Post-First Round Draft Thread
by battlekow on Jun 5, 2008 3:55 PM CDT
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Print- Brett Lawrie, C (R), Brookswood SS (BC)
- Jake Odorizzi, RHP, Highland HS (IL)
- Evan Frederickson, LHP, San Francisco
- Seth Lintz, RHP, Marshall County HS (TN)
- Cutter Dykstra, OF (R), Westlake HS (CA)
- Cody Adams, RHP, Southern Illinois
- Logan Schafer, OF (L), Cal Poly SLO
- Josh Romanski, LHP, San Diego
- Maverick Lasker, RHP, Sandra Day O'Connor HS (AZ)
- Jose Duran - SS (R), Texas A&M
- Twins - Shooter Hunt, RHP, Tulane
- Brewers - Jake Odorizzi, RHP, HS (IL)
- Mets - Brad Holt, RHP, UNC-Wilmington
- Phillies - Zach Collier, OF, HS (CA)
- Brewers - Evan Frederickson, LHP, San Francisco
- Royals - Mike Montgomery, LHP, HS (CA)
- Giants - Conor Gillaspie, 3B, Wichita State
- Astros - Jordan Lyles, RHP, HS (SC)
- Cardinals - Lance Lynn, RHP, Ole Miss
- Braves - Brett DeVall, LHP, HS (FL)
- Cubs - Ryan Flaherty, SS, Vanderbilt
- Padres - Jaff Decker, OF, HS (AZ)
- Diamondbacks - Wade Miley, LHP, SE Louisiana
- Yankees - Jeremy Bleich, LHP, Stanford
- Red Sox - Bryan Price, RHP, Rice
- Padres - Logan Forsythe, 3B, Arkansas
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I am excited about this
Love the interest from everynoe… I agree, the off day and the recent win streak has everyone excited I think… plus yesterday’s Cubs loss and the number of picks we have
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Would that erase three of there wins to loses
Or guarantee the next three games they play are forfeits?
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hmmm
All three picks, which ones…, the first three, I would say no… I don’t know if this is the Brewers year… and keeping the talent in the organization is key… last year, it would have been worth it… but lets say they finish out 4 games this year… I don’t know
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Money is on?
shooter hunt, casey kelley, zach collier, tim melville, conor gillaspie or jake odorizzi
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Alright
no kelly, My espn draft log is not updating yet…. but it looks like the brewers have some good options
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much better!
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Collier had a bad workout for the Brewers
I don’t think they’ll take him.
He's extremely quick and good.
"Shooter Hunt"
One of the better names in the draft.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on Jun 5, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I also like
“Beemer Weems”
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 5, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, Beemer Weems
He gives Zealous Wheeler a run for his money.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on Jun 5, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
on the other side of the spectrum
there’s a pitcher at Coker (not a draft prospect) named Brad Boob.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 5, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
well timed...
I’ve got to go to work in about a half an hour…looks like we’ll get #35 in by then.
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Darn, we missed Shooter Hunt
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
sometimes I don't even tie my shoes.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 5, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
nah. I like falling over.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 5, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I am goign with
jake odorizzi
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alright!
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Melville now?
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
man they come quick
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the new guy moves faster than Selig.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 5, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Johnny Estrada
moves faster than Selig
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on Jun 5, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
peter gammons talking over pick...
who did we take?
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
Frederickson
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Evan Frederickson
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
He's eight feet tall
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on Jun 5, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
he is 6'6
so maybe on a MLB roster, he’ll be listed at 8’0.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 5, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
i love how they're talking about every other pick
but ours
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
Frederickson
Looks like he has horrible control from the vidoe linkedo n mlb draft tracker
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compard to Aaron Poreda from last year, who has a big fastball and nothing else
He's extremely quick and good.
http://usfdons.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/fredrickson_evan00.html
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He said he wasn't going to sign if he wasn't taken in the top 15
or given top 15 money, so I’m guessing no one is going to draft him now.
He's extremely quick and good.
ah
so the Yankees or Red Sox will grab him in the 4th round.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 5, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I like this pace better than the first round.
less time for steve phillips to read the cue cards.
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Don't like the word Quixotic and terrible command
Quixotic lefthander Evan Frederickson, who has one of the best arms in college baseball but was plagued by terrible command and control the last two years at Virginia Tech before transferring to USF, struck out 13 over seven shutout innings against the Golden Bears.
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just playing devil's advocate
people said the same about Randy Johnson…
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 5, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Odorizzi
Don’t like Frederickson.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
Agreed...
Frederickson looks like a bit of a reach. I guess we can afford to gamble a bit more when we’re hoarding draft picks.
Wouldn't it be considered stupid and not a gamble if this guy is going to still be around at 53
A gamble would be pickign a guy who probably will be picked soon and has a high ceiling, but not a for sure thing… I know the Brewers did more research than me… but pretty sure the #116th ranked player could be taken with the 53, 54, or 62nd pick if they wanted
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
not that easy.
i think that the rankings, especially ones that go that deep, tend to rank based on an overall projection—upside and downside put together. some teams (not just the brewers) really like upside, so a guy with the best pure stuff in the draft certainly isn’t going to make it to 116 … you draft him on the chance he becomes randy johnson, fully realizing he probably won’t. I don’t know how soon that means you have to take him, but like you say, JZ probably has a better feel for that than we do.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 5, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
good point
in this ranking he is 68 or so… after the first few picks… it is anyone’s guess really what is going to happen, and there really aren’t “consensus” picks where everyone will agree on
http://www.saberscouting.com/2008/06/02/saberscoutingtop100/
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Frederickson ranked 116?
By baseball america? What is going on here? Not that I know… but seems like could have waited
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http://66.35.240.8/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/04/SPPG112G7C.DTL
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The most interesting of those names could be Fredrickson, a 6-6 lefty who Baseball America ranks as the No. 116 prospect. He throws 94-96 mph and, at times, has a dominating curveball.“He could go surprisingly high, because there is no one with better pure, raw stuff in the draft,” Rawnsley said. “Sometimes he throws 96 with a hammer, and sometimes he bounces balls to the backstop.”
He's extremely quick and good.
I know its just a blog
But the Mets fans were considering him maybe at 100… but still a risk there
Who I think we could/should take at 100:
Evan Frederickson, huge high school lefty with great stuff but iffy command.
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question for southern wisconsin residents
wasn’t jim crandall a sports guy for channel 6 (when it was CBS) or 4 back in the day?
I'm going to stop tracking all the picks now, and just do the Brewers
That cool with everyone?
He's extremely quick and good.
Slacker
I’m sure the real media guys over at JS Online are following every pick.
by Getting Yosted on Jun 5, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, those JS guys have a ton of credability
Credability that I lack, as a blogger. Whatever that is.
He's extremely quick and good.
would it be better
if I appointed you BlogCaptain?
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 5, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, it's official then.
Battlekow, Rear BlogAdmiral
Watch out, Tommy!
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 5, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Kow-modore
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
it looks like it
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more on frederickson
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
sorry
will try my best going forward
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
well, it's a long, hard road
from Exemplary BlogMember to Rear BlogAdmiral.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 5, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
matriculation is an option
but attending classes? not cool.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 5, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Peter
Baseball “reexamined its conscience” regarding the lack of African-American participation.
He's extremely quick and good.
Here's a little piece on what Tom H. had to say about Frederickson
Frederickson is 6-6 and 238 pounds and really through the ball hard in a recent workout with the Brewers
Who can find the English error? How is this guy a writer?
I read it as "really thought the ball hard"
90% of this game is half mental, after all.
He's extremely quick and good.
Brett Lawrie is the Canadian Ichiro
As he appears to be quite popular in Canada. This story is linked from the home page of the CBC, right below a story titled ‘Deal still possible for Hockey Night theme song.’
Luckily we have Tavarez now.
Maybe we can start incorporating regular fights for our new Canadian fans.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on Jun 5, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, bk should watch out
kirbir will show up any minute and beat him up if he keeps talking like that.
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 5, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
The six-foot-one, 180-pound Lawrie hopes to follow in the footsteps of Dodgers all-star catcher Russell Martin, a converted third baseman from East York, Ont.“I like to model my game around him,” said Lawrie, whom some scouts believe is the most advanced hitter at age 18 in Canadian history.
“He didn’t start catching until he was coming right out of junior college and I’ve challenged myself. I can play a number of positions, third base real well, I can play second, the outfield and I didn’t want to limit myself to one position.”
He's extremely quick and good.
So...
...whats the best pick the Brewers made so far? Did we get a bargain on anybody?
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
Bretty Lawrie was a great pick
Odorizzi is also a good, as far as prep pitchers ever are.
Frederickson…we’ll see. He throws very hard for a lefty but has ridiculously bad control.
He's extremely quick and good.
I'm hoping
Evan = Randy Johnson
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by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 5, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Thankfully he doesn't have to throw it through a tiny ring at an Air Force lab to measure how hard he throws
He's extremely quick and good.
How is he...
...at bare-handing balls hit back to the mound?
Plus, if he ever wants to be like Johnson he’ll have to get
started on that mullet right now.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
Steve Phillips
said that Bretty was a “gamer”. That’s about all you need to know.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
We'll do our best
to press on without the ringleader here.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
Does the guy doing the announcing remind anyone else of Matt Damon crossed with Al Franken?
He's extremely quick and good.
good timing tuned in and brewers are up to pick
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
another high school pitcher
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
cutter dykstra...
son of lenny
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
icky
looking swing. gah! Looks like he is diving into a friggin pool.
and the brewers are back on the clock
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
thomas cody adams
rh pitcher out of southern illinois
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
Don't know much about him
but the scouting video makes me like him. Looks pretty smooth and had some readings in the mid 90s.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
We're now into the realm of players I haven't heard of
I really hope Scott Gorgen is around in the third round, though.
He's extremely quick and good.
more on lintz from a kentucky article where he committed
Lintz is a right-hander from Marshall County High School, who stands at 6-foot-1, 165 pounds. As a junior in 2007, Lintz earned a school-record 12-1 record on the mound, striking out 116 in 85 innings. Lintz totaled a 1.33 ERA while earning first-team All-State honors and leading his club to a Region Championship finish. An excellent student, Lintz is a four-year member of the honor roll, and currently stands second in his graduating class.
“Seth has a great arm and a very good feel for his curveball,” Cohen said. “He is an outstanding student and has a chance to have three above-average pitches.”
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
it sounded good though :)
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
Second in his graduating class?
guy must not be a winner.
Logan Schafer, OF from Cal Poly SLO
I wish they would have taken Scott Gorgen or Eric Thames.
He's extremely quick and good.
Lefty
throwing and hitting. Interesting pick. What kind of profile is he? Slappy guy or some power?
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Schafer was drafted by the Red Sox in 2005
Baseball Cube page. The Red Sox have the largest scouting department, so perhaps the new market inefficiency is drafted their unsigned past picks.
He's extremely quick and good.
Evan Frederickson was drafted previously too
2005 in the 27th round by the Twins
He's extremely quick and good.
Jack Zdrnklikndezik
finding market tricky ways to evaluate players, all the time.
From what I’ve found, I seem to like the Schafer pick.
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logan schaffer (sp?)
center fielder out of cal polly…possibly moves through system quickly (commentary guy on mlb)
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
just checked again
Jeff’s other non-D1 choice (Adelphi’s Robert Lanigan) even went 8 picks before Nieuwenhuis. Let’s hope his head doesn’t get too big once he finds out both were picked in the third round already. :)
1. That's oddly coincidental.. wonder what was going on
2. In the article that the picture was in, his father noted that he didn’t strike out during his senior year. Not even once.
3. That pic eerily looks like Craig Counsell. Don’t mean to jinx ya, Cutter.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
He'd look more like his dad if he had a half-pound of chew in his cheek.
If Dad’s nickname was nails… what’s Cutter’s nickname? Or do you not need a nickname when you’re real name is Cutter?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 5, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
checked out the scouting video
and was unimpressed with his play on the infield, then i saw the scouting report and this understatement.
Arm Strength: Dykstra’s arm is a tick below average and he has a little bit of an awkward throwing motion.
a “bit” awkward is generous. nothing to like from his scouting videos, nothing at all in my opinion. Then i see you write that he didn’t strike out? that’s my kind of prospect. I’ll be surprised if he makes it to AA. he’ll be the david eckstein of A ball.
good luck cutter, welcome aboard!
Bring Back The Old Logo!
Just thought that was interesting
Jhonny Estrada doesn’t strike out either.
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Are we still talking about baseball?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 5, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he sort of looks like a young Mark Hamill
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 5, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
You know who else looks like someone else?
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Draft coverers say he played outfield as well
so far the draft has gone as I would’ve liked it to. Take a stud position player, high potential guy first and then load up on the pitchers.
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Article on Romanski. He was drafted by the Padres in the 15th round in 2005.
He's extremely quick and good.
Romanski threw a no-hitter a couple months ago
Against Harvard. Steffan Wilson is pissed.
He's extremely quick and good.
He didn't walk anyone either
He hit a guy, but he also got hit himself. Surely that cancels out? Give him the perfect game!
He's extremely quick and good.
That was hilarious
“He knows how to play the game.”
As opposed to good people, who don’t actually know how to play and are taught how by utility players. For example, Counsell had to teach Braun the rules when he came up last year.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
It's funny, but Anthony Hewitt really doesn't know how to play the game
He's extremely quick and good.
I just realized, right before they said it, that Zach Putnam was still on the board
That’s who I want.
He's extremely quick and good.
With a name like that
Can the team afford not to give him the David Clyde treatment?
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
Maverick Lasker!
New. Favorite. Name.
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
Maverick Lasker!
Too bad we didn’t grab Shooter Hunt too:
Maverick, Shooter, and Cutter would have been an intimidating arsenal.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
All right guys, that's it for today
Thanks to everyone for hanging around and providing lively discussion. This was way more popular than I though it would be.
He's extremely quick and good.
lasker scouting report
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/events/draft_report/y2008/index.jsp?mc=lasker
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
At some point
I’m convinced the Brewers just started drafting the guys with the coolest names.
Coffee is for closers
tis what i do
when the talent runs out in baseball mogul.
We thought he was leaving
but can’t resist returning upon the announcement of the sixth round pick
Whenever prince is at first, he should charge the mound and yell "MEAT!"
Now that we have Cutter and Maverick
We just need to draft Iceman and we’ll be set.
Coffee is for closers
We already have The Iceman
His name is Brian Shouse.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on Jun 5, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Did I read
that there was a player taken with the name of Gose? He could’ve been Goose.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Kevin Goldstein on Evan Frederickson
This typo made me laugh:
Kevin Goldstein (2:21:44 PM PT): 35. Brewers, Evan Fredrickson, LHP, USFSounds intimidating! I can hear Black Sabbath in the background already.Like this guy. VERY tell LHP who throws down hell and has some projection.
He's extremely quick and good.
Passion
Comment totals on MLB draft threads…
Brewcrewball: 545
Bleedcubbieblue: 290
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Makes sense
When you rely less on developing your own players, the draft probably isn’t as interesting.
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
Yes
their “draft” is watching Nationals, Marlins, and Rockies games to see who they will sign in a year or two
Video game numbers
Odorizzi, who was scheduled to pitch Friday in the Illinois state playoffs, was 11-0 with a 0.00 ERA in his first 69 innings this season. He surrendered 18 hits in that span and five walks with 116 strikeouts.“We understand those are high school numbers, but nevertheless pretty spectacular,” Zduriencik said.
He's extremely quick and good.
a WHIP of 0.33?
Say, that’s not so bad.
After each strikeout, he would yell to the batter walking back to the dugout “I drink your milkshake!” Then he actually would go over to the opposing dugout and drink the poor guy’s milkshake, right in front of everyone. It’s very demoralizing when you’re the hitter.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
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