Game Thread #80: Brewers (43-36) at Twins (44-36)
If we're going to win the series and have a chance to go 8-7 in interleague, it would be a good idea to beat the Twins tonight. It might not be easy; you may have heard that the Twins have something of a winning streak going.
Manny Parra pitches for the good guys while our hitters will presumably continue the home run barrage against Livan Hernandez.
The Cubs and White Sox are already in action--it's still the second inning and the Sox are up 4-2. The Cardinals start their game when we start ours. Also tonight, Ty Taubenheim makes his first appearance in more than a year, his first start for the Pirates.
Game time is 6:10 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
Go Brewers!
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Playing Bill Hall Today
Who is 3 for 10 against Hernandez I guess… Prince DH… Branyan 1B… don’t want to link the JSOnline blog to give them more hits… but as soon as stats.com puts it up… should post it!
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
yeah, in the words of Witrado
... the more unexpected move is Russell Branyan moving to first base and Bill Hall playing third. Hall is 3 for 10 against Twins starter Livan Hernandez, a right-hander, so that’s probably why Ned Yost went with this lineup.
Call me a Yost apologist, but I dare say that’s not going to be the reason Ned will give for playing Hall. 6 for 20, yeah, that might approach Ned’s lower limit for chasing after pointless small-sample-based advantages, but 3 for 10? Even Ned shouldn’t be so dumb to base a decision on that, but it’s interesting that Witrado thinks he would. (Either because he thinks Ned is that dumb, or because Witrado actually thinks that his own sabermetric “insight” makes sense here.)
Yost frequently refuses to answer questions
The “picking names out of a hat” or “woke up to take a piss” answers are his way of balling up his fists and stomping out of the room. Anything to do with his own players or the umpiring almost never get an honest answer. Organization responses to injuries are often untrustworthy.
Just about everybody seems to hit .300 against Hernandez. My guess is that its just a way to get at bats for Billy so the cobwebs don’t grow too much.
I wonder
If Yost is really playing Hall for his defense. With Parra pitching, in theory, shouldn’t there be more plays at third? Though I think defense-wise it might be a wash between Hall and Branyan
Coffee is for closers
as pointed out in the Cup thread
That (along with the matchup stats) would be an argument for playing Cap’n Craig.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
hall for better defense?
what games have you been watching this year?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 28, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Hitaniel Arias
The Official Rookie-ball Prospect of BCB had the best game of his (very short) career today, with a triple, two walks, and two runs scored.
He's extremely quick and good.
The Dominican god of walks?
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Give him a break, he's only 17
Plus, he may only have five years under his belt.
He's extremely quick and good.
I thought bk was obsessed
but you’re watching him in the shower?!
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Any other fun shower stories you'd like to share today?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Shh, don't interrupt Brennaman, he's selling the nation on the D'backs
He's extremely quick and good.
Man
if the White Sox are the good guys, I think I’ll be watching Wimbledon replays for the rest of the summer.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
well played.
though so many players wear ankle braces on the court that it looks like they are wearing black socks.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
this is a totally flip response to something that is serious...
...but is it just me, or is there an awful lot of family news on that site?
Maybe it’s me that’s weird, but I can’t imagine talking about something like that (or a grandparent dying, or any other family misfortune) on my sports blog.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
He does go into way more detail than I would
But his site is really closely tied to his livelihood, so I’d imagine he feels some pressure to explain absences.
He's extremely quick and good.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Another philosophical difference: I think it’s completely insane to tie one’s livelihood to one’s sports blog.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
and, actually
that we know that his blog is so closely tied to his livelihood is more evidence of how much he talks about personal stuff.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
just because I have similar hair...
doesn’t mean I feel the same way :).
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Infield in, Ramirez grounds to short!
Lee doesn’t score. Two outs now.
He's extremely quick and good.
I went to this deli to grab some food
and they had the chi/chi game on. I arrived just in time to see the final out. So wonderful…until the shot of Guillen high-fiving everybody. Couldn’t there have been a way for both teams to lose?
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
after never losing more than two in a row the first couple of months...
the Cubs now have had two three-game losing streaks in the last couple of weeks alone. Keep it up, guys!
Gagne just walked behind JJ during that interview snippet
The hit failed! Everybody scatter!
He's extremely quick and good.
twins guy:
“Rule #1 against this Brewers offense: don’t issue walks.” [blah blah they come around to score blah blah]
“Ball four.”
Also, cheese.
I don't know
I don’t even know if that’s a joke :).
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
ah.
yes, I think it was him.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
BA says Livan does "all the little things you want to see in a pitcher"
Unfortunately, none of the big things, though.
He's extremely quick and good.
one big thing
he does show up. and he’s big.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Yikes, now that headline was scary at first glance...

Never a good idea to put “Gagne” and “closer” right next to one another.
Or "Gagne" and "Homer-happy," for that matter.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Good to see our newest defensive wizard prospects coming up
A portion of Arizona’s boxscore tonight:
FIELDING
E: Cequea 2 (2, fielding, fielding), Zarraga (3, throw), Garcia, J (2, fielding), Paciorek (3, fielding), Robulack 2 (2, fielding, missed catch), Sanchez, L (2, fielding).
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Yeah, I love that Zarraga has three errors already.
On the bright side of things (the offensive side, of course), Caleb Gindl hit a two-run double in the first. He’s really heating up.
He's extremely quick and good.
So, could you say he's become something of a sparkplug?
That would make him “Gindl the kindle.”
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I was going to make a smart comment about how much he walks
and his .360 OBP, but I cannot compete with that type of reply.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Yeah.
“Gindl the kindling” doesn’t have the same ring.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Sad but true!
Manny Parra and Livan Hernandez have identical WHIPs.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
that's right folks,
it’s S&M night here at the ballpark…
as a fan of good pitching
mostly M.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
And I'm not there?!
Crap.
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Apropos of nothing
Livan Hernandez has thrown only 38243 pitches in the 10 1/2 seasons the Brewers have been in the National League.
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BA
I wonder if he gets paid for letting people know the runners are going on 3-2, 2 out pitches.
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He's in his own little world
And sometimes that’s funner than the games :)
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
are you saying you're in the booth with him?
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess you could say he does. Additionally, guys who throw sliders oft times become more effective as they tire.
Also, teams that hit a lot of home runs score a lot of runs
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"While it's only one inch, it makes a difference"
Care to comment, kirbir?
He's extremely quick and good.
It's true
I’ve seen an improvement in Braun’s “performance”
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
damn
you fell for the “I’m Ryan Braun” line at the bar last night after having those 3 long islands? Can’t believe it worked.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 28, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I knew that fake ID was a bad idea...
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Something tells me the German National Team wouldn't play a lot of small ball.
He's extremely quick and good.
they'll be too busy punning.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy crap
That was awesome
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
How soon until we get a lecture from Rock about how it’s not over yet against this lineup (italics symbolize dread)?
He's extremely quick and good.
shortly after
he talks for 5 minutes about how parra has one hit and shut them out so far.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 28, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if
Delmon Young is getting the ‘smallball’ treatment this year. 1 HR in 280 ABs? That’s worse than Counsell. Maybe he’s in a David Ortiz situation where they make him try to hit groundballs to the other side all the time.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Young seems like the lost fourth member of the Washington Nationals outfield
All black, all theoretically good, all really bad.
He's extremely quick and good.
reading a post in a Twins blog
before their streak, when things were much gloomier, his characterization was of a guy who hits mostly ground outs
Going into his last start, Parra had walked 3 lefties all year
Now, in his last 8.3 innings, he’s walked five of them.
He's extremely quick and good.
hey Manny's got it figured out
walk the leadoff hitter so you have an easy force on second, so no one will be beating out infield hits! they’ll all be fielders’ choice, and you can maintain a low hit count
Brilliant!
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 28, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
yay!
his true talent level must be above 000/000/000!
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
he's young
so the age adjustment will help a bit. Maybe get him up to .062/.062/.078 or so.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
If there's one thing these 19 at bats have taught me
It’s that he’s streaky.
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Twins guys talking about Branyan's efforts to change his approach
It’s the meme of the fortnight, but really, 3T0 is the same hitter as ever.
But hey, if all this talk means that people realize the old 3T0 was pretty valuable, I’ll be happy.
Also, cheese.
But if he's "changed his approach"
Then the old 3TO no longer exists, even if the results are the same.
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did they talk about him
playing a video game 10 minutes every morning to work on his focus?
Sign me up for the majors!
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 28, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
don't worry
I think you can still play video games without being in the majors.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm just saying
I’m a very focused guy
very very
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 28, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
but are you extremely quick and good?
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
The Mike Jones Era is coming to an end
Mike Jones’ ERA, however, just continues to grow.
He gave up two runs in 1.7 innings tonight on three hits…with a nifty 0/5 K/BB.
He's extremely quick and good.
he got an extra 2/3 of a 1/10 of a batter out?
just not used to seeing 1.7
used to seeing it box score style 1.2, which is of course even more absurd.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 28, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
There's a significant margin of error on AA innings
I’m not comfortable with reporting them with any precision past a tenth of an inning.
He's extremely quick and good.
I love the "no style points" line
When really, a very large portion of the game is based on style points, only they’re called scouting reports.
He's extremely quick and good.
Lucky...
It appears to be the east side of Oakland, all the way up to Capital. There was a guy at the bar talking baseball, I was almost tempted to ask him i he was battlekow.
would you have
put special emphasis on the K or otherwise make clear it wasn’t just and ordinary “cow”?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 28, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
really?
and what’s the story behind that?
I always assumed it was a video game reference or something.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
It is, indirectly
It would actually be a pretty cool Diablo reference, but I was already battlekow before Diablo.
My friend had a computer before I did, and we played Quake online. He wasn’t the quickest guy, so he asked me to think of a cool internet nickname for him. I suggested “battlecow”, because we were in Wisconsin and, well, battling (Keep in mind that we were also approximately 12). Later, when I got a computer, I demanded the nickname back, but he refused, citing the fact that he’d already signed up with the local ISP under the name as a reason, and thus I was forced to switch the C to a K and become battlekow.
Tomorrow, tune in for Chapter 2: Education of a Kow.
He's extremely quick and good.
the k is way cooler anyway.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
yea
i was thinking diablo II with the hidden wurt’s leg portal thing
okay…I’m a dork.
didn’t feel like going with Badger or swine references?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 28, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Speaking of Diablo
See that Blizzard mentioned Diablo 3?
I can already see all the college drop outs because of it.
only if it's
world of Diablo III where people can do such inane tasks as polish shoes
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 28, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I played the WoW beta constantly
It contributed not-insignificantly to me leaving school. When I started going out with a girl I really liked, I had to make a conscious choice between her and WoW; I chose her, but years later, I kinda wish I chose the immersive online alternate-reality experience.
He's extremely quick and good.
Ragnaros Mocks you
Thats’ right.. I’m a total dork.
I was in both betas (release and xpac) and played the crap out of that game. Trust me, you choose correct. ePenis or nookie?
I got booted from the beta for a couple days for being a female Night Elf and taking all of "my" clothes off, running around, and dancing
He's extremely quick and good.
And why does that not surprise me at all?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
you can do that?
too bad I never took up the game:P
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 28, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I almost wish you would've
It’d have been fun to see the response
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
well...
he would have had to bring a video camera with him
unless you were the guy at the bar talking baseball:P
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 28, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
kirbir has many secrets.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
You didn't see that hot girl in the corner
making out with that hot Janko Tipsarevic look a like?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
um
i liked you before, but now we’ve established you know who janko tipsarevic is, I might just spring for that plane ticket…
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
He's hot and Serbian
like someone else we all know. Naturally I have to like him
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Yeah
Ana Ivanovic is pretty hot, too.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice pictures
But is she any good with balls?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
#1 in the world...
though I suspect that’s not what you meant.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like I seriously need to amp up my tennis action then
I’m sure it won’t take me long to take her down though
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
I think she's got about 10 inches on you.
And of course, that’s not what you mean, or what I mean.
I’m so confused.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Poor Jeff
I’m sorry I blew your mind
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
[edited to maintain R rating]
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
what would you care anyway?
unless you have a pair;)
As I don’t think she’s going after Ryan J.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 28, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe it wasn't Ryan J I was worried about
I’m cute, but definitely not that hot
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
That’s why I didn’t. Having to explain who battlekow is..and explain how I know who that person is via interweb tubes would have been horrible.
You could’ve coughed it and seen if he turned his head
by ol Pete on Jun 28, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
JJs Glove..
Is this the first game that JJ has switched from his white glove to that brown/red glove?
-He’s so dreamy
He's only at 112 pitches
Ned thinks he can squeeze another inning or two out of him.
He's extremely quick and good.
well
Ned’s pitchers have to throw just as many as the opposition.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 28, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Cards are winning 4-0 in KC, 7th inning
They might actually beat the Royals this time!
He's extremely quick and good.
Josh Romanski
He’s our 4th-round pick this year, a LHP. Only thing is, he’s now playing in his second game as a DH, and hasn’t pitched yet. The reason is that Helena has only their backup catcher available on the bench do to injuries and roster construction.
He's extremely quick and good.
weird.
maybe you could offer to fill in. that would be one way to get some interviews.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 28, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Heh
The Northwoods League teams had to do that early in their season while a bunch of their position players were still on college teams.
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Bravo to the fans at the Humpty Dump
It’s sounded on the radio tonight like most of the crowd is Brewers fans, especially as the game’s gone on
I'm watching on gameday & doing some work...
...for those out in TV land, is it a pretty solid Milwaukee contingent tonight?
Robbed!
Nice play by Gomez.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
He was a great prospect until he ruined his knee(s?)
The doc said it was the worst knee injury he’d ever seen, if I recall correctly.
He's extremely quick and good.
Why does Ned look agitated
while he’s telling the players “good job”?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
No doubt just giving everyone something to point out about him
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