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Game Thread #63: Brewers (32-30) at Rockies (24-38)

Today's matchup is one close to my heart.  Jeffs Suppan and Francis will go head to head at Coors Field, to see which Jeff can keep the ball in the park.  Francis was dominant his last time out, but gave up 6 runs in 6 innings his last start at Coors.

Suppan...well, he's been known to allow a deep fly now and then.

Game time is 2:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.

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So 100 games left on the schedule

Anyone want to guess the number of wins they have in the last 100? I am going to go with 54.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think if I think about it too much, my lingering sense of optimism will diminish.

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dillon?

What has he done to earn a start? I want Rickie in there after sitting yesterday.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At least he had a good AB there

Nice to get the lead off runner on.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

starting out 0-2 as well

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A walk and a hit notwithstanding

Dillon/Kapler at the top of the order makes me cry

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You said it.

Those guys have to get on in front of the big burly guys.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hope Suppan gets a strike call

on balls in the batters box

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Kapler’s baserunning is teh suck

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

but

he’s a good baserunner.

by Jordan M on Jun 8, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a lead a lead!

But Kapler makes the first out at 3rd :(

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Seems like a rookie mistake from a guy who is sold as a junior Yoda

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yostian logic

By getting thrown out at 3rd, Kapler allows Braun to advance to 2nd. Braun wouldn’t be in scoring position for Fielder if Kapler hadn’t made that out at 3rd.

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kapler

That was sad.

But hey, who was then one-hopping it to third base from centerfield, but Scotty Po!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Only out of the inning on the bases

Killing rallies in a park like Coors.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bad omen

I just finished a game in MLB2k8 and Suppan got shelled. Like always.

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep

I didn’t have someone warming up until the 3rd inning.

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yost beats you by an inning

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't you think

that, sooner or later, Ned is going to win Manager of the Year? That day will coincide with my first day of therapy.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it will probably come after an LCS appearance

So I doubt you’ll be too upset.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He got the first one for a .500 record

Maybe a wild card appearance would be enough for the next one

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't he win that after they went 81-81?

I don’t pay very close attention to those awards

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, he's never won it

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

He was like 3rd or 4th.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh

My world is a little better today. Don’t know why I thought he’d won, but it makes me smile to know he didn’t.

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The saddest part

This followed a 2 hit, complete game shutout for Vargas

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But not a no-hitter

with MLB 07, I had Ben Sheets take a no-hitter into the eighth and Reggie Abercrombie (Marlins) bunts one down the third base line, and Braun misses it and its a hit.

I now hate Reggie Abercrombie.

by Jordan M on Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His trade value has never been higher.

You could probably get Matt Cain for him.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So on that 1-2 pitch that Billy took

I wonder if he thought it was out of the zone or if he was just fooled?

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice AB from Billy

On that 1-2, he always takes that pitch. Frequently gets called out on it

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cards losing 3-0

I think that is who we are rooting for in that series.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Nice AB by Billy.

A little odd that even though Prince was running on the pitch, he still only made it to second.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 2:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

shhhhhhhh…

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are the odds

of Podsednik throwing someone out at third? Psssh.

Hmmm…

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good inning

I hope Soup doesn’t pull a Bush in the bottom of the inning

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Man more Griffey trying for 600 promos going on at MLB

The death march continues. It seems like they have been hyping that for about two months now.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yes

it helps when he actually plays. In that Phils series he would get 1 pinch hit AB a day and I think they walked him 2 days in a row.

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its getting like Bonds, just hit the damn thing already.

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

Podsednik in the game because of his career record against Suppan (4 hits in 11 ab). I love it when opposing managers do stupid things.

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He will start next time we play them too

because he has thrown out Kapler 100% of the time he has tried to take third on him.

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In Defense of Clint

Taveras really kind of sucks too.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crabbe Man

would have gotten that one in his pincers.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 2:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm I have never said this before but...

I wonder if Rickie gets to that ball?

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hard to say with the FSN coverage

MLB needs the equivalent of NFL game film

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Belicheck

needs an off season job

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So these Rockies announcers have been driving me crazy this series

I am going with Bob and Jim even though they are behind a pitch. They always are using very selective stats and stuff that obviously doesn’t matter to make a point. Adkins is hitting .425 on day games after a new moon this year.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

...while Bob

pulls up stats on his long-hand blog. That has to be my favorite running joke now.

by Jordan M on Jun 8, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree

they are morons and homers. After the Crew got the first two guys on they were saying it wasn’t bad because Braun could strike out and Prince could hit into a double play.

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I have been playing around with my PITCHf/x correction factors and appling them to the strikezone

They say that the highest called strike zone is at Coors by about an inch and a half (which is actually quite large). I have a theory that because the ball doesn’t drop like it does in most parks pitchers leave a lot of pitches up throughout the game. The umpires see all of these high pitches and adjust the strike zone accordingly. Whatever the case, the PITCHf/x system at Coors is one of the worst in the league.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

That was a pretty frustrating first inning to watch. Looks like the bullpen is going to need to get going early and often for both sides.

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Off day tomorrow

So burn the pen. Get Torres an inning no matter what the score is.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone know if they use the humidor at Colorado Springs?

I wonder if the park factor there has gone down as much as Coors has?

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate it when the pitcher swings at the first pitch

Especially our pitchers. If you are just going to make an out anyway make the other pitcher throw a few.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Trenni fashion

Again with the thin horizontal stripes. I wonder what that’s about.

On the plus side, she has an odd red necklace sort of thing that is almost totally encircling her left boob. Thanks, Trenni!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 2:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn you

Extra Innings and your bogus pickup of the Colorado feed.

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two walks for Dillon

Prove me wrong Joe.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

leads to two runs – baaaabyyy…

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dillon stealing

surprise factor high

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 2:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll say

First career steal

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to manufacture a run

We had darn well better win today after this start.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as long as

Ned doesn’t decide to bring Bush out of the pen

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Earth to Braun, earth to Braun

we’ve lost contact – if you’re there, please send x-base hit

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Francis over 50 pitches now

And really laboring out there.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Rock: "Ned is a numbers guy."

I had to share.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 2:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if gameday location is to be believed

Ball four was a strike in the middle of the plate

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I think it was called low

Maybe I will upload those strike zones.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon clint

You know what to call here

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

back to back walks

ruh-roh

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and a hit to goober who almost injures himself getting out of the batters box

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3-2 pitches that aren’t close is another sign of suckitude

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huge out there

Now maybe we can get out of this inning without any more damage.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeez

How did he get out of that?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

whew!

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

jeez

It’s like Doug Davis and Claudio Vargas merged into one crappy pitcher with a horseshoe up his ass

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hey

he got out of it.

by Oakland Brewer Fan on Jun 8, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lol @ MLBAM

watch the draft at MLB.com on the 5th and 6th.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

53 pitches for Francis

51 for Soup.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Someone gave FSN's HD feed acid

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Atkins is slooooooow

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This umpire is...

...a lint-licker.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Jun 8, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Son of a biscuit-eating bulldog!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great inning for Soup

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Very needed

Soup has only given up one run but he certainly has walked the tight rope so far.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So for those who were watching on MLB gameday

Here is what my corrections think about the Coor strikezone.

The Rockies have a good number of lefties in their lineup and lefties really get murdered on that outer corner (negative x) so that is pretty standard. The strange thing is the height. It appears that the umps really don’t call the low strike at Coors. Is that because they see so few balls there? I don’t know.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Suppan has been at the bottom of the strike zone all day – or just below this guy’s zone

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

Lets go J.J.

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by BrewerLover on Jun 8, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I don't know what to say

Honestly, all the other parks have a mean height of under 2.6 feet and Coors is above 2.7 ft. Not sure if this is a bug or a real feature yet.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suppan's a magician

If he can go another inning or 2 without major damage, I will be awed by this performance

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

pretty decent season, actually

I think this season is probably a B+, in terms of what we expected when we signed him

by keephopealive on Jun 8, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How ya feeling about today?

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, I probably overstated that a bit

I think of a B as average in our grade-inflation society, and he’s been somewhat above average… better ERA than I expected, and he’s made all his starts, which we expected… plus, he just walked.

by keephopealive on Jun 8, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’m just kidding. I was trying to refer to yesterday and your worries while Bush was pitching.

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

jj shows bunt

Watching JJ try to beat out a bunt for a base hit would be painful

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me or does...

...J.J. have a really awkward swing, bobs his head and stuff…
...Kendall looks like he swings from low to high, like a big “O”, his follow-through ends
up out in front of him.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Jun 8, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

francis shows some professional courtesy to suppan

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Grown man with a baseball glove

Snagging a ball from a kid. Someone should walk through the stands smacking people like that

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 3:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I just remembered

I had a dream last night that I was scrambling for a foul ball, and then ended up giving it to a little kid.

Oddly benevolent dream for me.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In exchange for what?

Benevolence over.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent camera work again

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Woah...

...Dillon.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Jun 8, 2008 3:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay!!!

Kapler’s up!

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Jun 8, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Jun 8, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Francis' spot is up next inning

He is over 80 pitches I wonder if they will pull him?

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok heart of the order due up

Time to bust out our Boom sticks.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Those are legal?

We should be winning more games then.

Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart.

by Getting Yosted on Jun 8, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

5-5 down in Houston

It would be nice to see them win that game so we can get that one back from the Cards.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the Cards have some pitchers dinged up. I see that Tony is on his fifth today.

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's unusual for him?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JJ on the spot

I wonder if he looks forward to Suppan pitching

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Very nice

Hard hit again but right at Hardy. Seems like that has happened several times today.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

In other games

Phils won against in Atlanta? I think they are going to run away with that division now.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So how do the Rockies only have two hits?

It seems like they have been on base a lot and Soup has had to work out of a lot of jams. Oh yeah the five walks.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Josh Butler

The guy we got for Gabe Gross, Josh Butler, has been generally crappy so far, but had a great start today, six shutout innings with 7 K’s.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That is something at least

I just hate to give those guys away for nothing like we did with Sarfate. Maybe Butler can turn into something at least.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Sarfate thing continues to stick in my craw

I really don’t get it.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

I was/am pretty high on him. I know he isn’t going to be an all star but the kid has so much potential.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, right?

We keep Turnbow around forever, but Sarfate was DFA’d seemingly for the hell of it.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is what I said at the time.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh oh

Watch out for casual fans!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...making phone calls

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah, looks like a good day in sports

the German squad just won their first match in the Euro Championship and the Brewers are actually leading against the Rockies…looking at his line, Suppan doing a tightrope act again, I guess?

by Zeyes on Jun 8, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh boy, that second inning must have been a beauty

I suppose it’s a good thing that he manages to concentrate most of the damage in one inning without giving up five runs in the process…

by Zeyes on Jun 8, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really wouldn't mid seeing Villy for an inning today

He change should be even more effective at Coors. He sure looked good his last appearance.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess he'd have to come in in the seventh

Since we know Mota is the Eighth Inning Guy.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take him out...

ASAP.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Jun 8, 2008 4:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Called it!

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Jun 8, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that was a toughie

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know how I do it.

I’m like psychic or somthing. ;-)

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Jun 8, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Badgerblogger.com reader?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES!!!

Nice DP.
BTW, how close does the SS’s foot have to be to the bag for the first out on the DP to be called? Cuz JJ looked not even close.

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by BrewerLover on Jun 8, 2008 4:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's always seemed to me that if his feet go over the bag on the way by, they get the call...

... regardless of the fact that the SS usually doesn’t have the ball yet as he goes over the bag. I’ve seen worse than that one.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 8, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he looked a foot off to me.

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by BrewerLover on Jun 8, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 4:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dillon?

WT?

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 4:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF?

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dillon is just noe a 2nd baseman

I seem to remember he had some issues there last year too.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 4:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh oh

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta be Villy last batter

Go with Shouse against Helton.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It is but don't you want a lefty killer here?

Why even have Shouse warming then? You aren’t going to bring him in for Adkins and by the time it gets to Hawpe the game could be over.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am just saying that if you aren't going to go with the lefty with bases loaded 1 out

Then don’t warm him up. You are just wasting pitchers.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, I know

I just reminds me of when my girlfriend turns to me and asks me why the cat just attacked the wall, or why he is sitting in the corner starting at his feet.

Cats, and Ned Yost, are rather inscrutable.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and

I claim to be allergic to both just so I don’t have to deal with them

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

Why is Ned Yost sitting in the corner staring at his feet?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember the big headline a couple weeks back

When JJ couldn’t handle the double play ball and everyone went on about how they should have been out of the inning? I wonder if Joltin’ Joe gets the same treatment

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If we lose the game?

Absolutely. They’ll make him the escape goat.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

I can imagine that phrase appearing in a js online blog, too

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They had a rag-a-thon on Branyon last night for not running out the ball he thought was a HR.

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For God's sake

DON’T WALK HIM

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 4:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's all jump on Dillon time?

Like Weeks couldn’t have blown the same play?

Dillon has a .750 OBP today. You can rake ANY of these guys.

Dillon, “escape” goat of the day.

by heybatterbatter on Jun 8, 2008 4:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Helton with bases clogged as well. That’s a WOW.

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good time

for a Badger Mutual Insurance Run

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 4:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I miss Ueck's old Wisconsin Dental Association sponsorship read...

Every day after the game, for years, he’d read it like this:

Wisconsin Dental Association: The sign of a dentist…... Who cares?

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 8, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

man

JJ is the slowest scrawny guy I ever saw

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe that's why I kind of like JJ

because I too am scrawny and slow as balls

by warwick5s on Jun 8, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JJ is best buds

with Arizonan Robin Yount.

Figure Alcides will join the team before the season is out and JJ is trade bait for more pitching.

Comments?

by heybatterbatter on Jun 8, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I shouldn't say very

I think that is possible.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only

if a pitcher of Scott Linebrink’s stature is available at the deadline

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't think Hardy

is long-term for the Brewers.

I saw Escobar play in Arizona. Blew me away.

by heybatterbatter on Jun 8, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hardy also might get moved

But yeah, I was just showing my dad Huntsville’s stats (he doesn’t follow the minors), and telling him that despite the big numbers in the middle of the lineup, Escobar was going to be the first guy called up.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could Hardy play second?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Hall can

play SS, CF, and 3B, then you would think Hardy could somehow figure out second base.

by heybatterbatter on Jun 8, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's played 2B plenty

But they don’t seem particularly high on him at the moment, if you haven’t noticed.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Tough one to take.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 4:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well that's a relief

Mota isn’t really the 8th inning guy. He was just making things up again.

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Torres up in the pen

I like it. I like it a lot.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

It’s not like it’s not a save situation. :)

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 8, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice one, Gabe

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 4:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A roller?

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shouse

having a rough weekend in Colorado. Braun not helping.

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 4:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

so i take it kapler missed the ball

and braun picked it up?

why’d they give an error on gameday to braun?

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 8, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because they messed up

It was Kapler’s fault.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm

they gave him a hit, but kapler an error on the catch allowing the runner to advance? zat right? I’ve never seen that before.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 8, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay..corrected

gameday got it right now, I guess

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 8, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone else noticed

Braun has yet to commit an error this season. Wow!

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Jun 8, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

he had one charged to him that they changed to a hit an inning later about two weeks ago.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 8, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but a lot of people still think he's really bad

The Giants nitwit was talking about how bad Ryan and Corey are. Flubbies fans refer to him as the Kosher Butcher among other things. Yet watching only about 15 Cubs games I’ve seen the fantastic Fukudome mishandle 4 or 5 balls. Yesterday or the day before he had one in his glove that he dropped.

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Hart's defense

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

In defense of the nitwit, since he was sniffing around LaPorta, I think his point was that Braun, Hart, LaPorta OF would be bad defensively. While I like Hart’s defense, I think he becomes average at best in CF instead of RF.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 8, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn’t his phrase something like “one of the worst”?

And as goofy as Ryan has looked sometimes, he’s done pretty well.

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he can be

one of the best in the NL in a few years.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Jun 8, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is a new Eighth Inning Guy!

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Jun 8, 2008 4:43 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice

Kapler and Dillon make several routine mistakes today, but their batting lines are good. What do you think people will focus on?

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's always easier to jump on

the B-team guys, I guess.

We want to forgive the “heavy hitters” for their failings, for some reason.

No logic to it, really…..

by heybatterbatter on Jun 8, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the opposite is true

Fans seem to love Kapler and Dillon, and for some reason clamor for them to replace Cameron and Weeks. I guess the lower expectations magnify their good plays, and the mistakes are forgiven because they aren’t supposed to be any better.

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was referring to us

at BCB and the comments earlier.

I’d like to see Dillon more. Kapler, too.

For now, they deserve more ABs.

by heybatterbatter on Jun 8, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I'll ride Kapler and Dillon

I don’t think they belong in the lineup, they definitely shouldn’t be 1-2, and they’re fielding hurts the team. Dillon allowed 2 balls to go by him that Weeks probably would have gotten, and blew a double play that could have ended an inning. Kapler displayed boneheaded baserunning and sloppy fielding, both of with could have cost the team runs. The fact that they each managed a couple of hits/walks shouldn’t overshadow the fact that they were responsible for negative plays.

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it's Sunday

It’s a Sunday lineup.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

shouse

I don’t like him pitching in colorado.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 8, 2008 4:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yikes

is Sports Illustrated along for this field trip? I am getting deja vu.

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 4:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

road trip

not field trip. Heat is getting to me.

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although we owe them

for pretty much our entire offense, it’s worth mentioning that there is usually a difference between starters and reserves.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 4:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So I think it is time for Torres

We need a K here and Shouse isn’t going to K Spillbourghs.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 4:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Even if they bring someone else for the 9th

This situation is much higher leverage than 9th inning no outs 1 run lead.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or...

yost is planning on using mota in the 9th
it’s still closer-by-committee officially.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 8, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't put it past Yost

to not know what inning it is

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Jun 8, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Torres has been pretty good

but I still can’t believe he’s our best reliever. If Melvin were here, I’d give him a wedgie.

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wedge is here!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am too upset with that walk

Sets up the double play and Quintanilla is not great. That 3-2 pitch was pretty close too.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 4:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i'd rather

have a K there instead

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 8, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you in a George Lucas film?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is just a Brewers blog

enough with your delusions of grandeur

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Jun 8, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 4:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

Other teams go on contact there, too!

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice rundown

Billy chased him down,

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 4:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lots of comments today

Usually the weekend is the dead time, but this is the most comments we’ve gotten for a game thread in awhile.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"feels like" 100 in nyc right now

just got back from the tennis court…it was awesome!

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

astoria park

i live in astoria, about a 15 minute walk. and now a thunderstorm!

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahh...okay

i jogged through astoria a few times when I was living there. I lived in Woodside (near Sunnyside) for a bit. Didn’t come across Astoria park itself though.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 8, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's on the river

roughly between astoria blvd and ditmars blvd. not really on the way anywhere, but there are 14 decent courts, so it’s my home away from home about eight months of the year.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a couple of friends/former co-workers that just moved to the city

if you’re looking for a tennis partner, one is really, really good (IMO) the other one is like a 2.5 player.

And then there’s my former roommate, who is just learning tennis, but has a lot of raw talent.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 8, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I may take you up on that at some point

for now, I have more partners than I have time for. i’m playing every day with this girl who plays college D1, and that is just about enough by itself.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds like

..better than I can offer.

The good player I mentioned probably could have been a low end D1 player. He played for a D2(?) school for a while, if I remember correctly.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 8, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

New Yorkers
for now, I have more partners than I have time for.

I thought Studio 54 had closed?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah yeah

I figured that was on its way.

if only…

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whew

Please let the ninth be easy. My ulcers hurt.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice

We could still use 3 or 4 runs here, just to be sure

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 4:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

cue Prince

get after it big fella

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kapler error

was charged as a missed catch error on gameday, hence my confusion there. more like a missed stop error/general fielding error.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 8, 2008 5:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So I guess you kind of have to leave Torres in

He has throw a good amount of pitches but he has been so good. Maybe get someone warming if he gets in trouble?

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 5:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea

I would leave him in at this point.

by zsattler on Jun 8, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But definitely have someone warming up just in case!

by zsattler on Jun 8, 2008 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ridiculous bunt

"Just the kiss of the Hops"

by Gus Lezcano on Jun 8, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

had to come from Ned, right?

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Jun 8, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just stupid. Corey is one of our best RBI guys. Ned just hates him

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Jun 8, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

Hart was hitting .345 with RISP coming into today. Make him bunt, real smart.

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

plus you are in Coors – lots of green green grass out there

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you have to be behind

to be Yosted? kinda like a save?

"Just the kiss of the Hops"

by Gus Lezcano on Jun 8, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

big no on that one

by ol Pete on Jun 8, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think about it

If we win- but were Yosted- I wonder if we can record the Yost? Marty?

"Just the kiss of the Hops"

by Gus Lezcano on Jun 8, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know how official any of this is

Since the definition is “to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory” I’ll go on receord saying the Brewers have to lose.

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

But shows that some rules should be designed.

"Just the kiss of the Hops"

by Gus Lezcano on Jun 8, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're pretty strict

Only one recorded so far this year.

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 8, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

by analogy

maybe a yosted game we still win should be recorded as a Blown Yost?

by Zeyes on Jun 8, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

That way we can keep track of the games he attempted a Yosting.

"Just the kiss of the Hops"

by Gus Lezcano on Jun 8, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

the Attempted Yosting (AY) is like today, where he tried "to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" but couldn’t. A Blown Yost (BY) is when we lose the lead because he tried "to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" but the team comes back and wins anyway. Being Yosted (Y!) is losing because he did " snatch defeat from the jaws of victory".

"Just the kiss of the Hops"

by Gus Lezcano on Jun 8, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There could also be

Y% for the year, including all Yosting efforts.

"Just the kiss of the Hops"

by Gus Lezcano on Jun 8, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Y!?

Yost Factorial?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Y! is taken

That’s Yahoo.

Which might be applicable…

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Going out on a limb here

A blown Yost is a happy Yost.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

but technically would be very rare-
because we would have to come back from an official Yosting.

"Just the kiss of the Hops"

by Gus Lezcano on Jun 8, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Blown Yost

would be rare, that is.

"Just the kiss of the Hops"

by Gus Lezcano on Jun 8, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember

Corey Hart can’t lead off because we need his RBIs in the 5th spot.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok two more

We really need this one.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 5:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That ball scared me

In Coors you never know about those.

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by dixieflatline on Jun 8, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game ovah!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2008 5:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

did NOT want to get swept by a terrible team.

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2008 5:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i came back just in time!

I should promise that the Brewers won’t suck every day!

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2008 5:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

(reference earlier comment thread)

That’s what Trenni said to Braun.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 8, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yost

I realize this argument is in the wrong place of this thread, but I think the argument could be made that Ned won us the game today.

He managed Villy well by keeping him in against Helton, and he did very well with the 2 inning save with Torres.

Many will disagree, but if we are Yosted because of Yost’s stupidity, then he must be commended when certain things go well and we win.

by brewfan2 on Jun 8, 2008 6:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

but isn’t that his job?

by Jordan M on Jun 8, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup, Definitely his job

I just wanted to point out that on some occasions he does help.

by brewfan2 on Jun 8, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he inserted Dillon and Kapler

who both had roles in scoring decisive runs…...

by heybatterbatter on Jun 8, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok. But before we get carried away...

... keep in mind the following: Kapler ran into an out in the first inning, costing the Brewers a run. Both Kapler and Dillon also had errors that didn’t cost the Brewers the game only thanks to the pitchers managing to wiggle off the hook.

I don’t dispute that they were effective at the plate. But their performances today could have just as easily resulted in a 4-3 loss. I don’t think happenstance makes Ned a genius for plugging them into the lineup, particularly when Weeks was out because he’s unavailable due to injury.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 8, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Dillon scored two runs

And Kapler drove him in on one. Weeks/Cameron might not have scored those runs and just struck out instead. That would show the final score as us losing 2-1. That would make any defensive/baserunning plays made by the two positions moot.

by NoahJ on Jun 8, 2008 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This strikes me as a silly conversation...

... but Weeks wasn’t available, and thus if you’re looking to give Yost credit (which is how this exchange started) you can’t pat him on the back for having the foresight to start Dillon over Weeks, since that wasn’t the choice he made.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 9, 2008 6:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I'm not giving him credit

I’m just saying that you could see it both ways. Like Marty said, Cameron could have hit a homerun. But he also could have struck out. You said that their errors could have resulted in a 4-3 loss and I’m saying that with them out it could have been a 2-1 loss. Either way, it doesn’t matter.

But, yeah, I’m not really giving Yost credit. Especially since it was Sunday, so he likes playing the bench anyway.

by NoahJ on Jun 9, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And instead of driving in a run with a single

and then getting thrown out on the bases, Cameron could have hit a home run to clear them. This is a fun game.

by Marty McSuperFly on Jun 9, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

400!

woo hoo!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

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Milwaukee 80 82 .493 11 Won 3
Cincinnati 78 84 .481 13 Won 2
Houston 74 88 .456 17 Lost 3
Pittsburgh 62 99 .385 28.5 Lost 2

(updated 11.25.2009 at 10:33 AM CST)

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