Laynce Nix, You Dummy
by roguejim on Jun 23, 2008 8:25 AM CDT
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In perhaps a brazen attempt to prove he belongs in Wisconsin, AAA outfielder Laynce Nix was arrested early Saturday morning in Nashville for DUI. He allegedly had three mixed drinks, was caught speeding, and failed a sobriety test (a test he later claimed he passed).
He posted his bond, and was out of jail by Saturday night.
Schmuck.
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Mixed drinks?
Dude, you’re a professional athlete. You drink beer or shots. (When you make the pros, you can afford rail drinks.) If you’re drinking Fuzzy Navels, you deserve to be arrested, girlyman.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
One thing makes sense
Officer: Have you been drinking tonight, sir?
Nix: No, sir, I have not.
Officer: Please spell your name for me.
Nix: L-A-Y-N-C-E
Office: OK, you can stop right there. You’re under arrest.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Jun 23, 2008 9:01 AM CDT reply actions 8 recs
You know that his brothers name is spelled with a “Y” also
J A Y S O N
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I honestly forgot
That we even had Nix in our system still. I really thought this guy was going to pan out, dang, oh well. See ya in another life brotha!
I love how people love to hate on others when things like this happen, but give the guy a break crap happens and in Nashville if you check the paper they were out looking for people this weekend and even pulled over a NFL player. Also look how bad the Sounds are playing right now these guys are taking beating after beating and they need a break. I do not like that this happened and nor do I feel that it is good to drive after drinking but Laynce is a good player and deserves a break
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 12:12 PM CDT reply actions
Ummm
I’m confused. Give the guy a break because crap happens in Nashville? Because the team’s not having a good year? And because of this I shouldn’t call him a schmuck?
I guess, how would you have written this little blurb on a Brewers blog?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
What break?
Nix committed a dumb crime that potentially put people’s lives in danger, he doesn’t deserve a break because his team is having bad luck. I doubt Nix will take muck flak for this anyways though, unfortunately. Personally, I think it’s kind of ridiculous that the league will do nothing to Nix but they suspend Jeffress for 50 games.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
What crime?
Other than a disputed field sobriety test and a claim of speeding, there isn’t enough there to conclude guilt.
Give me a break
He was in all likelihood driving over the limit.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
He admitted to 3 drinks before driving
Last September, I was the foreman on a jury that found a guy guilty of OWI after only drink (or so he claims). All ties go to the credible police officer.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Sounds Soviet to me
I wonder just what a “credible’ police officer is? And the “tie” goes to the government? Sure.
The cop was "credible"
He had records of what happened, he had years of experience, he had no reason to lie. The defendant had none of these. In this particular case, when asked to offer an opinion on two contradicting stories, where one of the two is not telling the truth, there was just no reason to think the defendant was telling the truth and the cop wasn’t.
If Laynce goes to trial, and THAT jury is wading through testimony, they too will probably be asked to choose between a police officer and a guy who admitted to drinking three fuzzy navels. Unless there’s video of Laynce only having three drinks, and driving safely and without recklessness, I have a hard time believing he’d win.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
You list a bunch of meaningless shit
and ironically having a video proving that he only had three drinks is meaningless as is absolute proof of driving perfectly. Neither of those provide any evidence of innocence.
Police officers have plenty of reasons to shade the truth or outright lie when testifying if the facts don’t support their case. They are trained to “convince” juries as well.
Tie going to the government is an abomination of the American legal system.
Wow
Well, this wasn’t a case of innocent until proven guilty, or where reasonable doubt was a possibility (as was explained to us in the jury instructions). I’m not sure what to tell you, other than you probably would have found in favor of the Brookfield PD as well.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
WOW
Did you see if he floated? You were a jury forman and you list a bunch of meaningless shit. That’s really scary. And no, I favor the old, rapidly becoming anachronistic system of legal proceedings. Tie going to the government isn’t included. The idea that someone would admit to that and then lecture about morality, particularly when there isn’t much evidence of guilt is Milorganite.
Well, your insults don't bother me
a bit juvenile, but whatever.
I will say, though, that in the voir dire, we were asked if we would be able to convict without proof of a failed breathalyzer, and some people said they couldn’t. That’s fair, and if you are in that camp, I can respect that.
This is a little off topic, but I LOVE legal proceedings. The law, and the constitution…they’re fascinating to me.
I’m also interested in the fact that you’ve “convicted” me already. At no point did I present the evidence that WAS there in this case. My only point from above is that, when credibility is an issue, the guy who admits to drinking isn’t often going to win over the police officer.
Step off, George. Step off.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I am actually glad that he admitted to it I am sure that in Nashville this will help that instead of trying to completely hide the fact that he was drinking he admitted to this.
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I would think so too
Not only because it suggests he’s a stand-up guy who made a mistake (and not a serial boozer who drives drunk regularly), but also, if this were to go to trial, it probably wouldn’t be hard to prove otherwise.
If he chose not to take the field sobriety test, that might actually help him. (Well, especially if he thought he were over the limit.) I’m curious to see what happens.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
he is a stand up guy and like I said he could have easily passed all the “field tests” but refused to blow and still been arrested
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
As much as it pains me
Pete has a point. In few of these cases are the police disciplined, and only in the most obscene cases of abuse are their transgressions made public. Given the blue line of silence they choose to live behind, I don’t really give police the benefit of the doubt any more.
by Getting Yosted on Jun 23, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stupid links
href=”http://www.theagitator.com/category/police-professionalism/” >This should have been in the previous comment
by Getting Yosted on Jun 23, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
I wasn’t going to get into it this much, but I’m not all trusting of the government, or the police. I believe the blue line of silence absolutely exists. Still, I don’t think it played a role in this case, and I’m guessing not in Nashville either (though you never know, there could be someone with an axe to grind over privileged ballplayers).
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Not to go all black helicopter
But there have been cases where cops have their arrest/ticket forms pre-filled with what the suspect did, just waiting for a name and vehicle ID and abuse the vague ‘imparement’ standard to get the conviction and revenue that comes with it. Lacking actual video evidence of the impairment, I doubt I could find a person guilty just on the word of the officer.
by Getting Yosted on Jun 23, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, there was more than that
But you’re not alone - not having a breathalzyer test was a dealbreaker for several would-be jurors. On the flip side, not taking breathalyzer shouldn’t be a get-out-of-jail free card, either.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
That's why the on-dash cameras are important
If the person isn’t visibly impaired, and are not slurring their speech then it should be difficult to convict someone of being too impaired to drive. If they are, then even absent a breathalyzer a conviction should be relatively easy.
That said, its also why it is so damning to the officer’s credibility when the cameras aren’t employed.
But we’ve gone far afield from mocking Laynce for the spelling of his name and Melvin for his penchant for ex-Rangers, and should probably get back to that. Anyone heard if Sid Ponson has signed with the Yankees to save us from that horror show?
by Getting Yosted on Jun 23, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
3 drinks is plenty
...to get you drunk off your ass.
Mixed drinks often have 4 shots or more of alcohol, each of which is equivalent to a beer.
If you drink that down in less than an hour and then hit the road, especially if you haven’t been eating, you’re liable to swerve all over the f*cking place.
I don’t know the circumstances of this particular case, Laynce’s tolerance, or even what the legal BAC limit is in his state (0.08%? 0.1?) but even if he passed the field sobriety test he was probably at least buzzed.
Driving under the influence just ain’t cool. If I’ve ever had in excess of one beer/wine in the last hour, I will never drive even though I “feel” I can handle it. I don’t want to put another life in jeopardy just because I feel good.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
If you have a LIT (long island tea) the % of it is a lot more than say just a vodka cran. Usually in a regular drink there is 1.5 oz of liquor depending on the bartender. All in all none of us on here can say wether Laynce was drunk or not we do not know and were not there, also who knows what time he was actually piceks up on Nashville the last call is at 2:30 am and most places make you claer out a hour later. And I know for a fact that most of these guys when they go out there is no sense of timing their days and nights are totally diff. from ours
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, there are all sort of variables
How strong were the drinks? Did he drink all of them, or leave some empty? Were they on ice? From the trial listed above, the list went on and on. (Funny, I had a long island iced tea on Saturday. Good stuff, that.)
I’m curious as to why he was pulled over. Is it just speeding?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
No he made a U-turn on a street where the main precient is in downtown
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
no u-turns allowed?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Remember we are the SOUTH and they dont believe in many around here not like they do in TEXAS if it was at a legal U-Turn place then they strictly got him on the speeding thing first. I do know that the downtown Nashville Streets are very confusing as I have grown up here my whole life and do not know a lot of them.
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
when i drink
i leave most of my glasses empty
otherwise I would not have had the drink:P
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure, crap happens
But this seems like something he brought upon himself.
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No, he doesn't
I don’t care if his team sucks, you don’t drive under the influence. If he had hit a car and killed a little kid and his mom, would you still be saying he needs a break?
I’m pretty sure if anyone in the major leagues got pulled over, no one would really feel that sorry for him either. If you do stupid things, you have to deal with the consequences, and that was pretty dang stupid.
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Yeah! What she said!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
It's legal to drive under the influence of alcohol
as it is to drive and talk on a cellphone (in most places) and to put on your makeup while driving and to eat while driving.
This is interesting.
OK, then, ol Pete. Let’s try a hypothetical.
The only facts you’re given in a hypothetical but familiar case is:
1. The cop pulls a driver over and says the driver failed a sobriety test.
2. The driver says, yeah, he had 3 drinks, but he did not fail the sobriety test.
You have to pick one. Who are you going to believe?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
If you have ever taken a “bar” class you will learn that it affects every person differently and that it takes your liver one hour to process on drink so in this instance if he was at a bar for over 3-4 hours and only had 3 drinks he would have passed. In the State of TN if you refuse to “blow” on the breathalizer then you automatically recieve a DUI wether you pass all the other field test or not. So in this case if laynce refused to blow but passed all the other tests then he syill would have been arrested.
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait
So, if he had 3 drinks over 3-4 hours he would have passed, but alcohol affects everyone differently? How can you say one without contradicting the other?
It sounds like you’re saying he could have had 3 fuzzy navels and been barely able to walk out the door, or have been totally fine. Even so, apparently his driving behavior was enough to catch the attention of the police.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
No what I said is that in TN at the “ABC” class they tell you that it takes the avg persons liver one hour to process one drink this is a known fact, but it does affect every one differently. If you read the report on the news Laynce did make a U-Turn and then was speeding so yes that did grab the attn of the police. And I highly doubt that Laynce is drinking “Fuzzy navals”
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I know for a fact
he had two fuzzy navels and a sex on the beach.
you have a poster of him on your wall, don’t you. c’mon, you can admit it.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Now is this cause you were right there drinking them with him?
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
He’s a bad tipper, too. :P
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
So why dont you let me know what bar you were at?
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
LN prefers his privacy.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
He is a pretty quiet guy and I really dont need to know where he drinks
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Well you all have fun I am on my way to watch the Sounds play and hopefully we will win at least Turnbow is not starting…. And we will see if Laynce plays tonight or not
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe TG Jr. set him up!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
What?!?!?
He was driving in a hotel room with a hooker while snorting coke?
That’s the only time that excuse works.
by Getting Yosted on Jun 23, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he was drinking fuzzy navels
the rest is accurate though
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
What difference does it make?
But like I said, its legal to drive under the influence of alcohol. That was the point. You do it don’t you? How about using a cellphone or eating? How about fooling with whatever you use to play music?
I agree
Have you ever tried changing a wax cylinder while driving?
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I don't mess with it
I’ve trained circus fleas to play Jeff Sackmann’s Greatest Hits for Tenor Sax in the back of my car. You should hear them play The Girl from Ipanema.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
i use
my wife to play music.
sweet, sweet music
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
well
I didn’t need to read that.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Yeah, it is legal to drive under the influence of alcohol
up to a certain point. If you pass that limit though, you deserve whatever is coming to you.
Yes, alcohol affects everyone differently. However, part of being a responsible drinker is to know how it affects you. If you don’t and you don’t care to find out, then you really have no business drinking.
And, sure, driving while putting on makeup is legal, but it’s really stupid and no one should do it. I’ve known people who’ve gotten pulled over because of their driving stupid while putting on makeup. Same goes for eating or talking on a cell phone.
I don’t understand why everyone is trying to defend someone who in all likelihood deserves the trouble that he’s gotten himself into. Again, this all goes back to consequences of actions. You should be prepared to accept any and all consequences that go along with you actions, or you better not be participating in them.
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
What NFL player?
I didn’t see any report about anyone else. Of course, this is a blog devoted to the Brewers…
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I am not saying what he did was right but I cant stand it when people jump all over others for making a mistake… Should he have driven if he was intoxicated absolutely not did he I do not know that will all have to be proven. I sometimes think that people forget that pro athletes are people too and make mistakes
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply actions
Now THATS crap
No he doesnt deserve a break, nor does anyone who acts out such behavior. The response to it is perfectly fine, its not as if every time people see him now they’ll go “hey there goes drunkie!” He broke the law and committed a moronic act so no, he doesn’t deserve a break. Nor should anyone else who drinks and drives. People jump on others about mistakes BECAUSE they’re MISTAKES. You’re not supposed to do them! Is that not registering with you?
"You have no honor!" - McClung to Fukudome
Hey there goes drunkie!
I so hope he makes the Brewers now. :)
I kind of get Nashville’s point, sort of. However, the “mistake” was not a bobble in the outfield, or doing 60 in a 55. Driving drunk is serious business. (I know of what I speak: my neighbor is serving a 15 year sentence in Waukesha County prison for getting buzzed, driving in a snowstorm, and crashing into and killing a fellow driver.) I don’t think calling Laynce a schmuck is being too hard on him.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I know how serious this action is and do not believe that he should have driven, but let me ask you this how many people do actually drive after having a couple drinks? Do you always think about exactly how much you have had before you get behind the wheel? I just think people should not throw stones unless they know the truth about the situation.
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 2:31 PM CDT reply actions
No, that's fair
I’m sure there are lots of people who think they’re fine to drive after a couple of drinks - and some of them are, and some of them aren’t. I don’t know if Laynce blew Tennessee’s legal alcohol limit (Nashville, do you know what it is? I think it’s .08% in Wisconsin) or if he thought he might be over but was OK to drive anyway. Regardless, from what little we know, it sounds like a pretty severe error in judgment.
Maybe it’s a case of Laynce now know himself very well, but I really have a hard time dredging up any sympathy for him. I’m just glad he didn’t hurt anyone, or himself.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I don't know what Laynce blew either
But I think we can all agree that he blows.
He's extremely quick and good.
At one point the legal limit in TN was 0.1 however once the new law (where if you dont blow you are arrested ) they changed it to 0.08. It was an error in judgement but I can honestly say that METRO was out and looking this has happened before where a Titan and Sounds player were arrested on the same weekend..
As for Laynce blowing have you watched this guy play?
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions
He has done pretty well in Nashville and helps the team out when he plays considering that we are stuck with Turnbow right now that says it all about our pitching…
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions
Yea thanks you all can have the headcase back at any point you want…
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 3:07 PM CDT reply actions
Just a tip
If you hit the “reply” link at the end of the post, it will open a box for you to type in and thread your reply in-line with the rest of that topic, so it’s properly indented.
He's extremely quick and good.
Thanks i thought I was doing that but guess not
by nashvillesoundgal on Jun 23, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
yep
tough to remember on the last post on the page.
sometimes I accidently just type in the box directly below it anyway.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
who r u nashville sound girl?
you just got one of these today and really are defending laynce… i think i got alot u can know bout this stand up guy…... ;)
Why I don't "feel bad" for Laynce Nix
He admitted to having three drinks and driving. In all likelihood, he had more (not shockingly, drunken driving suspects tend to “round down”.) He also refused the breathilyzer. In some places, that will cause an inference of intoxication. Finally, I have the least sympathy for him because he can afford to take a cab if he wants to go out drinking or leave his car at a bar if he has had too much. Nashville probably has many cab companies that make endangering others lives unnecessary.
Nix should be suspended. If not by MLB, by the Brewers.
This Guy needs to get bounced
Why do the brewers keep around sucha shady guy, the guys picks up on high school girls everywhere he goes and is constantly in trouble in his personal life, now its finally being picked up on by police, i mean i thought iwas gonna see him on To Catch a Predator one of these days…. Go Laynce…
I'm going to go out on a limb
...and guess you don’t actually know anything incriminating about him.
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Lets jus sayy
I know alot about him cuz he is always tryin to mess with my stuff
so you're saying
Todd Jones and the US Military wouldn’t like him much?
why your stuff in particular?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
Buy “your stuff,” do you mean “your junk”? That would be quite a scandal.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
haha
yea, lets say he is constantly textin and calling a certain someone im involved with… he doesnt ever stop.. ever… the guy has no idea how to stop…. he is a big fan of the young girls
Let's ease up the on the serious character assassination unless you're willing to provide details
He's extremely quick and good.
"tryin to mess with my stuff"
“textin and calling a certain someone im involved with”
..this illustrates that you consider a girlfriend your property. Maybe he only sends your girl texts because she responds? Plus, is she 18 or what age? In any case, she’s probably capable of making her own decisions on the matter. And if not, suggest that she get a restraining order against him.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
i know he is your lil home town boy, i talk to the brewers alot too and proly gonna be in this organization, but the stuff he writes to her and the past stuff i know bout him is just down right nasty and i just think the guy is classless and you get what you get…... sorry if i offended u guys, just it gets old
I don't think you offended anyone
It’s just a bit problematic to go around writing such vaguely poisonous things on a relatively anonymous internet forum. It’s one thing to joke about the situation and the guy’s baseball playing ability, but your insinuations are getting pretty nasty. I mean, if they’re true, they’re true, but you have to be willing to back up those kind of statements and allegations with facts, or swallow them.
He's extremely quick and good.
ok..
the guy dated my girl when she was 16 he was 26 …. she broke up with him last year for me and he will not stop writing absolutely absurd nonsense to her on a weekly basis, she rarely responds and he continues week after week…. I just have no respect for his predator actions or his general disrespect …. plus he blows literally and figuratively in all aspects of his recent actions
....
i mean if u know the guy im sure he knows exactly who and what your talkin about….
Sorry guys.
I don’t have any policy on stuff like this, since it’s so rare that this sort of content appears on the site. But I’m not comfortable with some of the directions this is going, and it seems like people have pretty much had their say (sometimes about eight times over). So I’m closing comments.
Also, cheese.
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