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Game Thread #61: Brewers (32-28) at Rockies (22-38)

Finally, oh finally, can I phrase something like this in a way that reflects a GOOD surprise: Who would've thought that the Brewers would be 10 games better than the Rockies at this point in the season?  Not a good start for the Coloradans.

The matchup is Ben Sheets and Ubaldo Jimenez, which is the sort of thing that turns 10 games into 11 games.  In a special ceremony tonight, first round pick Brett Lawrie will be Jason Kendall's designated hitter.  The future is now!

Game time is a Rocky Mountain-tastic 8:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.

Go restocked Brewers!

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"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 6, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeffress so far tonight: 3 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 6:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I am glad I predicted that he wouldn't have trouble with A+

Sure his ERA is still above 6 but 28/8 K/BB ratio without todays stats and really the control is there for just coming off the restricted list. 8 walks in 19 1/3 innings is not too shabby. I think he will be in Huntsville by the end of the season. I am very very high on him if he can stay clean.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

4/1 K/BB in 4 IP today

He really only had one bad inning, a couple starts ago. He’s been dominant. It would be great if he made it up to AA before the end of the year.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeffress on fire

6.0 3 0 0 1 8 now. I’ll take 8Ks and 1 walk in 6 innings anytime.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too bad they don't say how many pitches he has thrown in the in game box

I’d love to know if he has another inning or two left before his limit.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow I didn't even see that

That many strikeouts and that many grounders usually don’t happen together. He must be improving his slider to be getting that many grounders because his fastball is 99 MPH of high heat.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of high groundball ratios

One of my favorite unheralded guys, Evan Anundsen, is also pitching tonight. He was a fourth-round pick two years ago out of Columbine HS (yes, that Columbine), and he has interesting strikeout potential to go with his 2.47 (coming into today; 6/2 today) GO/AO ratio.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't really know

but I’m pretty sure the correlation is stronger than that of K rate.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 6, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually, yes I do know

not for any particular level-to-level, but for all minor leaguers, most of whom, you’d assume, change levels at some point:

At the 20 IP threshhold, there are more than 1,600 minor league pitchers who qualified in both 2006 and 2007. The correlation in GB/FB rates for that population is 0.61—quite a bit better than the corresponding number for college to the minors (0.42). Probably a little of that improvement is due to the fact that the average inning total is higher in the minor league pool, but more is due to the consistency between the environments. At the 35 IP threshhold, there is less of a difference between our minor-to-minor and college-to-minor comparisons: The correlation for 2006/2007 minor league pitchers’ groundball rates is 0.66 (vs. 0.56 for college-to-minors).

link

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 6, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

here's something

year to year in the majors, it’s .72. link. I’m certain someone has done the work to find the correlation of AAA/MLB K rate, but ~0.6 is probably a good guess until i find it or figure it myself.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 6, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

MLE's have a multiplier

I don’t know what it is offhand - but the multiplier represents the average change - say, K rate decreases by 10% from AAA to MLB.

Correlation refers to how reliable that multiplier is, which is a different issue entirely.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 6, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some things I am looking forward too

I think Sheets might do ok at Coors with his new found velocity on his fastball. PITCHf/x thinks that straight, fast, fastballs should do well there. Also look for him to mix in more change ups which should be more effective than his curve at Coors.

I am drooling at the thought of how far Russell can hit a ball at Coors. Maybe a 500 foot shot this weekend.

I really think a 4 of 6 road trip is very doable here. Sheets is pitching twice and we seem to have some ok pitching match ups this road trip.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply actions  

"newfound velocity"

Can you elaborate?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

This year his speed is up for whatever reason

I know it doesn’t look like it on his player card because it is lumping his change ups and sinkers in with his fastballs but when you remove that his fastball is up nearly a MPH on average. Jim has suggested it is mostly due to him having his fastball from inning 1 not waiting until inning 3 or 4 like last year. I am not sure about that but his average fastball is close to 95 right now. In a contract year no less :)

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome

I didn’t realize that. Thanks dixie.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

interesting collection of stats at Denver Post

Here. It includes some gambling info as well, which I don’t understand.

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions  

So the 120 home and -140 away

That means you if you bet 100 on the Rockies tonight you win 120 but you have to bet 140 on the brewers to win 100 back. The reason those are different is the house’s edge. Opening line is what the line opened at so if that is different from the current line you can see who the money is coming in on. I actually have never placed a bet but know several people who bet a good deal so I know a lot of this stuff.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks. Gambling on baseball seems like something that would be hard as hell.

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually from what I understand it is far easier than football

Apparently the lines on NFL games are just spot on because how much money is coming in on those games. There are so many baseball games that the money is very spread out so the lines can be softer. If you really understand variables like home field and who is available in the the pen you can do pretty well. I obviously wouldn’t recommend it but I do know one person who basically makes a living betting only on baseball games.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tell Pete Rose I said Hi

And ask him for the $50 he owes me.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 6, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah you wonder how he lost money when he was betting

He certainly should know a lot about the game managing and all. His bookies must have given him some terrible lines for the Reds know he was going to bet for them to win.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's where he made his money

And promptly lost it on every sport that wasn’t baseball.

by Getting Yosted on Jun 6, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

he certainly

wasn’t spending it on good haircuts.

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kapler starting over Cameron

Smart move..can Kapler keep it going?

by brew82 on Jun 6, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Cam has really been slumping

But you would kind of like his defense in this huge park. That said, Kapler is supposed to be pretty good in center too.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Michael Brantley led off Huntsville's game with a homer

box score

He has three homers in his last nine games after having two in his entire professional career up through two weeks ago. If he can add even Escobar-level power to his game, he becomes much more interesting as a prospect (check out his age).

Perhaps he’s stealing some power from his (much larger) twin, Kyle Blanks:

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Huntsville's cleaning up again

Seven runs in four innings so far.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW if anyone is watching the game on MLB's gameday

The PITCHf/x camera there is very slow. Generally a couple of MPHs slower depending on the type of pitch it was.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Wbbks!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Man, I can't even see the ball

Turns out starting Kapler was a good idea.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Funny

the Colorado announcers spent a lot of Rickie’s at bat killing him for his OBP and then he walked.

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Did they talk about his batting average?

It’s stupid to nail him for having a .320 OBP without noting that he has excellent patience but an awful batting average.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

but they said a leadoff hitter should have a higher OBP

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

The d-backs guys got a good chuckle over McClung too. Or maybe I should call them the e-backs

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's weird to be watching MLB after having my head in the draft for two days

It’s like, “oh yeah, this is why we get excited about the draft in the first place.”

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions  

i'm pretty sure we get excited about the draft for its own sake.

after all, i just went through a spreadsheet, flagging non-D1 guys who were drafted.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 6, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, you're definitely right

But you’re not supposed to tell people that, or we’ll get looked at funny.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dive, James Jerry

That was not a tremendous display of range.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 8:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Low 90s

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

?

but trenni has him a couple of levels below braun

by sheeter on Jun 6, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

doh

was suppsed to be a reply to bk

by sheeter on Jun 6, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tie game

blah.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

haha

benny flyin down the line

by sheeter on Jun 6, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Colorado announcers

are drooling over how hard Rickie ran down the line. They even dropped the “kids, if you are watching” line.

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

that was an ugly inning

Jimenez with a high ERA and one win. I wonder if he is pitching a lot better tonight or others were able to hit this stuff.

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Rockies

are getting some nice swings on Sheets so far

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice play JJ!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

This game is flying

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Whew

Almost thought Sheets should pitch around Torrealba with the weak hitting pitcher next, but glad he didn’t.

by oconnobe on Jun 6, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

MUSCLES

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions  

HARDY!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Brevard County went into the 10th tied 0-0, then gave up a run in the top

The bottom:

  • Pitcher Change: Robert Delaney replaces Blair Erickson.
  • Brent Brewer grounds out, shortstop Yancarlos Ortiz to first baseman Whitney Robbins.
  • Darren Ford singles on a ground ball to third baseman Daniel Valencia.
  • With Lorenzo Cain batting, Darren Ford steals (31) 2nd base.
  • Lorenzo Cain strikes out swinging.
  • Robert Delaney intentionally walks Taylor Green.
  • Offensive Substitution: Pinch runner Jimmy Mojica replaces Taylor Green.
  • Charlie Fermaint singles on a line drive to right fielder Edward Ovalle. Darren Ford scores. Jimmy Mojica to 3rd.
  • With Chuck Caufield batting, Charlie Fermaint advances to 2nd on defensive indifference.
  • Chuck Caufield strikes out swinging.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 6, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Jenks

up against the Braves with 2 outs in the 9th and down 1 run

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Webb

beat the rats to move to 11-2.

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

plus a couple walks

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

so

one more inning for sheets?

by Oakland Brewer Fan on Jun 6, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably, but I would vote no. Good time to turn it over to the BP.

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

BP

especially since his spot is coming up

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kendall

nice placement on that shot!

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 9:47 PM CDT reply actions  

A triple from Jason.

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why do they play anyone in left field agains Kendall?

There should be a player camped on the right field line, someone in right center and another playing dead center.

by Getting Yosted on Jun 6, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems ilke he had a gapper or two to right when the season started in Chicago.

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

he is saving

his hits for tomorrow since they already have the lead tonight

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

fricken fsn

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Jun 6, 2008 9:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Phils-Braves

awesome game. Victorino threw out the potentially tying run to end the game in the bottom of the 10th.

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 10:12 PM CDT reply actions  

The Braves

have turned losing 1 run games into an art form. Liquor sales have tripled down here in the last month and a half as fans are drinking themselves to sleep nearly every night!!

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Jun 6, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

they really have

their second basemen dropped a popup in the 9th to blow a lead. Diamondback-esque.

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crap

Cameron probably would have had that won. The pen blew another potential Sheets win

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 10:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Is Yost awake

in the dugout yet?

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Jun 6, 2008 10:22 PM CDT reply actions  

grr...oh, well

just like my day…started out well, ended like crap

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 6, 2008 10:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow this is really going to be painful

Not getting that last run really huge.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 10:22 PM CDT reply actions  

wow

that sucked…and is still sucking

by Oakland Brewer Fan on Jun 6, 2008 10:23 PM CDT reply actions  

puke face

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Jun 6, 2008 10:25 PM CDT reply actions  

so does having a brain

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Jun 6, 2008 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bullcrap

Give me a good reason for pulling him?

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Jun 6, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

a cycle

Rockies hit for the cycle with four consecutive hitters.

by statsllc on Jun 6, 2008 10:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I know that they weren't going to stay as hot as they have been

But to lose the winning streak like this sucks.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 10:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I hear ya

but let’s put on the rally caps for the 9th

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah your right.

In this park a bloop and a blast takes on a whole new meaning. So pinch hit for Kendall to start the inning? I know he had that triple but he has not been swinging well. In either case who bats for the pitcher? Counsell?

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least the Cards lost

Cubs are losing too. Maybe we won’t lose any games.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 10:29 PM CDT reply actions  

yes

except in the wild card.

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well the Marlins lost as well

So did the Braves and the leading Cards. So not too bad. But an opportunity lost if they can’t come back.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

9th

Kendall, PH (Hall?), Rickie, Kapler. Let’s get some runs!

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 10:30 PM CDT reply actions  

please, please ned

pinch hit Rivera for Kendall in the 9th
and…hmm….counsell for shouse?

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 6, 2008 10:31 PM CDT reply actions  

I’d be really surprised if Kendall gets pulled.

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

he ought to though

if they don’t score runs, they won’t need him anyway. and if they do need him, it probably means rivera did well:P

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 6, 2008 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

shouse...

it’s willy taveras!

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by Michael M on Jun 6, 2008 10:31 PM CDT reply actions  

maybe

Seth should hit for Shouse in the 9th. If only he were facing the Big Unit.

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huntsville

also gave up a 5 run inning to fall behind but just got 2 back in the bottom of 8 and are now back up 10-9. How about a game of follow the minors?? ;-)

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Jun 6, 2008 10:32 PM CDT reply actions  

more on the cycle

It only took the Rockies ten pitches to pull off the cycle.

by statsllc on Jun 6, 2008 10:34 PM CDT reply actions  

and

none of them thrown by Turnbow or Gagne. What are the odds?

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa - Turnbow and Gagne?

I’m pretty sure four-pitch walks aren’t a part of the cycle.

C. Magruder scored, R. Weeks to second on balk

by alkaseitzer on Jun 7, 2008 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Way to catch in and then slide

I did that in little league. Then I turned 12 and stopped it.

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 10:37 PM CDT reply actions  

hey...

the day branyan got called up (or day after:P), it worked

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 6, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

dreamer

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Jun 6, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

friggin Hawpe

batting like crap for a month, but hey the Brewers are here so bust out of it.

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

that was bullshit

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on Jun 6, 2008 10:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Rockies annoucers

“best win of the year”. Glad we could help.

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 10:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I hate that

Scuffling team playing like badly…

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sad

Well Greg Reynolds who has a 9/18 K/BB ratio is pitching tomorrow. Hopefully we can get to him and put it away early.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 10:43 PM CDT reply actions  

and Dave Bush. I hope he junks them to death. Maybe his style will work better, but…

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too early

to call up Jake Odorizzi?

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Jun 6, 2008 10:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Well its never too early to drop Mota

"You have no honor!" - McClung to Fukudome

by zsxander567 on Jun 7, 2008 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can't wait

to see how the cubs pull out a bs win tonight.

by molitorfan on Jun 6, 2008 10:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Kapler

how could you NOT catch that helton double? it was directly overhead

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 6, 2008 10:45 PM CDT reply actions  

I wondered about not playing Cameron in a really big park, but he Kapler had a big hit to start everything out.

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

The other thing with Cam is he has played in this park a lot

But things like that are really splitting hairs. If Mota had been even half way decent and just given up two runs we wouldn’t even be thinking about it.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know

I kind of wonder about the heavy reliance on Mota as well. But he has looked really good most of the time. Its all 20/20 looking back.

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

2-0 Dodgers

fielder’s choice. 2nd and 3rd one out still.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 10:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Hu struck out

Pitcher is next

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

He’s hanging tough.

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 7, 2008 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sarfate got the win today

He is pitching pretty well for the O’s.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 10:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Lincecum won again today

And the Giants almost traded him before the season started. Can we trade the farm for him? I mean literally the entire farm system for him.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 6, 2008 10:59 PM CDT reply actions  

and for a change his offense put up a lot of runs

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

And now the umps are hosing the Dodgers

Hu got a bad strike call an inning earlier and now Kent rung up on one that was low and over the batter box line.

by ol Pete on Jun 6, 2008 11:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Cubs lose

3-0 so we don’t lose any ground on the cubs or cards.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 7, 2008 12:15 AM CDT reply actions  

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 7, 2008 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

On the positive side

The cost of his jersey probably just went down a few bucks.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

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