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Game Thread #77: Brewers (42-34) at Braves (38-40)

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Here are some fun facts that make you wonder what's in the water in the NL Central.  There are five teams in baseball with better records than the Brewers right now.  Two of those are in the National League, and both of those are in the Central.  The Brewers are a half-game better than the East-leading Phillies and 2.5 better than the West-leading D-Backs.  For the record, we're also a half-game better than the AL Central-leading White Sox.

All good things must come to end, though, at least for Cardinals fans.  The Crew is only a game and a half back of second place and the wild card lead, and while the Brewers continue their set against the Braves, the Cards meet the Tigers.  (Are they good this week or not?  I can't keep up.) 

Today's pitching matchup ought to be interesting: Dave Bush goes for the Brewers, about a month after he shut down the Braves at Miller Park.  You're also probably aware that's coming off his best start of the year.  Both of those outings were at home, though, and his road ERA is over eight.  (Nowhere to go but down, right?  Let's hope...)

The Braves have had to turn to Richmond again and again, and so it is tonight, with Charlie Morton on the mound, making his third big-league start.  Both of the previous two were interleague matchups, and he even managed a quality start in one of them.  Always interesting (and often depressing) to see how the Crew does against pitchers they've never seen before.

Game time is 6:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.

Go Brewers!

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"Nowhere to go but down"

That must be Turnbow’s motto… which would still be better than Kapler’s “mantra”: ‘I prepare, therefore I am prepared,’

by keephopealive on Jun 24, 2008 4:15 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

6th best record

Not bad… when I saw the Brewers record as being 8 games over .500, it didn’t seem like it was that long they were under .500… impressive turnaround they have had lately… on pace to win almost 90 games… stay hot!

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jun 24, 2008 5:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow.

That’s possibly a greater theory than the theory of relativity. Or could they be linked?

Nonetheless, +1 rec for you, good sir.

Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 24, 2008 5:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kendall Units

Best post so far today.

I think you need to do a study on Kendall units for each of our players. I’m interested in the Kendall unit count on Craig Counsell. That has to be a pretty high grit factor.

by SgtClueLs on Jun 24, 2008 6:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd also like to see

Kapler
and former Brewer Tony Graffino

And does Branyan have grit, given the number of times he’s been in the minors?

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 6:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm suspending myself for one game*

For the Laynce Nix diary. Not for putting it up, but I was kind of overly glib when I wrote it, and now I feel bad. It wasn’t a particularly mature posting.

I’ll forfeit one day’s BCB salary to the Jeff Sackmann Baseball Reading Is Fundamental program too.

*Unless the Cubs lose, in which case I’ll post the flag, lest the Kow beat me to it.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 24, 2008 5:57 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

blasphemy

Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 24, 2008 5:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

P.S.

The followup post you made within that fanshot was frickin’ awesome.

comedy gold.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 6:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But...it's a blog!

Maturity isn’t welcome, let alone required.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 6:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Weeks

Manages to get on base while simultaneously hurting his batting average. How low does he want that thing? :)

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 6:11 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Weeks

...should be required to get a minor injury when mired in a month-long slump

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 6:11 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Geez

Weeks has transferred his defensive issues to the Braves tonight.

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 6:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

what’s that? 3 errors so far?

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 6:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

On pace for 40.5 for the game.

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 6:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well...

we haven’t seen which Bush will appear.

George W
or George HW

or perhaps Jeb (of the Beverly Hillbillies of course)

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 6:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sheesh

What’s going on with the Braves tonight?

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 6:17 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Morton

Small consolation that Escobar and Francoeur conspired to make the runs unearned.

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 6:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

generous strikezone on the first pitch vs 3rd batter.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 6:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Clean inning

I was worried the team would feel obligated to return the defensive favors.

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 6:26 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait, what?

They caught the ball?

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 6:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Braun is squaring up on this guy

Next at-bat he’s hitting one out.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 6:37 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Totally

.267/.365/.500 ain’t cuttin’ it round here.

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 6:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what are you looking at?

08 #s w/ 2 out, RISP is 231/286/333

link

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 6:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Career numbers

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 6:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ah yes

come on. why use a larger sample when a smaller one is right there?

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 6:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know, right?

Related: this Weeks kid should be cut. 0-2 tonight and it’s only the third inning!

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 6:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so should Fielder

he hasn’t even managed to get on base yet. Geez.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 6:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly!

Why can’t everyone hit like Kendall?!

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 6:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kendall?

c’mon JJ at least;) higher OPS today.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 6:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bronson Arroyo must not want to leave Cincy

His name has been in trade rumors and he is getting lit up tonight.

by ol Pete on Jun 24, 2008 6:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jays chased him in the 2nd. Currently 10-1

by ol Pete on Jun 24, 2008 6:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Scary thought

This year, Bush allows an 844 OPS the first time through the order, a .588 OPS the second time.

Naturally, he did a little better than 844 OPS against the first time today.

Of course the 6th/7th inning is always the test, but Bush certainly looks like somebody who has turned a corner.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 6:56 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DP here

lets get back to facing the minimum

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DP

got one but probably not the kind we were expecting

by molitorfan on Jun 24, 2008 7:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

damn...was hoping for a pickoff from 2B

oh, well…no minimum anymore
and no hitter and PG are out the window

lets just aim for a high quality game now. Shutout?;)

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 7:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

Ball hit him in the foot so they went out to check but he is still in.

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 7:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow..

Prince beat someone?

by SgtClueLs on Jun 24, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's beaten

plenty of catchers trying to block the plate.

by molitorfan on Jun 24, 2008 7:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A rather fleet footed player as well.

by ol Pete on Jun 24, 2008 7:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is this the 70's?

This is the worst game I have seen the Braves play since the Ted Turner years.

by statsllc on Jun 24, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

with this many errors

you might have to go back to the 1870s.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 7:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously

I went to 2 Nats games in the last 3 days and even they aren’t this bad.

by molitorfan on Jun 24, 2008 7:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One more out for Bush...

...and his ERA is under 5.00.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also

The starting rotation is eight shutout innings away from a collective ERA under 4.00.

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 7:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow!

that’s almost blue jay-esque.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 7:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think she's

interactive GB’d out.

those first couple nights were too much for her to handle.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 7:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fwiw

we’re no longer an interactive gangbang.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 7:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmmmm

maybe she liked that format more?

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 7:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

perhaps

but that just goes to show, she has no concept.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 7:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh no

a format change when the Crew is hot? You are not gritty.

by molitorfan on Jun 24, 2008 7:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Threw his helmet down after getting tagged out by Prince on a close play. Liner to prince and a foot race to the bag.

by SgtClueLs on Jun 24, 2008 7:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Complaining too vocally about the call at first

On Prince’s unassisted DP.

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 7:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

from mlb.com

Brewers: The Brewers could make a run at Sabathia because owner Mark Attanasio has said the Milwaukee budget again allows for a big-ticket acquisition.

If the Brewers are in an acquisition mode, they almost certainly would focus on starting pitching. They hope to fill the void left by injured Yovani Gallardo.

Maddux or Wolf from San Diego might fill the bill. The Brewers may dangle Bill Hall, who has requested a trade. Another possibility would be considering offers for Ben Sheets before he reaches free agency. ====
so, brewers wish to acquire Maddox or CC, but wish to ditch Sheets for the playoff run this year. perfect sense:P

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

please

not so much of the Yost cam

by ol Pete on Jun 24, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When using Kendall Units

how does one rate Kendall himself?

by ol Pete on Jun 24, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would assume Kendall

has 1.0 Kendall units at home on average over his career.

his current Kendall units may be higher than 1.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 7:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good question

Well you’d assume 1.0 Kendall Unit is the average Grit Kendall shows over the course of a season. But since his Gritness play goes up and down, I’d say today he is playing a good 2.25 Kendall Units of Grit.

by SgtClueLs on Jun 24, 2008 7:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

got one better

we’re the Brewers…
so Kendall Estimation of Grit

KEGs

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 7:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Metrics

Now we need someone (I’m looking at you Dixie) to come up with some kind of actual metric. Some how we have to make the KUG an official stat.. well at least on this site.

by SgtClueLs on Jun 24, 2008 7:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gorzellany baffling the Yankees

Yes, Gorzo of the 6 plus ERA. Putting up some runs as well.

by ol Pete on Jun 24, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bush:

4.89 ERA

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Neds Kids.. I think.

by SgtClueLs on Jun 24, 2008 7:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

especially since

they’ll all be managers in the farm system

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 7:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They begged, but I turned them down

I have better fry to dish.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 24, 2008 7:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Daughter?

Well I’m single again, so that’s my in. I’ll destroy the Yost family from the inside and finally get him fired.

by SgtClueLs on Jun 24, 2008 7:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well..

She might look like Ned with Boobs.. constantly putting her hands in her arm pits. She also can’t be very good at Math, since she her family has math on their side.

by SgtClueLs on Jun 24, 2008 7:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the kids almost seemed too good looking to be Ned's

that makes me thing Nedly may have bagged a looker. If so, the daughter might be good looking.

by ol Pete on Jun 24, 2008 7:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 - 0 Os

Triple just put the Os up 2 – 0.

Top of 4th 1 out one on.

by SgtClueLs on Jun 24, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whereas

Detroit is falling apart vs the Cards over the last couple innings.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 8:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Guys, this is a big, big day

Hitaniel Arias got his first professional hit. Should I send cake or flowers?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 24, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a cake

with pictures of flowers on it

by molitorfan on Jun 24, 2008 8:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

coaching in Helena

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 25, 2008 11:05 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another great start for Evan Anundsen at WV

6 IP, 0 R, 3 H, 0 BB, 4 K.

7 of the 9 WV hitters have an RBI; Gindl homered.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 24, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jeffress also had a great start

8 K’s, 2 BB, 3 H in 7 shutout innings for the complete game win. Braddock got shelled in the second game, though.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 24, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bush

wow, this is quite unexpected.

by molitorfan on Jun 24, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey, Fresno State came back!

6-run third makes it 6-5 after 3.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

six outs to go

Do we see eighth inning guy™?

by ol Pete on Jun 24, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Something I've been meaning to ask for awhile

How creepy is that Cedar Crest Ice Cream commercial they play on the radio?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 24, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dixie's blue plate special

Greinke has 5 K’s through 4 IP with only 3 baserunners allowed tonight against the Rockies.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 24, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Prince

Two unassisted double plays in the same game – kind of strange.

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 8:15 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unassisted DPS

Thats the first time since October 7, 2001 (Richie Sexson) that a Brewer first sacker has two unassisted DPS in the same game.

by statsllc on Jun 24, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

if Sexson and Fielder have both done it...

just goes to show that it isn’t particularly related to fielding skill.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 8:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Addendum

That does tie the MLB record for UDPS by a 1B.

by statsllc on Jun 24, 2008 8:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so no one has ever had 3?

or does he have a few in other games?

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2008 8:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wracking their brains for 2B in the HR derby

Ryne Sandberg won it in 1990.

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 8:25 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damion Easley of all people

In it in 1998. Who’da thunk it?

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 8:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tampa Bay losing to Marlins 3-2

Gabe G hasn’t played yet so if they need a pinch hit walk off, he’s available.

by ol Pete on Jun 24, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a bummer

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 24, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Tomahawk chant

is some pretty impressive stuff.

by Braunstalker on Jun 24, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Must get outs to get save.

by Rawiswar on Jun 24, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

couple of really nice plays here

and now the Braves TV guys are going into “lots of ways to score from third base” mode.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Corky Miller

I can’t believe he’s still in the league.

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Corky Miller

I can’t believe his name is Corky.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 24, 2008 8:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He was very good on Life Goes On.

by Rawiswar on Jun 24, 2008 8:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He went 1-for-57

From 2004 through 2006.

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 8:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

um

Whatever happens here, I hope Torres gets the day off tomorrow.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on...

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Jun 24, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t understand walking a 103 hitter on 4 pitches.

by Rawiswar on Jun 24, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh..

I miss the low stress games.

by SgtClueLs on Jun 24, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Braves

Another one run loss and a rough 13th save for Torres.

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by TheJay on Jun 24, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thank god

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Jun 24, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh right...

that’s another 1-run loss for the Braves.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 24, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My bad. I was being a pessimist on 3-0.
Torres trying to up Ned’s one run game victory total.

by Rawiswar on Jun 24, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Post-game thread is up.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 24, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

6-1 :)

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Jun 24, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Cincinnati 39 39 .500 3 Lost 1
Houston 38 40 .487 4 Lost 1
Pittsburgh 37 43 .462 6 Won 1

(updated 7.4.2009 at 10:31 AM CDT)

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