Game Thread #83: Brewers (44-38) at D-Backs (42-41)
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 1, 2008 6:45 PM CDT
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PrintI think Daron Sutton is out to get us. In the first inning last night, he was talking about how the D-Backs just can't seem to beat the Brewers. He might as well have announced during the pregame that Dave Bush was throwing a no-hitter.
Tonight's starters have a combined age of 155 77, with a lot of that burden carried by Randy Johnson. RJ is starting to pitch like an old guy, only not as well as Jamie Moyer, the quintessential old pitcher in the 21st century. He coughed up 7 runs in two of his last three starts, and his ERA is only a smidgen better than Dave Bush's. That said, he did hold the Red Sox to two runs in his last start, and that's nothing to sneeze at. (Also, don't sneeze at Randy. Literally. He'll get angry, and he'll also get hurt.)
Jeff Suppan goes for us, and despite a blip a couple of starts ago, he's still in the middle of an impressive run. His ERA in May and June combined is 3.38, and he's given up only four longballs in that time. (Could be luck, but either way, I'll take it.) Another interesting note from Supp's gamelog: he's only gone over 100 pitches four time this year. Despite that, he's averaging just a tiny bit below 6 innings per start.
Enough of that...game time is 8:40 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
Go Brewers!
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No Prince tonight
They have hart in the 4 spot. That will give a somewhat different feel to the lineup.
bk and whoever else is interested
Here’s a story on our two Wisconsin high school future pro baseball players. Brad and Phil Schreiber were the Post-Crescent co-baseball players of the year in the area. The story doesn’t feature much scouting report stuff, but it’s interesting enough.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
That link goes to the comments
this one goes to the top of the page and the story
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
strange lineup; but they will probably win the game...
cause that is about how much sense this season has made so far…
go get em' seth!
If not for the fact he's pitching tomorrow
I’m surprised that McClung isn’t at 1B tonight. Hey, he’s the only other Brewer who can hit RJ, even though he’s left-handed and all…
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 1, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Rays
Good game again- leading Boston 2-1 bottom 6. And I think everyone in Florida smokes because every time I watch a Marlins or Rays game there are a ton of stop smoking ads.
Lineup
Weeks has a stomach virus. Cameron hasn’t ever really hit Randy Johnson and hasn’t lit the world on fire anyway recently so there’s not much reason to ask for him in there. Fielder’s had issues lately and Johnson’s still been effective against lefties so it’s a good time to let the big guy have a day off.
Anyway, would batting order even be an issue if Fielder was in the lineup?
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I have a stomach virus, too.
After seeing this lineup!
I’ll be here all week. The 7 o’clock show is completely different than the 9 o’clock show!
NO!
Try the veal, though
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 1, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry... don't forget to tip your waitresses!
I always give mine a tip… Like never pet a flaming dog!
If you liked my show and you’d like to show me that you did… there’s a jar… by the door…
For putting in your tips!
Again, why?
If Fielder was in the lineup, would you be as upset?
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I don't see how...
... anyone can get on Ned for benching a couple of guys batting .220, particularly when one’s sick, though I bet we wish Cameron was roaming in CF before the games done.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 1, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Big League Stew on Randy Johnson’s struggles:
Johnson hasn’t been locating his pitches as well lately. “One of his big pitches is that slider to the back leg, that left-on-right slider down and in,” D-Backs pitch coach Bryan Price said, referring to the pitch the left-handed Johnson often uses to strike out right-handed hitters. “That’s probably been the pitch that he’s had the hardest time getting where it needs to be on a consistent basis over the last three or four starts.”“He’s been throwing it really good on the side and in the pregame … Lately, in game situations, it hasn’t been as sharp. But it’s certainly still there. He hasn’t lost it. He just hasn’t put it where he needs to put it as often.”
He's extremely quick and good.
Does anybody else
vote for their Fantasy AL players and/or just a motley bunch of ALers?
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 1, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply actions
Life's good when you get two infield singles in an inning
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Especially when literally hit off of the guy who killed you last night
He's extremely quick and good.
call it babip then
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by TheJay on Jul 1, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just curious
Is Ricky Weeks the first player to have a stomach virus on a day that Randy Johnson pitches?
I bet John Kruk did after that All-Star Game appearance
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Mike Roberts
He’s the late-round catcher from VMI that I interviewed; he just hit a three-run bomb in his first professional AB, for Helena.
He's extremely quick and good.
And he just added a two-run triple
Not a bad debut, especially considering that outside of Komatsu, really no one is hitting at Helena.
He's extremely quick and good.
I can't wait for CC
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 1, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions
Balfour
Former Brewer just K-ed Youkilis to lead off the ninth, after getting Lowell to ground out with the bases loaded to end the 8th. Looking like he’s going to nail down the save.
Finally...
Dillon now completes it.. all position players on the current roster have hit a home run.
JJ
First multi-homer game since August 17 of last year.
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I smell a 10 run rule
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 1, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone see Randy Johnson's illegitmate daughter ever?
He fathered her and then didn’t pay any attention to her. And all she got out of it was a NY Post article. If RJ is going to saddle someone with those genes as far as looks are concerned, he should at least be a father to them.
Would you really want RJ as your father?
Can you imagine what the daddy/daughter dance would be like?
She's probably left-handed
Everything he throws at lefties, shunning presumably included, looks like it’s coming right at them before missing them at the last instant. She just has to hang in there and not try to do too much with it.
He's extremely quick and good.
Offensive
Maybe we should fear Randy Johnson more as a hitter than a pitcher these days. His only HR came at Miller Park.
Kirbir says...
“Randy Johnson looks to me like the kind of guy that sits outside of his broken-down mobile home with not enough clothes, smoking entirely way too much to the point of having that smoky film on his skin and checking out any high schoolers that wander by.”
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wait...
most people don’t check out high schoolers that wander by?
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 1, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Where else would one have excess grit
but in the desert
I made a post about that earlier on the RISP post
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Kendall
First IBB since August 1, 2007.
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Did you know?
Since they were first recorded in 1955, Gary DiSarcina has 60% again as many PAs without an intentional walk (4032) than the next guy (Wayne Tolleson, 2613).
He's extremely quick and good.
Good Feet Store
If only they had been around in the 70s/80s Jim Gantner and Bill Schroeder would now be in the Hall of Fame.
by statsllc on Jul 1, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Expectations!?!
I don’t know who is commentating with Sutton, but he is an idiot. The whole expectations thing. Sports psych is huge, especially in baseball.
Giants pull a double steal with guys on first and third
All star Soto blows it and throws to second.
Gamel 2/4 with 2 doubles
average is rising
Sam Narron threw a complete game, 1 run allowed
I saw bk’s comment on Aguilar above- have you seen this video of him? Kinda a pudgyish dude.
And I posted this above, but here are Wisconsin’s future pro baseball players, Brad and Phil Schreiber, profiled in the Post Crescent.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
They have another
guy who looks like he’s seventeen and should be out cruising and all the 15 year olds are crazy for? Really? That Jack Z covers all the bases in the draft.
by Getting Yosted on Jul 1, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Craig Counsell can do that
Or at least he would have been able to fill that role 7 years ago. Now, not so sure—all the women I know who like him are over 30.
Was it the trainer
or Trenni?
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Brett Myers
got sent to AAA. He was the Phils’ opening day starter. I bet there haven’t been too many opening day starters sent to the minors before the all star break (that weren’t injury related).
Dewon Brazelton pulled off the feat in 2005
For Tampa Bay.
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To the bullpen
Maybe we can wear out another team’s bullpen with two more games to go in the series.
There’s a Yost-bashing comment waiting in there somewhere, but I’ve had too many beers to work it out….
This is like the scene in Major League when they reteach Dorn how to field
He's extremely quick and good.
Randy Johnson
Sure, he’s out of the game, but that doesn’t mean we can’t find one of his previous appearances against the Brewers amusing.
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Really not commanding his pitches tonight
by dixieflatline on Jul 1, 2008 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
So do you pinch hit for Suppan here?
He is leading off the inning and clearly doesn’t have it. We have some big boppers on the bench and a righty now in.
Was the "big bopper" you were planning on named
Craig Counsell?
12 games in 12 days after this
Probably had a role to play in leaving Suppan in.
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I know right?
Corey Hart stole two bases on Rivera’s homer in the first!
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I wonder if Branyan makes that play
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It seems that the less time billy has to think the better.
by dixieflatline on Jul 1, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I really like Stetter
Hopefully Choate has to earn his way in to the second lefty in the pen.
That said, a bunch of righties up next inning
by dixieflatline on Jul 1, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a bad feeling
that Ned might find a high-leverage situation to break in Gagne.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Yeah but,
from the way they’re talking, it’s a done deal he’s up. I hope not. Stetter’s been decent, if not good, in his opportunities thus far…
Yeah but they kept DeFelice and let go of Taveres
At least until Gagne was ready. If Choate earns it in AAA then fine but make him earn it.
by dixieflatline on Jul 1, 2008 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm probably just paranoid but...
... I don’t like the fact that Braun looked at his right hand after getting jammed into a fly ball out in his last at bat and then he bunts the first pitch of his next at bat. This is the first time I’ve heard any mention that his hand has been bothering him, though that explains some of the ugly swings he’s had lately. Maybe it would be better if he had the all-star break off…
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 1, 2008 10:38 PM CDT reply actions
I've heard them talking about it for a week or two
I kind of remember him hurting it for a diving catch.
I think it was a bad swing actually
Yup here is the article, but he wasn’t sure
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Ugly pitch he hit
Lucky Billy Hall wasn’t up, he would’ve been liable to strike out on that.
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I was just thinking,
it’s time to sign Hart toa slightly less Braun-esque contract! Sure, he doesn’t have Braunie’s hitting ability, but it’s still pretty damn good, and his overall instincts are among the best I’ve ever seen(taking the extra base, bunting, steals, etc.). Having those 2 long-term, I think, is our best chance of being vying for a W.S. shot in the near future.
He turned down an offer in spring training
Probably wanted to build up his value with a full, non-Mench obstructed season. I’d imagine they’ll negotiate in the offseason.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
He is arby eligible
Probably the most likely chance to sign him will be around arby time next year.
by dixieflatline on Jul 1, 2008 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point
His contract would appear to be higher than Braun’s in value, but would probably be for 4 or 5 years, depending if they could buy out 1 or 2 years of FA.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Hall not hitting some fastballs down the middle
I don’t know what to do with him right now. Can we DL him for Lasik?
Dr Rick Riveria
I’m sure they could find some doctor to say it was mandatory. Like headaches or migraines.
Dillo and Rivera arguing there
Both kind of playing out of position. With Counsell already out I guess nobody to put there defensively.
Why did he pinch-hit him?
Dillon has shown little at second defensively. From a guy like Ned who pulled Braun every single game down the stretch last year, why would he leave himself without an option there?
Also, I think Torres will get an inning here regardless of the score.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Hall could play 2B
I’m sure they wouldn’t like to do it, but it’s an option.
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you were right
so…barely-a-save-situation in the 9th (assuming the lead doesn’t shrink or increase), what’s the bet on Gagne doing 9th inning duty?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 1, 2008 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's Torres
He hasn’t pitched since that save he got in Atlanta where he gave up two runs.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Rivera double
either that demonstrated the worst plate discipline I’ve ever seen, or he’s a batting genius. That ball was completely out of the zone, but he hit it with the middle of the bat.
I hear he swings a five-foot hickory bat
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Schroeder undoubtedly fractured both
Before this game.
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nevermind
stupid gameday or self…not sure which.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 1, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
This will be out of nowhere but...
I kind of like Corey in the four hole. I realize it will never happen, but it would be interesting to have Prince bat 5th behind him for awhile.
Alright...
...who would bat behind Prince to protect him then?
branyan
on days where the proper handed pitcher is in.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 1, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
pick your poison
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
maybe gagne can come in after
Mota lets the first 3 on.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 1, 2008 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
hmm
i would predict not
Torres for the 2 inning save, Gagne to pitch tomorrow’s 9th.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 1, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I say have him fake an injury
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
since no one is probably warming up in the bullpen
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
in play run(s)
Is the worse thing you can see on gameday
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
I was about to say that
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
well...wasn't too bad
they don’t have in play out(s) run(s)
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 1, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Could have been two there
Dillon made a nice play getting to it but a real second baseman turns 2 there.
or 14th?
in terms of ABs this year so far
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Now that I think about it, 25th
Last guy on the roster. :)
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Mike Rivera
Geez he’s making the most of his time at first.
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Good thing we have a dominant setup man
BABIP is our friend that inning
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
So much for Cain being done
he batted for himself in the bottom of the seventh and singled.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Insane Gaints letting Cain hit
Might as well let him go 130 pitches tonight. I mean the pennant is on the line and everything. I’ll take it though as he has been pitching great.
For those watching the D'Backs feed
Jeff Moraad sure looks like a bad ass. I wonder if he is the one they are sicking on MLBAM to get them to stop putting out the PITCHf/x data.
I'm surprised they don't charge for it
MLB always looks for money-making opportunities like that. I’m surprised they haven’t auctioned off the bullpen catcher role and warming up the third outfielder role in games.
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come on torres
I need some saves this week!
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Salomon
Be the Torres we know and love.
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A win would be nice here
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Yay
A win on a Prince day off is nice.
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soon to be cubs?
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
2-0 bottom of 8
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Wilson up in the pen
Looks like Cain might be done. Ah the smooth sound of Jon Miller instead of the Cubs feed.