 PM CDT reply actions  

The crazy thing is the Twins offense has been pretty bad this year

You would never know it from this series though. McClung tomorrow. Yikes.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 14, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

last year

I seem to remember them smacking us around last year too

by keephopealive on Jun 14, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

We actually split

I saw one of the victories in the metrodome.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 14, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

just looked at last year's results

I was remembering them taking 2 of 3 during our late May swoon. We made Boof Bonser look like Cy Young one game.

by keephopealive on Jun 14, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ned looks like he's going to cry

he’s actually making me feel sorry for him – oh wait, he’s a multi-millionaire, never mind

by ol Pete on Jun 14, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

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