Game Thread #63: Brewers (32-30) at Rockies (24-38)
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 1:00 PM CDT
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PrintToday's matchup is one close to my heart. Jeffs Suppan and Francis will go head to head at Coors Field, to see which Jeff can keep the ball in the park. Francis was dominant his last time out, but gave up 6 runs in 6 innings his last start at Coors.
Suppan...well, he's been known to allow a deep fly now and then.
Game time is 2:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
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So 100 games left on the schedule
Anyone want to guess the number of wins they have in the last 100? I am going to go with 54.
Dillon?
What has he done to earn a start? I want Rickie in there after sitting yesterday.
A walk and a hit notwithstanding
Dillon/Kapler at the top of the order makes me cry
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions
Yostian logic
By getting thrown out at 3rd, Kapler allows Braun to advance to 2nd. Braun wouldn’t be in scoring position for Fielder if Kapler hadn’t made that out at 3rd.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Kapler
That was sad.
But hey, who was then one-hopping it to third base from centerfield, but Scotty Po!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Bad omen
I just finished a game in MLB2k8 and Suppan got shelled. Like always.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:15 PM CDT reply actions
Yep
I didn’t have someone warming up until the 3rd inning.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't you think
that, sooner or later, Ned is going to win Manager of the Year? That day will coincide with my first day of therapy.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I think it will probably come after an LCS appearance
So I doubt you’ll be too upset.
He's extremely quick and good.
He got the first one for a .500 record
Maybe a wild card appearance would be enough for the next one
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't he win that after they went 81-81?
I don’t pay very close attention to those awards
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
huh
My world is a little better today. Don’t know why I thought he’d won, but it makes me smile to know he didn’t.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
The saddest part
This followed a 2 hit, complete game shutout for Vargas
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
But not a no-hitter
with MLB 07, I had Ben Sheets take a no-hitter into the eighth and Reggie Abercrombie (Marlins) bunts one down the third base line, and Braun misses it and its a hit.
I now hate Reggie Abercrombie.
His trade value has never been higher.
You could probably get Matt Cain for him.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
So on that 1-2 pitch that Billy took
I wonder if he thought it was out of the zone or if he was just fooled?
Nice AB from Billy
On that 1-2, he always takes that pitch. Frequently gets called out on it
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply actions
Wow
Nice AB by Billy.
A little odd that even though Prince was running on the pitch, he still only made it to second.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Well you don't want to be making outs at 3rd now do you?
by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
What are the odds
of Podsednik throwing someone out at third? Psssh.
Hmmm…
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Man more Griffey trying for 600 promos going on at MLB
The death march continues. It seems like they have been hyping that for about two months now.
yes
it helps when he actually plays. In that Phils series he would get 1 pinch hit AB a day and I think they walked him 2 days in a row.
Awesome
Podsednik in the game because of his career record against Suppan (4 hits in 11 ab). I love it when opposing managers do stupid things.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:23 PM CDT reply actions
He will start next time we play them too
because he has thrown out Kapler 100% of the time he has tried to take third on him.
Crabbe Man
would have gotten that one in his pincers.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
So these Rockies announcers have been driving me crazy this series
I am going with Bob and Jim even though they are behind a pitch. They always are using very selective stats and stuff that obviously doesn’t matter to make a point. Adkins is hitting .425 on day games after a new moon this year.
agree
they are morons and homers. After the Crew got the first two guys on they were saying it wasn’t bad because Braun could strike out and Prince could hit into a double play.
So I have been playing around with my PITCHf/x correction factors and appling them to the strikezone
They say that the highest called strike zone is at Coors by about an inch and a half (which is actually quite large). I have a theory that because the ball doesn’t drop like it does in most parks pitchers leave a lot of pitches up throughout the game. The umpires see all of these high pitches and adjust the strike zone accordingly. Whatever the case, the PITCHf/x system at Coors is one of the worst in the league.
wow
That was a pretty frustrating first inning to watch. Looks like the bullpen is going to need to get going early and often for both sides.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions
Off day tomorrow
So burn the pen. Get Torres an inning no matter what the score is.
by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone know if they use the humidor at Colorado Springs?
I wonder if the park factor there has gone down as much as Coors has?
I hate it when the pitcher swings at the first pitch
Especially our pitchers. If you are just going to make an out anyway make the other pitcher throw a few.
Trenni fashion
Again with the thin horizontal stripes. I wonder what that’s about.
On the plus side, she has an odd red necklace sort of thing that is almost totally encircling her left boob. Thanks, Trenni!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
The Rock: "Ned is a numbers guy."
I had to share.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Suppan can't find the strike zone
Learn from my mistakes, Ned….get Villy up now
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions
back to back walks
ruh-roh
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
What do you need laundry for?
I’ve been sitting in the same pair of boxers in my mom’s basement since 2003.
He's extremely quick and good.
Too late to get villy up now
May as well send in DiFelice
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:58 PM CDT reply actions
jeez
It’s like Doug Davis and Claudio Vargas merged into one crappy pitcher with a horseshoe up his ass
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions
Odds that Ned leaves Suppan out there to start the 3rd?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 8, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions
Very needed
Soup has only given up one run but he certainly has walked the tight rope so far.
by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
So for those who were watching on MLB gameday
Here is what my corrections think about the Coor strikezone.
The Rockies have a good number of lefties in their lineup and lefties really get murdered on that outer corner (negative x) so that is pretty standard. The strange thing is the height. It appears that the umps really don’t call the low strike at Coors. Is that because they see so few balls there? I don’t know.
Yeah I don't know what to say
Honestly, all the other parks have a mean height of under 2.6 feet and Coors is above 2.7 ft. Not sure if this is a bug or a real feature yet.
by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Suppan's a magician
If he can go another inning or 2 without major damage, I will be awed by this performance
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions
pretty decent season, actually
I think this season is probably a B+, in terms of what we expected when we signed him
by keephopealive on Jun 8, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
well, I probably overstated that a bit
I think of a B as average in our grade-inflation society, and he’s been somewhat above average… better ERA than I expected, and he’s made all his starts, which we expected… plus, he just walked.
by keephopealive on Jun 8, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
jj shows bunt
Watching JJ try to beat out a bunt for a base hit would be painful
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:14 PM CDT reply actions
Is it just me or does...
...J.J. have a really awkward swing, bobs his head and stuff…
...Kendall looks like he swings from low to high, like a big “O”, his follow-through ends
up out in front of him.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
wow
francis shows some professional courtesy to suppan
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:17 PM CDT reply actions
Grown man with a baseball glove
Snagging a ball from a kid. Someone should walk through the stands smacking people like that
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:19 PM CDT reply actions
I just remembered
I had a dream last night that I was scrambling for a foul ball, and then ended up giving it to a little kid.
Oddly benevolent dream for me.
He's extremely quick and good.
In exchange for what?
Benevolence over.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Those are legal?
We should be winning more games then.
Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart.
by Getting Yosted on Jun 8, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
5-5 down in Houston
It would be nice to see them win that game so we can get that one back from the Cards.
Very nice
Hard hit again but right at Hardy. Seems like that has happened several times today.
In other games
Phils won against in Atlanta? I think they are going to run away with that division now.
So how do the Rockies only have two hits?
It seems like they have been on base a lot and Soup has had to work out of a lot of jams. Oh yeah the five walks.
Josh Butler
The guy we got for Gabe Gross, Josh Butler, has been generally crappy so far, but had a great start today, six shutout innings with 7 K’s.
He's extremely quick and good.
That is something at least
I just hate to give those guys away for nothing like we did with Sarfate. Maybe Butler can turn into something at least.
by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
The Sarfate thing continues to stick in my craw
I really don’t get it.
He's extremely quick and good.
Me too
I was/am pretty high on him. I know he isn’t going to be an all star but the kid has so much potential.
by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I know, right?
We keep Turnbow around forever, but Sarfate was DFA’d seemingly for the hell of it.
He's extremely quick and good.
Uh oh
Watch out for casual fans!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
ah, looks like a good day in sports
the German squad just won their first match in the Euro Championship and the Brewers are actually leading against the Rockies…looking at his line, Suppan doing a tightrope act again, I guess?
oh boy, that second inning must have been a beauty
I suppose it’s a good thing that he manages to concentrate most of the damage in one inning without giving up five runs in the process…
I really wouldn't mid seeing Villy for an inning today
He change should be even more effective at Coors. He sure looked good his last appearance.
I guess he'd have to come in in the seventh
Since we know Mota is the Eighth Inning Guy.
He's extremely quick and good.
I don't know how I do it.
I’m like psychic or somthing. ;-)
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
Badgerblogger.com reader?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
YES!!!
Nice DP.
BTW, how close does the SS’s foot have to be to the bag for the first out on the DP to be called? Cuz JJ looked not even close.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
It's always seemed to me that if his feet go over the bag on the way by, they get the call...
... regardless of the fact that the SS usually doesn’t have the ball yet as he goes over the bag. I’ve seen worse than that one.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 8, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
It's like when the throw beats the runner at home by ten feet, but he's tagged high on the chest
He’s still called out every time.
He's extremely quick and good.
It is but don't you want a lefty killer here?
Why even have Shouse warming then? You aren’t going to bring him in for Adkins and by the time it gets to Hawpe the game could be over.
by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I am just saying that if you aren't going to go with the lefty with bases loaded 1 out
by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, I know
I just reminds me of when my girlfriend turns to me and asks me why the cat just attacked the wall, or why he is sitting in the corner starting at his feet.
Cats, and Ned Yost, are rather inscrutable.
He's extremely quick and good.
Heh
Why is Ned Yost sitting in the corner staring at his feet?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Remember the big headline a couple weeks back
When JJ couldn’t handle the double play ball and everyone went on about how they should have been out of the inning? I wonder if Joltin’ Joe gets the same treatment
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:24 PM CDT reply actions
hahaha
I can imagine that phrase appearing in a js online blog, too
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I also wonder if Ned would rag on Dillon about it the way he hammers JJ Hardy when he screws up.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 8, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
For God's sake
DON’T WALK HIM
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Let's all jump on Dillon time?
Like Weeks couldn’t have blown the same play?
Dillon has a .750 OBP today. You can rake ANY of these guys.
Dillon, “escape” goat of the day.
I miss Ueck's old Wisconsin Dental Association sponsorship read...
Every day after the game, for years, he’d read it like this:
Wisconsin Dental Association: The sign of a dentist…... Who cares?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 8, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
man
JJ is the slowest scrawny guy I ever saw
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply actions
JJ is best buds
with Arizonan Robin Yount.
Figure Alcides will join the team before the season is out and JJ is trade bait for more pitching.
Comments?
by heybatterbatter on Jun 8, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I just don't think Hardy
is long-term for the Brewers.
I saw Escobar play in Arizona. Blew me away.
by heybatterbatter on Jun 8, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Hardy also might get moved
But yeah, I was just showing my dad Huntsville’s stats (he doesn’t follow the minors), and telling him that despite the big numbers in the middle of the lineup, Escobar was going to be the first guy called up.
He's extremely quick and good.
Could Hardy play second?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Yeah, it's a definitely possibility if Rickie is injured or continues to suck and they don't look at Iribarren as a starter
He's extremely quick and good.
Or, if Rickey can't
get his BA and OBP 30 points higher…
by heybatterbatter on Jun 8, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
If Hall can
play SS, CF, and 3B, then you would think Hardy could somehow figure out second base.
by heybatterbatter on Jun 8, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
He's played 2B plenty
But they don’t seem particularly high on him at the moment, if you haven’t noticed.
He's extremely quick and good.
Wow
Tough one to take.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Well that's a relief
Mota isn’t really the 8th inning guy. He was just making things up again.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:42 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah.
It’s not like it’s not a save situation. :)
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 8, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
so i take it kapler missed the ball
and braun picked it up?
why’d they give an error on gameday to braun?
hmmm
they gave him a hit, but kapler an error on the catch allowing the runner to advance? zat right? I’ve never seen that before.
Has anyone else noticed
Braun has yet to commit an error this season. Wow!
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on Jun 8, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but a lot of people still think he's really bad
The Giants nitwit was talking about how bad Ryan and Corey are. Flubbies fans refer to him as the Kosher Butcher among other things. Yet watching only about 15 Cubs games I’ve seen the fantastic Fukudome mishandle 4 or 5 balls. Yesterday or the day before he had one in his glove that he dropped.
Me too.
In defense of the nitwit, since he was sniffing around LaPorta, I think his point was that Braun, Hart, LaPorta OF would be bad defensively. While I like Hart’s defense, I think he becomes average at best in CF instead of RF.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 8, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Wasn’t his phrase something like “one of the worst”?
And as goofy as Ryan has looked sometimes, he’s done pretty well.
I think he can be
one of the best in the NL in a few years.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
There is a new Eighth Inning Guy!
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on Jun 8, 2008 4:43 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice
Kapler and Dillon make several routine mistakes today, but their batting lines are good. What do you think people will focus on?
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:43 PM CDT reply actions
It's always easier to jump on
the B-team guys, I guess.
We want to forgive the “heavy hitters” for their failings, for some reason.
No logic to it, really…..
by heybatterbatter on Jun 8, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the opposite is true
Fans seem to love Kapler and Dillon, and for some reason clamor for them to replace Cameron and Weeks. I guess the lower expectations magnify their good plays, and the mistakes are forgiven because they aren’t supposed to be any better.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I was referring to us
at BCB and the comments earlier.
I’d like to see Dillon more. Kapler, too.
For now, they deserve more ABs.
by heybatterbatter on Jun 8, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I'll ride Kapler and Dillon
I don’t think they belong in the lineup, they definitely shouldn’t be 1-2, and they’re fielding hurts the team. Dillon allowed 2 balls to go by him that Weeks probably would have gotten, and blew a double play that could have ended an inning. Kapler displayed boneheaded baserunning and sloppy fielding, both of with could have cost the team runs. The fact that they each managed a couple of hits/walks shouldn’t overshadow the fact that they were responsible for negative plays.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
If it's Sunday
It’s a Sunday lineup.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Although we owe them
for pretty much our entire offense, it’s worth mentioning that there is usually a difference between starters and reserves.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Even if they bring someone else for the 9th
This situation is much higher leverage than 9th inning no outs 1 run lead.
by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't put it past Yost
to not know what inning it is
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on Jun 8, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Torres has been pretty good
but I still can’t believe he’s our best reliever. If Melvin were here, I’d give him a wedgie.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:50 PM CDT reply actions
If Wedge were here, you'd give him a Melvin
by keephopealive on Jun 8, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Wedge is here!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Even if Gagne and Riske were healthy
Torres is our best reliever.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I am too upset with that walk
Sets up the double play and Quintanilla is not great. That 3-2 pitch was pretty close too.
This is just a Brewers blog
enough with your delusions of grandeur
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on Jun 8, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Awesome
Other teams go on contact there, too!
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:56 PM CDT reply actions
Lots of comments today
Usually the weekend is the dead time, but this is the most comments we’ve gotten for a game thread in awhile.
He's extremely quick and good.
"feels like" 100 in nyc right now
just got back from the tennis court…it was awesome!
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
astoria park
i live in astoria, about a 15 minute walk. and now a thunderstorm!
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
ahh...okay
i jogged through astoria a few times when I was living there. I lived in Woodside (near Sunnyside) for a bit. Didn’t come across Astoria park itself though.
it's on the river
roughly between astoria blvd and ditmars blvd. not really on the way anywhere, but there are 14 decent courts, so it’s my home away from home about eight months of the year.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a couple of friends/former co-workers that just moved to the city
if you’re looking for a tennis partner, one is really, really good (IMO) the other one is like a 2.5 player.
And then there’s my former roommate, who is just learning tennis, but has a lot of raw talent.
I may take you up on that at some point
for now, I have more partners than I have time for. i’m playing every day with this girl who plays college D1, and that is just about enough by itself.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
sounds like
..better than I can offer.
The good player I mentioned probably could have been a low end D1 player. He played for a D2(?) school for a while, if I remember correctly.
New Yorkers
for now, I have more partners than I have time for.
I thought Studio 54 had closed?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
yeah yeah
I figured that was on its way.
if only…
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice
We could still use 3 or 4 runs here, just to be sure
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:59 PM CDT reply actions
Kapler error
was charged as a missed catch error on gameday, hence my confusion there. more like a missed stop error/general fielding error.
So I guess you kind of have to leave Torres in
He has throw a good amount of pitches but he has been so good. Maybe get someone warming if he gets in trouble?
mccarver's spinning in his grave
he’s alive?
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
had to come from Ned, right?
Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay
just stupid. Corey is one of our best RBI guys. Ned just hates him
Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay
Think about it
If we win- but were Yosted- I wonder if we can record the Yost? Marty?
"Just the kiss of the Hops"
I don't know how official any of this is
Since the definition is “to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory” I’ll go on receord saying the Brewers have to lose.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
We're pretty strict
Only one recorded so far this year.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe
the Attempted Yosting (AY) is like today, where he tried "to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" but couldn’t. A Blown Yost (BY) is when we lose the lead because he tried "to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" but the team comes back and wins anyway. Being Yosted (Y!) is losing because he did " snatch defeat from the jaws of victory".
"Just the kiss of the Hops"
Y! is taken
That’s Yahoo.
Which might be applicable…
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Going out on a limb here
A blown Yost is a happy Yost.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
but technically would be very rare-
because we would have to come back from an official Yosting.
"Just the kiss of the Hops"
Game ovah!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Yost
I realize this argument is in the wrong place of this thread, but I think the argument could be made that Ned won us the game today.
He managed Villy well by keeping him in against Helton, and he did very well with the 2 inning save with Torres.
Many will disagree, but if we are Yosted because of Yost’s stupidity, then he must be commended when certain things go well and we win.
And he inserted Dillon and Kapler
who both had roles in scoring decisive runs…...
by heybatterbatter on Jun 8, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok. But before we get carried away...
... keep in mind the following: Kapler ran into an out in the first inning, costing the Brewers a run. Both Kapler and Dillon also had errors that didn’t cost the Brewers the game only thanks to the pitchers managing to wiggle off the hook.
I don’t dispute that they were effective at the plate. But their performances today could have just as easily resulted in a 4-3 loss. I don’t think happenstance makes Ned a genius for plugging them into the lineup, particularly when Weeks was out because he’s unavailable due to injury.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 8, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
But Dillon scored two runs
And Kapler drove him in on one. Weeks/Cameron might not have scored those runs and just struck out instead. That would show the final score as us losing 2-1. That would make any defensive/baserunning plays made by the two positions moot.
This strikes me as a silly conversation...
... but Weeks wasn’t available, and thus if you’re looking to give Yost credit (which is how this exchange started) you can’t pat him on the back for having the foresight to start Dillon over Weeks, since that wasn’t the choice he made.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 9, 2008 6:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I'm not giving him credit
I’m just saying that you could see it both ways. Like Marty said, Cameron could have hit a homerun. But he also could have struck out. You said that their errors could have resulted in a 4-3 loss and I’m saying that with them out it could have been a 2-1 loss. Either way, it doesn’t matter.
But, yeah, I’m not really giving Yost credit. Especially since it was Sunday, so he likes playing the bench anyway.
And instead of driving in a run with a single
and then getting thrown out on the bases, Cameron could have hit a home run to clear them. This is a fun game.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 9, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
400!
woo hoo!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
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