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Check out the left-hand toolbar. I didn't have their ages listed before, and that seemed like more relevant information than their batting handedness, so I swapped the latter out for the former. I moved the player's level to the line below because it ran over for a few players, and I didn't like the way lines like "E. Frederickson" looked--too 19th Century. To save a little more space, I removed the "H" from pitchers' positions, so that a right-handed reliever is now "RRP" and a left-handed starter is "LSP"; reminds me of a popular joke from first grade in which you quickly recite the alphabet, omitting the letter "P", and then, when someone asks "Where's 'P'?" you answer "It's running down my leg."

Oh, as you'll notice, it runs through #26, not 25. I figured the 26th spot would be a nice way to highlight a player I like but who hasn't played much or at all yet and wasn't a high-round draft pick. We'll call it the "BK's Recommendation" slot.

So, post what you like, what you don't like, suggestions, death threats, etc.

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Periard over Seidel?!

Where do you get THAT from? I can’t believe someone would even think to…oh, yeah, I have no idea what I’m talking about. :)

I like the new format, though. I’m assuming that last spot has to say “26” and not “BK” or something?

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by TheJay on Jun 19, 2008 10:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha

I know you’re joking, but I actually somewhat agonized over that pick. Periard, like Anundsen, has some strikeout stuff he hasn’t tapped into yet, I think, but still has had some good success (and he’s also a level above all of his fellow non-Jeffress/Braddock pitching prospects). Seidel, on the other hand, hasn’t really had any success, but has a ton of “projectability”—the dude is 6’6”, so he earns points for simply hanging in there (as opposed to Brent Brewer, who also has tons of projectability, but who has utterly sucked seed).

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 19, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

awesome!

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by jacob on Jun 19, 2008 10:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

for comparison

some interesting differences between battlekow’s list and brewerfan.net’s power 50, and haudricourt’s list.

brewerfan.net power 50
evan anundsen +11
steve hammond +8
omar aguilar +6

luis pena -9
brent brewer -11
hernan irribarren -12

haudricourt
brantley +16
lucroy +10
gamel +4

nick tyson -6
mark rogers -13
brent brewer -18

to be fair brewerfan.net’s list is from 6/1 (pre-draft) so it’ll be interesting to compare to the update. also, to be sort of fair, haudricourt’s list is actually baseball america’s list though he effectively takes full credit for it in his post, also this is from february, but since the self-proclaimed most knowledgeable write about the brewers farm system chooses not to share his insight this is the best we can do.

so questions for BK, why no brent brewer love, and what’s special about anundsen?

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by jacob on Jun 19, 2008 10:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Makes sense he'd take credit for BA's list

Doesn’t Haudricourt actually write Baseball America’s Top 10 list for the Brewers?

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by TheJay on Jun 19, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he has said he contributes...

though i’ve never seen baseball america credit him for it.

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by jacob on Jun 19, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and 4 second later

after a sweep of the intertubes…

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/features/263202.html

“by haudricourt” so yeah, at least he wrote the 2007 list.

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by jacob on Jun 19, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He usually writes them

I think John Manuel does when Haudricourt doesn’t.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 19, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brewer's line, 172 AB's: 0.221 0.302 0.320 0.622

I was more confused not seeing Pena on the list, but I see him in the 40-man roster section. I assume he’s ineligible for the ranking then.

by Jordan M on Jun 19, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luis Pena's #17

They do start to blend together if you look too long. :)

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by TheJay on Jun 19, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

good call. I guess the 40-man roster theory isn’t right either, because I see Escobar on their.

The point about Brewer is right though! He’s not hitting, and he can’t play defense. Yay high-ceiliing prospects!

by Jordan M on Jun 19, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, Pena's eligible, I'm just not that excited about him

He’s been less-than-dominant in AAA. He might be a future set-up guy, which has value, but when that’s your ceiling, and you’re still not a lock to reach it, you’re not a very good prospect.

As a bit of a comparison, Steve Hammond is probably the most likely of anyone on this list to contribute at the MLB level. He’s a lefty starter with respectable ratios who can throw a lot of innings. He’ll never be an ace, but he’s very close to reaching his ceiling of an innings eater, which to me has much more value than a 7th inning guy with control problems.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 19, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Hammond too

Hopefully he pitches well in AAA for a while and is looked at as a major leaguer next year.

by Jordan M on Jun 19, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anundsen

He’s young and has flashed strikeout stuff; he’s kept his K/9 constant at just below 7 despite moving up a level, which is nice to see. I think he’s still got some improvement in that department left in his tank. His ace in the hole, though, is a pretty 2.54 GO/AO ratio. He’s my favorite of the glut of young pitchers at the lower levels.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 19, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To me, Brent Brewer is just another tools bust

I mean, the light bulb could still go off, but last year’s line was the kind of line that’s acceptable if it’s followed by improvement; it’s the kind of line you tolerate from toolsy, raw prospects. However, this year, he hasn’t just stagnated, he’s completely reverted to not being able to play baseball.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 19, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what?! no Lawrie?

Is there some eligibility thing like you have to be already signed or playing, or are you just not very high on him?

by keephopealive on Jun 19, 2008 11:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There's only two things I hate in this world.

People who are intolerant of other people’s cultures…and the Dutch.

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by TheJay on Jun 19, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't include anyone who hasn't signed yet

Bad juju.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 19, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dig it

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Jun 19, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I dig it too

Which is why I gave it a rec…

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jun 19, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Prospect Deathmatch!

Baseball America recounts Lucroy’s AB against Madison Bumgarner:

Bumgarner began his inning by blowing away Lakewood’s Michael Durant (Phillies) on three pitches, but things got much tougher against West Virginia’s Jonathan Lucroy (Brewers), a mature right-handed hitter who’s been extremely tough on lefties all season, having struck out only five times in 62 at-bats against southpaws. Lucroy fought Bumgarner over a 10-pitch at-bat that saw him get ahead in the count 2-0 and then 3-1 before having to foul off one Bumgarner fastball after another. Lucroy fouled off five consecutive fastballs in all before he finally squared one up and lined it up the middle, but Bumgarner snared it at about waist-level for the second out of the inning.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 19, 2008 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Monday, 9:30pm on FSN

is some “Spotlight” show on the Brewers 2008 draft.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 19, 2008 3:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

Out of the 26 picks, only 2 are in AAA (Steve Hammond at 11, and Luis Pena at 16). That’s not many.

Also, Hammond is 26 already, though he’s a leftist lefty left-hander, so I think that’s OK. :)

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 20, 2008 8:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

AAA is for suckers

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 20, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and people

with broken down cars

by molitorfan on Jun 20, 2008 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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