Brewers favorites to land Sabathia, according to Buster Olney
"If the C.C. Sabathia trade rumors were a horse race, he writes, as of today these teams would be the favorites:
1. Milwaukee Brewers
2. Chicago Cubs
3. Los Angeles Dodgers
4. Texas Rangers
5. Boston Red Sox
The problem is, he notes, some of these teams may or may not be in contention by the trade deadline; and/or could be bluffing."
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C.C.
is actually good. I don’t see the Dodgers actually attempting to acquire talent. It isn’t in line with their track record.
by Braunstalker on Jun 21, 2008 5:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Their GM may be trying to save his job
A lot of trades that are give up the future for a few more games in the present occur when the GM is on the hot seat.
by dixieflatline on Jun 21, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this just speculation
or has there been an actual link between the Brewers and Sabathia?
I would hate to lose a top prospect, but that might actually be a good thing. What if we packaged Gamel in a deal for Sabathia? Travis Hafner is old and struggling this season anyway, and considering Gamel’s shakey defense trading him at peak value to a DH-needy team might be the most value we could get out of him. Assuming we lock down Sheets (as I think we should), we would suddenly have: Sheets, Sabathia, Gallardo, Parra in the wings as a starting rotation. Best starting pitching in the NL ML?!
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on Jun 21, 2008 5:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, it's from Buster Olney
He’s a Real Journalist that doesn’t live in his mother’s basement, so he appears to be reporting Actual Facts.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jun 21, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As to the rest of your post
I would happily trade Gamel or LaPorta for Sabathia given the right circumstances.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jun 21, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
only...
...if we can get a contract extension upfront
CC is only on contract for 3 more months. He wouldn’t be worth a couple of supplemental picks when he becomes a free agent at the end of the season, if we’ve given up Gamel/LaPorta/Escobar.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 21, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Given the right circumstances
If we need him for a playoff push-and I mean a real playoff push, not like last year with Linebrink-I’m all for trading Gamel or LaPorta as part of a package to get him.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jun 21, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if the trade happens now and he is with the club for 4 years
would I consider trading any top prospects.
by brewfan2 on Jun 21, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're going to do that kind of deal
I’d prefer Grienke, or someone who will be here a while, unless as previously mentioned a contract extension is agreed upon beforehand. If that’s not the case, if Sabathia’s a rental I don’t want to give up Gamel or LaPorta. Anyone else is fair game.
by Jordan M on Jun 21, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like a little more time to see if were for real
We’ve been great recently, but relying on some people playing out of their minds (Branyan, Mcclung, Suppan, Parra, Torres, Kaplan).... maybe this is the Brewers year, but right now our one-run game record is downright scary, and I’d like a few more weeks (not Weeks) to decide whether mortgaging the future is worth it.
by keephopealive on Jun 22, 2008 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Bomb chimes in
Because of tampering rules, Brewers general manager Doug Melvin can’t address Sabathia, or any player on another club, specifically. But Melvin made it clear that he’ll explore every trade scenario that might help his club, including big-ticket players (Sabathia has an $11 million salary) who might be short-term "rentals."“We did that with (reliever Scott) Linebrink last year,” said Melvin, who traded three pitching prospects to San Diego for the veteran reliever who departed as a free agent after the season.
“As long as we’re competitive, we’re willing to listen to offers on any players in trades,” said Melvin. “That includes the top players. We have players that we feel would be attractive to other clubs. It just depends what they’re looking for.”
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jun 21, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
let me rephrase
“Because of tampering rules, Doug Melvin can’t say anything interesting. He probably wouldn’t tell me anything anyway.
”’Write the same damn story you’ve been writing since November,’ said Melvin, who did a bunch of stuff that you’d already know about if you weren’t illiterate.
”’We like to win ballgames, and we’re going to try super hard,’ said Melvin. ‘Everybody does. Some of our players like to win gangbangs, too.”
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 21, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can Shin Soo
play center? and could we get him too. I would me quite tempted to pull the trigger on one of my beloved 9 Laportas…
by Braunstalker on Jun 22, 2008 2:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nine career games total in the bigs, none recorded in the minors, but until recently, the position was just recorded as generic "OF"
I don’t think he’s the answer to the CF question, though.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jun 22, 2008 2:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sportsticker has Choo with
mostly CF appearances in A-ball in 2002/03, but almost exclusively in the corners (RF the first year, later mainly LF) since Double-A. Cleveland may feel that he can play CF in a pinch, but I’m guessing Seattle didn’t.
by Zeyes on Jun 22, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
looking at it more, I might have got this the wrong way around…his 9 CF appearances in the majors were all still with Seattle, and he hasn’t played a single game in center field for Cleveland’s AAA club in a year and a half, either.
by Zeyes on Jun 22, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the fact that those howe/sportsticker pages show up on Google searches now
I’m 99% sure those aren’t supposed to be publicly available.
A nearly identical set of data appears behind a milb.com wall that’s supposed to be limited to teams and approved/paying media people.
Naturally, I wrote a spider to get all of that stuff for my own database just in case howe takes the public page down :).
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 22, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ironically enough
The reason I even became aware of that site is that it’s the only place for decent stat coverage of the indy leagues. Ultimately I’m guessing your site and the BB-Ref minors offshoot will have all that data and then some, at least for the affiliated minor leagues, so I can go back to only using Sportsticker for the indies. :)
In any case, they don’t even have a robots.txt on the site so if they’re trying to stay under the radar, they’re not doing very well at it.
by Zeyes on Jun 22, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, I don't think they're trying
maybe somebody thought they’d stay under the radar if nobody ever publicized the site … but as soon as that first link gets published, google finds the whole thing.
FWIW, unless BB-Ref buys rights to the historical sportsticker stuff (which I’m guessing is expensive, and Im guessing they won’t), they’ll always be the only ones with any kind of pre-05 splits.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 22, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Visiting from LetsGoTribe … the guy you want is Gutierrez. Plus-plus defender for CF — huge range and great arm — fringy hitter but with big power potential. Nobody really knows what he or Choo will turn into as hitters — neither is any kind of slam-dunk at this point — but Gutierrez is already one of the top defensive CF in the game.
by Jay on Jun 27, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have...
Harden, Bedard, Greinke, or Cain…i hate trading prospects for two months of a player. With those four we’d have control of them for a couple more years and strengthen the rotation post-Sheets
by marty22 on Jun 22, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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